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Inside DEGEN DE321 & its QC concerns

CM Lee
 

I disassembled one of the two Degen DE321 in my own and I found out that the tuning is done by a ordinary (cheap) carbon variable resistor! (see the attached photo) I doubt how durable the component might be.

Also, Degen might be weaker quality control than Tecsun or Sony. My first DE321 tuning  pointer indicates at around 675kHz when receiving 711kHz HLKA (KBS Radio 1 Seoul), while the second one's indicates at around 800kHz when receiving the same broadcast. In addition, the sound from the built-in speaker is slightly different. The speaker sound from the second one is slightly richer.

I heard that QC problems sometimes occur at DE1103, etc. Degen produces radios that are inexpensive, still cheerful in performance like Tesun does, but Degen should make more efforts on QC.

Regards,

Andy Lee from Seoul


DX ALERT......790 WVCD Bamberg-Denamrk, SOUTH CAROLINA just heard @ 0145 EDT!!

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

Just stumbled onto someone playing Saxophone JAZZ Music on 790 Khz and knew it was something off the beaten path!! Turns out to be.......

WVCD Bamberg-Denmark, SOUTH CAROLINA 1 KW/100 Watts Nights.

It's a NEW STN for both the OVERALL and ULR LOGS!!

Heard on SONY SRF-T615 BAREFOOT

73....ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


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790 WVCD Bamberg-Denmark, SOUTH CAROLINA Oct/13/13 0145-0200 EDT EE FAIR
Saxophone JAZZ Music @ 0145 EDT Tune in. Female DJ spoke @ 0150 and mentioned a Program
on the Station. Gave ID as "Right Here on WVCD 790 AM" @ 0152 EDT. Into more Instrumental
Jazz Saxophone Music.
This is a College Station (Vorhees College) and although listed as a CHRISTIAN STATION, their
Website says they also play JAZZ, R&B, OLDIES and Urban Contemporary Music.

NEW STN ULR # 1059 1KW/100 Watts Nights
ROSS, ONT.
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Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-12 (Conclusion)

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
 
The low-band Asian signals were much improved here this morning, with overall results very similar to those reported by Bruce (although with a slightly different cast of leading characters). Whereas Bruce had 594, 747, 774 and 972 with good audio, here it was 594, 603, 657, 747, 972 and 1053 with the best signals. Low-band second-tier Asians were particularly vibrant, with 531-JOQG, 558-HLQH, 639-CNR1 and 648-VOR all reaching fair to good audio at times. 648-VOR was unusually persistent from 1330-1400 with its Chinese service, managing to get through the oppressive 650-CISL splatter for about half an hour. 
 
 
The strongest big guns here were 594, 747, 972 and 1053, with 972-HLCA again producing a monster signal around 1355. 657-Pyongyang was strong and persistent with its Korean tirades around 1410, and 738-BEL2 was back with fair Chinese female news at 1402  As reported by others, the high band never seemed to join the party, with 1134-KBS, 1566-HLAZ and 1575-VOA anemic at best. In keeping with this trend, the second-tier high band stations on 1323, 1377, 1503 and 1593 never got out of the noise here, while the Chinese middle band stations on 936, 963, 1017, 1035 and 1044 were struggling to come up with any audio at all. Overall it was a pretty exciting session, with the low-band Asian mainland stations showing some energy for the first time in about a week. 
 
 
603  HLSA  Namyang, S. Korea   Strong Korean
            pop music at 1352, // 558-HLQH
 
648  VOR  Razdolnoye, Russia   Fair Chinese
            service at 1335 through CISL splatter
 
738  BEL2  Penghu, Taiwan   Fair Chinese news by
            female announcer at 1402 (standard programming)
 
972  HLCA  Dangjin, S. Korea   Usual monster signal at
            1355 with Korean pop music and female-male talk;
             best TP signal of the morning
 
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 Ultralight +
12" Medium Wave FSL antenna
 
 


Re: Proper DX

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

I think Bruce and others are correct in that it's individual and ought to be fun.

I maintain a log, as much for reference as anything else, but I rarely bother with
totals of anything, because, as Bruce points out, conditions change dramatically
in terms of interference, stations causing QRM and of course equipment. Some
don't even keep formal logs.

Bottom line, whatever gives you pleasure from the hobby is good.

