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Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

The great thing about this hobby is that you can start off with very basic equipment and build on it. A FSL would also be a great help.


On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:33 AM Arthur Samel via groups.io <avram911=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
thanks Paul

right now I am using a tecsun pl660 and a red loop antenna for mw listening but I am looking for a good setup for a beginner


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Welcome to the group, we would love to help you become more active in the ultralight radio dxing hobby.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Arthur Samel via groups.io <avram911=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

i have been interested in radio since I was a kid and I am now 35 years old and still enjoy listening and learning

i just became interested in ultralight dx which I don't know much about but I am hoping to learn about it from you kind folks

Art from Philadelphia Pennsylvania

-----Original Message-----
From: radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay


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Paul



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Paul


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Arthur Samel
 

thanks Paul

right now I am using a tecsun pl660 and a red loop antenna for mw listening but I am looking for a good setup for a beginner


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Welcome to the group, we would love to help you become more active in the ultralight radio dxing hobby.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Arthur Samel via groups.io <avram911=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

i have been interested in radio since I was a kid and I am now 35 years old and still enjoy listening and learning

i just became interested in ultralight dx which I don't know much about but I am hoping to learn about it from you kind folks

Art from Philadelphia Pennsylvania

-----Original Message-----
From: radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay


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Paul


Long Term DX Project - 2/12/2020 - Talbot Road Lookout

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 02/12/2020

Time: 8:00am

Location: Talbot Road Lookout, Launceston Tasmania

Notes: A morning session on my drive to work. Generally good signals across the band with only 3WV on 594kHz being slightly down in signal compared to the other two 50KW big guns. The two HPON stations both hit average signal levels, the use of my 3” FSL really helped with these. The two NSW stations were both unlogged, the time of day was the reason for this.

 

FREQ

CALLSIGN

LOGGED

DATE

RADIO

AERIAL

531

3GG

GOOD

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

549

2CR

UNLOGGED

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

594

3WV

GOOD

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

621

3RN

EXCELLENT

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

774

3LO

EXCELLENT

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

1053

2CA

UNLOGGED

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

1179

3RPH

WEAK

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

1341

HPON GEELONG

AVERAGE

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

1422

HPON MELBOURNE

AVERAGE

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

1503

3KND

POOR

2/12/2020

AR-1733

3" FSL

 

 




Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

Welcome to the group, we would love to help you become more active in the ultralight radio dxing hobby.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Arthur Samel via groups.io <avram911=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

i have been interested in radio since I was a kid and I am now 35 years old and still enjoy listening and learning

i just became interested in ultralight dx which I don't know much about but I am hoping to learn about it from you kind folks

Art from Philadelphia Pennsylvania

-----Original Message-----
From: radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay



--
Paul


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Arthur Samel
 


i have been interested in radio since I was a kid and I am now 35 years old and still enjoy listening and learning

i just became interested in ultralight dx which I don't know much about but I am hoping to learn about it from you kind folks

Art from Philadelphia Pennsylvania

-----Original Message-----
From: radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2020 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for the excellent response Jay and the great points you have raised.

I think all aspects of hobby radio are heading in the downward direction, I know the radio scanning hobby is very much on the way out here locally (due to a new P25 network being installed and most users using encryption). Amateur radio seems to be "holding on" here locally and some new people are joining up but some of the old guard are still holding on.

We can just make the best of it and see where the hobby ends up.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:55 AM radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...> wrote:
Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay



--
Paul


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

radiojayallen
 

Paul,

I have been a lifelong radio lover and that interest in receiving AM (and to a lesser extent SW) signals out of the air will never leave me. I also love the radios themselves and find joy just playing around with them and I love to look at my radio collection...it gives me pleasure just to own them. I find ways to incorporate radio listening in my daily life and I augment what I can receive by using my own home AM and FM transmitters to program music and Old Time Radio shows through my radios both new and vintage. Andi  if you've seen my reviews you know that I love to compare radios from the point of view of the typical user experience and this radio hobby is something I enjoy in one form or another every day,

Occasionally I find I have to stream something which cannot be received in my local area and I do that out of necessity but streaming gives me no radio excitement...I use it only to hear things I couldn't hear otherwise but I don't like the streaming experience whatsoever. For example, I used to work at WTIC in Hartford, CT which cannot be received here in Kentucky due not only to WTIC'S nighttime directional pattern away from me but also a local station near me on the same frequency. So I will stream it on my phone to hear what's going on but because all of the breaks are localized to my new local area lots of the flavor of the station is gone. Plus this automated localization is not smooth and often parts of the program are clipped...it's nothing like being able to hear it off the air. 

