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Re: Anyone Have Type 33 Ferrite Rods?

Gary DeBock
 

Hi John,
 
<<<   I can get about 2300 uH with the 30 awg magnet wire.  Experiments by Gary and others have shown that 1900 uH has worked well at trying to make the PL-380 effective on LW.  However the specifications from the manufacturer for the Si4734 receiver chip in the radio indicates 2800 uH is needed for LW.    >>>
 
In your Longwave loopstick experimentation, John, it's probably best to remember that with a frequency range as wide as 153-530 kHz, you are going to face some challenges in trying to obtain good sensitivity over the entire frequency spectrum. A loopstick coil wound with 2800 uH will have good reception on the lower LWBC frequencies (153-209 kHz), but probably be a clunker on the higher NDB frequencies (350-530 kHz). On the other hand, a loopstick coil wound with about 1000 uH of inductance would be a good performer on the higher NDB frequencies, but would probably be a clunker on the lower LWBC frequencies. The Si4734 spec sheet recommendation of 2800 uH for Longwave reception doesn't really take into account the wide frequency range of the Longwave spectrum, and the need for a compromise loopstick coil inductance to have acceptable performance over the entire range.
 
Detailed Longwave loopstick experimentation with a signal generator and 5 test models (documented in the article posted at http://www.mediafire.com/view/845snah2h4ek9z9/7.5inLWLS.doc ) was the basis for a 1700 uH coil inductance recommendation with the 7.5" Type 33 ferrite rod, an inductance value which has proven to be acceptable for DXing (by many different Longwave DXers) over the entire frequency spectrum from 153-530 kHz. 
 
<<<   Does anyone have any 0.37 diameter type 33 rods that can close-wind a few (20-50) turns of 30 awg wire on it and measure the inductance?  I suspect 2800 uH on a type 33 rod will be easy to achieve but I want to get an idea at how many turns it takes before I order some as they generally cost more than type 61 rods.   >>>
 
Your coil inductance (for the same amount of turns, and the same type of wire) should be about the same whether you use a Type 33 or Type 61 ferrite rod, but the Type 33 rods are designed to have better performance on the Longwave frequencies, and should be used for such a mission if you have a choice. In general, Longwave loopstick sensitivity is optimized by using a Type 33 ferrite rod, Litz wire of the largest diameter that you can fit on the rod, and a coil inductance matching the frequency range that you are most interested in DXing (with an inductance of around 1700 uH a good compromise value to cover the entire Longwave spectrum).
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 
          

-----Original Message-----
From: kugellager
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 8:11 am
Subject: [ultralightdx] Anyone Have Type 33 Ferrite Rods?

 
I am experimenting with 3" long/0.37" diameter type 61 ferrite rods for making a replacement internal antenna that is effective on LW for one of my Tecsun PL-380 and have had good results so far. 
 
I am getting about 10dB signal increase on my local NDBs (260 AP & 400 FN) over the stock loopstick in my other PL-380 radio. This is with about 2110 uH on the 3" type 61 rod.
 
I can get about 2300 uH with the 30 awg magnet wire.  Experiments by Gary and others have shown that 1900 uH has worked well at trying to make the PL-380 effective on LW.  However the specifications from the manufacturer for the Si4734 receiver chip in the radio indicates 2800 uH is needed for LW.
 
I want to test that inductance level but can't get that kind of inductance with single layer windings on the 3" Type 61 rod and don't want to go smaller than 30 awg wire so as n ot to decrease Q too much.
 
Does anyone have any 0.37 diameter type 33 rods that can close-wind a few (20-50) turns of 30 awg wire on it and measure the inductance?  I suspect 2800 uH on a type 33 rod will be easy to achieve but I want to get an idea at how many turns it takes before I order some as they generally cost more than type 61 rods.
 
FYI:  I also posted this on the Ferrite Rod Experimenters page - So forgive the duplication if you are a member there.
 
