Getting 1620 in the log


Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

On 103.5 FM with an LPFM. Same people, probably the same programming, but wouldn't
surprise me if their intent was to remain on AM anyway.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip

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On Thu, 3/13/14, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Getting 1620 in the log
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 7:42 PM
















 












Looks like they are trying to go legit:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1579757



73,



Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU

Wolcott, CT




On 3/12/14, 5:01 PM, Russ Edmunds wrote:



The legal status of Restauracion is that it is an
unlicensed 'pirate' station.

As many of these in the extended band cause no local
interference to licensed broadcasters,
and as the FCC has only a small budget for enforcement,
these types of operations have
proliferated in many metropolitan areas.

Russ Edmunds


Stan Horzepa
 

Looks like they are trying to go legit: http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1579757

73,

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT

On 3/12/14, 5:01 PM, Russ Edmunds wrote:

The legal status of Restauracion is that it is an unlicensed 'pirate' station.

As many of these in the extended band cause no local interference to licensed broadcasters,
and as the FCC has only a small budget for enforcement, these types of operations have
proliferated in many metropolitan areas.

Russ Edmunds


Bruce Conti
 

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...> wrote:
  what threw me off is that they are very blatant about their operation with a web presence that includes live video and audio...

There's a bunch of them in the Boston metro area that have been in operation for years if not decades, some operating with thousands of watts of power, advertising, and with professional websites.  Some have even received accolades for community service from local politicians.  See http://www.bamlog.com/bostonlp2013.htm  It's well known that the FCC is unable to follow through on fines, but the FCC is still capable of confiscating equipment.  A few hundred dollars for a new transmitter on eBay and it's not very long before a station returns to the airwaves.

--
Bruce Conti
B.A.Conti Photography www.baconti.com
¡BAMLog! www.bamlog.com


Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

They all know that the FCC won't enforce against them absent a legitimate complaint of interference to
a licensed station or government utility. When they do get caught and busted, within a few months
there's a replacement operation in the same market run by the same people. Many such stations have
websites and carry advertising. They are largely foreign language religious or entertainment stations.


Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip

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On Thu, 3/13/14, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Getting 1620 in the log
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 7:34 AM
















 









That was my guess, but what threw me off is that
they are very blatant

about their operation with a web presence that includes live
video and

audio.



Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU

Wolcott, CT



On 3/12/2014 5:01 PM, Russ Edmunds wrote:

> The legal status of Restauracion is that it is an
unlicensed 'pirate' station.

>


Stan Horzepa
 

That was my guess, but what threw me off is that they are very blatant about their operation with a web presence that includes live video and audio.

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT

On 3/12/2014 5:01 PM, Russ Edmunds wrote:
The legal status of Restauracion is that it is an unlicensed 'pirate' station.


Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

The legal status of Restauracion is that it is an unlicensed 'pirate' station.

As many of these in the extended band cause no local interference to licensed broadcasters,
and as the FCC has only a small budget for enforcement, these types of operations have
proliferated in many metropolitan areas.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/12/14, Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Getting 1620 in the log
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 4:53 PM
















 









Excellent detective work on this one
Stan, this is what this hobby is all about.
Paulhttp://ultralightdxing.blogspot.com.au/



On Thu, Mar 13, 2014
at 12:14 AM, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...>
wrote:
















 









Two US AM radio channels had no entries in my log:
1070 and 1620 kHz.



1070 is difficult because 50-kW WTIC is 13 miles away on the
opposite

side of the valley and so far, I have not been able to hear
anything on

1070 due to interference from WTIC on 1080. On the other
hand (or other

side of 1080), I have no problem hearing WBAL on 1090, so go
figure.



1620 is difficult because there are only eight stations on
1620 in all

the USA and none are local.



I made up my mind to tackle 1620 first. My plan was to tune
all my

radios to 1620 and listen to nothing until some anomaly in
propagation

sent a signal my way.



I did not have to listen long and heard a very weak signal
way down in

the mud with my CC SW Pocket radio and Terk Advantage
antenna: a Spanish

station playing Latin music interspersed with current NOAA
weather

broadcasts in English.



My high school Spanish is not good enough to pick up enough
intelligence

from the spoken, broken-by-static Spanish to determine the
source of the

signal. But I was able to get enough intelligence from the
weather

broadcasts to determine that their source was a NOAA weather
station in

southern New England or southeastern New York.



But there are no AM radio stations on 1620 in all of New
England or New

York!



