New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)


texnote
 


Kevin S <satya@...>
 

Thanks for the heads up! Looks like the Grundig 350 (Kaito/Redsun 2100)
got a nice face lift.

Sigh... it's a great price point, but with Grundig's recent quality
control record, especially the G3, I'm not sure I would be the first to
get one of these!

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Antonios Kekalos <akekalos@...>
 

Wondering if the tuning is any better than on the 350DL?


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:28 PM, texnote <texnote@...> wrote:
 



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dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
 

For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a modest Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is of course superb.

The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using now??

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@..., "texnote" <texnote@...> wrote:

Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html


Rik
 

It's an interesting improvement of the S-350, S-350DL from Tecsun, and then the RP-2100 from Redsun. I believe both Tecsun built models were analog and single conversion, and the Redsun was dual conversion and PLL. The 450 has dual conversion but goes back to analog tuning. I wonder if the SSB converters sold for the Redsun will work with the new radio? Also, I wonder who is building them? They even have a stereo line input for room filling sound from an ULR! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "dhsatyadhana" <satya@...> wrote:

For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a modest Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is of course superb.

The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using now??

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@..., "texnote" <texnote@> wrote:

Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html


dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
 

Provided they are using a 455 khz IF (a good bet), the 2100's SSB adapter should work. The 2100 had PAL connectors/jacks, whereas the 450 now has more standard (at least for over here...) F connectors.

I bought an adapter but never got a 2100: does this mean I absolutely, positively HAVE to get a 450?

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" <farmerik@...> wrote:

It's an interesting improvement of the S-350, S-350DL from Tecsun, and then the RP-2100 from Redsun. I believe both Tecsun built models were analog and single conversion, and the Redsun was dual conversion and PLL. The 450 has dual conversion but goes back to analog tuning. I wonder if the SSB converters sold for the Redsun will work with the new radio? Also, I wonder who is building them? They even have a stereo line input for room filling sound from an ULR! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "dhsatyadhana" <satya@> wrote:

For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a modest Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is of course superb.

The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using now??

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@..., "texnote" <texnote@> wrote:

Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html


Tao Qu
 

The TG37 ssb adapter may will not works on the other models if they have fully different internal design on 455KHz output circuit...:(
 
-Tao Qu


From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:18 AM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)

 

Provided they are using a 455 khz IF (a good bet), the 2100's SSB adapter should work. The 2100 had PAL connectors/jacks, whereas the 450 now has more standard (at least for over here...) F connectors.

I bought an adapter but never got a 2100: does this mean I absolutely, positively HAVE to get a 450?

Kevin


--- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" wrote:
>
> It's an interesting improvement of the S-350, S-350DL from Tecsun, and then the RP-2100 from Redsun. I believe both Tecsun built models were analog and single conversion, and the Redsun was dual conversion and PLL. The 450 has dual conversion but goes back to analog tuning. I wonder if the SSB converters sold for the Redsun will work with the new radio? Also, I wonder who is building them? They even have a stereo line input for room filling sound from an ULR! - FARMERIK
>
> --- In ultralightdx@..., "dhsatyadhana" wrote:
> >
> > For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a modest Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is of course superb.
> >
> > The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using now??
> >
> > Kevin S
> > Bainbridge Island, WA
> >
> > --- In ultralightdx@..., "texnote" wrote:
> > >
> > > Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
> > > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html
> > >
> >
>


Kevin S <satya@...>
 

Hi Tao Qu:

Thanks for the word of caution - you probably know more about them than I do!

If/when the S450DLX actually starts to be sold, hopefully the old TG37
adapter will work, or perhaps someone will come out with a new adapter
that does work.

Kevin

The TG37 ssb adapter may will not works on the other models if they have
fully different internal design on 455KHz output circuit...:(

-Tao Qu

_____

From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...]
On
Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:18 AM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)




Provided they are using a 455 khz IF (a good bet), the 2100's SSB adapter
should work. The 2100 had PAL connectors/jacks, whereas the 450 now has
more
standard (at least for over here...) F connectors.

I bought an adapter but never got a 2100: does this mean I absolutely,
positively HAVE to get a 450?

