A Radio Rodeo


Gary DeBock
 

Hi John,
 
Thanks for your detailed work in performing this FM-DX Radio Rodeo. Having conducted a few Shootouts, I know how much time and effort is required for accurate results.
 
During the brief FM testing in the PL-310 and PL-380 AM-oriented reviews, there really wasn't enough time to fully investigate the individual differences between the D96L, PL-310 and PL-380 models. Your testing certainly went much further than mine, and your results should be considered authoritative for the large community of FM-DXers in our Ultralightdx group. Your timing is also excellent, as many of us switch over to the FM band to chase DX :-)
 
73, Gary 
 
 In a message dated 5/8/2010 1:47:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jewashburn@... writes:


grace123moscow
 

Welcome to a FM ULR Rodeo!

All radios were tested 11am to 2pm on the same day from the same location. Each receiver was coupled directly or inductively to an external FanFare FM26 omni-directional FM antenna.

Location: We live in a small housing development on top of a high ridge that overlooks Lake Memphremagog here in Northern Vermont, very near the Canadian border. The location of this ridge gives us a 360 degree view of the far horizon, so it is ideal for FM dxing.

Concerning my test results: As the rodeo clowns say here: "your results may vary and watch where you step."

CCRadio2 (non ULR)
(SN# 9/09 090131415)
22 FM stations identified

Degen DE15
(SN# FB015169)
49 FM stations identified

Eton E1 (non ULR)
(SN# SL-NO-07899)
58 FM stations identified

Grundig G8
(SN# G80906025696)
40 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-HD01
(SN# 9H250000607)
58 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-R5111
(SN# 9J05A007887)
40 stations identified

Kchibo D96L
(SN# DSP000054081)
40 stations identified

Sangean PRD7 (non ULR)
(SN# 9B041510)
33 stations identified

Sony XDR-F1HD (non ULR)
(SN# 9B-112225)
69 stations identified

Tecsun PL310
(SN# 02/2010 35720100102037)
60 stations identified

Tecsun PL360
(SN# 03/2010 35620091200346)
46 stations identified

Tecsun PL380
(SN# 01/2010 36920100101623)
54 stations identified

Tecsun PL450 (non ULR)
(SN# 02/2010 32120100203018)
49 stations identified

Tecsun PL600 (non ULR)
(SN# 30620090201536)
45 stations identified

Thanks for being here!

John Washburn
Newport, Vermont
(jewashburn<at>comcast.net)


Scott <scottmac1120@...>
 

Oh, yeah. Any time I get good tropo conditions I switch over to FM. One night, I got some excellent catches barefoot on my G8! Farthest away I believe was KSNY at 101.5 FM in Snyder, TX (approximately 130 miles), playing country music. Not in-and-out either, but steady, sub-local signal strength sustained throughout the night. Then, gone by morning. I just love VHF DX because it's so much harder to catch anything. Sometime, I'll get my FM DX log (along with my AM log) on here.

Scott
Hobbs, NM (and Midland, TX)


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, <D1028Gary@...> wrote:
 

Hi John,
 
Thanks for your detailed work in performing this FM-DX Radio Rodeo. Having conducted a few Shootouts, I know how much time and effort is required for accurate results.
 
During the brief FM testing in the PL-310 and PL-380 AM-oriented reviews, there really wasn't enough time to fully investigate the individual differences between the D96L, PL-310 and PL-380 models. Your testing certainly went much further than mine, and your results should be considered authoritative for the large community of FM-DXers in our Ultralightdx group. Your timing is also excellent, as many of us switch over to the FM band to chase DX :-)
 
73, Gary 
 
 In a message dated 5/8/2010 1:47:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jewashburn@... writes:



pianoplayer88key
 

I wonder if salt water helps FM signals travel farther, as well, like it does for AM. I happen to live behind a hill, but if I at least go on the roof of my house, or go to the top of the hill, I can regularly hear KDB 93.7 and KVYB 103.3 from Santa Barbara, even though I'm 211.7 miles away from KVYB and 196.3 miles from KDB. In fact, quite often when conditions are right, KVYB is strong enough to trip the stereo decoder. (The path to both stations is mostly over salt water due to the curve of the southern California coastline.)

--- In ultralightdx@..., Scott <scottmac1120@...> wrote:

Oh, yeah. Any time I get good tropo conditions I switch over to FM. One
night, I got some excellent catches barefoot on my G8! Farthest away I
believe was KSNY at 101.5 FM in Snyder, TX (approximately 130 miles),
playing country music. Not in-and-out either, but steady, sub-local signal
strength sustained throughout the night. Then, gone by morning. I just love
VHF DX because it's so much harder to catch anything. Sometime, I'll get my
FM DX log (along with my AM log) on here.

Scott
Hobbs, NM (and Midland, TX)

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, <D1028Gary@...> wrote:



Hi John,

Thanks for your detailed work in performing this FM-DX Radio Rodeo. Having
conducted a few Shootouts, I know how much time and effort is required for
accurate results.

