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Re: Three New Ones

Tony Germanotta
 

That's coal country out there, they start stoking it early.....


On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:14 PM, jim_kr1s wrote:

 


--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, Jim wrote:
>
> 1410 WHLN Harlan KY. .... A bit early for daytime power.

The heat exchanger's probably part of a distillery! :)

73,

Jim, KR1S



Re: Three New Ones

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 

--- In ultralightdx@..., Jim <va3jno@...> wrote:

1410 WHLN Harlan KY. .... A bit early for daytime power.
The heat exchanger's probably part of a distillery! :)

73,

Jim, KR1S


Three New Ones

Jim <va3jno@...>
 

Radio Used......................................barefoot Sony SRF-59
Total ULR Loggings (Port Dover).................304

1410 WHLN Harlan KY. "Your Hometown Station WHLN" at 0600 EST Mar 1, then into news with a couple of national items then local news mentioning northern Kentucky. "WHLN" twice at 0606, and into the song "You're Not The One For Me". Poor. 5kW/41W. A bit early for daytime power.

1440 WNPV Lansdale PA. Sports report with mention of the Olympics gold medal hockey game and the Philadelphia Flyers that participated in the Olympics. "wnpv1440.com" at 0625 and "AM 14-40 WNPV" at 0629 EST Mar 1. Very poor. 2500W/500W.

1390 WLCM Holt MI. Pastor Adrian Rogers with a long teaching about not being able to control the consequences of one's actions. Weather forecast and then current temperature in Lansing at 0727 EST Mar 1. One Moment in America, followed by Southwest Radio Ministries with Brother Hutchings at 0730. No ID, but WLCM website says station is in Lansing,and this is the only Michigan station listed on 1390. Varied from good to gone. 970W/4500W.

Jim Orcheson
Port Dover, Ontario


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

John
 

--- In ultralightdx@..., "jim_kr1s" <jkearman@...> wrote:

Okay, the ICD-PX720 can't be connected to a PC? That explains the price
difference. You see, if you could download recordings to an editing
program, you could crank up the volume, and expedite the appearance of a
process server. :)

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ <http://qrp.kearman.com/>

Jim, in my first post I mentioned the USB cable and software (CD) that came with it. I guess they are still here - definitely safe wherever I 'stored' them! It does a fine job as a little stand alone recorder. Yeah, playing my wife's snores back at any louder level might cause seismic problems, too. While pure tones can cause resonance problems in crystal glass, I'm betting some singing/screeches/QRM could melt plexiglass!

Back on topic - in my best approximation, the Sony, less cable/earphones, is ~2.1 CI - would that be subtracted from the ULR's 100 CI maximum? Yeah, they are teeny!

John

PS She really sings like a bird... ever hear a crow screech?


Daytime only stations

wa8lcz
 

The following stations broadcast daytime only, you may have missed putting these stations into your log

0690 wnzk dearborn mi 2500 0
0710 wfnr blacksburg va 10k 0
0810 wpin dublin va 4200 0
0830 kotc bennett mo 10k 0
1180 wxla dimondale mi 10k 0
1210 wjnl kingsley mi 50k 0
1410 wlsh lansford pa 5k 0
1430 wdic clinchco va 5k 0
1560 wnwn portage mi 4100 0

do you have any to add to this list ?

byron wa8lcz nr Detroit MI


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 

Okay, the ICD-PX720  can't be connected to a PC? That explains the price difference. You see, if you could download recordings to an editing program, you could crank up the volume, and expedite the appearance of a process server. :)

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ 


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

John
 

--- In ultralightdx@..., "jim_kr1s" <jkearman@...> wrote:


--- In ultralightdx@..., "jrtow3rd@" <JRTOW3RD@>
wrote:


I elected to go the digital voice recorder route - and settled on the
Sony ICD PX720, a 2 x AAA 1GB USB-capable recorder, capable of 288 hr of
recording - but you'll need lots of additional cells.

I looked at these, but the MP3-capable recorders aren't much more
expensive, and the convenience is worth the cost. No conversion s/w
needed. The ICD-series Sonys use a single AAA cell.

Actually, as I said, the ICD-PX720 uses two AAA cells, yielding from 13 hr on speaker playback to 30-32 hr playback on phones or recording. Additionally, all recording times are tabulated in monaural operation in the owner's manual, which appears to be all this model may be capable of. As to editing, it has file manipulation - over recording - multiple playback - even voice-operated recording capabilities as-is, ie, no USB connection needed. It's also a nice basic recorder - and is 'in the noise' even on record until you put it inside a RS AM Loop tuning for a dead spot 1500-1700 kHz on my R30A, not even budging the S meter until I held it against the coil wires. This may have been body capacitance unbalancing the loop and feeding computer hash, too. I cannot speak to it's Sony software, as I haven't used it yet. As stated, it fits my needs as-is. The disposable batteries are more my style - name brand 12-packs of AAA alkalines having been <$3/12 at Christmas locally - and the 'depenability' of fresh primaries trumping questionable secondaries. Oddly, the original cells still show a 'full' battery - and I've used it a bunch.