John
];')
Lakewood, Colorado
Tecsun PL-380 w/7.5" Loopstick
25' vertical inductively coupled to internal  loopstick.
50' non-resonant "dipole" inductively coupled to internal loopstick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDP-0FAl1JI&feature=share&list=PLCED329D32CFBD BBF


Anyone Have Type 33 Ferrite Rods?

kugellagers
 

I am experimenting with 3" long/0.37" diameter type 61 ferrite rods for making a replacement internal antenna that is effective on LW for one of my Tecsun PL-380 and have had good results so far. 

 

I am getting about 10dB signal increase on my local NDBs (260 AP & 400 FN) over the stock loopstick in my other PL-380 radio. This is with about 2110 uH on the 3" type 61 rod.

 

I can get about 2300 uH with the 30 awg magnet wire.  Experiments by Gary and others have shown that 1900 uH has worked well at trying to make the PL-380 effective on LW.  However the specifications from the manufacturer for the Si4734 receiver chip in the radio indicates 2800 uH is needed for LW.

 

I want to test that inductance level but can't get that kind of inductance with single layer windings on the 3" Type 61 rod and don't want to go smaller than 30 awg wire so as not to decrease Q too much.

 

Does anyone have any 0.37 diameter type 33 rods that can close-wind a few (20-50) turns of 30 awg wire on it and measure the inductance?  I suspect 2800 uH on a type 33 rod will be easy to achieve but I want to get an idea at how many turns it takes before I order some as they generally cost more than type 61 rods.

 

FYI:  I also posted this on the Ferrite Rod Experimenters page - So forgive the duplication if you are a member there.

 

John
];')

Lakewood, Colorado
Tecsun PL-380 w/7.5" Loopstick
25' vertical inductively coupled to internal  loopstick.
50' non-resonant "dipole" inductively coupled to internal loopstick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDP-0FAl1JI&feature=share&list=PLCED329D32CFBDBBF


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 3-6

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
It was a mediocre morning for TP's, but not without some propagation drama.
 
In the predawn darkness from 1355-1410 there was moderate audio from several low band and high band Asians, including 558-HLQH (poor), 594-JOAK (fair), 603-HLSA (poor), 1134-KBS (fair), 1503-JOUK (poor), 1566-HLAZ (fair) and 1575-VOA (poor). It was looking like sunrise enhancement might result in a fairly decent session, but while still in the predawn darkness around 1410 all of these Asian signals collapsed suddenly, never to appear again for the entire morning. At this time a poor signal from 738-Tahiti appeared, reaching an anemic peak around 1420 with French YL speech (in the San Francisco splatter). This signal also bailed around 1430, ending a pretty disappointing session. Best signal was from 594-JOAK at 1405 (fair), right before the Asian propagation collapse.
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
C.Crane SWP 7.5" Slider loopstick Ultralight +
12" Experimental FSL antenna
 
   


Re: Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

Phillip Fimiani
 

Hi Paul
I think that would definitely qualify!... for size, weight and anything else. From what little I have played with crystal radios, not many stations come thru. But I never did use an earth ground....But you never know.... Getting outdoors away from man made noise... maybe a mountain top... or in the evening.... who knows. You would have to wait for station ID to find out what you have received... But that's the challenge. Improving on the antenna / coil can improve the odds.

Check out some of these sites. Some of the more sophisticated radios got some decent reception. The regens can be a bit tricky t use though.

It would be a definite challenge for sure.
 
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: Paul Blundell
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

 
Thanks for the replies, this is what I was thinking of:

Paul


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Myamiphil <myamiphil@...> wrote:
 
In the size factor it wouldn't qualify, but for weight

and power consumption.....lol  (:-)

 
 
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

 
but the real sophisticated ones can no longer fit into your pocket - spider wound coils, basket weave coils could probably be incorporated into some type of head gear but not in your pocket. impedance matching transformers for headphones could fit onto a tool belt. definitely not shirt pocket material!
73,
kevin
kc6pob

That could
be a class unto itself.... Since they are not all that
sensitive, it would be an extra challenge... But some
crystal radios can get very sophisticated.
  