Google is my friend, so I Googled "1620 AM" to see
what it came up

with. The second item that Google found was a link to
listen online to

Restauracion 1620 - AM 1620 - New Britain, CT. New Britain
is about 8

miles away, so I went to the webpage and when I listened
online,

voila! The radio signal on 1620 matched what I was hearing
online with a

slight delay.



The full name of the station is La Nueva 1620 AM
Restauracion (The New

Radio AM 1620 Restoration) and it has a website

(http://www.restauracion1620.com/),
but I have not been able to

determine the legal status of the operation. Nevertheless, I
entered La

Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion in the log and plan to tackle
1070 next.



Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU

Wolcott, CT, USA

http://horzepa.blogspot.com/


Paul Blundell
 

Excellent detective work on this one Stan, this is what this hobby is all about.

Paul


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...> wrote:
 

Two US AM radio channels had no entries in my log: 1070 and 1620 kHz.

1070 is difficult because 50-kW WTIC is 13 miles away on the opposite
side of the valley and so far, I have not been able to hear anything on
1070 due to interference from WTIC on 1080. On the other hand (or other
side of 1080), I have no problem hearing WBAL on 1090, so go figure.

1620 is difficult because there are only eight stations on 1620 in all
the USA and none are local.

I made up my mind to tackle 1620 first. My plan was to tune all my
radios to 1620 and listen to nothing until some anomaly in propagation
sent a signal my way.

I did not have to listen long and heard a very weak signal way down in
the mud with my CC SW Pocket radio and Terk Advantage antenna: a Spanish
station playing Latin music interspersed with current NOAA weather
broadcasts in English.

My high school Spanish is not good enough to pick up enough intelligence
from the spoken, broken-by-static Spanish to determine the source of the
signal. But I was able to get enough intelligence from the weather
broadcasts to determine that their source was a NOAA weather station in
southern New England or southeastern New York.

But there are no AM radio stations on 1620 in all of New England or New
York!

Google is my friend, so I Googled "1620 AM" to see what it came up
with. The second item that Google found was a link to listen online to
Restauracion 1620 - AM 1620 - New Britain, CT. New Britain is about 8
miles away, so I went to the webpage and when I listened online,
voila! The radio signal on 1620 matched what I was hearing online with a
slight delay.

The full name of the station is La Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion (The New
Radio AM 1620 Restoration) and it has a website
(http://www.restauracion1620.com/), but I have not been able to
determine the legal status of the operation. Nevertheless, I entered La
Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion in the log and plan to tackle 1070 next.

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA
http://horzepa.blogspot.com/



Bruce Conti
 

Check out my online domestic logbook at http://www.bamlog.com/domestic2012.htm for potential 1070 and 1620 kHz signals, and the international logbook at http://www.bamlog.com/2010decadebook.htm for Caribbean/Latin American targets.

The 1620 Restauracion log is a good one, something I'll target.  Normally, Radio Rebelde Cuba is the dominant signal on 1620, parallel many frequencies including 600, 670, 710, 1180, and 5025 kHz.  Another Spanish-language signal on 1620 is Radio Bayamo Cuba which is easily recognized in the morning by its grandfather clock-like chimes on the hour, i.e. six chimes marking 6 a.m. in Cuba.  Like you, there really is no dominant 1620 domestic signal for me either.  WDND, WTAW, and KOZN all have an equal chance of making it through the Cubans.  WDHP used to be a regular, but hasn't been received in a long time.

1070 is a tough frequency due to interference from the digital signals of 1060 KYW HD and 1080 WTIC HD.  CHOK is the most common signal received here at my southern New Hampshire location.  Often the best time to receive something different on 1070 will be at sunset before stations power down.  WSCP ESPN Deportes, WKOK news radio, and WNCT beach, boogie, and blues music are most common at that time.  WINA with CBS news on the hour is most common later at night with CHOK nulled.  WFLI and WFNI are often received when DX conditions are right.  Being close to the WTIC transmitter site, your reception might be limited but you should be able to get a good null on the primarily groundwave signal.  Once the sweet spot is found, listening at various times should net some new stations in the logbook.

--
Bruce Conti
B.A.Conti Photography www.baconti.com
¡BAMLog! www.bamlog.com


Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

Using this site, the most likely sources for the NOAA Weather broadcast are these. These stations can get ouot good distances due to less
interference.