While it is great for playing back IDs, etc, there are two uses I have experimentally found to be poor choices for this recorder - or likely any recorder:

1. To prove to your wife that her snores would 'wake the dead'.
2. To prove to your wife that she really can't sing.

Experimentally proving those poor uses has likely been causal in my delay in buying a ULR.


John


South Florida loggings

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 

Last night and this morning's loggings from South Florida with PL-380/mod internal antenna. Times in UTC.


28 February
2247Z     890    WBAJ    Blythewood    SC    Preaching, under CMBC, off ID 2300Z
2255Z    1190    WAMT    Orlando       FL    SS live sports, ID -- Florida #129
2300Z    1190    CMDL    Matanzas      Cuba  R26. excited M talking

01 March
0025Z    1470    WRGA    Rome          GA    ID 0028Z "80 years and still going strong"
1025Z    1430    WDIC    Clinchco      VA    Sign-on ID, C&W
1030Z    1430    CMJY    Cgo de Avila  Cuba  Sign-on, talk, R. Surco
1035Z    1460    WHBK    Marshall      NC    Power increase, NC PS ad, local ad, gospel
1107Z    1550    WTHB    Augusta       GA    ID at daytime power increase   
1130Z     630    YVKA    Caracas       Venez    R. Info, M talking
1136Z     540    CMBA    Sancti Spiritus Cuba    Rebelde, talk -- Cuba #90, ULR #366

Propagation again favors N-S paths. TAs were weak all last night, with Croatia 1134 discernible but poor copy. Pre-dawn is still more productive than sunset, but looking for high-power daytime-only coastal stations just before sign-off has netted two new ones the last few days; WBAJ last night and WAGL, also in SC, the night before.

R. Rumbos 670 in Venezuela is impossible from here, thanks to WWFE Miami and a Cuban R. Rebelde. The doorbells do not toll for me.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ 


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 


--- In ultralightdx@..., "jrtow3rd@..."

> I elected to go the digital voice recorder route - and settled on the Sony ICD PX720, a 2 x AAA 1GB USB-capable recorder, capable of 288 hr of recording - but you'll need lots of additional cells.

I looked at these, but the MP3-capable recorders aren't much more expensive, and the convenience is worth the cost. No conversion s/w needed. The ICD-series Sonys use a single AAA cell. I use rechargeable cells. I think I'm getting at least 6 hours on a charge, but haven't kept track.

If I hold the PL-380 and the recorder in the same hand, I get a little hash, but on a 1-foot cable there is no conducted noise. My regen has high gain and runs off a 4-foot/side loop near the radio, and the recorder doesn't radiate into that antenna either.

Once you have one, your next acquisition should be an audio-editing program. I use an older version of SoundForge (v5). Very handy for clipping out pieces of a recording and notching heterodynes.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ 


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

Other than an inherent imbalance between right and left mic levels on my unit, I was pleasantly surprised with the quality of recording from the car radio via the mikes -- in mono.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id

FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Mon, 3/1/10, jim_kr1s wrote:

From: jim_kr1s Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 5:56 AM

 


--- In ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com, "gc" wrote:
>
> Can I ask a question(s) here ??

Sure!

> Do these recorders record ACCEPTABLE and music is not terrible? Even though AM RADIO is mostly all TALK now I  would hate that any music played just turns into a gruble..guuurble. .

The built-in microphones aren't hi-fi. Using a better quality external mike or line input, you can set the record quality to suit, and it sounds very good. I use the SP mono mode to record off the radio. For hi-fi music you'd want one of the stereo modes. The quality is at least as good as audio tape, and probably better, as there is no tape noise or stretch. The USB connection makes it a snap to transfer files to any computer.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman. com/ 



Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

The Sony has 4 settings for combinations of battery efficiency/sound quality/size of resulting file.

The better the quality, the larger the file and the more battery use. It has 2 settings each for mono and stereo.

I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding is that within a certain range, digital recording doesn't vary much by the type of equipment except for the settings. This is parallel to using PC recording software - it's all dependent on the record settings.

All of that said, the quality is well more than adequate for DX. I haven't tried it, but if one wanted to record music through it in stereo, via the line in plug, I would think the quality would be good, but probably not excellent.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id

FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Mon, 3/1/10, gc wrote:

From: gc
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 4:13 AM

 

Can I ask a question(s) here ??