 
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
Grid FN20id





From: Bruce Conti
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Proper DX

 
I've been following the "Proper DX" thread, and it's interesting to learn how various DXers evaluate their catches.  I prefer to keep it simple.  I maintain two separate online logbooks; international (outside Canada and U.S.) at http://www.bamlog.com/2013logbook.htm and domestic (Canada and U.S. only) at http://www.bamlog.com/domestic2012.htm.  The domestic logbook was restarted in 2010 and the international logbook is restarted annually to retain relevance.  While it can be interesting to read about DX from 30 or more years ago, it lacks relevance with conditions today, i.e. receiving 640 KFI as an east coast regular in 1975 vs. co-channel interference today, so I keep score simply by a total of domestic reception this decade including locals.  International DX is more fluid due to atmospheric conditions and the number of nations switching to FM and digital platforms, so I restart the log annually to better reflect the current status, but I don't keep an overall total score like domestics.

To me, most importantly "Proper DX" includes sharing your logs with the DX community in a timely manner so that others may benefit from your experience.  Share your logs via email lists like this group, club newsletters such as those published by NRC and IRCA, and online if you have website publishing capability.  It's a good way to grow the hobby too.  The point value one assigns to DX is secondary.

Last but not least, "Proper DX" means having fun.  Enjoy what you do.  Don't get too bogged down with keeping score or keeping up with the Jones'.  I especially enjoy listening with my cat curled up in my lap, while sipping Newfie Screech on ice or a cup of coffee.  And it's fun to get together with others a couple times a year on DXpeditions.

--
Bruce Conti
B.A.Conti Photography www.baconti.com
¡BAMLog! www.bamlog.com



Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-12

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
 
Asian results here this morning were closer to Richard's version than Dennis' report, with a definite improvement on low-band Mainland Asian signals. 558 (HLQH), 603 (HLSA), 639, 648, 657 and 738 (Taiwan) all were delivering decent audio at times, with 648-VOR the strongest that it has been this season (with its Chinese service, around 1335). These were all quite a bit stronger than they were yesterday, and some of them were still pretty vibrant at 1430. A full report will follow later.
 
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 Ultralight +
12" Medium Wave FSL antenna
 
 
 
 


Re: Proper DX

Bruce Conti
 

I've been following the "Proper DX" thread, and it's interesting to learn how various DXers evaluate their catches.  I prefer to keep it simple.  I maintain two separate online logbooks; international (outside Canada and U.S.) at http://www.bamlog.com/2013logbook.htm and domestic (Canada and U.S. only) at http://www.bamlog.com/domestic2012.htm.  The domestic logbook was restarted in 2010 and the international logbook is restarted annually to retain relevance.  While it can be interesting to read about DX from 30 or more years ago, it lacks relevance with conditions today, i.e. receiving 640 KFI as an east coast regular in 1975 vs. co-channel interference today, so I keep score simply by a total of domestic reception this decade including locals.  International DX is more fluid due to atmospheric conditions and the number of nations switching to FM and digital platforms, so I restart the log annually to better reflect the current status, but I don't keep an overall total score like domestics.

To me, most importantly "Proper DX" includes sharing your logs with the DX community in a timely manner so that others may benefit from your experience.  Share your logs via email lists like this group, club newsletters such as those published by NRC and IRCA, and online if you have website publishing capability.  It's a good way to grow the hobby too.  The point value one assigns to DX is secondary.

Last but not least, "Proper DX" means having fun.  Enjoy what you do.  Don't get too bogged down with keeping score or keeping up with the Jones'.  I especially enjoy listening with my cat curled up in my lap, while sipping Newfie Screech on ice or a cup of coffee.  And it's fun to get together with others a couple times a year on DXpeditions.

--
Bruce Conti
B.A.Conti Photography www.baconti.com
¡BAMLog! www.bamlog.com


Re: Proper DX

Paul S. in CT
 

I agree with Barry. No need to hammer the new folks.

For the beginner, a spreadsheet log is very useful. In the spreadsheet one can use a formula that once written, can be copied into each "cell" for "score". It can have columns devoted to date, time, freq,, call-sign, city-ST, radio, power and distance among others. If one uses a "score" a first equation might be something like distance / (Log(Power)+1), or something more advanced like Log(500,000 / Power) ^2 * distance. (Note: Log is LOG10 in most spreadsheets... LN is the natural log) This will put a numerical value value associated with the combination of distance and power. Both equations have higher scoring as the power decreases AND the distance increases. So in some cases a 50,000 Watt station at 1000 mi. "equals" a 500 Watt station at a much lesser distance.

