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Re: which receiver?

Russ Edmunds
 

The Tecsuns - at least the PL-310 - are designed for an FM & SW external antennas, but not for AM or LW. Therefore plugging
an external antenna for AM will leave you using only the internal ferrite. The PL-310 is an excellent performer for FM, however.

On the 310, the speed of rotation of the tuning knob dictates the speed of tuning on the display.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM, microcode@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
 

But the Tecsuns have the problem that the internal ferrite rod is not
disconnected when you attach an external antenna :-(

> > But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That
> > was also one of my question..

Yes, my office is full of fans and PSUs. And there is a lot of noise. But
like someone else said typically a portable is not going to work well in
that environment, which is why I had suggested a desktop unit and an
external antenna. And see above, Tecsuns don't get less noisy on MW with an
external antenna because the internal antenna is still there picking up
noise.




--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: For Hans and Miami Phil

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Thanks Phil..
 
Nice that you have the experience that your 310 is more quiet then the pl660. And fine if you can tell us about the sensitivity of the 310 and the 380 on MW. If you can check also SW, that would be nice..
Where did you buy your 310?
 
Hans

>
>
> Hans,
>
> I just got my 310 ET today. It is much quieter on MW than my PL-660.
> I don't know if that's because the ferrite bar is so much smaller
> (the 310 is tiny compared to the 660) or because it's better shielded
> or for some other reason(s). Anyway if you were considering the 380
> then take the advice I got on this group and look at the 310. I can't
> compare the sensitivity between the two radios yet but plan to do so
> tonight on MW. But if you want something really small and don't mind
> not having SSB this appears to be a sweet little radio.
>
> Phil,
>
> You were asking if there was a way to control the tuning speed on the
> 380. AIUI the 310 and 380 are very similar. The light switch on my
> new 310 ET does not seem to have any effect on the tuning rate. I
> suspect it is totally software controlled unlike in the 660 where you
> can select a fixed tuning rate or the adaptable tuning rate. Sorry if
> I got your hopes up earlier.
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: microcode@...


Re: which receiver?

microcode@...
 

But the Tecsuns have the problem that the internal ferrite rod is not
disconnected when you attach an external antenna :-(

But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That
was also one of my question..
Yes, my office is full of fans and PSUs. And there is a lot of noise. But
like someone else said typically a portable is not going to work well in
that environment, which is why I had suggested a desktop unit and an
external antenna. And see above, Tecsuns don't get less noisy on MW with an
external antenna because the internal antenna is still there picking up
noise.


For Hans and Miami Phil

microcode@...
 

Hans,

I just got my 310 ET today. It is much quieter on MW than my PL-660. I don't
know if that's because the ferrite bar is so much smaller (the 310 is tiny
compared to the 660) or because it's better shielded or for some other
reason(s). Anyway if you were considering the 380 then take the advice I got
on this group and look at the 310. I can't compare the sensitivity between
the two radios yet but plan to do so tonight on MW. But if you want
something really small and don't mind not having SSB this appears to be a
sweet little radio.

Phil,

You were asking if there was a way to control the tuning speed on the
380. AIUI the 310 and 380 are very similar. The light switch on my new 310
ET does not seem to have any effect on the tuning rate. I suspect it is
totally software controlled unlike in the 660 where you can select a fixed
tuning rate or the adaptable tuning rate. Sorry if I got your hopes up
earlier.


Re: which receiver?

Russ Edmunds
 

Connecting to a longwire changes the equation, as the internal antenna's shortcomings can be overridden,
but if you are listening in a noisy building, a longwire is also likely to pick up noise on its own.

Unlike some of the other commenters, I do almost all of my DX'ing from my home, and happily I don't have
excessive noise, although there is some, and I have to null it as I have no outdoor antennas because of
my close proximity to several powerful AM transmitters. I have found that for AM & LW, I rely on the Sony
2010's which have better noise rejection and larger internal antennas.

I am not familiar with the WR-30, so cannot comment on why it might be better in that regard.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
 

Oke, I was already afraid for this and I also think it is almost
impossible to reject in these small ones..
But it differs.. I also have a Supertech WR-30
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~tel00101/FotoAlbum/RadioCorner/Sets/SuperTWR30.htm

This small receiver connected with my longwire antenna, give a good
result and has less! noise then my Sangean ATS 909X on the broadcast
bands..