But back to radio as a hobby - I'm not sure we can do much about the fact that young people growing up have no idea what radio is other than in a car, especially AM radio, and how many people even own radios in their houses anymore? One thing I do is to gift radios to people I know and sometimes they use them but they don't feel any particular excitement about it. I gave a high  performance radio to my niece and her main comment about it is that the clock doesn't keep perfect time like her phone does. I think she uses it for FM in her kitchen sometimes. My hope is that even though radio may be dwindling overall it is still here and all we can do is to enjoy it...I don't think we can do much to reverse the trend. Where I lived in CT and also here in KY the AM and FM dials are still FULL of signals so I think radio will be with us at least for the foreseeable future. And again, home broadcasting is one way to be sure we will always be ale to at least use our radios.

FWIW,

Jay


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for the excellent response Jorge. You have touched on some great points and I agree about the fact that in some ways the radio hobby seems to be more about computers than radios these days.

That is sad about your divorce.

On Tue., 1 Dec. 2020, 20:57 Jorge Garzón via groups.io, <iberiaDX=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, after more than 35 years practising the hobby I think that I am a serious hobbyist, even when I stopped a bit to organize my children's life, my job career and my own's life after I got divorced (it wasn't the radio at all, 😉) 

I am not only interested in DXing as I am very attached to heritage, ecology and botany fields since I was a teenager being part of my life, both personally and professionally. I know how to draw a line in between personal affaires and work duties, but being both close enough, it allows me enjoying the radio and DXing as I often visit natural and rural QRM-free areas, which is a real joy these days. I could also say 'COVID-free areas', BTW!

For me, a hobby is as important as my work duty and a balance has to be found, logically; but enjoy a hobby (DXing) help me to balance myself in an emotional, cultural, researching, technical way, it also allows me keep in touch with the world and understand better the society where I live in. My hobby helps me to work better and being a better person, no doubt! My job allows me to practise the hobby as I get incomes to live comfortably, with all my needs covered, including those regarding DXing and radio activities. Simple! 

I love the radio, but the technology does not attract me, at least in the way many people do. Dxing have to see with listening to the radio, and not as much with signal processing, at least for me. Using computers and SDR with screens is a kind of signal processing task and not real radio by audio. Without a screen or a computer, everything collapses, no radio, no DXing! 

Computers are a must in our society, they are useful tools but also a new kind of slavery. People spend tons of hours fixing drivers, getting new software, changing bank memories, finding the right comm ports, and so on, instead of listening to the radio. I prefer to switch on a button 'et voilá' ! I also have SDR devices but I think I use it in the right way, from time to time, to cover my needs. 

The hobby is facing a very dark future as conditions to practise it are difficult when a DXer is in a big city or dense urban areas. Faster and more accepted means to get in touch with the world are going on. The technology is addictive because we have an addictive brain and the capitalism know that (cyber Monday and Black Friday are there). For them being attached to the radio is a kind of obsolete way to live. That's a teenager's nightmare, being obsolete! No way! 

Something very important, in my opinion, is how to get into the hobby. How many families still listen to the radio together, or children enjoying the radio experience with their families? Even the cars include video screens on the backseats. Years back, clubs helped to many of us to progress. Now there are just a few with not much members and unattractive for young people. 

That's why ULR and portables can add fun to the hobby. Instead of quantity, quality. Keep the gate open to research, and enjoy the nature and wild areas also with a radio in the pocket. We will discover the beauty of life and why not that elusive station always hidden at home in downtown. 

¡Saludos y buen DX! 

Jorge


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Jorge Garzón
 

Well, after more than 35 years practising the hobby I think that I am a serious hobbyist, even when I stopped a bit to organize my children's life, my job career and my own's life after I got divorced (it wasn't the radio at all, 😉) 

I am not only interested in DXing as I am very attached to heritage, ecology and botany fields since I was a teenager being part of my life, both personally and professionally. I know how to draw a line in between personal affaires and work duties, but being both close enough, it allows me enjoying the radio and DXing as I often visit natural and rural QRM-free areas, which is a real joy these days. I could also say 'COVID-free areas', BTW!

For me, a hobby is as important as my work duty and a balance has to be found, logically; but enjoy a hobby (DXing) help me to balance myself in an emotional, cultural, researching, technical way, it also allows me keep in touch with the world and understand better the society where I live in. My hobby helps me to work better and being a better person, no doubt! My job allows me to practise the hobby as I get incomes to live comfortably, with all my needs covered, including those regarding DXing and radio activities. Simple! 