Paul S. in CT
FN31nl


Dx from condo in Fla.

Dan Philllips
 

I am in Perdido Key, Fl. In the 15th story of a rented condo facing the
ocean. I am using a sony MV37 and have a 12 inch ferrite loop I haven't
used yet.

My problem is this. In the center of the condo the mv-37 receives almost
nothing. On the side toward the ocean every signal is spanish except WSM,
WSB, WLAC, and couple of others. On the north side of the condo most
stations are EE. WGN WLW WSB WWWE WHO KMOX boom in.

Condo is in perfect place (I am in the corner) so cover both areas. It is
the perfect storm like the mountain and cliff with Gary's DX.

Will try daytime dx with ferrite loop, but you can image my dilema, I don't
speak spanish. If anything it proves strategic dx sites are in many many
places it is just a matter of finding the spot. (Dan Phillips N4NU)

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friggin_vinnie_2000 <yankees_1996@...?subject=Re%3A%20Proper%20DXing>
BTW, I DX on the bed for a few reasons. Best reception on that side of
the house. Least noisy (both electrical and family). Can watch baseball
game without causing interference. And the pup lays down next to me while I
listen. LOL

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You guys are all awesomely normal - it's the rest of us wot ain't...

Keep it up !

Michael

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Subject: : Proper DXing


Robert 1, Gary 0.

Sorry Gary. :^)

Andy ZL3APG


Hi Rob, Vinnie and All,

<<< Well....You can let your wife know that it only goes DOWNHILL
from there!!! HAHAHHAA....**I
just told my wife what you posted and she's howling!!! She's been
dealing with my Weirdness for
about 32 Years!!! HAHHAHAHAH >>>

Your wife really doesn't know what weirdness is , Rob!!!

Try explaining to her spending thousands of $$ on FSL antennas each
winter, going up to an ocean
side cliff at 4 AM each summer and dodging 18-wheelers on a Highway 101
turnoff-- trying desperately
to hear weak AM Aussies and Kiwis that are usually streaming live on the
Internet

73, Gary
Gary...You ain't gonna claim the Crown just yet!!! Try doing it in a
Snowmobile Suit with The
Coyotes howling at your back fence, trying to get at you on the Back
Deck in Minus 28 C
Temperatures, while DXing with one of those $$$ FSL ANTENNAS you made
with a Plastic Dishwashing Tub
over over the FSL so it won't get wet!!!!! Not to mention having to keep
an eye on the SKUNK that
is also prowling around in the backyard with a Strange Look in his eye!!
HAHHAHHA....

Maybe it's a Good Thing we are separated by 2,000 Miles.....I can only
imagine what kind of
trouble we could get into if we lived in the same city!!! HAHHAHAHHA..**
..

73...ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA
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My interest in radio began when I was 7 when I used to sneak into my
parent's bedroom when they sent me to bed, so I could tune around the SW
bands on my Dad's Philips portable radio he kept beside the bed. I would
love to say I still have that radio, but I disassembled it when I was about
9 years old. :^(

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Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by: dxergary <D1028Gary@...?subject=Re%3A%20Proper%20DXing>

<<< But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means
something precious still lingers... >>>

Thanks for your "vote," Tony!

Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over
the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in
Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)

OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as
more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election&quot**; is rigged
against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be
in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)

73, Gary

So it is Rob 1, Gary -1

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Ward <tonyward@rogers.**com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@**yahoogroups.**com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Proper DXing

But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means
something precious still lingers...

So it is Rob 1, Gary -1

( I had a ham buddy whose marriage ended the night he presented himself at
his (shared) bedside with patch cords leading to a Yaesu FT101 in the shack
--- listening for a DXpedition. A Yaesu ???!!!)

And actually Rob's wife seems remarkably tolerant of his foibles. It takes
a very special woman, of that there is no doubt ...

Tony Ward (VE3NO) NYAA Starfest
Whitby, ON

tonyward@rogers.**com
http://www.nyaa.**ca

How can we ever be certain that Heisenberg was correct?