Hans

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:20:38 -0400
> From: "Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx]"
> <ultralightdx@...>
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?
>
>
>
> You may be looking for something which isn't typically a feature of these small portables. Noise rejection
> isn't usually a design consideration in small portables. I have 2 G8's, 2 PL-310's, a Sangean DT200VX and
> a Sony SRF-59 as well as 3 Sony ICF 2010's ( these not Ultralights obviously ) and the only way to deal
> with noise on AM/LW is to null it with the antenna. In the Ultralights, the internal sticks simply are too small
> to be optimal for this. Even the much larger ferrites in the 2010's cannot always be relied upon to null out
> noise.
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the reply..
>
> But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
>
> Hans
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
> > initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
> > deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
> > (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
> > experience of PL380.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
> > [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi..
> >>
> > I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> > think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> > if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> > devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> <wb2bjh@...>
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
> Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
>
>




--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

It s a matter of trying with or without antenna etc...

I had a Sony ICF 2010 in 1990, good receiver!

Hans

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:56:32 -0400
From: "Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx]"
<ultralightdx@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?

Connecting to a longwire changes the equation, as the internal antenna's shortcomings can be overridden,
but if you are listening in a noisy building, a longwire is also likely to pick up noise on its own.
Unlike some of the other commenters, I do almost all of my DX'ing from my home, and happily I don't have
excessive noise, although there is some, and I have to null it as I have no outdoor antennas because of
my close proximity to several powerful AM transmitters. I have found that for AM & LW, I rely on the Sony
2010's which have better noise rejection and larger internal antennas.
I am not familiar with the WR-30, so cannot comment on why it might be better in that regard.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

Oke, I was already afraid for this and I also think it is almost
impossible to reject in these small ones..
But it differs.. I also have a Supertech WR-30
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~tel00101/FotoAlbum/RadioCorner/Sets/SuperTWR30.htm

This small receiver connected with my longwire antenna, give a good
result and has less! noise then my Sangean ATS 909X on the broadcast
bands..

Hans

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:20:38 -0400
> From: "Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx]"
> <ultralightdx@...>
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?
>
>
>
> You may be looking for something which isn't typically a feature of these small portables. Noise rejection
> isn't usually a design consideration in small portables. I have 2 G8's, 2 PL-310's, a Sangean DT200VX and
> a Sony SRF-59 as well as 3 Sony ICF 2010's ( these not Ultralights obviously ) and the only way to deal
> with noise on AM/LW is to null it with the antenna. In the Ultralights, the internal sticks simply are too small
> to be optimal for this. Even the much larger ferrites in the 2010's cannot always be relied upon to null out
> noise.
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the reply..
>
> But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
>
> Hans
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
> > initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
> > deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
> > (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
> > experience of PL380.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
> > [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi..
> >>
> > I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> > think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> > if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> > devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> <wb2bjh@...>
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
> Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
>
>
--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>
AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: which receiver?

Vimal
 

Please refer to:
See if this helps
-Vimal Oberoi


On 08-Sep-2014, at 5:22 pm, "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for the reply..
 
But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
 
Hans

>
>
> Hi,
> Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
> initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
> deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
> (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
> experience of PL380.
>
>
>
> On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
> [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi..
>>
> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Thanks Vimal.. Yes I knew this site and it gives good information..

Hans

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Vimal Oberoi sumanmed@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:23:45 +0530
From: "Vimal Oberoi sumanmed@... [ultralightdx]"
<ultralightdx@...>
To: "ultralightdx@..." <ultralightdx@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?

Please refer to:
http://radiojayallen.com/combatting-am-and-sw-interference/
See if this helps
-Vimal Oberoi
Sent from my iPhone
On 08-Sep-2014, at 5:22 pm, "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:


Thanks for the reply..
But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
Hans



Hi,
Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
(KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
experience of PL380.

Sent from my iPhone

On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
[ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:


Hi..
I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans





Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

and ...
 
I have also here a Sony ICF-SW11

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICF-SW11-12-band-Discontinued-Manufacturer/product-reviews/B0002VM7MG and this nice receiver gives also less noise then the Sangean ATS 909X on broadcasts bands..
 