I love the radio, but the technology does not attract me, at least in the way many people do. Dxing have to see with listening to the radio, and not as much with signal processing, at least for me. Using computers and SDR with screens is a kind of signal processing task and not real radio by audio. Without a screen or a computer, everything collapses, no radio, no DXing! 

Computers are a must in our society, they are useful tools but also a new kind of slavery. People spend tons of hours fixing drivers, getting new software, changing bank memories, finding the right comm ports, and so on, instead of listening to the radio. I prefer to switch on a button 'et voilá' ! I also have SDR devices but I think I use it in the right way, from time to time, to cover my needs. 

The hobby is facing a very dark future as conditions to practise it are difficult when a DXer is in a big city or dense urban areas. Faster and more accepted means to get in touch with the world are going on. The technology is addictive because we have an addictive brain and the capitalism know that (cyber Monday and Black Friday are there). For them being attached to the radio is a kind of obsolete way to live. That's a teenager's nightmare, being obsolete! No way! 

Something very important, in my opinion, is how to get into the hobby. How many families still listen to the radio together, or children enjoying the radio experience with their families? Even the cars include video screens on the backseats. Years back, clubs helped to many of us to progress. Now there are just a few with not much members and unattractive for young people. 

That's why ULR and portables can add fun to the hobby. Instead of quantity, quality. Keep the gate open to research, and enjoy the nature and wild areas also with a radio in the pocket. We will discover the beauty of life and why not that elusive station always hidden at home in downtown. 

¡Saludos y buen DX! 

Jorge


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for the reply Keith.

Moving out of the city would make a huge difference and help with the electrical noise.

Much like a fisherman can't fish without fish and a plane spotter can't do that without planes, we are at the mercy of the broadcasters as to the future of AM broadcasts.

On Tue., 1 Dec. 2020, 19:27 keith beesley via groups.io, <keith1226=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have a life-long interest in all things radio, so in that sense, I am a "serious" hobbyist; but I've cycled in and out of the actual DXing hobby several times, due to changing circumstances in my life, so in that sense, maybe more "casual." The biggest boost I received in recent years was moving out of a city apartment laden with all kinds of RFI from streetlamps, trolley-bus wires, neighbors' gadgets, etc., to a wood-frame house in a less urban location. I was pleased to discover I could hear out-of-town MW stations and some SW stations again. 

Now that I'm kind of involuntarily semi-retired due to the pandemic, I hope to find some time to get back into serious DXing again. Maybe I'll start keeping a log, maybe even get my ham ticket. 

As for the future of radio listening in general and DXing in particular, it's anybody's guess how much longer broadcast radio will last. It seems everything is destined to be replaced by online streaming sooner or later. But, broadcasting is still here now, and as long as it lasts, we'll be listening. 

Keith Beesley
Seattle USA





Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

keith beesley
 

I have a life-long interest in all things radio, so in that sense, I am a "serious" hobbyist; but I've cycled in and out of the actual DXing hobby several times, due to changing circumstances in my life, so in that sense, maybe more "casual." The biggest boost I received in recent years was moving out of a city apartment laden with all kinds of RFI from streetlamps, trolley-bus wires, neighbors' gadgets, etc., to a wood-frame house in a less urban location. I was pleased to discover I could hear out-of-town MW stations and some SW stations again. 

Now that I'm kind of involuntarily semi-retired due to the pandemic, I hope to find some time to get back into serious DXing again. Maybe I'll start keeping a log, maybe even get my ham ticket. 

As for the future of radio listening in general and DXing in particular, it's anybody's guess how much longer broadcast radio will last. It seems everything is destined to be replaced by online streaming sooner or later. But, broadcasting is still here now, and as long as it lasts, we'll be listening. 

Keith Beesley
Seattle USA





Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for the reply Kevin, I think this has been more of an issue for people as the line between work and hobbies gets fuzzy.