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@...
<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>
, "farmerik" <farmerik@...> wrote:

It's an interesting improvement of the S-350, S-350DL from Tecsun, and
then the RP-2100 from Redsun. I believe both Tecsun built models were
analog
and single conversion, and the Redsun was dual conversion and PLL. The 450
has dual conversion but goes back to analog tuning. I wonder if the SSB
converters sold for the Redsun will work with the new radio? Also, I
wonder
who is building them? They even have a stereo line input for room filling
sound from an ULR! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@...
<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com> , "dhsatyadhana" <satya@> wrote:

For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a
modest
Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have
better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is
of
course superb.

The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane
CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more
understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using
now??

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@...
<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com> , "texnote" <texnote@> wrote:

Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html




neilkj6fba <neil.bell@...>
 

No excuse for a radio this size not to have true digital tuning and a number pad for frequency entry.

As pointed out, Grundig/Eton has a sad recent reputation for poor quality control. They sell price, not quality in my opinion.

Not one of the Chinese radios has come close to the quality of my favorite Japanese made Sony 7600GR, which is not a perfect radio, but is a very good one.

Just my opinion,
Neil Bell
KJ6FBA


lrdheat
 

The decription says analog with digital display, yet, I see the enlarged picture of the keys has the caption PLL synthesized...also having memories would seem to be difficult on an analog...looks like the GRUNDIG take on the RP-2100.
 
Heatwave


--- On Fri, 8/13/10, texnote wrote:

From: texnote
Subject: [ultralightdx] New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 3:28 PM



Tao Qu
 

Hi Kevin,
 
Actually I don't have any information about that new radio, so I am not sure if the tg37 will works on it or not, if not, then will need to do some design change...-:)
 
Regards,
- Tao Qu


From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of Kevin S
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:48 PM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: RE: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)

 

Hi Tao Qu:

Thanks for the word of caution - you probably know more about them than I do!

If/when the S450DLX actually starts to be sold, hopefully the old TG37
adapter will work, or perhaps someone will come out with a new adapter
that does work.

Kevin

> The TG37 ssb adapter may will not works on the other models if they have
> fully different internal design on 455KHz output circuit...:(
>
> -Tao Qu
>
> _____
>
> From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...]
> On
> Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 8:18 AM
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)
>
>
>
>
> Provided they are using a 455 khz IF (a good bet), the 2100's SSB adapter
> should work. The 2100 had PAL connectors/jacks, whereas the 450 now has
> more
> standard (at least for over here...) F connectors.
>
> I bought an adapter but never got a 2100: does this mean I absolutely,
> positively HAVE to get a 450?
>
> Kevin
>
> --- In ultralightdx@...
>
> , "farmerik" wrote:
>>
>> It's an interesting improvement of the S-350, S-350DL from Tecsun, and
> then the RP-2100 from Redsun. I believe both Tecsun built models were
> analog
> and single conversion, and the Redsun was dual conversion and PLL. The 450
> has dual conversion but goes back to analog tuning. I wonder if the SSB
> converters sold for the Redsun will work with the new radio? Also, I
> wonder
> who is building them? They even have a stereo line input for room filling
> sound from an ULR! - FARMERIK
>>
>> --- In ultralightdx@...
> , "dhsatyadhana" >> >
>> > For DXers, I would offer that a Tecsun PL-310 or 380, mated to a
>> modest
> Terk loop (or jacked up with a 7.5" Amidon ferrite), would likely have
> better sensitivity and (by far) better selectivity. FM on the Tecsuns is
> of
> course superb.
>> >
>> > The case on the S450DLX is reminiscent of the to-be-released CCrane
> CCRadio-EP. It appears that the Chinese factories have a "new look", more
> understated with lots of black and no shiny panels, that they are using
> now??
>> >
>> > Kevin S
>> > Bainbridge Island, WA
>> >
>> > --- In ultralightdx@...
> , "texnote" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Introducing the Grundig S450DLX:
>> > > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/5450.html
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>


Powell
 

The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.

Powell
 
NNNN
POP email is powell at backroads DOT net



From: Richard Berler


The decription says analog with digital display, yet, I see the enlarged picture of the keys has the caption PLL synthesized...also having memories would seem to be difficult on an analog...looks like the GRUNDIG take on the RP-2100.
 