Hans
>
>
> You may be looking for something which isn't typically a feature of
> these small portables. Noise rejection
>
> isn't usually a design consideration in small portables. I have 2
> G8's, 2 PL-310's, a Sangean DT200VX and
>
> a Sony SRF-59 as well as 3 Sony ICF 2010's ( these not Ultralights
> obviously ) and the only way to deal
> with noise on AM/LW is to null it with the antenna. In the
> Ultralights, the internal sticks simply are too small
>
> to be optimal for this. Even the much larger ferrites in the 2010's
> cannot always be relied upon to null out
>
> noise.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@...
> [ultralightdx] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the reply..
>>
> But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That
> was also one of my question..
>
> Hans
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
>> initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
>> deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
>> (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have
>> no experience of PL380.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
>> [ultralightdx]" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi..
>>>
>> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
>> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to
>> know if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of
>> electric devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences,
>> thanks!   Hans
>>
>>
>> Posted by: Vimal Oberoi
>
>
> --
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
>
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder; Onkyo T-450RDS;
> Tecsun PL-310 ( 2); modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15'; Grundig G8
> w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Russ Edmunds


Re: which receiver?

Russ Edmunds
 

You may be looking for something which isn't typically a feature of these small portables. Noise rejection
isn't usually a design consideration in small portables. I have 2 G8's, 2 PL-310's, a Sangean DT200VX and
a Sony SRF-59 as well as 3 Sony ICF 2010's ( these not Ultralights obviously ) and the only way to deal
with noise on AM/LW is to null it with the antenna. In the Ultralights, the internal sticks simply are too small
to be optimal for this. Even the much larger ferrites in the 2010's cannot always be relied upon to null out
noise.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the reply..
 
But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
 
Hans

>
>
> Hi,
> Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
> initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
> deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
> (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
> experience of PL380.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
> [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi..
>>
> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>




--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>

AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Oke, I was already afraid for this and I also think it is almost impossible to reject in these small ones..
But it differs.. I also have a Supertech WR-30
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~tel00101/FotoAlbum/RadioCorner/Sets/SuperTWR30.htm

This small receiver connected with my longwire antenna, give a good result and has less! noise then my Sangean ATS 909X on the broadcast bands..

Hans

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 08:20:38 -0400
From: "Russ Edmunds wb2bjh@... [ultralightdx]"
<ultralightdx@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?

You may be looking for something which isn't typically a feature of these small portables. Noise rejection
isn't usually a design consideration in small portables. I have 2 G8's, 2 PL-310's, a Sangean DT200VX and
a Sony SRF-59 as well as 3 Sony ICF 2010's ( these not Ultralights obviously ) and the only way to deal
with noise on AM/LW is to null it with the antenna. In the Ultralights, the internal sticks simply are too small
to be optimal for this. Even the much larger ferrites in the 2010's cannot always be relied upon to null out
noise.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

Thanks for the reply..
But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
Hans



Hi,
Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
(KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
experience of PL380.

Sent from my iPhone

On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
[ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:


Hi..
I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans





Posted by: Vimal Oberoi <sumanmed@...>
--
Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>
AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Thanks for the reply..
 
But do you have and others experiences with electric noise etc? That was also one of my question..
 
Hans

>
>
> Hi,
> Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab
> initio. PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has
> deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier. DE1103
> (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet. BTW I own PL390 & KA1103. I have no
> experience of PL380.
>
>
>
> On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@...
> [ultralightdx]" wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi..
>>
> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Vimal Oberoi


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Have had many desktop receivers in the very past.. Kenwood 5000, Lowe, etc.. but now I prefer small light ones. I have already a longwire antenna in my garden.
 
Hans
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:56:54AM +0200, Hans Stam
> hansstam@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
>
>> Well, I only use my Sangean ATS 909X inmy house as desktop
>> receiver..
>> and will do that also with new (advised) receivers..
>>
> Then you should get a desktop receiver and set up an external antenna.
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: microcode@...


Question on PL-310ET

microcode@...
 

My 310 ET just arrived today. Neat little radio. Tiny!