My professional life is in IT, so I try to not let my hobby become to IT focus, part of the reason I have avoid SDR's and the like.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:17 PM kevin asato <kc6pob@...> wrote:
Hi Paul, 
Serious listening to radio tends to take a back seat in life as i still have a day job to deal with (Please, i am not belittling others activities). Interestingly enough, it involves point to point microwave radios of the analog and digital varieties as well as flavors of Land Mobile Radio (LMR/2-way) radio systems that tie into the IP/MPLS router backhaul networks that I help deploy. I stated my day job in this manner as that is where I see the migration away from radio interests to computers and networking. A lot of the radio shops i used to work with have been absorbed into the network shop with radio treated with the same regard as fiber. I find myself having to explain radios, T1, and analog voice circuits to those only knowing VoIP, cell phones, and Ethernet technologies to a lot of new hires straight out of school as the older technologies seemingly do not exist. The most difficult is having to explain to my wife that WiFi and Bluetooth are radios! It does not compute to her.

In my free time, I am trying to (re)learn CW to get my speed up to a level beyond 5-10wpm. i have just wound a Quaker Oats box to see if I can get a crystal receiver to tune below 500KHz. It would be interesting to see what i can hear as i live almost next to a 50KW barn burner. Probably pointless but hey, it's a hobby and my spare time. If i don't try it, i will never know.

I appreciate reading you postings. i used to be a bit more serious in my high school days when i had lots of spare time. So for the meantime, serious listening is taking a back seat to solving my problems of the day.
73,
kevin
kc6pob

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 7:11 PM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:

All hobbies have people who are involved with them to different levels, this can be anything from a casual passing interest to the other extreme where they are a major part of your life and something you see as fundamental to your life, happiness and wellbeing.

 

Over the years I have been involved in a number of hobbies, with a number of these I was involved at a high level and have seen how “seriously” some people take their hobbies.

 

This year I have really taken on the radio hobby and have focused on ultralight radio DXing, this I have found is a great fit for me. What I have found is that generally speaking, you have people who fit in to two groups, those who take on the hobby at a less serious, more casual level and those who are more serious / dedicated to their hobby with not many people who fit in between.

 

What I have noticed is that as the average age of radio DX’ers has increased and sadly with more passing on, we don’t seem to have many people coming along as “the next generation” who are willing and able to take on the hobby and see these in to the future. Those younger people generally seem to fit in to the first group.

 

How seriously do you take the radio hobby? Do you see yourself taking on a more active / driving role in the future? Where do you see the radio hobby in 10 – 20 years’ time?

 

What can we as a hobby do to keep ourselves relevant today and bring more young people in to the hobby, who will drive this going forward? I don’t have all the answers, I just don’t want to see our radio hobby die.

 

Paul

https://ultralightradiodxing.blogspot.com

 



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Paul


Re: Future of Radio DXing Hobby

kevin asato
 

Hi Paul, 
Serious listening to radio tends to take a back seat in life as i still have a day job to deal with (Please, i am not belittling others activities). Interestingly enough, it involves point to point microwave radios of the analog and digital varieties as well as flavors of Land Mobile Radio (LMR/2-way) radio systems that tie into the IP/MPLS router backhaul networks that I help deploy. I stated my day job in this manner as that is where I see the migration away from radio interests to computers and networking. A lot of the radio shops i used to work with have been absorbed into the network shop with radio treated with the same regard as fiber. I find myself having to explain radios, T1, and analog voice circuits to those only knowing VoIP, cell phones, and Ethernet technologies to a lot of new hires straight out of school as the older technologies seemingly do not exist. The most difficult is having to explain to my wife that WiFi and Bluetooth are radios! It does not compute to her.

In my free time, I am trying to (re)learn CW to get my speed up to a level beyond 5-10wpm. i have just wound a Quaker Oats box to see if I can get a crystal receiver to tune below 500KHz. It would be interesting to see what i can hear as i live almost next to a 50KW barn burner. Probably pointless but hey, it's a hobby and my spare time. If i don't try it, i will never know.

I appreciate reading you postings. i used to be a bit more serious in my high school days when i had lots of spare time. So for the meantime, serious listening is taking a back seat to solving my problems of the day.
73,
kevin
kc6pob

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 7:11 PM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:

All hobbies have people who are involved with them to different levels, this can be anything from a casual passing interest to the other extreme where they are a major part of your life and something you see as fundamental to your life, happiness and wellbeing.

 

Over the years I have been involved in a number of hobbies, with a number of these I was involved at a high level and have seen how “seriously” some people take their hobbies.

 

This year I have really taken on the radio hobby and have focused on ultralight radio DXing, this I have found is a great fit for me. What I have found is that generally speaking, you have people who fit in to two groups, those who take on the hobby at a less serious, more casual level and those who are more serious / dedicated to their hobby with not many people who fit in between.

 

What I have noticed is that as the average age of radio DX’ers has increased and sadly with more passing on, we don’t seem to have many people coming along as “the next generation” who are willing and able to take on the hobby and see these in to the future. Those younger people generally seem to fit in to the first group.

