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sloshatron <wa1gwh@...>
Thank you for the reply, Gary. It's nice to know that only matching
up the inductance is close enough! Thank you for the comment and question, Guy. My understanding is that despite their being two separate coils on the stock SRF loopstick and despite the bigger coil being tapped the entire unit works as a single untapped inductor in the circuit. The tap does not seem important (it may have been used in some other model?) and the second smaller coil is slid along the bar to vary the inductance of the whole loopstick unit for alignment purposes. So with regard to a possible spider web transplant, I was thinking of a single continuous wind with just a touch more total inductance. Alignment would be accomplished by removing/adding turns or partial turns. Since this could not be done with the radio running and while listening to a test signal, I'm wondering if measuring the audio output with a meter (as shown in the service manual) each trial as turns are removed/added and the radio repeatedly turned on and off for the procedure might work. I'm just kind of dreaming about this. The Rap N Tap discussion group of the Xtal Set Society has kicked around the idea that ferrite can vary in its quality, even from the same supplier. It is indeed easier to use, especially for this application, but I only have a big old ferrite bar of unknown material and quality on hand. I wound on enough #20 PVC coated hookup wire to get me into the top half of the MW band and compared it to a 4 1/2 inch air core basket weave solenoid coil of #21 solid using the same variable capacitor for both tests. This was a booster bar antenna setup like Gil Stacy's idea, my SRF was operated stock. The result was that the air core solenoid was way better than the ferrite bar. Use of the air core coil gave substantial signal level increase. This was not a fair test, however, because the winding on the ferrite bar is substantially non-optimum. I covers too much of the bar and was not separated an eighth inch or so from the bar (based on info from our guru, Ben Tongue). I am planning to do a better winding on the ferrite bar when I figure out how and get around to it. Based on my scan of Ben's article, #30 wire centered with turns spaced at least one wire diameter and about an eighth inch off the bar should be a better configuration for this type of inductor. Ben's article can be found at: http://www.bentongue.com/xtalset/29MxQFL/29MxQFL.html Whether the performance differences he indicates are observable with amplified radios like the SRFs remains to be seen. Garry near Syracuse, NY |
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dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
Hi Garry:
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Neat experiment! A thought on the gain difference between the two - I have been struck by the gain increase when I put as many turns as possible on loops. I have a large solenoid-wound PVC box loop with a LW coil and a MW coil, both of which can tune 540 khz with the same variable cap. On 540 khz, the gain on the upper end of the LW coil is dramatically larger than the lower end of the MW coil. So, perhaps if you only had enough turns on your ferrite to get to the upper end of the MW band, putting the "normal" amount on the ferrite will make it more competitive with the air-core spider loop? Kevin S Bianbridge Island, WA
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