During the brief FM testing in the PL-310 and PL-380 AM-oriented reviews,
there really wasn't enough time to fully investigate the individual
differences between the D96L, PL-310 and PL-380 models. Your testing
certainly went much further than mine, and your results should be considered
authoritative for the large community of FM-DXers in our Ultralightdx group.
Your timing is also excellent, as many of us switch over to the FM band to
chase DX :-)

73, Gary

In a message dated 5/8/2010 1:47:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jewashburn@... writes:




John Cereghin <jcereghin@...>
 

I don't know about the salt water but tropo seems to like water paths here in the Mid-Atlantic.  My usual tropo is to Southern New England and the Outer Banks, both generally over salt water paths.  But that may have more to do with temperature inversions that develop in the evening over water than the fact that its a salt-water path.  My results would probably be similar if the Atlantic was a fresh water lake.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Stephen <pianoplayer88key@...> wrote:
 

I wonder if salt water helps FM signals travel farther, as well, like it does for AM. I happen to live behind a hill, but if I at least go on the roof of my house, or go to the top of the hill, I can regularly hear KDB 93.7 and KVYB 103.3 from Santa Barbara, even though I'm 211.7 miles away from KVYB and 196.3 miles from KDB. In fact, quite often when conditions are right, KVYB is strong enough to trip the stereo decoder. (The path to both stations is mostly over salt water due to the curve of the southern California coastline.)

--- In ultralightdx@..., Scott wrote:
>
> Oh, yeah. Any time I get good tropo conditions I switch over to FM. One
> night, I got some excellent catches barefoot on my G8! Farthest away I
> believe was KSNY at 101.5 FM in Snyder, TX (approximately 130 miles),
> playing country music. Not in-and-out either, but steady, sub-local signal
> strength sustained throughout the night. Then, gone by morning. I just love
> VHF DX because it's so much harder to catch anything. Sometime, I'll get my
> FM DX log (along with my AM log) on here.
>
> Scott
> Hobbs, NM (and Midland, TX)
>

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Smyrna DE
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Bill M <radioexray@...>
 



On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:39 AM, John Cereghin <jcereghin@...> wrote:


I don't know about the salt water but tropo seems to like water paths here in the Mid-Atlantic.  My usual tropo is to Southern New England and the Outer Banks, both generally over salt water paths.  But that may have more to do with temperature inversions that develop in the evening over water than the fact that its a salt-water path.  My results would probably be similar if the Atlantic was a fresh water lake.

I agree that its often temperature inversions moreso than tropo.  At least up to a point distance-wise.  On some of these 'skip events' you can watch as the the thing moves with the weather.  I don't think the salt water harms or helps from a 'salt' aspect.  Its just that these inversions often find their best conditions due to the water temperature.

My best war-story from Puerto Rico.  I was TV-DXing and hit an odd-bird in an odd (to me) language.  It turned out to be TV Apunte (I think that's the spelling) from Surinam, a relatively small broadcaster. Found it on the  web and noticed they also operated an FM station.  Went to the FM radio and dialled it in and it was as strong as any local.

I had 'skip' to YV earlier in the day but when R/TV Apunte was booming in there was no sign of any other distant signal.  The line to them was apparently razor sharp.  Lasted at least a half-hour.

Been on DishNetwork for the past 2-3 years for the local tv and the outdoor antenna has fallen into poor health.  Plus the dish guy used some of my cables (aargh).  Bought a rotor a couple months ago planning to restore my VHF DX capabilities.  Still haven't gotten a round tuit :)

-Bill


Rik
 

That is a lot of stations for that part of northern VT, and I like your long list of radios too! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "grace123moscow" <jewashburn@...> wrote:

Welcome to a FM ULR Rodeo!

All radios were tested 11am to 2pm on the same day from the same location. Each receiver was coupled directly or inductively to an external FanFare FM26 omni-directional FM antenna.

Location: We live in a small housing development on top of a high ridge that overlooks Lake Memphremagog here in Northern Vermont, very near the Canadian border. The location of this ridge gives us a 360 degree view of the far horizon, so it is ideal for FM dxing.

Concerning my test results: As the rodeo clowns say here: "your results may vary and watch where you step."

CCRadio2 (non ULR)
(SN# 9/09 090131415)
22 FM stations identified

Degen DE15
(SN# FB015169)
49 FM stations identified

Eton E1 (non ULR)
(SN# SL-NO-07899)
58 FM stations identified

Grundig G8
(SN# G80906025696)
40 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-HD01
(SN# 9H250000607)
58 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-R5111
(SN# 9J05A007887)
40 stations identified

Kchibo D96L
(SN# DSP000054081)
40 stations identified

Sangean PRD7 (non ULR)
(SN# 9B041510)
33 stations identified

Sony XDR-F1HD (non ULR)
(SN# 9B-112225)
69 stations identified

Tecsun PL310
(SN# 02/2010 35720100102037)
60 stations identified

Tecsun PL360
(SN# 03/2010 35620091200346)
46 stations identified

Tecsun PL380
(SN# 01/2010 36920100101623)
54 stations identified

Tecsun PL450 (non ULR)
(SN# 02/2010 32120100203018)
49 stations identified

Tecsun PL600 (non ULR)
(SN# 30620090201536)
45 stations identified

Thanks for being here!