From: Andy Gardner <ceo@andygardner.**com>
To: ultralightdx@**yahoogroups.**com
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Proper DXing



Robert 1, Gary 0.

Sorry Gary. :^)

Andy
ZL3APG

On 10/10/2013, at 12:59 PM, Robert Ross wrote:



On 2013-10-09, at 7:43 PM, D1028Gary@aol.**com wrote:



Hi Rob, Vinnie and All,

<<< Well....You can let your wife know that it only goes DOWNHILL from
there!!! HAHAHHAA....**I just told my wife what you posted and she's
howling!!! She's been dealing with my Weirdness for about 32 Years!!!
HAHHAHAHAH >>>

Your wife really doesn't know what weirdness is , Rob!!!

Try explaining to her spending thousands of $$ on FSL antennas each
winter, going up to an ocean side cliff at 4 AM each summer and dodging
18-wheelers on a Highway 101 turnoff-- trying desperately to hear weak AM
Aussies and Kiwis that are usually streaming live on the Internet

73, Gary

Gary...You ain't gonna claim the Crown just yet!!! Try doing it in a
Snowmobile Suit with The Coyotes howling at your back fence, trying to get
at you on the Back Deck in Minus 28 C Temperatures, while DXing with one of
those $$$ FSL ANTENNAS you made with a Plastic Dishwashing Tub over over
the FSL so it won't get wet!!!!! Not to mention having to keep an eye on
the SKUNK that is also prowling around in the backyard with a Strange Look
in his eye!! HAHHAHHA....

Maybe it's a Good Thing we are separated by 2,000 Miles.....I can only
imagine what kind of trouble we could get into if we lived in the same
city!!! HAHHAHAHHA..**..

73...ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA
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On 2013-10-10, at 7:28 PM, D1028Gary@aol.**com wrote:


<<< But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means
something precious still lingers... >>>

Thanks for your "vote," Tony!

Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over
the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in
Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)

OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as
more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election&quot**; is rigged
against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be
in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)

73, Gary
Well Gary...if the Election is Rigged, it still sounds a lot better than
what's going on down there right now with all the Turmoil and Tribulations
trying to get the 2 Parties to play nice together!! Thank God you don't
have 3 Parties like us....it would be Bedlam.

If you can win the Rigged Election..sounds like a Good Election to me!! It
ain't whether it's Rigged or not..it'**s whether you win!!

Salute..ROB VA3SW
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:40 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Fast Logger" fast_logger <patrice.privat@...?subject=Re%3A%20What%20is%20DX%20%3F>
Hi



There was a time for me when marriage itself was a DX (a long time
ago)...now I'm

sharing the bed with a powerhouse !! ;-))



I pulled out TRT Antalya this morning 0320 UTC on 891 khz (paralel to
Istanbul 702 khz but much, much weaker) and boyz, that was DX because the
channel is crowded !



Cheers



Pat



near Paris
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:29 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Alfred Santee"
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According to the FCC DX is anything over 155 mies
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Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:43 am (PDT) . Posted by: dxergary <D1028Gary@...?subject=Re%3A%20Puyallup%2C%20WA%20Ultralight%20TP%27s%20for%2010-10>


Hello All,

Asian results here were very similar to Dennis' report, as the TP's
managed a modest recovery from yesterday'**s clunker conditions. Most of
the Japanese and Korean big guns were back, along with a few second-tier
stations like 558-HLQH, 603-HLSA and 738-Taiwan. Nothing new or exotic was
in the mix, but 828-JOBB (usually fairly anemic here) was vibrant in and
out throughout the 1330-1350 period with its NHK2 Chinese language lessons.
594-JOAK, 693-JOAB, 747-JOIB and 774-JOUB also had good audio at times
during the 1310-1410 session, although the best signals (as usual) were
from three Korean big guns-- 972-HLCA, the 1053-Jammer and 1566-HLAZ.

738-BEL2 in Taiwan was back with fair-level Chinese news at 1402, and
558-HLQH was unusually vibrant (in KPQ splatter) around 1335 with its KBS2
long-set music program, // 603-HLSA. Some weak Chinese signals came out of
the noise briefly on 639, 1017 and 1035, but they never really stuck around
for long. In general it was a fairly average morning, but after yesterday'
**s clunker sessions, I don't think that anyone will complain.