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long:
-74.1768412
 







Re: Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for the replies, this is what I was thinking of:

Paul


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Myamiphil <myamiphil@...> wrote:
 

In the size factor it wouldn't qualify, but for weight

and power consumption.....lol  (:-)

 
 
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

 
but the real sophisticated ones can no longer fit into your pocket - spider wound coils, basket weave coils could probably be incorporated into some type of head gear but not in your pocket. impedance matching transformers for headphones could fit onto a tool belt. definitely not shirt pocket material!
73,
kevin
kc6pob

That could
be a class unto itself.... Since they are not all that
sensitive, it would be an extra challenge... But some
crystal radios can get very sophisticated.
  
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long:
-74.1768412
 





Re: Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

Phillip Fimiani
 

In the size factor it wouldn't qualify, but for weight

and power consumption.....lol  (:-)

 
 
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: kevin asato
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

 
but the real sophisticated ones can no longer fit into your pocket - spider wound coils, basket weave coils could probably be incorporated into some type of head gear but not in your pocket. impedance matching transformers for headphones could fit onto a tool belt. definitely not shirt pocket material!
73,
kevin
kc6pob

That could
be a class unto itself.... Since they are not all that
sensitive, it would be an extra challenge... But some
crystal radios can get very sophisticated.
  
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long:
-74.1768412
 




Re: Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
 

but the real sophisticated ones can no longer fit into your pocket - spider wound coils, basket weave coils could probably be incorporated into some type of head gear but not in your pocket. impedance matching transformers for headphones could fit onto a tool belt. definitely not shirt pocket material!
73,
kevin
kc6pob

That could
be a class unto itself.... Since they are not all that
sensitive, it would be an extra challenge... But some
crystal radios can get very sophisticated.
  
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long:
-74.1768412


Re: Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

Phillip Fimiani
 

That could be a class unto itself.... Since they are not all that sensitive, it would be an extra challenge... But some crystal radios can get very sophisticated.
 
 
Best Regards
Phil
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: "tanger32au@..."
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: [ultralightdx] Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

 
I have just been looking over the definitions of an ultralight radio and was wondering if a home built crystal radio set would fit within these? Based on the list below I can't see any reason why it would not.

The Definitions Committee is guided by the following criteria which characterize an Ultralight Radio (ULR):
1. It is a simple shirt pocket-sized radio of not more than approximately 20 cubic inches.
2. It is an entertainment-grade radio, as opposed to enthusiast's radio. As such, it will usually not have AM synchronous detection, SSB clarification or other specialized features.
3. It is readily available to the hobby in new or used markets at the time of its approval.
4. It costs no more than $100 retail at the time of approval.
5. It is primarily a radio. While it may have other features as well (MP3 recorder, etc.), the design and function should have radio reception as its focus.
6. It is not a "novelty radio" such as Coca Cola Can radio, Mr. Potato Head, etc.



Using a crystal radio for ultralight dxing?

Paul Blundell
 

I have just been looking over the definitions of an ultralight radio and was wondering if a home built crystal radio set would fit within these? Based on the list below I can't see any reason why it would not.

The Definitions Committee is guided by the following criteria which characterize an Ultralight Radio (ULR):
1. It is a simple shirt pocket-sized radio of not more than approximately 20 cubic inches.
2. It is an entertainment-grade radio, as opposed to enthusiast's radio. As such, it will usually not have AM synchronous detection, SSB clarification or other specialized features.
3. It is readily available to the hobby in new or used markets at the time of its approval.
4. It costs no more than $100 retail at the time of approval.
5. It is primarily a radio. While it may have other features as well (MP3 recorder, etc.), the design and function should have radio reception as its focus.
6. It is not a "novelty radio" such as Coca Cola Can radio, Mr. Potato Head, etc.


