Very long-distance MW, 4 400 miles


Andre
 

Hi all, I'd really like to share this clip, I would love some expert comments. I am new to MW DXing (an old-timer on SW though), but I think this might be a really distant catch. We have a local station on 702 kHz here in Johannesburg, but they inexplicably went off air today. So on their frequency tonight I heard Arabic, and the only likely candidate seems to be a station in Algeria. Is that possible? Can MW travel that far? It is 4 400 miles from where I am to Algeria. I used the XHDATA D808. MW from Algeria?


Steve Whitt
 

Hi Andre

 

Nice catch but there are a few possible candidates. Algeria is possible. But so is Saudi Arabia. However the strongest station might be BBC Arabic Service from Oman.

 

To answer your question about distance. 4400 miles is certainly possible.

 

In fact in this month’s Medium Wave News we have a report from Cape Point Nature Reserve Loggings and Blombosch Nature Reserve in South Africa. Listeners there heard many faraway MW stations.

 

Here’s a taster of what was heard…

 

kHz

Callsign

Station, location; details heard etc

UTC

Date

675

6BE

Kimberley, AUSTRALIA; Usual fanfare then ABC News

1700

27/04

684

MBC

MAURITIUS; ID's in FF, 50's mx, also on 27/04 @ 1700, ID's for
“Kool FM”

1805

1/5

720

6WF

Perth, AUSTRALIA; Fanfare then ABC news severe splatter from
local on 729

1700

27/04

760

 R Quito, Quito ECUADOR; SS w ann & National anthem
(confirmed its Ecuador with a YouTube match)

0500

28/04

864

6CE

Carnarvon, AUSTRALIA; Fanfare then ABC news

1700

27/04

882

6PR

Perth, AUSTRALIA; w ads, and “good morning, its a Monday”

1843

28/04

1010

WJXL

Jacksonville Beach FL; ID

0457

1/5

1010

WINS

NY; ID

0400

1/5

1020

KCKN

Roswell NM; // 1330 w affiliate ID's Radio Visión Cristiana

0500

1/5

 

 

The trick was the choice of receiver/antenna and good timing.

 

You should have lots of opportunity in South Africa if you can get outdoors away from urban electrical interference.

Good luck

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Sent: 07 July 2022 22:40
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Very long-distance MW, 4 400 miles

 

Hi all, I'd really like to share this clip, I would love some expert comments. I am new to MW DXing (an old-timer on SW though), but I think this might be a really distant catch. We have a local station on 702 kHz here in Johannesburg, but they inexplicably went off air today. So on their frequency tonight I heard Arabic, and the only likely candidate seems to be a station in Algeria. Is that possible? Can MW travel that far? It is 4 400 miles from where I am to Algeria. I used the XHDATA D808. MW from Algeria?


keith beesley
 

Hi Andre, 

It is possible, but I'd also check and see if there if there is a station on that frequency broadcasting in Arabic in your country or an adjacent country (possibly to an Arabic-speaking minority?). 

Keith Beesley
Seattle USA

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 03:36:40 PM PDT, Steve Whitt <mwneditor@...> wrote:


Hi Andre

 

Nice catch but there are a few possible candidates. Algeria is possible. But so is Saudi Arabia. However the strongest station might be BBC Arabic Service from Oman.

 

To answer your question about distance. 4400 miles is certainly possible.

 

In fact in this month’s Medium Wave News we have a report from Cape Point Nature Reserve Loggings and Blombosch Nature Reserve in South Africa. Listeners there heard many faraway MW stations.

 

Here’s a taster of what was heard…

 

kHz

Callsign

Station, location; details heard etc

UTC

Date

675

6BE

Kimberley, AUSTRALIA; Usual fanfare then ABC News

1700

27/04

684

MBC

MAURITIUS; ID's in FF, 50's mx, also on 27/04 @ 1700, ID's for
“Kool FM”

1805

1/5

720

6WF

Perth, AUSTRALIA; Fanfare then ABC news severe splatter from
local on 729

1700

27/04

760

 R Quito, Quito ECUADOR; SS w ann & National anthem
(confirmed its Ecuador with a YouTube match)

0500

28/04

864

6CE

Carnarvon, AUSTRALIA; Fanfare then ABC news

1700

27/04

882

6PR

Perth, AUSTRALIA; w ads, and “good morning, its a Monday”

1843

28/04

1010

WJXL

Jacksonville Beach FL; ID

0457

1/5

1010

WINS

NY; ID

0400

1/5

1020

KCKN

Roswell NM; // 1330 w affiliate ID's Radio Visión Cristiana

0500

1/5

 

 

The trick was the choice of receiver/antenna and good timing.

 

You should have lots of opportunity in South Africa if you can get outdoors away from urban electrical interference.

Good luck

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Sent: 07 July 2022 22:40
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Very long-distance MW, 4 400 miles

 

Hi all, I'd really like to share this clip, I would love some expert comments. I am new to MW DXing (an old-timer on SW though), but I think this might be a really distant catch. We have a local station on 702 kHz here in Johannesburg, but they inexplicably went off air today. So on their frequency tonight I heard Arabic, and the only likely candidate seems to be a station in Algeria. Is that possible? Can MW travel that far? It is 4 400 miles from where I am to Algeria. I used the XHDATA D808. MW from Algeria?


Andre
 

Thank you so much for the replies, Steve and Keith! I am really quite amazed by what the guys down in Cape Town have picked up, especially the Ecuador one! Cape Point and Blombosch are really perfect locations for MW DXing, especially Cape Point, there is almost no interference, no built-up areas anywhere nearby, and the Cape Point peninsula is basically surrounded by ocean, both sides. The little I do know of MW propagation is that the ocean helps a lot, that is why many MW DXers apparently listen on the beach, from what I've read. I am inland though, well inland, my nearest ocean is about 400 miles away. But I am at high altitude, Johannesburg is at exactly the same altitude as Denver, the mile-high city. So I'm guessing that might help a bit.

Steve, I did not actually consider Oman or Saudi Arabia, although they do now seem possible. l checked again on the Skywaves Android app, which is what I use to identify my signals, and it is as you said, both the BBC from Oman and SBA from Saudi Arabia use that frequency. Also two stations in Egypt. I think you might be correct, the BBC from Oman, with an 800kW transmitter, seems the most likely.

Keith, there is a local station on 702 kHz, right here in Johannesburg, but they were off air yesterday, that's how I was able to pick up something else on their frequency. There are no other local or neighbouring-country stations on 702 kHz that I know of or can find on the Skywaves app.

I am really beginning to enjoy my MW DXing!


Andre
 

Just an update, I re-edited and replaced my video mentioned in my first post, so the link in the first post no longer works. This is the new link, it is definitely the BBC from Oman, as Steve suggested, received in Johannesburg. Oman is over 4 000 miles, 6 400 km from me. I managed to pick up the signal again on Friday night, and then checked it against the BBC's online Arabic stream, it was the same. So it's confirmed as BBC on 702 kHz from Oman.


Peter 1956
 

You'll receive many more MW stations, and greater distances than that one;)
Try for Brazil, Argentina and The Bahamas around local dawn .
Peter
previously in Botswana


Andre
 

Thanks Peter, I will do that!