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Re: Gray Line Propagation

bbwrwy
 

Gary:

I use the web site occasionally and you're correct it's an excellent
resource.

I also use a program called AZMAP v. 3.7. It's available from http://www.aa6z.com/. I've found it useful.

Good DX.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(near Perry OK).


Re: Another One From the Graveyard and a Modest Proposal

robert ross
 

At 08:45 AM 11/30/2008, you wrote:

John,

We already have GY distance Records and I was very underwhelmed by the
response to such (the Unlimited one went 6 months after announcement
without anyone even submitting a logging and the Barefoot has had only
two/three submissions, mostly from Allen Willie.)

We might add one or two Awards to gage interest. What would you suggest???

John B.

Hi Folks:

I think one of the problems with the Graveyard Distance Records, is
that in general...most Graveyard Receptions are rather short Distances,
there are exceptions of course. A 500 Mile GY Reception is pretty
good....but in the scope of the worldwide DX we've been hearing...a lot of
DX'ers wouldn't even report that as a Possible Distance Record. Even a 1000
Mile reception seems pale compared to the TP and TA stuff everyone is
hearing!! I have logged a pile of GY'ers with the Ultralights....but none
of them have been at a great distance. Allen Willie and Kirk Allen have
heard a few Good ones lately..and I believe they have been reported and
recorded in the records. Maybe we should make a concerted effort to monitor
the GY Freqs a little better...and see if we can't get some new records
recorded!! I'm a firm believer that if you spend time at the dials on
certain frequencies..the stations will come. You just have to be there at
the right time!!

Maybe something we can look at is...a "TOTAL GY STATIONS HEARD" Award????
What does everyone think about that?? Maybe we can get some input from the
UL Members...and then the Committee can talk about implementing an award if
its warranted??!!

Maybe John can design a Nice certificate with a TOMBSTONE on it
!!HAHHAHHA...Just an Idea!!!! I don't think adding this award would be a
Burden to me as far as checking Logs....It may add some work to John's Busy
Schedule.....but I think it may be something we can look at. John and
Gary....what do you think?? More importantly...let's hear from the
membership!!! It's you guys this whole Awards Program was intended for..so
let us know if a Graveyard Award is something that you would like to see!!

We all ears......

73....ROB.


Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
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Re: Another One From the Graveyard and a Modest Proposal

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

John,

We already have GY distance Records and I was very underwhelmed by the response to such (the Unlimited one went 6 months after announcement without anyone even submitting a logging and the Barefoot has had only two/three submissions, mostly from Allen Willie.)

We might add one or two Awards to gage interest. What would you suggest???

John B.





At 01:11 PM 11/30/2008 +0000, you wrote:

Another new UL station this morning:

1340 WYCB Washington DC, ID, into downtown DC church service on a
Sunday morning at 0800. UL station #431.

And a suggestion to add more work for the awards committee- how about
an award program from UL graveyard DXing? We have it for foreign and
regular domestic DXing, and graveyard DXing is a sub-section of the
hobby in its own right.

Hmmm?

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE


Another One From the Graveyard and a Modest Proposal

John Cereghin <jcereghin@...>
 

Another new UL station this morning:

1340 WYCB Washington DC, ID, into downtown DC church service on a
Sunday morning at 0800. UL station #431.

And a suggestion to add more work for the awards committee- how about
an award program from UL graveyard DXing? We have it for foreign and
regular domestic DXing, and graveyard DXing is a sub-section of the
hobby in its own right.

Hmmm?

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE


Re: Gray Line Propagation

Steve Ponder <n5wbi@...>
 

Kirk,

You are correct! It was called the "DX Edge" and I still
use mine. I keep the white plastic world map "slider" and
the clear plastic overlays in a white over-sized postal
envelope in the front pocket of one of my DX notebooks.

It's amazing that the overlays haven't yellowed with age!!

Comes in handy when I'm too lazy to boot up the laptop!!

73,

Steve N5WBI
Houston TX


Re: The Allen Boys Ride Again: Three Awards Conferred

satya@...
 

Way to go, guys! Besides cracking open the Asian TP market, you're
setting the pace domestically as well. Soon I'm sure we'll be hearing
about your next hundred milestone!

Kevin S.
Bainbridge Island, WA

Congratulations, again, to both the Allens from Oklahoma:

Richard Allen just received his certificate for 400 Stations Heard
Barefoot, becoming only the 4th DXer to do so.

Kirk Allen just received two awards with his Unlimited Class
Receivers: 300 Stations Heard and 40 Latin Stations heard. Kirk was
the first DXer in Unlimited ranks to make it to 300 stations and the
first in either Class to hit the 40 Latins Heard mark.

John Bryant
for The Awards Committee

These Awards are examples of the extensive group of awards
certificates available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee.
Each recipient receives a digital file which may be used for
electronic display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 1/2"
x 11" on good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and
the simple application procedures are found in the Ultralight Files
area of dxer.ca


Re: The Allen Boys Ride Again: Three Awards Conferred

robert ross
 

At 05:34 PM 11/29/2008, you wrote:

Congratulations, again, to both the Allens from Oklahoma:

Richard Allen just received his certificate for 400 Stations Heard Barefoot, becoming only the 4th DXer to do so.

Kirk Allen just received two awards with his Unlimited Class Receivers: 300 Stations Heard and 40 Latin Stations heard. Kirk was the first DXer in Unlimited ranks to make it to 300 stations and the first in either Class to hit the 40 Latins Heard mark.

John Bryant
for The Awards Committe


I have Nicknamed these two the "Oklahoma ULR Mafia"....as they seem to have a STRANGLEHOLD on all the DX lately!!! HAHHAHHA....

73...ROB.



Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«


congratulations to all award winners

Allen Willie
 

 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
I would like to congratulate everyone on their awards won lately, havent spent as much time here at the dials as usual myself due to having the flu bug and then a week or so of preparing our 3 internet radio stations for christmas and its music . Hopefully will have more time to DX now heading into the new year.
 
Congratulations to Richard Allen and Kirk Allen on receiving their awards for their accomplsihments as well as Kevin S on the west coast in receiving his Founders award. Richly deserved Kevin !  Also  a big thanks to the awards committee in doing up my submitted paperwork for some awards also.
 
73 and Good DX Guys !
 
Allen Willie
St. John's, Newfoundland


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The Allen Boys Ride Again: Three Awards Conferred

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Congratulations, again, to both the Allens from Oklahoma:

Richard Allen just received his certificate for 400 Stations Heard Barefoot, becoming only the 4th DXer to do so.

Kirk Allen just received two awards with his Unlimited Class Receivers: 300 Stations Heard and 40 Latin Stations heard. Kirk was the first DXer in Unlimited ranks to make it to 300 stations and the first in either Class to hit the 40 Latins Heard mark.

John Bryant
for The Awards Committee

These Awards are examples of the extensive group of awards certificates available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee. Each recipient receives a digital file which may be used for electronic display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 1/2" x 11" on good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and the simple application procedures are found in the Ultralight Files area of dxer.ca


Re: SEVEN Awards Conferred on Allen Willie

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Congratulations Allen! That's nothing short of amazing. I'm looking
forward to more great loggings from you in the year ahead!
73's!
Kirk Allen
Ponca City, OK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "John H. Bryant"
<bjohnorcas@...> wrote:

"Congratulations" is a very inadequate word for this situation!
Like
most other DXers, Allen had "saved up" his awards and applied for a
bunch of them, all at once. Rob Ross and I just completed
processing
Allen's submission four SEVEN, count'em, S*E*V*E*N awards.
Further,
several of those are unprecedented, even in ULR circles and, a year
ago, assumed to be totally impossible by folks in the radio hobbies.

We just sent Allen Willie the following:

65 Trans-Atlantic Countries Heard (!!!)
200 Trans-Atlantic Stations Heard (!!!)
300 Stations Heard
400 Stations Heard
25 US States Heard
Latin American DXer
10 Latin American Stations Heard

Allen really ought to get that Sony SRF-M37V bronzed and mounted on
a
very nice pedestal!

CONGRATULATIONS FROM US ALL, ALLEN!!!

John Bryant
for The Awards Committee

This Award is one of an extensive group of awards certificates
available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee. Each
recipient receives a digital file which may be used for electronic
display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 12" x 11" on
good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and the
simple
application procedures are found in the Ultralight Files area of
dxer.ca


Re: Trans-Oceanic DX from Oklahoma

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

--- On Sat, 11/29/08, John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...> wrote:


Russ,

I completely agree with you, including your conclusion.. .. but it is not relevant to the paths from Oklahoma as the two graphics demonstrate. .. The southerly offset of the magnetic pole is taken into account in that graphic, for each route.

__________________


Going back to your earlier post, you indicated that the pix didn't reflect the distoritoon of the absorption zone due to the expansion of the zone on the darkenss side. That lack is quite apparent. I still believe that were we to have a reasonably representative diagram which took that factor into account as well, it would support my contention, but we don't.

As with anything having to do with propagation of radio waves, there are always multiple factors at work, and that may also be the case here.



Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


Re: Trans-Oceanic DX from Oklahoma

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

At 12:34 PM 11/29/2008 -0800, you wrote:
The solar 'pressure' would be equal, however on the TA route, we have the North Magnetic Pole located south of the actual geographical pole. This exaggerates the effect because the starting point for the auroral zone is further south at that point than at any other. As the absorption zone 'rotates' around the magnetic pole as the earth rotates, its effect moves westward, however because of that, the maximum southward extension has already been achieved and as the zone moves westward, it also recedes northware as the distance from the longitude of the magnetic pole becomes greater.

Therefore, given the same level of geomagnetic activity, the most significnt effect is in the Eastern part of North America.


Russ,

I completely agree with you, including your conclusion.... but it is not relevant to the paths from Oklahoma as the two graphics demonstrate... The southerly offset of the magnetic pole is taken into account in that graphic, for each route.

John B.


Re: Trans-Oceanic DX from Oklahoma

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

--- On Sat, 11/29/08, John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...> wrote:


It appears that we in north central Oklahoma are in an almost perfect
symmetrical situation... where our dawn and dusk transoceanic DX
routes penetrate the average auroral position exactly the same
amount. True, solar pressure would push things farther south, but I
think that it would do so similarly for the two routes. Sooooo......

How come we get wiped out over the Atlantic route and, SOMETIMES can
still hear Asian DX?

Beats the heck outta me!

_______________________

The solar 'pressure' would be equal, however on the TA route, we have the North Magnetic Pole located south of the actual geographical pole. This exaggerates the effect because the starting point for the auroral zone is further south at that point than at any other. As the absorption zone 'rotates' around the magnetic pole as the earth rotates, its effect moves westward, however because of that, the maximum southward extension has already been achieved and as the zone moves westward, it also recedes northware as the distance from the longitude of the magnetic pole becomes greater.

Therefore, given the same level of geomagnetic activity, the most significnt effect is in the Eastern part of North America.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@...>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


SEVEN Awards Conferred on Allen Willie

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

"Congratulations" is a very inadequate word for this situation!  Like most other DXers, Allen had "saved up" his awards and applied for a bunch of them, all at once. Rob Ross and I just completed processing Allen's submission four SEVEN, count'em, S*E*V*E*N awards.  Further, several of those are unprecedented, even in ULR circles and, a year ago, assumed to be totally impossible by folks in the radio hobbies.

We just sent Allen Willie the following:

65 Trans-Atlantic Countries Heard (!!!)
200 Trans-Atlantic Stations Heard (!!!)
300 Stations Heard
400 Stations Heard
25 US States Heard
Latin American DXer
10 Latin American Stations Heard

Allen really ought to get that Sony SRF-M37V bronzed and mounted on a very nice pedestal!

CONGRATULATIONS FROM US ALL, ALLEN!!!

John Bryant
for The Awards Committee

This Award is one of an extensive group of awards certificates available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee. Each recipient receives a digital file which may be used for electronic display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 12" x 11" on good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and the simple application procedures are found in the Ultralight Files area of dxer.ca


Re: Ultralight Anniversary Award for Kevin Schanilec

robert ross
 

At 10:21 PM 11/27/2008, Gary Bebock wrote:

Hello Guys,



     In appreciation of Kevin's outstanding contributions to the Ultralight Radio DX movement, he will now have a new radio to enjoy during this winter DX season--  a new, fully modified E100 Ultralight (Slider loopstick and Murata CFJ455K5 IF filter), designed as the ultimate stand-alone AM-DXing portable for both 9 KHz split DXing, and for domestic DXing.  This fanatical creation will hopefully express the appreciation of all Ultralight Radio DXers for Kevin's generous and innovative efforts, in promoting our exciting new niche hobby.
 
     On behalf of the Ultralight Radio leadership, I take great pleasure in presenting Kevin with this Founders Award, and know that other ULR DXers will join me on this Thanksgiving Day in expressing their gratitude for his many contributions!
 
     73 and Good DX,
 
     Gary DeBock and John Bryant  (for the Ultralight Radio DXing Group)


Kevin...Congratulations on the ULR Founders Award!!! Well Deserved and I'm glad to see you recognized as one of the Shakers and Movers in our Organization. Enjoy the Slider E-100....and I hope you log a Bunch of new Ones with it!! Thanks for all the work you have done to assist ULR DX'ers around the Globe. From the Canadian ULR Contingent....Good Work Kevin!!


73...ROB.


Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
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Trans-Oceanic DX from Oklahoma

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Richard Allen's original question was how come active solar conditions sometimes wipe out TAs from Oklahoma, but we can still hear TPs, 12 hours later at dawn? Russ E. postulated that the routes over the North Atlantic were more likely to be more disturbed because the North magnetic pole is so far South of the planetary pole, and skewed toward the Atlantic rather than the Pacific side of North America. I questioned that, knowing that the routes from Oklahoma to Japan were quite similar to those from the Vancouver, BC area which are clearly affected by active conditions.

Attached are two views merged into one file from a program called Azmap I ran it for the situation about 2 hours before dawn and two hours after sunset. The red line indicates the Great Circle route from north central Oklahoma to central Europe and to the Tokyo area. The auroral rings shown are simply a fixed "average" location.... average geomagnetic conditions and centered over the magnetic poles... not diverted somewhat southward due to solar pressures.

It appears that we in north central Oklahoma are in an almost perfect symmetrical situation... where our dawn and dusk transoceanic DX routes penetrate the average auroral position exactly the same amount. True, solar pressure would push things farther south, but I think that it would do so similarly for the two routes. Sooooo......

How come we get wiped out over the Atlantic route and, SOMETIMES can still hear Asian DX?

Beats the heck outta me!



John B.
Stillwater, OK, USA
Rcvrs: Hotrodded NRD-535, Slider e100's
Antennas: Wellbrook Phased Array


GS Ultralight Loggings, Nov. 28, 2008

Greg Shoom <shoomg@...>
 

Ultralight loggings for Fri. Nov. 28, 2008. All stations logged from Toronto, ON. Dates and times in UTC.

Two more stations added to the ultralight log. Total ultralight count: 206.

1410 WELM NY Elmira - 28-Nov-2008 1223 UTC - Ads. Promo for Elmira Hockey. Ad for Maguire something - sounded like an automotive business. Sports talk. 5 kW day/ 1 kW night. Sangean DT-400W (Poor)
--> New station for the overall log. Elmira Hockey would be the Elmira Jackals, a AA hockey team in the ECHL network. The Maguire thing is probably one of the Maguire family of car dealerships in Ithaca, NY (near Elmira).

1410 WNER NY Watertown - 28-Nov-2008 1238 UTC - Sports talk. ID as "ESPN 1400 The Winner" and as "ESPN 1400 WNER The Winner". Ad for a business (Black River?) located in downtown Watertown. Sangean DT-400W (Poor)
--> Relog, callsign change. Last time I logged this it was still WOTT, which it stopped using many years ago.

Best,
Greg Shoom
VE3LXL


Re: One New XE and UNID

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Kirk,

Using the Topaz site, righthand side, to search 1300 for religious stations, they show two SS religious stations in Texas...  KKUB, Brownfield (SW of Lubbock) at night power of 120w. and KLAR Laredo at 80 watts. night power. Given that you were hearing Nuevo Laredo on 1370 at about the same time, I'd guess that you were hearing KLAR.... but, who knows.  Maybe one or both of them stream on the web an you can nail it that way.

Good luck!

John B.




At 03:37 PM 11/29/2008 +0000, you wrote:

Last night I heard for the second time an UNID sta that has me
intrigued. I've listened to them for a total of at least 2 or more
hours. Details below.

1300, UNID, 0158-0305 UTC, 11/29. Also 0237-0400+, 11/27. The station
sometimes IDs itself as Radio Vida and airs religious pgms in SS.
They mostly play contemporary Christian music in SS. Several mentions
of "musica de Dios." The music is really pleasant to listen to. I've
a feeling this may be a U.S. station, but I'm not at all sure. They
didn't seem to give any call letters and often are playing mx thru
the TOH and BOH. Any ideas out there?

One new XE last night.

1370, XEGNK, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, 0109-0145 UTC, 11/29. Mostly
SS talk was heard. A few songs were hrd. "Radio Mexicana" jingles
noted. I found a site to listen to this sta online, and it was
definitely // to what I hrd online...naturally with about a 10 second
delay in cyber world. Is this cheating? HAHA

Couldn't do any real DXing this morning. The electrical noise here
was the worst I've hrd it in a long time.

73,s
Kirk Allen
Ponca City, OK


One New XE and UNID

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Last night I heard for the second time an UNID sta that has me
intrigued. I've listened to them for a total of at least 2 or more
hours. Details below.

1300, UNID, 0158-0305 UTC, 11/29. Also 0237-0400+, 11/27. The station
sometimes IDs itself as Radio Vida and airs religious pgms in SS.
They mostly play contemporary Christian music in SS. Several mentions
of "musica de Dios." The music is really pleasant to listen to. I've
a feeling this may be a U.S. station, but I'm not at all sure. They
didn't seem to give any call letters and often are playing mx thru
the TOH and BOH. Any ideas out there?

One new XE last night.

1370, XEGNK, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, 0109-0145 UTC, 11/29. Mostly
SS talk was heard. A few songs were hrd. "Radio Mexicana" jingles
noted. I found a site to listen to this sta online, and it was
definitely // to what I hrd online...naturally with about a 10 second
delay in cyber world. Is this cheating? HAHA

Couldn't do any real DXing this morning. The electrical noise here
was the worst I've hrd it in a long time.

73,s
Kirk Allen
Ponca City, OK


Re: Gray Line Propagation

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Gary,

Thank you very much for posting that link. That's handy dandy for
sure!! Somewhere in this unorganized filing cabinet I have that old
world map with overlays for each month showing the same thing as that
website. I think they called it the "DX Edge" if memory serves me
correctly.

Kirk Allen
Ponca City, OK

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:

Richard and Others,

An excellent web site for checking current gray line
propagation is
_http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/greyline.html_
(http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/greyline.html) . It has a map that
refreshes every 5 minutes, and shows where
sunset and sunrise are occurring in the world at any given moment.

Of course, there are only certain times of the year that
these gray
line paths allow great propagation from TP or TA transmitters to
North American
DXers with Ultralight radios. But if you are lucky enough to have
a gray
line path as well as good solar conditions, you can have a
fantastic logging.
One of these occurred for me on August 28th, with a booming signal
from
VOA-1575 in Thailand on a stock DT-400W at Grayland, WA.

73, Gary
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