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/travelers-information-stations-search


Frequency: 1.62000000 V
Callsign: WPBX388 Licensee: CONNECTICUT, STATE OF Radio Service: Public Safety Pool, Conventional (PW) City: ROCKY HILL, CT Status: Active Grant Date: 03/16/2013 Expiration: 03/29/2023
Site: 1 Address: 360 BLOOMFIELD AVE City: WINDSOR, CT County: HARTFORD Coordinates: 41° 51' 6.4" N, 72° 39' 45.3" W
Frequency: 1.62000000 V

Frequency: 1.62000000 V
Callsign: WPVT612 Licensee: Village of Hastings-On-Hudson Radio Service: Public Safety Pool, Conventional (PW) City: Hastings-On-Hudson, NY Status: Active Grant Date: 06/14/2012 Expiration: 08/16/2022
Site: 1 Address: Hillside Avenue City: Hudson-On-Hastings, NY County: WESTCHESTER Coordinates: 40° 59' 26.5" N, 73° 52' 33.3" W

Further, if you pick out the NOAA station ID, you can look here to determine the areas covered:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/nwr/nwrbro.htm

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 3/12/14, Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@...> wrote:

Subject: [ultralightdx] Getting 1620 in the log
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 9:14 AM
















 









Two US AM radio channels had no entries in my log:
1070 and 1620 kHz.



1070 is difficult because 50-kW WTIC is 13 miles away on the
opposite

side of the valley and so far, I have not been able to hear
anything on

1070 due to interference from WTIC on 1080. On the other
hand (or other

side of 1080), I have no problem hearing WBAL on 1090, so go
figure.



1620 is difficult because there are only eight stations on
1620 in all

the USA and none are local.



I made up my mind to tackle 1620 first. My plan was to tune
all my

radios to 1620 and listen to nothing until some anomaly in
propagation

sent a signal my way.



I did not have to listen long and heard a very weak signal
way down in

the mud with my CC SW Pocket radio and Terk Advantage
antenna: a Spanish

station playing Latin music interspersed with current NOAA
weather

broadcasts in English.



My high school Spanish is not good enough to pick up enough
intelligence

from the spoken, broken-by-static Spanish to determine the
source of the

signal. But I was able to get enough intelligence from the
weather

broadcasts to determine that their source was a NOAA weather
station in

southern New England or southeastern New York.



But there are no AM radio stations on 1620 in all of New
England or New

York!



Google is my friend, so I Googled "1620 AM" to see
what it came up

with. The second item that Google found was a link to
listen online to

Restauracion 1620 - AM 1620 - New Britain, CT. New Britain
is about 8

miles away, so I went to the webpage and when I listened
online,

voila! The radio signal on 1620 matched what I was hearing
online with a

slight delay.



The full name of the station is La Nueva 1620 AM
Restauracion (The New

Radio AM 1620 Restoration) and it has a website

(http://www.restauracion1620.com/), but I have not been able
to

determine the legal status of the operation. Nevertheless, I
entered La

Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion in the log and plan to tackle
1070 next.



Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU

Wolcott, CT, USA

http://horzepa.blogspot.com/


Stan Horzepa
 

Two US AM radio channels had no entries in my log: 1070 and 1620 kHz.

1070 is difficult because 50-kW WTIC is 13 miles away on the opposite side of the valley and so far, I have not been able to hear anything on 1070 due to interference from WTIC on 1080. On the other hand (or other side of 1080), I have no problem hearing WBAL on 1090, so go figure.

1620 is difficult because there are only eight stations on 1620 in all the USA and none are local.

I made up my mind to tackle 1620 first. My plan was to tune all my radios to 1620 and listen to nothing until some anomaly in propagation sent a signal my way.

I did not have to listen long and heard a very weak signal way down in the mud with my CC SW Pocket radio and Terk Advantage antenna: a Spanish station playing Latin music interspersed with current NOAA weather broadcasts in English.

My high school Spanish is not good enough to pick up enough intelligence from the spoken, broken-by-static Spanish to determine the source of the signal. But I was able to get enough intelligence from the weather broadcasts to determine that their source was a NOAA weather station in southern New England or southeastern New York.

But there are no AM radio stations on 1620 in all of New England or New York!

Google is my friend, so I Googled "1620 AM" to see what it came up with. The second item that Google found was a link to listen online to Restauracion 1620 - AM 1620 - New Britain, CT. New Britain is about 8 miles away, so I went to the webpage and when I listened online, voila! The radio signal on 1620 matched what I was hearing online with a slight delay.

The full name of the station is La Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion (The New Radio AM 1620 Restoration) and it has a website (http://www.restauracion1620.com/), but I have not been able to determine the legal status of the operation. Nevertheless, I entered La Nueva 1620 AM Restauracion in the log and plan to tackle 1070 next.

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA
http://horzepa.blogspot.com/