603 HLSA Namyang, S. Korea Fair-good level music
at 1358, // to fair level 558-HLQH
http://www.mediafir**e.com/listen/**223d17xmhw6ud1f/**603-HLSA-**
1358z101013PL380**.MP3

828 JOBB Osaka, Japan Fair-good with interval
music during Chinese language lessons at 1350
http://www.mediafir**e.com/listen/**anzkx43ufbz4pa0/**828-JOBB-**
1351z101013PL380**.MP3

1053 Korean Jammer Best TP signal (strong buzz)
during a fairly average morning
http://www.mediafir**e.com/listen/**d0e2k7le1ax8me1/**1053-Jammer-**
1355z101013PL380**.MP3

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 Ultralight +
12" Medium Wave FSL antenna

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Hi Guys:

Allen Willie has moved to his Temporary New DX Home over a week ago. I
wonder if he's unpacked and had a chance to DX yet??? I haven't seen
anything on the Temporary Website he put up to Post New Loggings??? He
wasn't sure if he would Internet Access however.....**.....

Allen if you're out there somewhere...**I hope all is well and Loggings a
Ton of DX!!

73....ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA
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Re: Proper DXing

bwlietz
 

I agree and repeat my comments.



I feel that to some extent each individual determines what is Dx'ing for themselves.  I use a Degen DE1105 that replaced my Sangean DT400W.  It is dual conversion, not DSP, has virtually no background noise, that I associate with DSP, and fits easily in my shirt pocket.  From North of Detroit, Mi. I can receive Richmond,VA; Philadelphia, PA; Boston, MA; numerous New York stations, Atlanta, GA; Des Moines, IA; Chicago stations; Nashville, TN; Louisville,KY; Toronto,ON; just to name a few.  If I go north three hours from Detroit, I do better and with less interference.  These are all at night or in the morning before 7:00am.  During the day the locals overpower most of these.  I still get low power locals in the 60 to 100 mile range during the day.  I enjoy listening, so I guess that is what matters.  I have other radios, but they are to big to be ultralights.  --Degen DE1103, Sangean ATS 818, Sangean ATS 606A, Kaito KA 1101, etc.

Have a great time.


From: "rbrucecarter@..."
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:45 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] RE: Proper DXing

 
Congratulations on your first DX'ing experience!  I think you will have many pleasurable hours exploring what is available on the radio outside of your immediate area. Do not give up if somebody trivializes your accomplishment.  There are some "bad apples" in the hobby that get stuck in the "my DX is farther than your DX" or "my radio is better than your radio".  Do not listen to them, they are small minding people who no doubt engaged in "mine is bigger than yours" discussions in school junior high locker rooms".

I, for one, am grateful that there is no governing body making rules about what is "proper DX" and what is not.  Rules and regulations would drive people just discovering the hobby right out of it when some "older more experienced" DX'ers slam them down and tell they they aren't doing it right 




---In ultralightdx@..., wrote:


On 2013-10-10, at 7:28 PM, D1028Gary@... wrote:

 

<<<   But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means something precious still lingers...   >>>
 
Thanks for your "vote," Tony!
 
Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)
 
OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election" is rigged against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)
 
73, Gary

Well Gary...if the Election is Rigged, it still sounds a lot better than what's going on down there right now with all the Turmoil and Tribulations trying to get the 2 Parties to play nice together!! Thank God you don't have 3 Parties like us....it would be Bedlam.

If you can win the Rigged Election..sounds like a Good Election to me!! It ain't whether it's Rigged or not..it's whether you win!!

Salute..ROB VA3SW



Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-11

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
 
What started out as a clunker session around 1315 finally broke into a strange pattern of moderate strength Japanese and Korean big guns, along with a couple of minor surprises. In general, it turned out to be another low-average session for Asians, with TP results very similar to those reported by Dennis.
 
 
Around 1345 the NHK big guns on 594, 693, 747, 774 and 828 began to break through the noise, along with the Koreans on 972, 1053, 1134 and 1566. None of these sounded especially energetic early on, although 594-JOAK did manage good audio around 1402. 693-JOAB was fairly good in CBU splatter with NHK2 language lessons at 1410, and 1134-KBS had its good moments with Korean talk (through CKWX splatter) around 1405. As reported by Dennis, 603-HLSA was around at a weak level this morning, reaching fair peaks here with its long music sets around 1355. One minor surprise on this fairly mediocre morning was a signal from 531-JOQG, reaching fair peaks through the 530 TIS din around 1358. 738-BEL2 in Taiwan also made it out of the noise briefly around 1407, but never stuck around for long. Finally, 657-Pyongyang managed threshold audio (undermodulated music) at 1352, but that was about it for a pretty lackluster session.
 