Unfortunately mine appears to be a return. If you have bought one of these
recently can you tell me if it comes with a plastic sheet over the LCD? My
660 I bought from a different source came with one but this unit didn't. The
antenna is bent in a couple of places. At first I thought it might have
gotten beat up in shipping because the box was smashed somewhat but now I'm
starting to wonder if this was bought and sent back and then sold to me as
new.

Production date is May 2014 which seems like possibly a long lead time given
my order in the middle of August and how many the guy appears to be
selling. Would like to know if this seller is ok or pulling a fast one on
me. Was bought direct from China.

Thanks for any help guys.


Re: which receiver?

Vimal
 

Hi,
Do'nt go for PL390.It has faulty decoders for tuning and volume,ab initio.
PL380 has made some changes in circuit board which has deviated it's performance from what was reviewed earlier.
DE1103 (KA1103) seems to be a safe bet.
BTW I own PL390 & KA1103.
I have no experience of PL380.


On 08-Sep-2014, at 1:40 am, "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

 

Hi..
 
I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390
But also think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.
 
I like to know if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric devices etc.
 
Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!
 
Hans


Re: which receiver?

steve@...
 

Hi,
As people have said the DE-1103 doesn't qualify as an Ultralight so in terms of contests etc it is out.
However, if you are looking for a reasonably lightweight LW/MW/SW/FM receiver it is excellent. I have a Degen 1103, a Tecsun PL-600, a Tecsun PL-310et and a Tecsun PL-606 (I know, I know - very sad!).
The Degen is noticeably more sensitive on MW than the others using its own ferrite rod. If you use an external loop or other antenna then the difference vanishes.  I also find that the PL-606 and the 310 have some odd spurious spikes around MW, including 882 (ish) which doesn't help with DXing. However, when I'm travelling and want a very lightweight receiver the PL-606 is probably the one I pack - horses for courses.
You may read that the Degen display is a little pointless, which is true, but it is a fine radio and you won't be disappointed (even if I did have to hit the reset button the other day when I changed the batteries).
If you could take the best of the DE1103 and the form factor and useability of the PL310 you would have a winner.

Steve


Re: which receiver?

microcode@...
 

On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:56:54AM +0200, Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
Well, I only use my Sangean ATS 909X inmy house as desktop receiver..
and will do that also with new (advised) receivers..
Then you should get a desktop receiver and set up an external antenna.


Re: which receiver?

Hans Stam <hansstam@...>
 

Well, I only use my Sangean ATS 909X inmy house as desktop receiver..
and will do that also with new (advised) receivers..
 
Hans

>
>
> Don't need a lot of radios. indoors nothing works very well..
> especially in a steel structured type. I use my radios outdoors or at
> home. with some sort of ext antenna.
>
>
> I just recently acquired the Tecsun.....I believe it was one that was
> modified by Gary DeBock. I haven't been in an active search for
> anything else.
>
> I haven't used the 380 in my house that much. Ill have to ry and see
> what it can do there. I have a Sony retractible long wire  I can use
> for SW....
>
>
> Best Regards
> Phil
> WA2069SWL
>
> Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
>
>
> From: "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]"
>
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?
>
>
> Hi Phil and thanks for your comment..
> I have here the Sangean ATS 909X, not bad but not so sensitive.. But
> the problem here is that listening to broadcasts, there is much noise
> in the (office) surrounding here. I use a wire antenna of about 10
> meter. usb/lsb no problem, no noise etc.   Thats why I am looking
> also for a receiver that is not so sensible for noise..how about the
> 380? FM and LW is not interesting for me, only AM and SW   Why no
> Degens?   Hans  
>
>>
>> I have the 380, modified with an external larger sleeve antenna....
>> Works great. I'm still working on an external antenna for SW... AM
>> is great. Better sensitivity with the external antenna. I like the
>> auto search feature, It will pick up and store all the sigs found
>> in a band (AM etc).
>>
>>
>> FM is good too..
>> sound is great for its size.
>>
>>
>> I like the USB cable for recharging the batteries. Wish the ATS909
>> had that feature....
>>
>>
>> Still haven't figured out how to change freqs  and not have it jump
>> in 10s of MHZ.... You have to rotate the knob VERY slowly.... to
>> change in 1 MHz steps.
>>
>>
>> Still working on the active antenna that will help me with SW and
>> LW... I need a broadcast filter too... I have a local ramming down
>> the receiver.... So when I do use the active antenna, its VERY
>> sensitive to the point of overload. The filter and grounding will
>> help that.
>>
>>
>> Don't have any Degens....
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Phil
>> WA2069SWL
>>
>> Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
>>
>> Icom R71A
>> Sangean ATS909
>> Tecsun PL380
>>
>>
>> From: "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]"
>> To: ultralightdx@...
>> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: [ultralightdx]
>> which receiver?
>>
>>
>> Hi..
>>
>> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
>> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to
>> know if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of
>> electric devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences,
>> thanks!   Hans
>>
>>
>> Posted by: Myamiphil
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Myamiphil