 

How seriously do you take the radio hobby? Do you see yourself taking on a more active / driving role in the future? Where do you see the radio hobby in 10 – 20 years’ time?

 

What can we as a hobby do to keep ourselves relevant today and bring more young people in to the hobby, who will drive this going forward? I don’t have all the answers, I just don’t want to see our radio hobby die.

 

Paul

https://ultralightradiodxing.blogspot.com

 


October 2020 ACMA Data

Paul Blundell
 

The latest ACMA AM Radio Data Set is available now, this might be useful for anybody looking to ID stations.

https://www.acma.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-11/3%20MF%20AM%20Radio%20in%20Frequency%20Order.pdf


Re: Radio Plans 2021

Paul Blundell
 

Good luck with all that Peter, we can help keep you on task.


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:17 AM Peter Laws <plaws0@...> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:01 PM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:
>
> With the end of the year cheaping up fast, what are all of our radio plans for 2021?

I need to up my game in the sub-let's-call-it-2000-kHz spectrum.  I
will likely start with an MLA-30+ because it's easy.  Before I do
that, the 2-m and 70-cm IsoPoles need to go back up now that the
house-painting is done (it's been done a while - I am slow).

I am contemplating a Beverage or other long wire for MWDXing but the
mag loop is much more likely to actually happen given the 12456 other
unfinished projects weighing me down.  :-)   (projects like getting
the dead bands on my recently acquired Realistic DX-160 working and
figuring out how to "restore" the buttons on my Tecsun PL-606 not to
mention finishing the audio interface box for my Icom IC-910 ...)

I also need a better FM antenna both for DXing and just general tunage
in the radio room.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!







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Paul


Re: AM/MW daytime reception test from Echuca VIC.

Paul Blundell
 

Great loggings Dan, it is good to see what you can hear and you are right, being outside makes a huge difference.
4QD  on  1548Khz is an interesting station, earlier this year I logged it during the day time from the North West coast: https://ultralightradiodxing.blogspot.com/2020/01/logging-1548khz-4qd.html


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:33 PM Dan Merta <dnmerta0@...> wrote:
Here's the report from the outside session of the Echuca bandscan. This time outside on the Murray River.
This will demonstrate the difference outdoors with less RF noise.

Results are as follows. 
Date 26/11/2020. Time 2.30pm 
Radio used Digitech AR-1733 barefoot no loop antennas.

549Khz 2CR fair listenable

594Khz 3WV excellent, the strongest station

621Khz 3RN excellent 

675Khz 2CO Very good

693Khz 3AW Average 

756Khz 3RN Wangaratta fair to average. With some sort of whine on this freq. I also checked with another radio (Tecsun pl-365) & the whine was there also.  

774Khz 3LO excellent 

945Khz HPON good

963Khz 2RG Weak to fair. Listenable 

1026Khz 3PB fair to average 

1071Khz 3CV average 

1089Khz 3WM good

1116Khz 3AK Weak to fair

1179Khz 3RPH Weak to fair

1224Khz 3EA Fair 

1260Khz 3SR Excellent 

1278Khz 3EE weak to fair

1314Khz 3BT fair

1332Khz 3SH Good

1377Khz 3MP weak

1422Khz HPON fair 

1503Khz 3KND fair

1521Khz 2QN Excellent 

1548Khz 4QD Faint carrier, some audible modulation. Was a surprise to log this one. Given it's easily the most distant station from my location. 

1566Khz 3NE Very faint carrier.

That's it. From the outside location many more stations were logged compared to the motel room. 

Dan.  





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Paul


CPC Update, KSEN QSL's, Etc.

Les Rayburn
 

Quick Update From the Courtesy Program Committee: 


CPC Chairman Illness- 

On November 18, I underwent a minor surgical procedure to remove some skin cancer from my head. It was an outpatient procedure but I acquired a MSSA infection that resulted in crashing my immune system. This left me out of commission for over a week. Unfortunately, some notifications regarding the WNJC 1360 DX Tests were not relayed to the DXing community during this time, and I apologize. 

Thanks to Paul Walker, Phil Bytheway, Wayne Heinen, and others who helped to fill the void. 


WNJC 1360 DX Tests- 

John “Duke” Hamann continues to work on tuning the transmitters and antennas at WNJC during weekend overnights when their listenership is low. This is providing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for DX’ers to log this station. Even better, he’s incorporating FT-8 mode for many of this tests since he only needs tones for his maintenance purpose. 