 
Pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker,
at least briefly):
 
594  JOAK  Japanese male speech at 1402; best TP signal
                    of the morning

Reasonable audio at times during the period (much of it
understandable by a native speaker, though often battling
w/splash or noise):
 
693  JOAB  NHK2 language lessons through CBU splatter
                  at 1410
 
603  HLSA  Long music sets around 1355
747  JOIB  Japanese male speech at 1401
774  JOUB  In and out of KTTH splatter at 1404
828  JOBB  language lessons at 1408
972  HLCA  3 + 1 pips and Korean male speech at 1400
1053  Korean Jammer  Good buzz at 1354
1134  KBS  Korean male-female conversation at 1348


not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or
noise could be understood by a native speaker:
 
531  JOQG  Japanese speech at 1358 
657  Pyongyang  Undermodulated music at 1352
738  BEL2  Female CC speech out of noise at 1407


Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be
guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in
talk or music) :
 
1566  HLAZ  In and out of noise around 1409


Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated or
ravaged by splatter):
 
558  639  648  1035  1575
 
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 Ultralight +
12" Medium Wave FSL antenna
  



  


Re: Proper DXing

Bruce Carter
 

Congratulations on your first DX'ing experience!  I think you will have many pleasurable hours exploring what is available on the radio outside of your immediate area. Do not give up if somebody trivializes your accomplishment.  There are some "bad apples" in the hobby that get stuck in the "my DX is farther than your DX" or "my radio is better than your radio".  Do not listen to them, they are small minding people who no doubt engaged in "mine is bigger than yours" discussions in school junior high locker rooms".


I, for one, am grateful that there is no governing body making rules about what is "proper DX" and what is not.  Rules and regulations would drive people just discovering the hobby right out of it when some "older more experienced" DX'ers slam them down and tell they they aren't doing it right 





---In ultralightdx@..., <va3sw@...> wrote:


On 2013-10-10, at 7:28 PM, D1028Gary@... wrote:

 

<<<   But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means something precious still lingers...   >>>
 
Thanks for your "vote," Tony!
 
Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)
 
OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election" is rigged against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)
 
73, Gary

Well Gary...if the Election is Rigged, it still sounds a lot better than what's going on down there right now with all the Turmoil and Tribulations trying to get the 2 Parties to play nice together!! Thank God you don't have 3 Parties like us....it would be Bedlam.

If you can win the Rigged Election..sounds like a Good Election to me!! It ain't whether it's Rigged or not..it's whether you win!!

Salute..ROB VA3SW


Re: Proper DXing

robert ross
 


On 2013-10-10, at 7:28 PM, D1028Gary@... wrote:

 

<<<   But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means something precious still lingers...   >>>
 
Thanks for your "vote," Tony!
 
Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)
 
OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election" is rigged against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)
 
73, Gary

Well Gary...if the Election is Rigged, it still sounds a lot better than what's going on down there right now with all the Turmoil and Tribulations trying to get the 2 Parties to play nice together!! Thank God you don't have 3 Parties like us....it would be Bedlam.

If you can win the Rigged Election..sounds like a Good Election to me!! It ain't whether it's Rigged or not..it's whether you win!!

Salute..ROB VA3SW


Re: Proper DXing

Gary DeBock
 

<<<   But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means something precious still lingers...   >>>
 
Thanks for your "vote," Tony!
 
Yes, I'm pretty lucky that my wife has accepted my DXing fanaticism over the years. She knew what she was getting into, however-- at our wedding in Hong Kong (1990), her friend VR2XDM was my best man :-)
 
OK, Rob-- we seem to have split the Kiwi vote!! Andy G. votes for you as more Weird, but Tony W. votes for me. The "election" is rigged against you, though... Theo D. and Tony K. both know how fanatical I can be in chasing Kiwis on the Cliffs... and they haven't checked in yet!! :-)
 
73, Gary
 
 

So it is Rob 1, Gary -1

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Ward
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Proper DXing

 
But Gary's wife shoots the videos of him on the cliff, which means something precious still lingers...