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 3-5

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Asian results here this morning were somewhat similar to those reported by Dennis, minus the excitement on 1215 of course (there is an exotic Spanish station in Federal Way on 1210, ruining the frequency here).
 
At the 1410 start of my session quite a few low band Asians were already in audio, including 558-HLQH (fair), 594-JOAK (good), 603-HLSA (fair), 657-Pyongyang (poor) and a presumed 738-BEL2 (poor). The high band was relatively subdued at the time, with only 1593-CNR1 (fair) in and out with Chinese speech. Around 1420 signals came up on the middle band frequencies, with 972-HLCA hitting a very good peak around 1425 (although "Freedom 970" in Portland didn't want to free up the frequency). Propagation on the high band was also boosted around 1430, with 1377-CNR1, 1566-HLAZ and 1575-VOA coming out of the noise to join 1593-CNR1 with fair peaks in and out of the domestic splatter. As has been typical here recently all of the Asians bailed in unison around 1440, as if falling off of a cliff. Best signal of the morning (by far) was 972-HLCA around 1425, which would have been very impressive if not for the 970-Portland splatter. Overall the session was a fairly good improvement over the past few days, although probably typical for March propagation.
 
972  HLCA  Dangjin, S. Korea  Very good
        strength Korean YL speech at 1425
        over "Freedom 970" in Portland
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
C.Crane SWP 7.5" Slider loopstick Ultralight +
12" Experimental FSL antenna
 
 
 
       


Ultralight DXing Report - Launceston Tasmania - 05/03/2014

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 05/03/2014
Time: 18:50 - 19:45 Local
Location: Home (back yard), Launceston Tasmania
Radio: 7.5” Loopstick Tecsun PL-380
Total stations logged: 94
New stations logged: 1 - 1476kHz - Radio Trackside
Furthest station logged: 1386kHz - Radio Tarana (Indian). 2430km

Notes: Earlier tonight I spent around an hour in my backyard with my ultralight radios listening to the band. I started off with checking my two New Zealand check frequencies of 909kHz and 1386kHz, as I was expecting no signals were heard on either of these frequencies. My first listen of the band produced 27 stations for the logs, my next run produced 48 stations and my third run produced 60 stations including a new station 1476kHz - Radio Trackside, this made a total of 92 stations logged for the session. By this time it was getting close to sun set and the weather was really cooling off. I did a final check of 909kHz and 1386kHz which luckily did produce very weak signals, just enough to be able to add them to the log.

Overall tonight’s session in my backyard was a good experience and well worth sitting outside for. As summer is now on the way out the days are getting shorter which means I will be able to do more of this over the next few months.

Photos:


THE IPOD OF PRISON - Sony SRF-39FP

Paul Blundell
 


9kHz LogSheet - My New Logging System

Paul Blundell
 

Hi all,
Since I got involved in this hobby I been trying a few different ways of logging the stations I hear. 
I started out with a note pad and writing these down as I heard them, this worked okay but as my hand writing is very bad it was a pain. Next I tried going digital and used a PDA, this caused interference with my radios so that was ruled out. Next I decided to print out a double sided list of all the frequencies / stations in Australia and cross these out as I heard them, this also worked expect I was printing a new list almost every day and it didn't give me much space to write notes.

Based on my experience's above I decided that I could find a better way, with this in mind I designed up my own log sheet and have uploaded this to the groups file area. 
https://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v2/7EAWU5_LsH5kyH629072ujZqmhgrLko4-qFbu03sbogOn_vRsUjt9UPX0pGPgJd7hVpwMq-48_2EPmuDkHcY2w5cxD59NQtWYAp5g6yD3Fpna9PQne-c5Pz6cpPVhhtBsGaMY-tOYpR65bYyJ1Xh8JOv6KRtFpc/9kHz_LogSheet.pdf

This log sheet is designed for 9kHz frequency spacing but could easily be changed to 10kHz spacing if required. I have designed it to fit 2x1 on an A4 piece of paper which means it can be cut down to A5 size. They are printed single sided so that the back of each sheet can be used for writing general notes from each session if required. I have a think piece of cardboard which I staple 20 of these sheets to at a time, once they have been used  I remove them and replace them with new sheets.