Heatwave

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lrdheat
 

Given that Universal Radio descibed the 450DLX as analog (yet the closeup picture of it's keys says PLL synthesized), I wonder if it is indeed dual conversion! Still sounds very much like the RP2100...not saying anything bad about the 2100, just that I fear that it is not much of a "new" offering to swl's. Here's hoping that it will be a great offering!
 
I note the EXACT same words describing the 350DL concerning that the set would be great for the am dx enthusiast was used for the 450DLX.
 
Heatwave
 


--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Powell E. Way III wrote:

From: Powell E. Way III
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:20 PM

 
The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.

Powell
 
NNNN
POP email is powell at backroads DOT net



From: Richard Berler


The decription says analog with digital display, yet, I see the enlarged picture of the keys has the caption PLL synthesized...also having memories would seem to be difficult on an analog...looks like the GRUNDIG take on the RP-2100.
 
Heatwave

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Rik
 

My RP-2100 came from Kaito, and clearly claimed to be dual conversion. Until Universal Radio have some in stock, I guess they have to rely on ad copy. Maybe they can or will correct the listing. I did not see any memory buttons on the new 'Heavy Weight' from 'Grundig', but it does use a push button to select the tuning speed, and as was pointed out before, it does have a PLL label in one of the small photos you can select at Universals site. As with ULR's from China, there are language translation problems. Some ad copy called both the S-350 and the S-350DL digital because they had a frequency read out, but they were analog sets. My S-350 got more AM stations than my S-350DL or RP-2100. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Powell E. Way III" <w4opw@...> wrote:

The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.

Powell

NNNN
POP email is powell at backroads DOT net




________________________________
From: Richard Berler <lrdheat@...>



The decription says analog with digital display, yet, I see the enlarged picture
of the keys has the caption PLL synthesized...also having memories would seem to
be difficult on an analog...looks like the GRUNDIG take on the RP-2100.

Heatwave


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Gary Kinsman
 

Well, my CCRadio-SW, which is essentially identical to the Redsun RP2100, says "Dual Conversion" right on the display, and the descriptions of the RP2100 on eBay and elsewhere on the Internet say "Dual Conversion" as well.

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Powell E. Way III" <w4opw@...> wrote:

The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.

Powell

NNNN
POP email is powell at backroads DOT net


Tao Qu
 

The RP2100 is from Redsun company, it is digitall PLL based radio, dual conversion on AM mode (including MW band and SW band), the 1st IF = 55.845MHz, the 2nd IF = 455KHz.
 
- Tao Qu


From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of gkinsman1
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:18 AM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)

 

Well, my CCRadio-SW, which is essentially identical to the Redsun RP2100, says "Dual Conversion" right on the display, and the descriptions of the RP2100 on eBay and elsewhere on the Internet say "Dual Conversion" as well.

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Powell E. Way III" wrote:
>
> The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.
>
> Powell
>
> NNNN
> POP email is powell at backroads DOT net


huelbe_garcia@...
 

I think the descriton on UR site also mentioned 9/10 step selection. This feature fits better to a synthesized VFO (used in RP2100) than an analog one (used in DL350).

--hg

-original message-
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: New "Ultra-Heavy" Radio :)
From: "farmerik" <farmerik@...>
Date: 15/08/2010 19:50

My RP-2100 came from Kaito, and clearly claimed to be dual conversion. Until Universal Radio have some in stock, I guess they have to rely on ad copy. Maybe they can or will correct the listing. I did not see any memory buttons on the new 'Heavy Weight' from 'Grundig', but it does use a push button to select the tuning speed, and as was pointed out before, it does have a PLL label in one of the small photos you can select at Universals site. As with ULR's from China, there are language translation problems. Some ad copy called both the S-350 and the S-350DL digital because they had a frequency read out, but they were analog sets. My S-350 got more AM stations than my S-350DL or RP-2100. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Powell E. Way III" <w4opw@...> wrote:

The 2100 is NOT dual conversion.

Powell

NNNN
POP email is powell at backroads DOT net




________________________________
From: Richard Berler <lrdheat@...>



The decription says analog with digital display, yet, I see the enlarged picture
of the keys has the caption PLL synthesized...also having memories would seem to
be difficult on an analog...looks like the GRUNDIG take on the RP-2100.

Heatwave


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