Re: which receiver?

Phillip Fimiani
 

Ill have to give that a try this week....
 
 
Best Regards
Phil
WA2069SWL
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: "microcode@... [ultralightdx]"
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?

 
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 09:58:50PM -0700, Myamiphil myamiphil@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

> Still haven't figured out how to change freqs and not have it jump in 10s
> of MHZ.... You have to rotate the knob VERY slowly.... to change in 1 MHz
> steps.

If it's like the 660 you can hold down the light button while the radio is
on and it will cycle through slow, fast, fast slow choices. The fast slow
choice is the so-called "intelligent" step mode where it's supposed to
figure out if you're tuning fast or slow. Of course the light button also
affects the light settings so it's a little tricky to get everything the way
you want. But eventually you get used to it.




Re: which receiver?

Phillip Fimiani
 

Don't need a lot of radios. indoors nothing works very well.. especially in a steel structured type. I use my radios outdoors or at home. with some sort of ext antenna.
 
I just recently acquired the Tecsun.....I believe it was one that was modified by Gary DeBock. I haven't been in an active search for anything else.

I haven't used the 380 in my house that much. Ill have to ry and see what it can do there. I have a Sony retractible long wire  I can use for SW....

Best Regards
Phil
WA2069SWL
Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
 



From: "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]"
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] which receiver?

 
Hi Phil and thanks for your comment..
I have here the Sangean ATS 909X, not bad but not so sensitive..
But the problem here is that listening to broadcasts, there is much noise in the (office) surrounding here. I use a wire antenna of about 10 meter. usb/lsb no problem, no noise etc.
 
Thats why I am looking also for a receiver that is not so sensible for noise..how about the 380? FM and LW is not interesting for me, only AM and SW
 
Why no Degens?
 
Hans
 

>
>
> I have the 380, modified with an external larger sleeve antenna....
> Works great. I'm still working on an external antenna for SW... AM is
> great. Better sensitivity with the external antenna. I like the auto
> search feature, It will pick up and store all the sigs found in a
> band (AM etc).
>
>
> FM is good too..
> sound is great for its size.
>
>
> I like the USB cable for recharging the batteries. Wish the ATS909
> had that feature....
>
>
> Still haven't figured out how to change freqs  and not have it jump
> in 10s of MHZ.... You have to rotate the knob VERY slowly.... to
> change in 1 MHz steps.
>
>
> Still working on the active antenna that will help me with SW and
> LW... I need a broadcast filter too... I have a local ramming down
> the receiver.... So when I do use the active antenna, its VERY
> sensitive to the point of overload. The filter and grounding will help
> that.
>
>
> Don't have any Degens....
>
>
> Best Regards
> Phil
> WA2069SWL
>
> Lat: 40.8367633  Long: -74.1768412
>
> Icom R71A
> Sangean ATS909
> Tecsun PL380
>
>
> From: "Hans Stam hansstam@... [ultralightdx]"
>
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:10 PM
> Subject: [ultralightdx] which receiver?
>
>
> Hi..
>
> I am looking for a receiver like the Tecsun PL-380 or 390 But also
> think about a DE1103 I have read many good reviews.   I like to know
> if the 380 is worth buying, and how it handles with noise of electric
> devices etc.   Please tell me about your experiences, thanks!   Hans
>
>
>
>
>
> Posted by: Myamiphil


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