John Washburn
Newport, Vermont
(jewashburn<at>comcast.net)


keith beesley
 

John,

Your shootouts are always informative and interesting. Do the totals for the Insignia pocket radios include HD sub-channels, or just the main stations?

Haven't had much luck with FM Dx here in the Pacific Northwest, apart from the (very occasional) tropo openings; maybe I'll give it a try this summer with one of those new radios.

Keith Beesley
Seattle WA USA

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, farmerik <farmerik@...> wrote:

From: farmerik <farmerik@...>
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: A Radio Rodeo
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:59 AM

That is a lot of stations for that part of northern VT, and
I like your long list of radios too! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@...,
"grace123moscow" <jewashburn@...> wrote:

Welcome to a FM ULR Rodeo!

All radios were tested 11am to 2pm on the same day
from the same location. Each receiver was coupled directly
or inductively to an external FanFare FM26 omni-directional
FM antenna.

Location: We live in a small housing development on
top of a high ridge that overlooks Lake Memphremagog here in
Northern Vermont, very near the Canadian border. The
location of this ridge gives us a 360 degree view of the far
horizon, so it is ideal for FM dxing.

Concerning my test results: As the rodeo clowns say
here: "your results may vary and watch where you step."

CCRadio2 (non ULR)
(SN# 9/09 090131415)
22 FM stations identified

Degen DE15
(SN# FB015169)
49 FM stations identified

Eton E1 (non ULR)
(SN# SL-NO-07899)
58 FM stations identified

Grundig G8
(SN# G80906025696)
40 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-HD01
(SN# 9H250000607)
58 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-R5111
(SN# 9J05A007887)
40 stations identified

Kchibo D96L
(SN# DSP000054081)
40 stations identified

Sangean PRD7 (non ULR)
(SN# 9B041510)
33 stations identified

Sony XDR-F1HD (non ULR)
(SN# 9B-112225)
69 stations identified

Tecsun PL310
(SN# 02/2010 35720100102037)
60 stations identified

Tecsun PL360
(SN# 03/2010 35620091200346)
46 stations identified

Tecsun PL380
(SN# 01/2010 36920100101623)
54 stations identified

Tecsun PL450 (non ULR)
(SN# 02/2010 32120100203018)
49 stations identified

Tecsun PL600 (non ULR)
(SN# 30620090201536)
45 stations identified

Thanks for being here!

John Washburn
Newport, Vermont
(jewashburn<at>comcast.net)



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grace123moscow
 

Keith:

Thank you for asking, I should have stated that these were the main stations. I'm still getting used to the idea of HD, etc.

John Washburn
Newport, Vermont
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--- In ultralightdx@..., keith beesley <keith1226@...> wrote:

John,

Your shootouts are always informative and interesting. Do the totals for the Insignia pocket radios include HD sub-channels, or just the main stations?

Haven't had much luck with FM Dx here in the Pacific Northwest, apart from the (very occasional) tropo openings; maybe I'll give it a try this summer with one of those new radios.

Keith Beesley
Seattle WA USA

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, farmerik <farmerik@...> wrote:

From: farmerik <farmerik@...>
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: A Radio Rodeo
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:59 AM

That is a lot of stations for that part of northern VT, and
I like your long list of radios too! - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@...,
"grace123moscow" <jewashburn@> wrote:

Welcome to a FM ULR Rodeo!

All radios were tested 11am to 2pm on the same day
from the same location. Each receiver was coupled directly
or inductively to an external FanFare FM26 omni-directional
FM antenna.

Location: We live in a small housing development on
top of a high ridge that overlooks Lake Memphremagog here in
Northern Vermont, very near the Canadian border. The
location of this ridge gives us a 360 degree view of the far
horizon, so it is ideal for FM dxing.

Concerning my test results: As the rodeo clowns say
here: "your results may vary and watch where you step."

CCRadio2 (non ULR)
(SN# 9/09 090131415)
22 FM stations identified

Degen DE15
(SN# FB015169)
49 FM stations identified

Eton E1 (non ULR)
(SN# SL-NO-07899)
58 FM stations identified

Grundig G8
(SN# G80906025696)
40 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-HD01
(SN# 9H250000607)
58 FM stations identified

Insignia NS-R5111
(SN# 9J05A007887)
40 stations identified

Kchibo D96L
(SN# DSP000054081)
40 stations identified

Sangean PRD7 (non ULR)
(SN# 9B041510)
33 stations identified

Sony XDR-F1HD (non ULR)
(SN# 9B-112225)
69 stations identified

Tecsun PL310
(SN# 02/2010 35720100102037)
60 stations identified

Tecsun PL360
(SN# 03/2010 35620091200346)
46 stations identified

Tecsun PL380
(SN# 01/2010 36920100101623)
54 stations identified

Tecsun PL450 (non ULR)
(SN# 02/2010 32120100203018)
49 stations identified

Tecsun PL600 (non ULR)
(SN# 30620090201536)
45 stations identified

Thanks for being here!

John Washburn
Newport, Vermont
(jewashburn<at>comcast.net)



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