So it is Rob 1, Gary -1

( I had a ham buddy whose marriage ended the night he presented himself at his (shared) bedside with patch cords leading to a Yaesu FT101 in the shack --- listening for a DXpedition. A Yaesu ???!!!)

And actually Rob's wife seems remarkably tolerant of his foibles. It takes a very special woman, of that there is no doubt ... 
 
Tony Ward (VE3NO) NYAA Starfest
Whitby, ON




How can we ever be certain that Heisenberg was correct?


From: Andy Gardner <ceo@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:01:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Proper DXing

 

Robert 1, Gary 0.

Sorry Gary. :^)

Andy
ZL3APG

On 10/10/2013, at 12:59 PM, Robert Ross wrote:

>
>
> On 2013-10-09, at 7:43 PM, D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rob, Vinnie and All,
>>
>> <<< Well....You can let your wife know that it only goes DOWNHILL from there!!! HAHAHHAA....I just told my wife what you posted and she's howling!!! She's been dealing with my Weirdness for about 32 Years!!! HAHHAHAHAH >>>
>>
>> Your wife really doesn't know what weirdness is , Rob!!!
>>
>> Try explaining to her spending thousands of $$ on FSL antennas each winter, going up to an ocean side cliff at 4 AM each summer and dodging 18-wheelers on a Highway 101 turnoff-- trying desperately to hear weak AM Aussies and Kiwis that are usually streaming live on the Internet
>>
>> 73, Gary
>>
>
>
> Gary...You ain't gonna claim the Crown just yet!!! Try doing it in a Snowmobile Suit with The Coyotes howling at your back fence, trying to get at you on the Back Deck in Minus 28 C Temperatures, while DXing with one of those $$$ FSL ANTENNAS you made with a Plastic Dishwashing Tub over over the FSL so it won't get wet!!!!! Not to mention having to keep an eye on the SKUNK that is also prowling around in the backyard with a Strange Look in his eye!! HAHHAHHA....
>
> Maybe it's a Good Thing we are separated by 2,000 Miles.....I can only imagine what kind of trouble we could get into if we lived in the same city!!! HAHHAHAHHA....
>
> 73...ROB VA3SW
>
> Robert S. Ross
> London, Ontario CANADA
>




How's He Doing???...........

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

Allen Willie has moved to his Temporary New DX Home over a week ago. I wonder if he's unpacked and had a chance to DX yet??? I haven't seen anything on the Temporary Website he put up to Post New Loggings??? He wasn't sure if he would Internet Access however..........

Allen if you're out there somewhere...I hope all is well and Loggings a Ton of DX!!

73....ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-10

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
 
Asian results here were very similar to Dennis' report, as the TP's managed a modest recovery from yesterday's clunker conditions. Most of the Japanese and Korean big guns were back, along with a few second-tier stations like 558-HLQH, 603-HLSA and 738-Taiwan. Nothing new or exotic was in the mix, but 828-JOBB (usually fairly anemic here) was vibrant in and out throughout the 1330-1350 period with its NHK2 Chinese language lessons. 594-JOAK, 693-JOAB, 747-JOIB and 774-JOUB also had good audio at times during the 1310-1410 session, although the best signals (as usual) were from three Korean big guns-- 972-HLCA, the 1053-Jammer and 1566-HLAZ.
 
 
738-BEL2 in Taiwan was back with fair-level Chinese news at 1402, and 558-HLQH was unusually vibrant (in KPQ splatter) around 1335 with its KBS2 long-set music program, // 603-HLSA. Some weak Chinese signals came out of the noise briefly on 639, 1017 and 1035, but they never really stuck around for long. In general it was a fairly average morning, but after yesterday's clunker sessions, I don't think that anyone will complain.
 
