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John Cereghin <jcereghin@...>
--- In ultralightdx@..., "Alex" <rifleman336@...> wrote: What is concidered local and thus "unimportant" or a pest station, versus a good catch. Is their an air mile limit per a given stations wattage? I ask this for I am doing a daytime radio survey to figure who are the "regular suspects" and what is valid DX. For I caught WJR out of Detroit, Michagan. They're a 50 kW talker, thats 225 Air Miles from my location. And so I kind of hesitate after dicussing it with other members of the club to call it special. Hey Alex, The definition of a "local pest" verses DX is a rather subjective thing. I have 20 local stations (under 100 air miles distant) that I have yet to log on my ultralight radios. The closest of these is a mere 45 miles away, but they run 250 watts on 1520 and the Buffalo station usually spoils any chance I have at them. A 250 watt station at 45 miles or a graveyarder at 100 miles might not seem that impressive, but that's still some mighty good DX when you consider all the factors. But just because it's local doesn't mean it's not DX! In my UL log, I count everything, including my local 5kw talker at 7 miles distant and my closest 50 kw blowtorch (KYW on 1060). That's still DX after a fashion and I count it. Of the 524 stations I've logged, maybe half are high-powered stations that most wouldn't consider DX. My philosophy is if I heard it on a UL, in the log it goes, including local TIS stations, talking houses (I've logged 3 separate ones), blowtorches, the works. I don't really see how any cut-and-dried criteria can be established as to what is considered "good DX". It will vary from DXer to DXer. John Cereghin Smyrna DE
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One Presumed New One This Morning- WSRC-1480
John Cereghin <jcereghin@...>
March has not been a kind month, with only a few good catches on the ULs, but one presumed new one this morning:
1480 WSRC Fair Bluff NC, 0645, presumed with ads for businesses in nearby Fairmont NC, then fade out. Would be UL station #524 if it pans out. Heard on the DT-200VX barefoot, 392 miles.
John Cereghin
Smyrna DE
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John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
Alex N8UCN/KOH8IG wrote:
What is concidered local and
thus "unimportant" or a pest station, versus a good catch. Is
their an air mile limit per a given stations wattage? I ask this for I am
doing a daytime radio survey to figure who are the "regular
suspects" and what is valid DX. For I caught WJR out of Detroit,
Michagan. They're a 50 kW talker, thats 225 Air Miles from my location.
And so I kind of hesitate after dicussing it with other members of the
club to call it special.
So what is the awards committee definitions of elegable Air mile limits
for stations of a given wattage. For it would be fair to log say 700 WLW
in Cincinnati when it only 20+ air miles away. Not even mild hardship for
this 50kw,strong man. But at the same time, I got my hopes up for nothing
for WJR. So whats the limit, to call a station DX from a given DXer's
QTH?
Alex, thanks for that question. It comes up from time to time.
Traditionally, in MW DXing, we just don't worry about "What is DX
and what isn't?" ITS ALL DX! :>) Seriously, with
several hundred stations loggable from any QTH, we have just ignored the
power/distance formulations to define "real DX." Each of
us has at least a large handful of close-in stations that are laughably
easy to log... that's the good part. The bad part is those local stations
often eliminate the chance of receiving any other station on those
frequencies... So, those "easy" stations end up being a
curse.... Hence, someone in MW, long ago, said "Let's just simplify
our lives a bit." and we in Ultralighting have just extended the
tradition, as far as "what is DX" for awards, firsts, etc. It
all counts as DX! However, our Sergeant-at-Arms, Rob Ross, insists
that we can only count a station ONCE, as I just found out. It took me
three tries to get 80 Latins..... he kept finding redundancies that my
aging brain could not see.
Thanks for spreading the word about Ultralighting. Many of us are
having more fun than ought to be legal.
John B.
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Re: "Outboard" BFO for url's?
Thanks Huelbe!
A question about the Ten Tec unit. is it to be hard-wired into the radio or just brought near?
Al
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--- On Mon, 3/30/09, huelbe_garcia@... wrote:
From: huelbe_garcia@...
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] "Outboard" BFO for url's?
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:22 PM
Hi Al! Ten-tec has an Universal BFO:
costs US$11. And here's an Youtube video of it in action:
A couple more links:
If you have a spare SW receiver, tuning it to 455KHz bellow the frequency should generate a beat more or less where you need :) --hg
Al wrote, On 30/03/2009 23:30:
I'd like to copy CW my WRX911. Is anyone aware of plans for something outboard of the radio that could give me a beat-note?
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Alex
I did a small ULR presentation to Cinncinati Monix/AOSC (two all band radio clubs) meeting and one question stumped me.
What is concidered local and thus "unimportant" or a pest station, versus a good catch. Is their an air mile limit per a given stations wattage? I ask this for I am doing a daytime radio survey to figure who are the "regular suspects" and what is valid DX. For I caught WJR out of Detroit, Michagan. They're a 50 kW talker, thats 225 Air Miles from my location. And so I kind of hesitate after dicussing it with other members of the club to call it special.
So what is the awards committee definitions of elegable Air mile limits for stations of a given wattage. For it would be fair to log say 700 WLW in Cincinnati when it only 20+ air miles away. Not even mild hardship for this 50kw,strong man. But at the same time, I got my hopes up for nothing for WJR. So whats the limit, to call a station DX from a given DXer's QTH?
Alex N8UCN/KOH8IG
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GS Ultralight Loggings Mar. 28, 2009
Ultralight loggings for Sat. Mar. 28, 2009. All stations logged from Toronto, ON. Dates and times in UTC.
One more station added to the ultralight log. Total ultralight count is now: 276.
790 CMAQ - Radio Reloj CUBA Pinar del Rio - 28-Mar-2009 0316 UTC - No voice heard, but heard the distictive "RR" Morse code ID of Radio Reloj a few times quite clearly amidst the noise and interference. 30 kW. Sangean DT-400W (Very Poor).
--> New station for the overall log. Heard this while trying, because of all the recent DX tips, to log KFGO, Fargo, ND. No luck getting that one, but at least I still caught a new station because of it.
Best,
Greg Shoom
VE3LXL
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Re: Awards Program Report
Alex
--- In ultralightdx@..., "John H. Bryant" <bjohnorcas@...> wrote: I'm pleased to join the rest of the Awards Committee in recognizing the following truly outstanding Ultralight MW DXing
accomplishments:
Horacio Nigro
Five Countries Heard, Barefoot Class
Long-time DXer, Horatio Nigro of Uruguay is out first South American
DXer to receive an award... given his past achievements, I suspect
that we will be calling his name quite a bit. We were also pleased to
note that Horacio is going to be working to interest other South
American DXers to join the Ultralight Community.
Frank Welch
60 Graveyard Stations heard, Barefoot Class
Frank, long active in amateur radio has gone up the ULR stations
heard ladder rather quickly and is only the second person to reach
the 60 Graveyarders Heard level (Rob Ross did it in the Unlimited
Class.) Congratulations, Frank on being the first of us to
accomplish this difficult DX achievement, BAREFOOT!
Richard Allen
600 Stations Heard, Barefoot Class
Although Rob Ross is the only other ULR DXer to reach the 600 Station
level, Rob switched to Unlimited Class at about station 501, so
Richard stands atop the heap of Barefoot Class DXers, now being well
beyond 600. Richard accomplished this in something like 11.5 months
of DXing. BRAVO!!!
Chris Knight
4 Canadian Provinces Heard, Barefoot Class
5 Latin Stations Heard, Barefoot Class
10 US States Heard, Barefoot Class
20 US States Heard, Barefoot Class
Well known MWaver Chris Knight of suburban Denver is just getting
started in Ultralighting, but has already garnered some outstanding
DX. Chris, we are really glad to have you aboard and let us know as
you reach goals! Loggings are welcome, too.
Kirk Allen
10 ULR Countries Heard, Unlimited Class
70 Latin Stations Heard, Unlimited Class
500 Stations Heard, Unlimited Class
Master Ultralight DXer, Unlimited Class
Kirk has been laboring mightily to reach all three of these goals and
I really don't know which one is the most difficult. I never thought
that anyone would hear ten countries from northern Oklahoma, but I
also did not think anyone would accomplish either of the other two. I
know that Kirk feels like many of us.... its great to start over with
a clean log book.... but now Kirk, the log book is no longer empty
and things get REALLY difficult! Great going, podner and all of us
forgot about the Master DXer award coming at 500 stations, too!
Dianne Froude
Trans-Atlantic DXer, Barefoot Class
4 Continents Heard, Barefoot Class
20 Countries Heard, Barefoot Class
100 Stations Heard, Barefoot Class
As many of you know, Dianne is (we think) our first female Ultralight
DXer and is also relatively new to MW DXing itself. She is obviously
learning quickly to take advantage of her location in St. John's
Newfoundland. The awards above certainly attest to her fitting into
this hobby in a big hurry. Soon after Dianne joined the ultralightdx
group, Richard Allen spotted a wonderful magazine cover (Radio News,
June 1923) that seemed very appropriate for a special award for any
female DXers. Yesterday, Dianne received the four standard awards,
featuring the beautiful Eggers painting of the God of Radio and she
also received a special version of the Trans-Atlantic Award with the
alternate graphic, featuring a lady DXer from the early 20s. A
reduced, very low resolution of that award is inserted below.
John Bryant,
for the Awards Committee
I'd like also congratulate all the above members awarded for there excellent achivements. I am just starting into the realm of ULR aspect of AM DX and seeing your achivements inspire me and and other to strive to be as accomplished as your are today. Again congratulations to all this months awardees. ALEX N8UCN/KOH8IG
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"Outboard" BFO for url's?
I'd like to copy CW my WRX911. Is anyone aware of plans for something outboard of the radio that could give me a beat-note?
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Horacio Nigro <hanigrodx@...>
Ascencion Is. could be possible also on 1602 but only eliminating the strong pest on 1600 from Radio Mil, Pando. I have hrd and QSLed them only with Beverage and another R-600, 260 km to the east of Montevideo, near the Brazilian frontier with Uruguay, back in the 80s. Another Uruguayan DXer, Daniel Muñoz Faccioli (now retired from the active hobby), got it in Montevideo when the 1600 R. Continental (now R. Mil) shut down due to technical problems past midnight in that time.
I thank all the comments, and specially the credits given to my honesty, since I cannot bear a proof of reception. But as some people said... it is demonstrated that it's possible, and we know now at what time it is possible. Only a ironical comment from a Brazilian guy, Rocco Cotroneo, commented this as an April Fool's day. I'm not in that game, as I've never been.
My only fault, is to have an "informal" listening post... a serious DXer should have had his recorders ready. Honestly I can't imagine of AFAN Antarctica coming here, but who says...
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El lun, 30/3/09, Robert S.Ross VA3SW escribió:
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De: Robert S.Ross VA3SW
Asunto: Re: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Para: ultralightdx@...
Fecha: lunes, 30 marzo, 2009 9:10
Horacio Nigro wrote:
>
>
> Wow... what a night!!!!
>
> St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
>
> __._,_.
Horatio..... ....First the Falklands on a ULR...and now St.Helena on a
ULR!!! You're making me DROOL!!! If you Log AFAN in Antarctica on a ULR
.......that' s it....I'm moving to URUGUAY!!
Great job Horatio..... ...keep up the Amazing Loggings from Uruguay!!
73...ROB.
Robert S. Ross VA3SW
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
robert ross
Horacio Nigro wrote:
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
__._,_.
Horatio.........First the Falklands on a ULR...and now St.Helena on a ULR!!! You're making me DROOL!!! If you Log AFAN in Antarctica on a ULR .......that's it....I'm moving to URUGUAY!! Great job Horatio........keep up the Amazing Loggings from Uruguay!! 73...ROB. Robert S. Ross VA3SW
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Re: JOHN BRYANT Earns ULR AWARD for 80 LATINS HEARD!!!
franktowntrain <jleonard@...>
Yes John, I agree totally with that, I've just recorded my 112th station using URL's some with a Terk loop and more recently a crate loop and they are all from the eastern half of NA and I have no idea how I'm going to get to even three or four hundred heard. Although I just started in mid Feb. I seem to be getting the same familiar stations all the time now with few new ones.
Jack Leonard
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--- In ultralightdx@..., "John Plimmer" <plimmer@...> wrote:
I salute John B. and indeed, all the award winners that are being recognised
in the ULR group.
Now that I have been going at this for some months, I am acutely aware how
difficult, nay, seemingly impossible some of the awards achieved are.
Whether it be getting 80 Latins or 500 or six hundred catches, it is a
monumental achievement.
Some things help like your location and/or the equipment you are using, but
notwithstanding that, these awards are still a very great achievement and
are a tribute to the dedication, application and skill of those who reach
these difficult heights.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE AWARD WINNERS
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
ERGO software
Drake SW8. Sangean 803A
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop.
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Miller" <radiodxer2000@...>
To: <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] JOHN BRYANT Earns ULR AWARD for 80 LATINS
HEARD!!!
THAT IS TRULY OUTSTANDING! WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE?
CONGRATULATIONS JOHN
73 DE JOE
--- On Sat, 3/28/09, Robert S.Ross VA3SW <va3sw@...> wrote:
From: Robert S.Ross VA3SW <va3sw@...>
Subject: [ultralightdx] JOHN BRYANT Earns ULR AWARD for 80 LATINS
HEARD!!!
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 9:59 PM
Hi Folks:
Just a quick message to let everyone know that JOHN
BRYANT of
Stillwater, Oklahoma has just earned his ULR AWARD for 80
LATINS heard
on a ULR RADIO of the Unlimited Class!!
John is the First DXer to earn the 80 Latins Heard
Award...either
Barefoot or Unlimited!!
Please join me in a hearty "OLE....CHA CHA CHA!!" for John
and this
amazing feat accomplished with a Pocket Radio and 2
Penlight Batteries!!
John is a little shy....so that's why I am posting this
announcement!!
HAHAHA...
Congratulations John.....
Regards...ROB
Robert S. Ross VA3SW
(For the ULR Awards Committee)
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Horacio Nigro <hanigrodx@...>
Certainly the E-100 is a great piece of equipment... just to add, after a week of use, and the first pair of alkalines exhausted, that I would say it works better far from locals... at a rural listening site... or better near the seashore... but far from pests. The MW dial here has local stations scattered every 40 KHz... every one giving local signals. Several are real pests, with overmodulated carriers that span 30 KHz to each side of the nominal fq.
In this week I have preferred to perform reception with the ferrite maximum gain beaming to the north, overriding Argentinians. The number of Brazilians (at my north) is very interesting, but at this point I'm not taking care to log them...
The better nulling SRF-59 bears has prooved very useful in this panorama of stns.
BTW, the postal package to you with my second set seems to be
delayed... Hope you get it soon!
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El lun, 30/3/09, D1028Gary@... escribió:
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De: D1028Gary@...
Asunto: Re: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Para: ultralightdx@...
Fecha: lunes, 30 marzo, 2009 1:17
Hello Horacio,
Congratulations on logging St. Helena with your E100- truly an amazing
accomplishment. We are all happy for your success, and can understand the
special thrill of receiving rare DX with a stock Ultralight radio!
Only two months ago, the same thing happened for many Ultralight DXers here
on the west coast of North America, as Croatia-1134 was received on simple
Ultralight radios during a very rare TA opening.
Good luck on more DX success with your hot E100, and you will certainly
have more chances for nice MP3's of St. Helena (and even more exotic DX!).
73, Gary DeBock
In a message dated 3/30/2009 4:11:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
hanigrodx@yahoo. es writes:
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
I
got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton E-100,
sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more summertime
than Fall...
URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play
soccer and mentioning "Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de
Artigas" (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 29).
The remaining Departments (Uruguay
Geographical divisions total 19) that remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera,
Flores, and Salto.
--
At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was
preparing to do the same, my listening post is at my bedside. I started to
search with my Kenwood R-600 and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from
Santiago, Chile. Good! Also checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new
Chilean added to the ULR log.
I continued and stopped at a carrier on
1548. Great!!!, this is the first time I get a offset European frequency
signal in Montevideo.
In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the
WRTH 2009... looked at the most powered station in the listing, there appears:
R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300 kW and Grigoropol 500 kW...
Signal was enough
strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325 I checked on the E-100 and
it was there too. But signal was fair and faded out for 5 minutes. On the
E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian station.... on the R600 the
carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow filter on this last receiver.
Suddenly a short tune melody was heard
and I thought... this sound is
familiar: it certainly was the ID musical signature for R. St. Helena, the one
we usually heard every year at their annual St. Helena Day!!!.
The
audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier detectable,
while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550 channel.
At 0400 the
signal faded-out.
While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried
-in the dark- to connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do
earlier, a mix of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the
flashbulb the logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get
the significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the
recorder to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not
bear a recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further
keep trying on this offset frequency in the future...
R. St. Helena on
MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the capital city...and also
on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!! ! Incredibly possible.
Recap
log:
ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and
English talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1
balun + ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena
well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton
E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID
Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353, with
apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30)
Horacio
Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
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Re: Another Uruguay Department heard with ULR
Horacio Nigro <hanigrodx@...>
That would be nice... I am trying to figure the graphic? a gaucho listening to the radio?
Anyways if three Departments to go is a small number maybe the task can be huge, if not impossible, at least from the capital city or from one fixed listening post. Anyways, we will be in position to say: we tried for it!
I also encourage to other URL Dxers to set up goals of this sort... It keeps the flame burning on
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El dom, 29/3/09, Robert S.Ross VA3SW escribió:
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De: Robert S.Ross VA3SW
Asunto: Re: [ultralightdx] Another Uruguay Department heard with ULR
Para: ultralightdx@...
Fecha: domingo, 29 marzo, 2009 10:35
John H. Bryant wrote:
Horacio,
If you get all 19 departments, I think that the awards committee might
just be able to create a special Curuya Oriental award for
you. Your discussion of that award was very interesting and I've
got just the graphic. I feel sure that Rob and Gary would support
this award.... In fact, we could probably extend it to any other DXer
who
made the same 100% logging with an Ultralight.
Horatio..... ........I had just sent John and Gary an email about
instituting a Special Award for You if you get all the Departments of
Uruguay Logged with an ULR!!! And mentioned that maybe we could do the
same for other Countries Departments or States or Districts as well!!
It appears John and I are connected at the Head!!! I'm not really sure
if that is a Good thing or not....but the good part of it is....If
anyone can log all the Districts in a specific country outside
Canada/USA.. .I'm sure we will come up with a special award for it!!
Just give us a little time to sort it all out and discuss it amongst
the ranks!!
Horatio....Your DXing Prowess with your ULR has just invented some more
work for John and I...work that we apparently are quite HAPPY to do!!!
The ULR Monster just continues to GROW!! HAHHAHHAHA!! !
Congratulations Horatio on the 15/19 Departments heard already!!
Regards...ROB.
Robert S. Ross VA3SW
(For the ULR Awards Committee)
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
John Plimmer <plimmer@...>
Well Horatio enjoy your MAGIC MOMENT as they are rare, and well said that
it is these rare opportunities that pop up that keep us at the dials for
life.
My first hearing of St. Helena was whilst on holiday at a mountain resort
near the inland town of Citrusdal and not far from the see. I was listening to
BBC WS NX at 1800z and wondering where it was coming from, then the news ended
and the magic started as the St. Helena jingle came through followed by a lot of
local news about the arrival of the ship RMS St Helena at the island. In those
days, about 1985, I didn't own a tape recorder, so laboriously and furiously
wrote down all the details I could. I wrote off to them and got nothing, so
wrote again - eventually a year later I got a QSL card and nice letter. They
said that it was very rare for them to send out a QSL card.
So keep trying and maybe it will come again and next time you can get
enough detail for a QSL.
73's and good listening
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:23
PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: St.
Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Thanks John, you are at this moment one of the guys I was
expecting of a comment.
By now, I feel a sort of bitter
hang-over... it was a short but incredible moment, those that DXing
fortunately gives time to time and keep us connected with the hobby for
the entire life. But I have no no recording to show as proof and it's a
pity.
St. Helena and me were alone in a hot romantic affair last
night, and it was indeed a pretty young lady.
But there's no
"photo" to show just the memory. :(
Checked the mp3 this
morning and there's no recording for St. Helena... just the 1550
Brazilian and one "AM 15-50" ID in Spanish surely from Argentina, (this
latter was not hrd on the R-600)
I am sure I will be every night
sticked at 1458 from now on. I hope it wasn't a propagational extreme
coincidence and will have another chance. Very recent reports from
Brazilian SWers in the "Radioescutas" YG tell that at that moment all
bands were closed, only local Tropical banders were present, not even a
single one on 25m or 31m. They report a similar situation didn't take
place since last July.
And will be better prepared next time.
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El lun,
30/3/09, John Plimmer
escribió:
De:
John Plimmer
Asunto: [ultralightdx]
Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Para:
ultralightdx@...
Fecha: lunes, 30 marzo, 2009
9:59
Magic Horatio -> congratulations and well done.
It's a very
difficult catch indeed here in South Africa and just coming back
from our Seefontein DX site London was dominating that
session.
It has been QSL'd here, but rarely
appears.
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South
Africa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Horacio Nigro"
<hanigrodx@yahoo.
es>
To: "Ultralight Radio DX" <ultralightdx@
yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:10
PM
Subject: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also
on ULR
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on
MW!!!
I got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR
with my Eton E-100,
sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening
that resembled more summertime
than Fall...
URUGUAY. 1180
LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play soccer and mentioning
"Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de Artigas"
(Nigro,
Uruguay, Mar 29).
The remaining Departments
(Uruguay Geographical divisions total 19) that
remain to be heard
with ULR are: Rivera, Flores, and Salto.
--
At 0330, my
wife was already at bed, I was preparing to do the same, my
listening post is at my bedside. I started to search with my
Kenwood R-600
and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from Santiago,
Chile. Good! Also
checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new
Chilean added to the ULR log.
I continued and stopped at a
carrier on 1548. Great!!!, this is the first
time I get a offset
European frequency signal in Montevideo.
In the dark and with
my flashbulb I opened the WRTH 2009... looked at the
most powered
station in the listing, there appears: R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300
kW
and Grigoropol 500 kW...
Signal was enough strong to get a
woman with talks in English at 0325 I
checked on the E-100 and it
was there too. But signal was fair and faded out
for 5 minutes. On
the E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian
station.... on
the R600 the carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow
filter on this last receiver. Suddenly a short tune melody was
heard
and I thought... this sound is familiar: it certainly was the
ID musical
signature for R. St. Helena, the one we usually heard
every year at their
annual St. Helena Day!!!.
The audio
degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier
detectable, while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550
channel.
At 0400 the signal faded-out.
While I was in this
special thrilling moment I tried -in the dark- to
connect my mp3
to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do earlier, a mix
of
cables from different earphones, line in/out... the flashbulb the
logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get
the
significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug
the recorder
to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So
I regret to not bear a
recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But
this forces me to further keep
trying on this offset frequency in
the future...
R. St. Helena on MW and without Beverage in a
suburban quarter in the
capital city...and also on an UL!?? Yes
it's possible!!!! ! Incredibly
possible.
Recap
log:
ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325.
Carrier and English
talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood
R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1 balun
+ ferrite balun in series).
Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena
well known ID musical
signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton
E-100
getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID
Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at
0353, with
apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar
30)
Horacio
Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
Great catch, Horacio. Somehow, I often think that the
unrecorded ones are truly the sweetest....
John B.
At 01:23 PM 3/30/2009 +0000, you wrote:
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Thanks John, you are at this
moment one of the guys I was expecting of a comment.
By now, I feel a sort of bitter hang-over... it was a short but
incredible moment, those that DXing fortunately gives time to time and
keep us connected with the hobby for the entire life. But I have no no
recording to show as proof and it's a pity.
St. Helena and me were alone in a hot romantic affair last night, and it
was indeed a pretty young lady.
But there's no "photo" to show just the memory. :(
Checked the mp3 this morning and there's no recording for St.
Helena... just the 1550 Brazilian and one "AM 15-50" ID in
Spanish surely from Argentina, (this latter was not hrd on the
R-600)
I am sure I will be every night sticked at 1458 from now on. I hope it
wasn't a propagational extreme coincidence and will have another chance.
Very recent reports from Brazilian SWers in the "Radioescutas"
YG tell that at that moment all bands were closed, only local Tropical
banders were present, not even a single one on 25m or 31m. They report a
similar situation didn't take place since last July.
And will be better prepared next time.
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El lun, 30/3/09, John Plimmer
<plimmer@...> escribió:
- De: John Plimmer
- Asunto: [ultralightdx] Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on
ULR
- Para: ultralightdx@...
- Fecha: lunes, 30 marzo, 2009 9:59
- Magic Horatio -> congratulations and well done.
- It's a very difficult catch indeed here in South Africa and just
coming back
- from our Seefontein DX site London was dominating that
session.
- It has been QSL'd here, but rarely appears.
- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: "Horacio Nigro"
<hanigrodx@yahoo.
es>
- To: "Ultralight Radio DX"
<ultralightdx@
yahoogroups. com>
- Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:10 PM
- Subject: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on
ULR
- Wow... what a night!!!!
- St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
- I got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton
E-100,
- sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more
summertime
- than Fall...
- URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play soccer and
mentioning
- "Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de
Artigas" (Nigro,
- Uruguay, Mar 29).
- The remaining Departments (Uruguay Geographical divisions total 19)
that
- remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera, Flores, and Salto.
- --
- At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was preparing to do the same,
my
- listening post is at my bedside. I started to search with my Kenwood
R-600
- and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from Santiago, Chile. Good!
Also
- checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new Chilean added to the ULR
log.
- I continued and stopped at a carrier on 1548. Great!!!, this is the
first
- time I get a offset European frequency signal in Montevideo.
- In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the WRTH 2009... looked at
the
- most powered station in the listing, there appears: R. Sawa Kuwait
600/300
- kW and Grigoropol 500 kW...
- Signal was enough strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325
I
- checked on the E-100 and it was there too. But signal was fair and
faded out
- for 5 minutes. On the E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian
- station.... on the R600 the carrier was more evident due to the nice
narrow
- filter on this last receiver. Suddenly a short tune melody was
heard
- and I thought... this sound is familiar: it certainly was the ID
musical
- signature for R. St. Helena, the one we usually heard every year at
their
- annual St. Helena Day!!!.
- The audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier
- detectable, while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550
channel.
- At 0400 the signal faded-out.
- While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried -in the dark- to
- connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do earlier,
a mix
- of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the flashbulb the
- logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get the
- significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the
recorder
- to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not
bear a
- recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further
keep
- trying on this offset frequency in the future...
- R. St. Helena on MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the
- capital city...and also on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!! !
Incredibly
- possible.
- Recap log:
- ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and
English
- talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire,
9:1 balun
- + ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St.
Helena
- well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with
UL Eton
- E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from
1550 UNID
- Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353,
with
- apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30)
- Horacio Nigro
- Montevideo
- Uruguay
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Horacio Nigro <hanigrodx@...>
Thanks John, you are at this moment one of the guys I was expecting of a comment.
By now, I feel a sort of bitter hang-over... it was a short but incredible moment, those that DXing fortunately gives time to time and keep us connected with the hobby for the entire life. But I have no no recording to show as proof and it's a pity.
St. Helena and me were alone in a hot romantic affair last night, and it was indeed a pretty young lady.
But there's no "photo" to show just the memory. :(
Checked the mp3 this morning and there's no recording for St. Helena... just the 1550 Brazilian and one "AM 15-50" ID in Spanish surely from Argentina, (this latter was not hrd on the R-600)
I am sure I will be every night sticked at 1458 from now on. I hope it wasn't a propagational extreme coincidence and will have another chance. Very
recent reports from Brazilian SWers in the "Radioescutas" YG tell that at that moment all bands were closed, only local Tropical banders were present, not even a single one on 25m or 31m. They report a similar situation didn't take place since last July.
And will be better prepared next time.
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
--- El lun, 30/3/09, John Plimmer escribió:
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De: John Plimmer Asunto: [ultralightdx] Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Para: ultralightdx@...
Fecha: lunes, 30 marzo, 2009 9:59
Magic Horatio -> congratulations and well done.
It's a very difficult catch indeed here in South Africa and just coming back
from our Seefontein DX site London was dominating that session.
It has been QSL'd here, but rarely appears.
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Horacio Nigro" <hanigrodx@yahoo. es>
To: "Ultralight Radio DX" <ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:10 PM
Subject: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
I got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton E-100,
sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more summertime
than Fall...
URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play soccer and mentioning
"Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de Artigas" (Nigro,
Uruguay, Mar 29).
The remaining Departments (Uruguay Geographical divisions total 19) that
remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera, Flores, and Salto.
--
At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was preparing to do the same, my
listening post is at my bedside. I started to search with my Kenwood R-600
and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from Santiago, Chile. Good! Also
checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new Chilean added to the ULR log.
I continued and stopped at a carrier on 1548. Great!!!, this is the first
time I get a offset European frequency signal in Montevideo.
In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the WRTH 2009... looked at the
most powered station in the listing, there appears: R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300
kW and Grigoropol 500 kW...
Signal was enough strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325 I
checked on the E-100 and it was there too. But signal was fair and faded out
for 5 minutes. On the E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian
station.... on the R600 the carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow
filter on this last receiver. Suddenly a short tune melody was heard
and I thought... this sound is familiar: it certainly was the ID musical
signature for R. St. Helena, the one we usually heard every year at their
annual St. Helena Day!!!.
The audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier
detectable, while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550 channel.
At 0400 the signal faded-out.
While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried -in the dark- to
connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do earlier, a mix
of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the flashbulb the
logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get the
significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the recorder
to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not bear a
recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further keep
trying on this offset frequency in the future...
R. St. Helena on MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the
capital city...and also on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!! ! Incredibly
possible.
Recap log:
ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and English
talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1 balun
+ ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena
well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton
E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID
Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353, with
apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30)
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
John Plimmer <plimmer@...>
Magic Horatio -> congratulations and well done.
It's a very difficult catch indeed here in South Africa and just coming back from our Seefontein DX site London was dominating that session.
It has been QSL'd here, but rarely appears.
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message ----- From: "Horacio Nigro" <hanigrodx@...> To: "Ultralight Radio DX" <ultralightdx@...> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: [ultralightdx] St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR Wow... what a night!!!! St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! I got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton E-100, sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more summertime than Fall... URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play soccer and mentioning "Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de Artigas" (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 29). The remaining Departments (Uruguay Geographical divisions total 19) that remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera, Flores, and Salto. -- At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was preparing to do the same, my listening post is at my bedside. I started to search with my Kenwood R-600 and first got CB118 Radio Corporacin from Santiago, Chile. Good! Also checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new Chilean added to the ULR log. I continued and stopped at a carrier on 1548. Great!!!, this is the first time I get a offset European frequency signal in Montevideo. In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the WRTH 2009... looked at the most powered station in the listing, there appears: R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300 kW and Grigoropol 500 kW... Signal was enough strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325 I checked on the E-100 and it was there too. But signal was fair and faded out for 5 minutes. On the E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian station.... on the R600 the carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow filter on this last receiver. Suddenly a short tune melody was heard and I thought... this sound is familiar: it certainly was the ID musical signature for R. St. Helena, the one we usually heard every year at their annual St. Helena Day!!!. The audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier detectable, while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550 channel. At 0400 the signal faded-out. While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried -in the dark- to connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do earlier, a mix of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the flashbulb the logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get the significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the recorder to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not bear a recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further keep trying on this offset frequency in the future... R. St. Helena on MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the capital city...and also on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!!! Incredibly possible. Recap log: ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and English talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1 balun + ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353, with apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30) Horacio Nigro Montevideo Uruguay
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Re: St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Gary DeBock
Hello Horacio,
Congratulations on logging St. Helena with your E100- truly an amazing
accomplishment. We are all happy for your success, and can understand the
special thrill of receiving rare DX with a stock Ultralight radio!
Only two months ago, the same thing happened for many Ultralight DXers here
on the west coast of North America, as Croatia-1134 was received on simple
Ultralight radios during a very rare TA opening.
Good luck on more DX success with your hot E100, and you will certainly
have more chances for nice MP3's of St. Helena (and even more exotic DX!).
73, Gary DeBock
In a message dated 3/30/2009 4:11:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
hanigrodx@... writes:
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
I
got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton E-100,
sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more summertime
than Fall...
URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play
soccer and mentioning "Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de
Artigas" (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 29).
The remaining Departments (Uruguay
Geographical divisions total 19) that remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera,
Flores, and Salto.
--
At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was
preparing to do the same, my listening post is at my bedside. I started to
search with my Kenwood R-600 and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from
Santiago, Chile. Good! Also checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new
Chilean added to the ULR log.
I continued and stopped at a carrier on
1548. Great!!!, this is the first time I get a offset European frequency
signal in Montevideo.
In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the
WRTH 2009... looked at the most powered station in the listing, there appears:
R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300 kW and Grigoropol 500 kW...
Signal was enough
strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325 I checked on the E-100 and
it was there too. But signal was fair and faded out for 5 minutes. On the
E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian station.... on the R600 the
carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow filter on this last receiver.
Suddenly a short tune melody was heard
and I thought... this sound is
familiar: it certainly was the ID musical signature for R. St. Helena, the one
we usually heard every year at their annual St. Helena Day!!!.
The
audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier detectable,
while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550 channel.
At 0400 the
signal faded-out.
While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried
-in the dark- to connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do
earlier, a mix of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the
flashbulb the logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get
the significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the
recorder to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not
bear a recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further
keep trying on this offset frequency in the future...
R. St. Helena on
MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the capital city...and also
on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!!! Incredibly possible.
Recap
log:
ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and
English talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1
balun + ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena
well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton
E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID
Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353, with
apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30)
Horacio
Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
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St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!! and also on ULR
Horacio Nigro <hanigrodx@...>
Wow... what a night!!!!
St. Helena Is. logged on MW!!!
I got very happy when I heard my 16th Department on ULR with my Eton E-100, sitting on my backyard on a warm late evening that resembled more summertime than Fall...
URUGUAY. 1180 LV de Artigas, 0113, with play by play soccer and mentioning "Oribe (street name)... para todo el Departamento de Artigas" (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 29).
The remaining Departments (Uruguay Geographical divisions total 19) that remain to be heard with ULR are: Rivera, Flores, and Salto.
--
At 0330, my wife was already at bed, I was preparing to do the same, my listening post is at my bedside. I started to search with my Kenwood R-600 and first got CB118 Radio Corporación from Santiago, Chile. Good! Also checked with the E-100 and positive!. A new Chilean added to the ULR log.
I continued and stopped at a carrier on 1548. Great!!!, this is the first time I get a offset European frequency signal in Montevideo.
In the dark and with my flashbulb I opened the WRTH 2009... looked at the most powered station in the listing, there appears: R. Sawa Kuwait 600/300 kW and Grigoropol 500 kW...
Signal was enough strong to get a woman with talks in English at 0325 I checked on the E-100 and it was there too. But signal was fair and faded out for 5 minutes. On the E-100 it was evident more QRM from a Brazilian station.... on the R600 the carrier was more evident due to the nice narrow filter on this last receiver. Suddenly a short tune melody was heard
and I thought... this sound is familiar: it certainly was the ID musical signature for R. St. Helena, the one we usually heard every year at their annual St. Helena Day!!!.
The audio degraded for several minutes, but there was still a carrier detectable, while on E-100 there was more activity from the 1550 channel.
At 0400 the signal faded-out.
While I was in this special thrilling moment I tried -in the dark- to connect my mp3 to the E-100, something I didn't expect to do earlier, a mix of cables from different earphones, line in/out... the flashbulb the logbook, trying to keep the WRTH open... it was too late to get the significative part and it wasn't recorded. I still cannot plug the recorder to the R600 since it has no line out audio level. So I regret to not bear a recorded proof of this St. Helena log. But this forces me to further keep trying on this offset frequency in the future...
R. St. Helena on MW and without Beverage in a suburban quarter in the capital city...and also on an UL!?? Yes it's possible!!!!! Incredibly possible.
Recap log:
ST. HELENA 1548 R. St. Helena (p), Jamestown, 0325. Carrier and English talks by woman, detected with my Kenwood R-600, (+15 m randomwire, 9:1 balun + ferrite balun in series). Faded out till 0335 when back. R. St. Helena well known ID musical signature strikes my ears!!. Also checked with UL Eton E-100 getting the signal. In the interim, the UL had more QRM from 1550 UNID Brazilian. Degraded and faded out at 0400 with a short peak at 0353, with apparent choir music. (Nigro, Uruguay, Mar 30)
Horacio Nigro
Montevideo
Uruguay
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Re: The Tecsun R-202T - In The End, A Turkey
Guy Atkins
Hi Kevin,
That's great that you determined the filter is 455 khz IF.!
As much as I'd love to dig into one of these models with a filter swap, I have too many unfinished projects already. I had better wait until I do my planned mods to the SW-Pocket Radio I have here. I have some high grade, 11-pole Murata filters I'm wanting to put inside of the SWP. My first attempt will be to cascade two of the Muratas in series with coupling capacitors in between. If the attenuation of the pair isn't too bad this should make for some amazing selectivity. Otherwise, if there are problems I'll just stay with a single Murata filter.
Maybe Steve R. will be the first to filter-mod one of the inexpensive Tecsuns...?
73,
Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com
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--- In ultralightdx@..., satya@... wrote:
Hey Guy:
The images are 910 khz down from locals, so definitely a 455 khz IF. I
was thinking that the dirt-cheap filters used in the Sangean DT-400W
filter mod, which come in both 450 and 455 varieties, and which are also
use in the Sony M37V, might be candidates. See for example eBay item
number 973154703. The "H" version is plus or minus 3 khz, which ain't
bad.
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/LTM450HW-datasheet.html
One part I was able to see in the R202T was a metallic "box" that looked a
lot like the housing for Murata and Icom filters that was labelled
"YD-202" as far as I could tell.
If you want to give it a shot, I'll send it your way! If you get it apart
and can tell what sort of filter it would take I could get it ordered; if
it's the same as the 911 would take, a bunch could be ordered (they're all
of $1.72 apiece!)
Kevin
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