Regards
Paul


Re: Rookie Question #1

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Valjoy007,
 
Welcome to the Ultralightdx group-- and we are very happy to have another antenna builder join our fanatical fraternity!
 
<<<   I'm new to the group and have spent the last couple of weeks scanning through everyone's conversations trying to get up to speed. Just last week I sent a top secret (at least to my wife it is) coded message to our contact (and obvious double agent) in the Ukraine and finally procured multiple kilos of Soviet ferrite for my own amusement. Hopefully that parcel will make it to our shores as the world watches the Iron Curtain closing once again.   >>>
 
Yes, the Ukraine is the primary source for ferrite rods to build FSL's, so we have all been watching to see if the recent political turmoil will roil the supply market. So far the eBay listings and ferrite shipments still seem to be stable, but since there is usually a 2 week delay between ferrite orders and receiving the shipments, we don't yet know how the Crimean invasion will play out in the Ukrainian postal system. 
 
<<<    I'm guessing my fascination for this hobby began similar to everyone else...as a kid hiding under the covers past bedtime with a flashlight that wouldn't stay lit. Furiously tuning in the AM band on a cheap Japanese 6 transistor portable (that I wish I still had).
That innovative combination of both Graham Maynard's epiphany and Gary"Dr.Dx"DeBock's design refinements have once again kick-started my interest in this hobby.
After noticing that just about ever GENIUS in this field seems to hang around this particular water cooler, I was hoping for an opportunity to gain a little insight while I wait (hopefully) for delivery. I'd like to humbly submit several stumbling>stuttering>stupid...."rookie" questions to the group regarding my own FSL construction project.   >>>
 
Thanks for the generous comments. Like almost everyone else here, I had my pocket transistor in the early 60's, pushing my luck to receive as many DX stations as I could while pretending to sleep in bed (with a flashlight, and a log). I was a broke teenager in the late 60's, but received enough electronics training in the Navy to figure that someday, innovative pocket radios would somehow transform the entire DXing experience. Now, with the new DSP Ultralights, FSL antennas and ocean cliff propagation discoveries, the DXing future couldn't possibly be more exciting!
 
<<<   So here go's...#1
In order to...
A) protect my ferrite investment/ add strength and durability.
B)  make clean-up easier when removing adhesives from say...double sided tape.
Aside from cost, is there any reason NOT to heat-shrink each ferrite rod before construction. To me it would seem easier if I were to tear one FSL down to build a bigger one. If I had to I could always just score the shrink tube w/a razor and peel it back like a ripe banana....any ideas???...V    >>>
 
Well, protecting the fragile ferrites is always a good idea-- but there are several ways to do this. You can protect them individually, or you can protect them as a group (i.e., make the protection of the entire ferrite sleeve assembly a primary FSL design objective).
 
The drawback to wrapping up each individual ferrite piece is primarily related to ferrite sleeve performance, since the ferrite sleeve works best when the individual ferrite pieces (rods or bars) are as close as possible to each other (ideally, touching each other in something approaching one solid sleeve assembly). Any gaps between the individual ferrite pieces have a tendency to detract from the effectiveness of the ferrite sleeve as a whole.
 
With this in mind, my own priority has been to protect the entire ferrite sleeve with generous layers of soft, shock-absorbing pipe insulation as an FSL inner core, along with a PVC frame designed to take and absorb severe shocks related to an unplanned "drop test." As you may know, all of my published FSL designs are designed for rugged DXpedition usage on ocean side cliffs-- where Murphy's Law is a constant companion. I've had two severe, unplanned "drop tests" of these DXpedition FSL's (a 6" Longwave model in July of 2011, and a 12" Longwave model in April of 2013), and in both cases all of the ferrite pieces survived without any damage. In fact, in the July 2011 DXpedition, the 6" Longwave FSL received its first South Pacific NDB (270-FA) about 15 minutes after being dropped off of a 5' base onto solid ground :-)
 
It does takes a little more time to build this ferrite protection into an FSL antenna, but it's much cheaper to buy pipe insulation and a few PVC pipes than it is to order more ferrite rods or bars after an unplanned "drop test."
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 
          
 
          

-----Original Message-----
From: valjoy007
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 5:38 am
Subject: [ultralightdx] Rookie Question #1

 
Hi Everyone, I'm new to the group and have spent the last couple of weeks scanning through everyone's conversations trying to get up to speed. Just last week I sent a top secret (at least to my wife it is) coded message to our contact (and obvious double agent) in the Ukraine and finally procured multiple kilos of Soviet ferrite for my own amusement. Hopefully that parcel will make it to our shores as the world watches the Iron Curtain closing once again....In the meantime.
I'm guessing my fascination for this hobby began similar to everyone else...as a kid hiding under the covers past bedtime with a flashlight that wouldn't stay lit. Furiously tuning in the AM band on a cheap Japanese 6 transistor portable (that I wish I still had).
That innovative combination of both Graham Maynard's epiphany and Gary"Dr.Dx"DeBock's design refinements have once again kick-started my interest in this hobby.
After noticing that just about ever GENIUS in this field seems to hang around this particular water cooler, I was hoping for an opportunity to gain a little insight while I wait (hopefully) for delivery. I'd like to humbly submit several stumbling>stuttering>stupid...."rookie" questions to the group regarding my own FSL construction project. So here go's...#1
In order to...
A) protect my ferrite investment/ add strength and durability.
B)  make clean-up easier when removing adhesives from say...double sided tape.
Aside from cost, is there any reason NOT to heat-shrink each ferrite rod before construction. To me it would seem easier if I were to tear one FSL down to build a bigger one. If I had to I could always just score the shrink tube w/a razor and peel it back like a ripe banana....any ideas???...V


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 3-4

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Once again some low and high band Asians managed to show up during a lackluster sunrise enhancement session, collapsing in unison after about 30 minutes of modest propagation.
 
During the predawn darkness at 1405 there was already a very good signal from 1566-HLAZ, so it may have been potent for some time before that. Unfortunately, that turned out to be the best signal of the entire session. Around 1410 a collection of low band Asians faded in at modest levels, including 558-HLQH (fair to good at 1415, stronger than its 603 //), 594-JOAK (good peaks around 1425), 603-HLSA (fair at 1430) and 657-Pyongyang (fair at 1428). The usual middle band big guns on 972, 1053 and 1134 were MIA today, but both 1575-VOA and 1593-CNR1 did manage to join 1566-HLAZ with fair to good signals from 1415-1435. As yesterday, all the Asians seemed to fall off of a cliff around 1440, with 594-JOAK the last survivor. Overall the session wasn't anything to shout about, but after the recent solar shutdown it's probably better to be thankful.
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
C.Crane SWP 7.5" Slider loopstick Ultralight +
12" Experimental FSL antenna
 
 
 
 
 
   


Re: Rookie Question #1

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Welcome, Valjoy,

There are no "stumbling>stuttering>stupid...." questions.
There are, however, occasionally dubious respondents :-)

We all sincerely hope your order arrives - and our thoughts
are with the sender's country at this time.

Your idea of shrink-wrapping the ferrites is indicative of
lateral thinking. Not least, it would protect the rods from
inadvertant breakage. I have quite a few bits in the junkbox :-(
Gary et al will know whether the Q of the FSL would be affected.

All the best,

Michael
UK


Rookie Question #1

valjoy007@...
 

Hi Everyone, I'm new to the group and have spent the last couple of weeks scanning through everyone's conversations trying to get up to speed. Just last week I sent a top secret (at least to my wife it is) coded message to our contact (and obvious double agent) in the Ukraine and finally procured multiple kilos of Soviet ferrite for my own amusement. Hopefully that parcel will make it to our shores as the world watches the Iron Curtain closing once again....In the meantime.
I'm guessing my fascination for this hobby began similar to everyone else...as a kid hiding under the covers past bedtime with a flashlight that wouldn't stay lit. Furiously tuning in the AM band on a cheap Japanese 6 transistor portable (that I wish I still had).
That innovative combination of both Graham Maynard's epiphany and Gary"Dr.Dx"DeBock's design refinements have once again kick-started my interest in this hobby.
After noticing that just about ever GENIUS in this field seems to hang around this particular water cooler, I was hoping for an opportunity to gain a little insight while I wait (hopefully) for delivery. I'd like to humbly submit several stumbling>stuttering>stupid...."rookie" questions to the group regarding my own FSL construction project. So here go's...#1
In order to...
A) protect my ferrite investment/ add strength and durability.
B)  make clean-up easier when removing adhesives from say...double sided tape.
Aside from cost, is there any reason NOT to heat-shrink each ferrite rod before construction. To me it would seem easier if I were to tear one FSL down to build a bigger one. If I had to I could always just score the shrink tube w/a razor and peel it back like a ripe banana....any ideas???...V


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 3-3

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Moderate Asian propagation returned to the low and high band this morning, but it wasn't much to shout about. My sunrise enhancement session didn't start until 1415, so I apparently missed out on some of the earlier propagation reported by Dennis.
 
Around 1415 both 594-JOAK and 603-HLSA were already in with fair audio, along with a weak Chinese co-channel on 603. There was also poor Chinese audio from a presumed 738-BEL2 in the KCBS splatter. All of these signals were in and out for the next 20 minutes, but didn't seem to get much of a boost from the increasing daylight. The high band had the best signal of the morning-- 1377-CNR1, which hit a fair to good peak (in 1380 splatter) around 1430. 1503-JOUK, 1575-VOA and 1593-CNR1 were also in and out of domestic splatter with poor audio from 1425-1435, but never stuck around for more than a minute at a time. All of the Asians seemed to fall off a cliff around 1440 here, ending a pretty lackluster session (although a definite improvement over yesterday's miserable propagation). 
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
C.Crane SWP 7.5" Slider loopstick Ultralight +
12" Experimental FSL antenna
 
 


Re: Ultralight DXing Report - Brady's Lookout. 02/03/2014

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks Gary.
I am glad you found it interesting and I hope to do more of these types of portable DXing sessions now as the weather here cools down.

Paul


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, <D1028Gary@...> wrote:
 

Hello Paul,
 
Thanks very much for posting the photos and very interesting video of your recent DXing session at Brady's Lookout.
 
Since the video is especially interesting to transoceanic DXers here in North America who chase the same Australian stations, I have posted the link to your YouTube video on the North American IRCA list. Great job, as always!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tanger32au <tanger32au@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 6:15 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Ultralight DXing Report - Brady's Lookout. 02/03/2014

 
I have just published my report from my Ultralight DXing session at Brady's Lookout on the 02/03/2014. This includes photos and a video of some stations I received.
http://ultralightdxing.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/ultralight-dxing-report-bradys-lookout.html



Re: Ultralight DXing Report - Brady's Lookout. 02/03/2014

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Paul,
 
Thanks very much for posting the photos and very interesting video of your recent DXing session at Brady's Lookout.
 
Since the video is especially interesting to transoceanic DXers here in North America who chase the same Australian stations, I have posted the link to your YouTube video on the North American IRCA list. Great job, as always!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tanger32au
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 6:15 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Ultralight DXing Report - Brady's Lookout. 02/03/2014

 
I have just published my report from my Ultralight DXing session at Brady's Lookout on the 02/03/2014. This includes photos and a video of some stations I received.
http://ultralightdxing.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/ultralight-dxing-report-bradys-lookout.html