 
603  HLSA  Namyang, S. Korea  Fair-good level music
            at 1358, // to fair level 558-HLQH
 
828  JOBB  Osaka, Japan  Fair-good with interval
            music during Chinese language lessons at 1350
 
1053  Korean Jammer   Best TP signal (strong buzz)
           during a fairly average morning
 
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 Ultralight +
12" Medium Wave FSL antenna
 
 
 
   


Re%3A%20What%20is%20DX%20%3F

alfredsantee@ymail.com
 

According to the FCC DX is anything over 155 mies
 


What is DX ?

patrice.privat
 

Hi

 

There was a time for me when marriage itself was a DX (a long time ago)...now I'm

sharing the bed with a powerhouse !! ;-))

 

I pulled out TRT Antalya this morning 0320 UTC on 891 khz (paralel to Istanbul 702 khz but much, much weaker) and boyz, that was DX because the channel is crowded !

 

Cheers

 

Pat

 

near Paris


Re: Proper DXing

Andy Gardner <ceo@...>
 

My interest in radio began when I was 7 when I used to sneak into my parent's bedroom when they sent me to bed, so I could tune around the SW bands on my Dad's Philips portable radio he kept beside the bed. I would love to say I still have that radio, but I disassembled it when I was about 9 years old. :^(


Re: Proper DXing

Vincenzo Sallustio
 

BTW, I DX on the bed for a few reasons. Best reception on that side of the house. Least noisy (both electrical and family). Can watch baseball game without causing interference. And the pup lays down next to me while I listen. LOL

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Michael" <michael.setaazul@...> wrote:

You guys are all awesomely normal - it's the rest of us wot ain't...

Keep it up !

Michael

----- Original Messages -----

Subject: : Proper DXing


Robert 1, Gary 0.

Sorry Gary. :^)

Andy ZL3APG


Hi Rob, Vinnie and All,

<<< Well....You can let your wife know that it only goes DOWNHILL from there!!! HAHAHHAA....I
just told my wife what you posted and she's howling!!! She's been dealing with my Weirdness for
about 32 Years!!! HAHHAHAHAH >>>

Your wife really doesn't know what weirdness is , Rob!!!

Try explaining to her spending thousands of $$ on FSL antennas each winter, going up to an ocean
side cliff at 4 AM each summer and dodging 18-wheelers on a Highway 101 turnoff-- trying desperately
to hear weak AM Aussies and Kiwis that are usually streaming live on the Internet

73, Gary
Gary...You ain't gonna claim the Crown just yet!!! Try doing it in a Snowmobile Suit with The
Coyotes howling at your back fence, trying to get at you on the Back Deck in Minus 28 C
Temperatures, while DXing with one of those $$$ FSL ANTENNAS you made with a Plastic Dishwashing Tub
over over the FSL so it won't get wet!!!!! Not to mention having to keep an eye on the SKUNK that
is also prowling around in the backyard with a Strange Look in his eye!! HAHHAHHA....

Maybe it's a Good Thing we are separated by 2,000 Miles.....I can only imagine what kind of
trouble we could get into if we lived in the same city!!! HAHHAHAHHA....

73...ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


Re: Proper DXing

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

You guys are all awesomely normal - it's the rest of us wot ain't...

Keep it up !

Michael

----- Original Messages -----

Subject: : Proper DXing


Robert 1, Gary 0.

Sorry Gary. :^)

Andy ZL3APG


Hi Rob, Vinnie and All,

<<< Well....You can let your wife know that it only goes DOWNHILL from there!!! HAHAHHAA....I
just told my wife what you posted and she's howling!!! She's been dealing with my Weirdness for
about 32 Years!!! HAHHAHAHAH >>>

Your wife really doesn't know what weirdness is , Rob!!!

Try explaining to her spending thousands of $$ on FSL antennas each winter, going up to an ocean
side cliff at 4 AM each summer and dodging 18-wheelers on a Highway 101 turnoff-- trying desperately
to hear weak AM Aussies and Kiwis that are usually streaming live on the Internet

73, Gary
Gary...You ain't gonna claim the Crown just yet!!! Try doing it in a Snowmobile Suit with The
Coyotes howling at your back fence, trying to get at you on the Back Deck in Minus 28 C
Temperatures, while DXing with one of those $$$ FSL ANTENNAS you made with a Plastic Dishwashing Tub
over over the FSL so it won't get wet!!!!! Not to mention having to keep an eye on the SKUNK that
is also prowling around in the backyard with a Strange Look in his eye!! HAHHAHHA....

Maybe it's a Good Thing we are separated by 2,000 Miles.....I can only imagine what kind of
trouble we could get into if we lived in the same city!!! HAHHAHAHHA....

73...ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA