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Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Stan Horzepa
 

Gotcha, Gary, but I think a few people misinterpreted that to mean there was no dial light at all.

73,

Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU


On 1/2/15 10:43 PM, D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

Hi Stan,
 
Thanks for your post about the Skywave dial light, which comes on temporarily when a control is pressed..
 
My post about the Skywave referred to the fact that the radio has no selectable display light, to continuously light up the display during DXing. This is a major omission by C.Crane, in my opinion.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Horzepa stanzepa@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

 
My Skywave has a dial light.

Turn the radio on and it lights for about 10 seconds. Every time you
change frequency, the dial lights up again for about 10 seconds. Other
buttons (for example, the Page button) turn on the light for 10 seconds.

So there you have it.

Stan, WA1LOU

On 1/2/15 1:40 AM, neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
> CC should hire you as a consultant!
>
> 1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.
>
>



Re: ETON Traveler III an ULR?

policow6@...
 

It measures 5 5/16" Wide x 3/7/16" High x 1 3/8" Deep with rod protrusion...the case itself is slightly slimmer.


Hope that helps.


Jay

http://radiojayallen.com


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

David McCormick
 

The lack of a "switched" dial light is a inconvenience, but not a deal breaker for some of us when the light is turned on from a switch, or dial operation, on a cheaper China based radio. Gary is right, this was an gross oversight on CCrane's part.

I vote that CCrane hire Gary as a consultant, so we can get the proper ultralight DX model with a correct balance of egonomics, antenna, and receiver gain.

On Jan 2, 2015, at 10:43 PM, D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stan,
 
Thanks for your post about the Skywave dial light, which comes on temporarily when a control is pressed..
 
My post about the Skywave referred to the fact that the radio has no selectable display light, to continuously light up the display during DXing. This is a major omission by C.Crane, in my opinion.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Horzepa stanzepa@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

 
My Skywave has a dial light.

Turn the radio on and it lights for about 10 seconds. Every time you
change frequency, the dial lights up again for about 10 seconds. Other
buttons (for example, the Page button) turn on the light for 10 seconds.

So there you have it.

Stan, WA1LOU

On 1/2/15 1:40 AM, neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
> CC should hire you as a consultant!
>
> 1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.
>
>


Re: eBay seller 'tquchina"

David McCormick
 

I believe Tao is out of business on eBay (and has been for a year), however you may want to look at AnonCo. I've had better luck with them and the reply to questions quickly. http://www.anon-co.com/for_Casual_Listeners/cat2010170_2574678.aspx

Dave M.

On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:37 PM, schuster@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone know what's become of this well-regarded eBay seller?

 

I'm attempting to order from him, but it seems that all of his auctions are now ignored by eBay's listing and search algorithms.  Strangely, Google finds his auctions but if you try to complete a transaction, eBay blocks it saying the seller is "on vacation". His feedback record ended August 2013.

 

On his seller info page, he makes some statements about the well-known issues with shipping LiIon batteries from China and Hong Kong, and that he would suspend new orders until that is straightened out - but would be reachable by email and eBay's contact service. He isn't responding.


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Driv e

policow6@...
 


Re: "Supercharged" CC Skywave

Gary DeBock
 

Thanks for your comment, Jay-- and you are pretty amazing yourself, providing extremely helpful information in your radio reviews for interested hobbyists.
 
<<<   Have you tried the Traveler III yet? It's only drawback is that is has only one bandwidth, but sensitivity on AM and sound are really good...barefoot it beats a stock Skywave on AM.    >>>
 
Well, Eton's size specifications place the Traveller III at 3.5" x 5.3" x 1.2", or a volume of 22.26 cubic inches.  The ULR classification rules in place since early 2008 provide for an upper limit of 20 cubic inches on a portable radio before it can be considered for "official" Ultralight radio status. The reason for this rule was because larger cabinets can hold larger loopsticks, which of course provide greater sensitivity and a DXing advantage for those who use them.
 
Having said all that, Jay, I can understand how the Traveller III would be very popular if it has the MW sensitivity edge that you describe. I haven't tried out the Traveller III yet, but do plan to place one on order soon-- if only to make a full disassembly of the radio to find out its technical secrets. After violating the warranty on four CC Skywave models, I probably know as much about its technical details as a C.Crane repair technician :-)
 
73, Gary
   .    
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: policow6@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 6:28 am
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: "Supercharged" CC Skywave

 
You're amazing Gary...well done! Have you tried the Traveler III yet? It's only drawback is that is has only one bandwidth, but sensitivity on AM and sound are really good...barefoot it beats a stock Skywave on AM.

Jay


Re: eBay seller 'tquchina"

Neil Goldstein
 

His name is Tao Qu, and he used to monitor this group.

I have had email exchanges with him before at tquchina@... 

I also miss being able to buy radios and accessories from him, but have had good luck with Anon Co on eBay.

--
Neil Goldstein  W2NDG
http://www.neilgoldstein.com


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Stan,
 
Thanks for your post about the Skywave dial light, which comes on temporarily when a control is pressed..
 
My post about the Skywave referred to the fact that the radio has no selectable display light, to continuously light up the display during DXing. This is a major omission by C.Crane, in my opinion.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Horzepa stanzepa@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx Sent: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

 
My Skywave has a dial light.

Turn the radio on and it lights for about 10 seconds. Every time you
change frequency, the dial lights up again for about 10 seconds. Other
buttons (for example, the Page button) turn on the light for 10 seconds.

So there you have it.

Stan, WA1LOU

On 1/2/15 1:40 AM, neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
> CC should hire you as a consultant!
>
> 1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.
>
>


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

David McCormick
 

It could be a Photoshop edit, but it appears to show backlight on the CCrane page in at least two pictures: http://www.ccrane.com/Radios/CC-Skywave-Radio-With-AM-FM-Shortwave-Weather-and-Aviation-Bands

Hopefully it was just an oversight. I'd hate to think CCrane is the victim of poor quality from Redsun right off the bat. Especially at the 2X price tag.

Dave M.

From: Stan Horzepa stanzepa@... [ultralightdx]
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎January‎ ‎2‎, ‎2015 ‎6‎:‎58‎ ‎PM
To: ultralightdx@...

 

My Skywave has a dial light.

Turn the radio on and it lights for about 10 seconds. Every time you
change frequency, the dial lights up again for about 10 seconds. Other
buttons (for example, the Page button) turn on the light for 10 seconds.

So there you have it.

Stan, WA1LOU

On 1/2/15 1:40 AM, neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
> CC should hire you as a consultant!
>
> 1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.
>
>



ETON Traveler III an ULR?

Rik
 

I sent an email to the address in the pdf for consiteration of the ETON Traveler III as an ULR but it came back to me.

I have two questions-

If any one here has one, could they measure it? The specs may be just over 20 c.i. but maybe the radio actually is not if the rounded edges are consitered or the measurements are rounded up slightly.

What email address is used for ULR approvals now?

-FARMERIK


Traveler III | Eton



Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Stan Horzepa
 

My Skywave has a dial light.

Turn the radio on and it lights for about 10 seconds. Every time you change frequency, the dial lights up again for about 10 seconds. Other buttons (for example, the Page button) turn on the light for 10 seconds.

So there you have it.

Stan, WA1LOU

On 1/2/15 1:40 AM, neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
CC should hire you as a consultant!

1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.


eBay seller 'tquchina"

m_a_schuster
 

Does anyone know what's become of this well-regarded eBay seller?

 

I'm attempting to order from him, but it seems that all of his auctions are now ignored by eBay's listing and search algorithms.  Strangely, Google finds his auctions but if you try to complete a transaction, eBay blocks it saying the seller is "on vacation". His feedback record ended August 2013.

 

On his seller info page, he makes some statements about the well-known issues with shipping LiIon batteries from China and Hong Kong, and that he would suspend new orders until that is straightened out - but would be reachable by email and eBay's contact service. He isn't responding.


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Russ Edmunds
 

I'm with KAZ on this - why would I pay twice as much for a little improvement in some areas but steps back in others ?

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 3:57 AM, D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
 

Hi Neil,
 
Thanks very much for your comments on my judgment of the CC Skywave model.
 
Although the model definitely has some weak points, overall it does earn itself a place on an ocean beach (or ocean cliff) next to the PL-380. Improvement in DX station audio while recording MP3's has been a long-term goal here, especially with the very basic nature of 1 kHz DSP filtering available in pocket radios. Although the cliff-side DXpeditions have tracked down some interesting DU-DX in the summer, the PL-380's low-frequency bias has always shown up in MP3's, and occasionally causes issues with content intelligibility as well. In combination with exotic Kiwi and Aussie accents, it can make it rough for a sleep-deprived DXer to decipher meaningful speech :-)
 
73, Gary 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>; ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>; am <am@...>
Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 2015 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

 
CC should hire you as a consultant!

1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.

2) As you've shown, the stock ferrite could have been larger. More signal is always better.

3) It needs more volume. Again the impression of more signal and better for digging out weak ones in nulls etc.

4) A better S-meter would be nice. This is for DXers, but the ULR community continues to grow.

If they want to charge that much more than the rivals they need to provide more. 73 KAZ

-----Original Message-----
>From: "D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2015 10:12 PM
>To: ultralightdx@..., am@...
>Subject: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive
>
>Hello All,
>
>As reported earlier, the New Year kicked off with some unusually good high band TP signals (unusually good for this mediocre season, that is). Having just trashed the warranty on another of my C.Crane "Skywave" review units by installing a 7.5 loopstick, I decided to celebrate the fact by trying out the model in TP-DXing. In comparison to the 7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 model, the new CC Skywave does have some distinct advantages for split-frequency DXers. Unfortunately, it also has some disadvantages. In order of importance, these are listed below:
>
>ADVANTAGES--
>
>1) In my opinion, the CC Skywave does provide superior DX station audio with its (default) "Music" setting when chasing DX with 1 kHz DSP filtering. The PL-380 tends to clip off the high frequencies in DX station audio in this situation, resulting in somewhat "muddy" audio and reduced intelligibility (especially when inductively coupled to a high-gain FSL antenna, which also tends to clip off the high audio frequencies in DX station audio). This is a subjective opinion, however, which is not shared by Chuck
>
>2) The Skywave has the edge in the ease of inductive coupling to an external tuned antenna, like the FSL's. For some reason, its new Si4736 chip processes the gain boost from the external antenna almost immediately, whereas the PL-380's Si4734 chip has a slight delay, making it somewhat tricky to know exactly when the external antenna is exactly tuned on frequency.
>
>3) The Skywave has a very convenient function to switch between the tuned frequency and a 24-hour time display, simply by a quick touch of the "Key" button. Any time you wish to check the UTC time, you can do so by touching this button, and switch back to the frequency display immediately. This is perfect for completeing live-DXing log sheets.
>
>4) The Skywave has selectable 1 kHz tuning, unlike the PL-380's jumbled system of switching between 1 and 9 kHz tuning steps according to your rotation speed of the tuning knob. This makes it much easier to control the tuning process.
>
>DISADVANTAGES:
>
>1) The Skywave has no selectable display light. Why (oh why) did C.Crane let this model get out of the door without this basic function? A lot of TP-DXing is done in the dark, especially on ocean coasts prior to sunrise. You will need a flashlight in these situations.
>
>2) The Skywave's audio amplifier is pretty wimpy, in comparison to that of the PL-380. It's easy to max out the volume control when listening to a weak DX station. This issue would be more noticeable when DXing on a barefoot Skywave, though, since a huge FSL gain boost usually compensates for this.
>
>3) There is no display of the Skywave's volume control level. This drawback is more of a distraction because of the lack of a powerful audio amplifier, as described in #2, above. You don't know that you will hit the upper stops on the volume control until you actually do it (over and over).
>
>4) The Skywave's signal level bar graph is pretty pedestrian in comparison to the PL-380's RSSI and S/N level displays. It also lacks the PL-380's temperature display, and several of the PL-380's search functions.
>
>5) The C.Crane's $89.95 price (before shipping) is "Sky High" compared to that of the PL-380 (roughly twice as much).
>
>73 and Good DX,
>Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA




--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: "Supercharged" CC Skywave

policow6@...
 

You're amazing Gary...well done! Have you tried the Traveler III yet? It's only drawback is that is has only one bandwidth, but sensitivity on AM and sound are really good...barefoot it beats a stock Skywave on AM.


Jay


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

----- Original Message -----

. . . the PL-380's low-frequency bias . . . occasionally causes issues with content intelligibility
as well.
In combination with exotic Kiwi and Aussie accents, . . . :-)

73, Gary

-------------------------

Gary, just stand on your head when listening to down-under and the audio will become crystal
clear...

Michael


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Neil,
 
Thanks very much for your comments on my judgment of the CC Skywave model.
 
Although the model definitely has some weak points, overall it does earn itself a place on an ocean beach (or ocean cliff) next to the PL-380. Improvement in DX station audio while recording MP3's has been a long-term goal here, especially with the very basic nature of 1 kHz DSP filtering available in pocket radios. Although the cliff-side DXpeditions have tracked down some interesting DU-DX in the summer, the PL-380's low-frequency bias has always shown up in MP3's, and occasionally causes issues with content intelligibility as well. In combination with exotic Kiwi and Aussie accents, it can make it rough for a sleep-deprived DXer to decipher meaningful speech :-)
 
73, Gary 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: neilkaz neilkaz@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx ; ultralightdx ; am
Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 2015 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

 
CC should hire you as a consultant!

1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.

2) As you've shown, the stock ferrite could have been larger. More signal is always better.

3) It needs more volume. Again the impression of more signal and better for digging out weak ones in nulls etc.

4) A better S-meter would be nice. This is for DXers, but the ULR community continues to grow.

If they want to charge that much more than the rivals they need to provide more. 73 KAZ

-----Original Message-----
>From: "D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2015 10:12 PM
>To: ultralightdx@..., am@...
>Subject: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive
>
>Hello All,
>
>As reported earlier, the New Year kicked off with some unusually good high band TP signals (unusually good for this mediocre season, that is). Having just trashed the warranty on another of my C.Crane "Skywave" review units by installing a 7.5 loopstick, I decided to celebrate the fact by trying out the model in TP-DXing. In comparison to the 7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 model, the new CC Skywave does have some distinct advantages for split-frequency DXers. Unfortunately, it also has some disadvantages. In order of importance, these are listed below:
>
>ADVANTAGES--
>
>1) In my opinion, the CC Skywave does provide superior DX station audio with its (default) "Music" setting when chasing DX with 1 kHz DSP filtering. The PL-380 tends to clip off the high frequencies in DX station audio in this situation, resulting in somewhat "muddy" audio and reduced intelligibility (especially when inductively coupled to a high-gain FSL antenna, which also tends to clip off the high audio frequencies in DX station audio). This is a subjective opinion, however, which is not shared by Chuck
>
>2) The Skywave has the edge in the ease of inductive coupling to an external tuned antenna, like the FSL's. For some reason, its new Si4736 chip processes the gain boost from the external antenna almost immediately, whereas the PL-380's Si4734 chip has a slight delay, making it somewhat tricky to know exactly when the external antenna is exactly tuned on frequency.
>
>3) The Skywave has a very convenient function to switch between the tuned frequency and a 24-hour time display, simply by a quick touch of the "Key" button. Any time you wish to check the UTC time, you can do so by touching this button, and switch back to the frequency display immediately. This is perfect for completeing live-DXing log sheets.
>
>4) The Skywave has selectable 1 kHz tuning, unlike the PL-380's jumbled system of switching between 1 and 9 kHz tuning steps according to your rotation speed of the tuning knob. This makes it much easier to control the tuning process.
>
>DISADVANTAGES:
>
>1) The Skywave has no selectable display light. Why (oh why) did C.Crane let this model get out of the door without this basic function? A lot of TP-DXing is done in the dark, especially on ocean coasts prior to sunrise. You will need a flashlight in these situations.
>
>2) The Skywave's audio amplifier is pretty wimpy, in comparison to that of the PL-380. It's easy to max out the volume control when listening to a weak DX station. This issue would be more noticeable when DXing on a barefoot Skywave, though, since a huge FSL gain boost usually compensates for this.
>
>3) There is no display of the Skywave's volume control level. This drawback is more of a distraction because of the lack of a powerful audio amplifier, as described in #2, above. You don't know that you will hit the upper stops on the volume control until you actually do it (over and over).
>
>4) The Skywave's signal level bar graph is pretty pedestrian in comparison to the PL-380's RSSI and S/N level displays. It also lacks the PL-380's temperature display, and several of the PL-380's search functions.
>
>5) The C.Crane's $89.95 price (before shipping) is "Sky High" compared to that of the PL-380 (roughly twice as much).
>
>73 and Good DX,
>Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

neilkaz <neilkaz@...>
 

CC should hire you as a consultant!

1) Lack of dial light is a shocker. Many casual listeners might put on the buds or head phones and tune around or DX or listen to some program from far away while their significant other is falling asleep next to them etc etc.

2) As you've shown, the stock ferrite could have been larger. More signal is always better.

3) It needs more volume. Again the impression of more signal and better for digging out weak ones in nulls etc.

4) A better S-meter would be nice. This is for DXers, but the ULR community continues to grow.

If they want to charge that much more than the rivals they need to provide more. 73 KAZ

-----Original Message-----
From: "D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Jan 1, 2015 10:12 PM
To: ultralightdx@..., am@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Hello All,

As reported earlier, the New Year kicked off with some unusually good high band TP signals (unusually good for this mediocre season, that is). Having just trashed the warranty on another of my C.Crane "Skywave" review units by installing a 7.5 loopstick, I decided to celebrate the fact by trying out the model in TP-DXing. In comparison to the 7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 model, the new CC Skywave does have some distinct advantages for split-frequency DXers. Unfortunately, it also has some disadvantages. In order of importance, these are listed below:

ADVANTAGES--

1) In my opinion, the CC Skywave does provide superior DX station audio with its (default) "Music" setting when chasing DX with 1 kHz DSP filtering. The PL-380 tends to clip off the high frequencies in DX station audio in this situation, resulting in somewhat "muddy" audio and reduced intelligibility (especially when inductively coupled to a high-gain FSL antenna, which also tends to clip off the high audio frequencies in DX station audio). This is a subjective opinion, however, which is not shared by Chuck

2) The Skywave has the edge in the ease of inductive coupling to an external tuned antenna, like the FSL's. For some reason, its new Si4736 chip processes the gain boost from the external antenna almost immediately, whereas the PL-380's Si4734 chip has a slight delay, making it somewhat tricky to know exactly when the external antenna is exactly tuned on frequency.

3) The Skywave has a very convenient function to switch between the tuned frequency and a 24-hour time display, simply by a quick touch of the "Key" button. Any time you wish to check the UTC time, you can do so by touching this button, and switch back to the frequency display immediately. This is perfect for completeing live-DXing log sheets.

4) The Skywave has selectable 1 kHz tuning, unlike the PL-380's jumbled system of switching between 1 and 9 kHz tuning steps according to your rotation speed of the tuning knob. This makes it much easier to control the tuning process.

DISADVANTAGES:

1) The Skywave has no selectable display light. Why (oh why) did C.Crane let this model get out of the door without this basic function? A lot of TP-DXing is done in the dark, especially on ocean coasts prior to sunrise. You will need a flashlight in these situations.

2) The Skywave's audio amplifier is pretty wimpy, in comparison to that of the PL-380. It's easy to max out the volume control when listening to a weak DX station. This issue would be more noticeable when DXing on a barefoot Skywave, though, since a huge FSL gain boost usually compensates for this.

3) There is no display of the Skywave's volume control level. This drawback is more of a distraction because of the lack of a powerful audio amplifier, as described in #2, above. You don't know that you will hit the upper stops on the volume control until you actually do it (over and over).

4) The Skywave's signal level bar graph is pretty pedestrian in comparison to the PL-380's RSSI and S/N level displays. It also lacks the PL-380's temperature display, and several of the PL-380's search functions.

5) The C.Crane's $89.95 price (before shipping) is "Sky High" compared to that of the PL-380 (roughly twice as much).

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA


Re: New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

R. Mark Barnett
 

Thank you for the GREAT comparison!  I guess I am with Chuck regarding the PL-380 high frequency audio clipping.. I don't seem to hear it on mine. BUT, I am not using the same antenna, so maybe that is it. I wonder if there is some variance, radio to radio or in batch runs that accounts for the difference?  

I generally find your reviews VERY reliable Gary, thanks for all the work on this, I REALLY appreciate it!  I agree on the price... too much for what it is. It sounds like the CC Skywave would be worth buying if they ever put is on sale!
 
Mark B. N8PGV
 


ADVANTAGES--
 
1)  In my opinion, the CC Skywave does provide superior DX station audio with its (default) "Music" setting when chasing DX with 1 kHz DSP filtering. The PL-380 tends to clip off the high frequencies in DX station audio in this situation, resulting in somewhat "muddy" audio and reduced intelligibility (especially when inductively coupled to a high-gain FSL antenna, which also tends to clip off the high audio frequencies in DX station audio). This is a subjective opinion, however, which is not shared by Chuck 
 


New CC Skywave Portable-- TP-DXing Test Drive

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
As reported earlier, the New Year kicked off with some unusually good high band TP signals (unusually good for this mediocre season, that is). Having just trashed the warranty on another of my C.Crane "Skywave" review units by installing a 7.5 loopstick, I decided to celebrate the fact by trying out the model in TP-DXing. In comparison to the 7.5" loopstick Tecsun PL-380 model, the new CC Skywave does have some distinct advantages for split-frequency DXers. Unfortunately, it also has some disadvantages. In order of importance, these are listed below:
 
ADVANTAGES--
 
1)  In my opinion, the CC Skywave does provide superior DX station audio with its (default) "Music" setting when chasing DX with 1 kHz DSP filtering. The PL-380 tends to clip off the high frequencies in DX station audio in this situation, resulting in somewhat "muddy" audio and reduced intelligibility (especially when inductively coupled to a high-gain FSL antenna, which also tends to clip off the high audio frequencies in DX station audio). This is a subjective opinion, however, which is not shared by Chuck 
 
2)  The Skywave has the edge in the ease of inductive coupling to an external tuned antenna, like the FSL's. For some reason, its new Si4736 chip processes the gain boost from the external antenna almost immediately, whereas the PL-380's Si4734 chip has a slight delay, making it somewhat tricky to know exactly when the external antenna is exactly tuned on frequency.
 
3)  The Skywave has a very convenient function to switch between the tuned frequency and a 24-hour time display, simply by a quick touch of the "Key" button. Any time you wish to check the UTC time, you can do so by touching this button, and switch back to the frequency display immediately. This is perfect for completeing live-DXing log sheets.
 
4)  The Skywave has selectable 1 kHz tuning, unlike the PL-380's jumbled system of switching between 1 and 9 kHz tuning steps according to your rotation speed of the tuning knob. This makes it much easier to control the tuning process.
 
DISADVANTAGES:
 
1)  The Skywave has no selectable display light. Why (oh why) did C.Crane let this model get out of the door without this basic function? A lot of TP-DXing is done in the dark, especially on ocean coasts prior to sunrise. You will need a flashlight in these situations.
 
2)  The Skywave's audio amplifier is pretty wimpy, in comparison to that of the PL-380. It's easy to max out the volume control when listening to a weak DX station. This issue would be more noticeable when DXing on a barefoot Skywave, though, since a huge FSL gain boost usually compensates for this.
 
3)  There is no display of the Skywave's volume control level. This drawback is more of a distraction because of the lack of a powerful audio amplifier, as described in #2, above. You don't know that you will hit the upper stops on the volume control until you actually do it (over and over).
 
4)  The Skywave's signal level bar graph is pretty pedestrian in comparison to the PL-380's RSSI and S/N level displays. It also lacks the PL-380's temperature display, and several of the PL-380's search functions.
 
5)  The C.Crane's $89.95 price (before shipping) is "Sky High" compared to that of the PL-380 (roughly twice as much). 
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA    


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Many thanks, Gary!

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