Duke has been kind enough to set up a Facebook Group dedicated to this continuing tests, where he also provides insights on what’s going on with the stations transmitters and antennas. This is the best source of information and updates for last minute test notifications. Check it often, especially as we approach the weekends. 

Not sure how long these will continue so get it while it’s hot! Thanks again Duke for this! 


KSEN 1150 Shelby, MT QSL’s-

My illness has also put me well behind on checking reception reports for the recent KSEN 1150 test. My apologies to all of you. Once that list is compiled, Joe Miller, KJ8O will be creating PDF QSL cards that will be e-mailed to all who were successful. It’s at the top of my “to do” list once I’m caught up at work. 

Please be patient, and don’t send duplicate reports. That only slows things down. A test report will be published soon as well. 


This is one of the most widely heard tests in years. Thanks to KSEN, Todd, and everyone involved. 

Upcoming DX Tests-

We have two pending DX Tests. Those stations are awaiting the creation of custom materials for their test which is also high on my “to-do” list. Hope to be able to announce something very soon. 



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…” 


Re: Radio Plans 2021

Peter Laws
 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:01 PM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@gmail.com> wrote:

With the end of the year cheaping up fast, what are all of our radio plans for 2021?
I need to up my game in the sub-let's-call-it-2000-kHz spectrum. I
will likely start with an MLA-30+ because it's easy. Before I do
that, the 2-m and 70-cm IsoPoles need to go back up now that the
house-painting is done (it's been done a while - I am slow).

I am contemplating a Beverage or other long wire for MWDXing but the
mag loop is much more likely to actually happen given the 12456 other
unfinished projects weighing me down. :-) (projects like getting
the dead bands on my recently acquired Realistic DX-160 working and
figuring out how to "restore" the buttons on my Tecsun PL-606 not to
mention finishing the audio interface box for my Icom IC-910 ...)

I also need a better FM antenna both for DXing and just general tunage
in the radio room.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: AM/MW daytime reception test from Echuca VIC.

Dan Merta
 

Here's the report from the outside session of the Echuca bandscan. This time outside on the Murray River.
This will demonstrate the difference outdoors with less RF noise.

Results are as follows. 
Date 26/11/2020. Time 2.30pm 
Radio used Digitech AR-1733 barefoot no loop antennas.

549Khz 2CR fair listenable

594Khz 3WV excellent, the strongest station

621Khz 3RN excellent 

675Khz 2CO Very good

693Khz 3AW Average 

756Khz 3RN Wangaratta fair to average. With some sort of whine on this freq. I also checked with another radio (Tecsun pl-365) & the whine was there also.  

774Khz 3LO excellent 

945Khz HPON good

963Khz 2RG Weak to fair. Listenable 

1026Khz 3PB fair to average 

1071Khz 3CV average 

1089Khz 3WM good

1116Khz 3AK Weak to fair

1179Khz 3RPH Weak to fair

1224Khz 3EA Fair 

1260Khz 3SR Excellent 

1278Khz 3EE weak to fair

1314Khz 3BT fair

1332Khz 3SH Good

1377Khz 3MP weak

1422Khz HPON fair 

1503Khz 3KND fair

1521Khz 2QN Excellent 

1548Khz 4QD Faint carrier, some audible modulation. Was a surprise to log this one. Given it's easily the most distant station from my location. 

1566Khz 3NE Very faint carrier.

That's it. From the outside location many more stations were logged compared to the motel room. 

Dan.  




Re: Radio Plans 2021

Paul Blundell
 

Good point, my recent experience with my AR-1733 dying after only 6 weeks shows that things just don't last. This is part of my reason for expanding my kit to include a few different brands.

Paul

On Mon., 30 Nov. 2020, 20:14 Michael.2E0IHW via groups.io, <blumu=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
I am concerned about the longevity of modern radios
and the disincentive this entails.

There are credible insider reports of designed-in redundancy
after a certain period.  I have three which "died" prematurely,
possibly coincidences, possibly unreliable SMD components.
Dunno.

Not getting younger,  I am beginning to prefer non-UL radios
I can build or fix myself :-)

The gradual demise of AM broadcasting is another disconcerting factor.

Quo vadis, UL-dx, AM-dx, SWL?

Michael UK


On 30/11/2020 04:01, Paul Blundell wrote:
With the end of the year cheaping up fast, what are all of our radio plans for 2021?
...
- Expand my kit, I have my eye on a couple of radios.

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