I have been doing allot of thinking about recording while I listen. A
long time ago I used popular cassette recorders. (the large cassette)

I still see a cassette recorder sold in Wal-Mart/Target. BUT no
cassettes.. Staples sells one too and cassettes but the cassettes are no
longer a 'dime a dozen'.

It seems about the same for micro-cassette except it seems the cassette
is more available.

Cassettes were made for music, etc ??

It seems the digital recorder is the future.

BUT they call them 'voice recorders' and ask sales people in stores and
they call them 'worthless for music' etc. (do they know?)

The lower cost digital recorders have no connection for a computer. Your
quality of sound is gonna be what you can hear out of its tiny speaker.

For example here I can not listen to a radio the same time a computer is
on. TOO MUCH NOISE. (poor ability to just use a mic and the computer
sound card with a radio running)

The digital recorder I would have to run the thing twice. A mic from the
recorder to my sound card. I guess it would be the same with an old tape
recorder.

The more expensive digital recorders have a direct line to the computer
(usb) and at least advertise they record in .mp3 or .wav ?

So the .mpg .wav is transfered to your computer and what you get is the
quality made by the recorder without a double-record.

I see less expensive digital recorders and the one mentioned here. My
big question now I guess is quality of recording? When it comes to
audio/music and all that stuff I guess somebody could pay thousands of
dollars looking for perfection. Do these recorders record ACCEPTABLE and
music is not terrible ? Even though AM RADIO is mostly all TALK now I
would hate that any music played just turns into a gruble..guuurble. .

Anybody use the non-usb-connect ones now ??



Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

John
 

Last fall found me listening from my deck with my Palstar R30A, PR-150, pi-net tuner, 12V gel cell, and hastily run long wires for R. St. Helena again. Needing a recorder, I went old school - Akai portable 5" reel to reel set running from 4 x D cells in a 4x holder from Radio Shack (The Akai is an antique - 6V positive ground!). At 15/16 ips, it permitted continuous operation all afternoon to evening, leaving the cells still at 1.51V. Of course, this was hardly a compact arrangement - and I hate to think about finding another 5" reel of tape.

I elected to go the digital voice recorder route - and settled on the Sony ICD PX720, a 2 x AAA 1GB USB-capable recorder, capable of 288 hr of recording - but you'll need lots of additional cells. It had to have a few basics - a line input being first. It has a Mic input with hi/lo sensitivity - works great with the Palstar's line output. My old Sony MDR V6's work great, too - as should ear buds. Speech is fine at the 'slowest' speed - music is better at the next 'faster' setting. It came with batteries, USB cable, and Sony's conversion software. I wanted a mag tape recorder replacement - and that's how I use it - as long as I don't lose it. It is teeny... remember, I've been using a r-t-r!

WallyWorld carries this recorder, as do discount office supply places. I got mine in a few days from the place named after large women - ~$46 inc s/h. Oh - the second attribute it actually has. Keep it away from a loop antenna - 6" is fine - and no digital hash while recording. I'm happy - it's great for a continuous and stand alone recorder. Next victim - to actually get a ULR!

John


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 


--- In ultralightdx@..., "gc" wrote:
>
> Can I ask a question(s) here ??

Sure!

> Do these recorders record ACCEPTABLE and music is not terrible? Even though AM RADIO is mostly all TALK now I  would hate that any music played just turns into a gruble..guuurble..

The built-in microphones aren't hi-fi. Using a better quality external mike or line input, you can set the record quality to suit, and it sounds very good. I use the SP mono mode to record off the radio. For hi-fi music you'd want one of the stereo modes. The quality is at least as good as audio tape, and probably better, as there is no tape noise or stretch. The USB connection makes it a snap to transfer files to any computer.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ 


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

terribly wet
 

Can I ask a question(s) here ??


I have been doing allot of thinking about recording while I listen. A
long time ago I used popular cassette recorders. (the large cassette)

I still see a cassette recorder sold in Wal-Mart/Target. BUT no
cassettes.. Staples sells one too and cassettes but the cassettes are no
longer a 'dime a dozen'.

It seems about the same for micro-cassette except it seems the cassette
is more available.

Cassettes were made for music, etc ??


It seems the digital recorder is the future.


BUT they call them 'voice recorders' and ask sales people in stores and
they call them 'worthless for music' etc. (do they know?)


The lower cost digital recorders have no connection for a computer. Your
quality of sound is gonna be what you can hear out of its tiny speaker.

For example here I can not listen to a radio the same time a computer is
on. TOO MUCH NOISE. (poor ability to just use a mic and the computer
sound card with a radio running)


The digital recorder I would have to run the thing twice. A mic from the
recorder to my sound card. I guess it would be the same with an old tape
recorder.

The more expensive digital recorders have a direct line to the computer
(usb) and at least advertise they record in .mp3 or .wav ?

So the .mpg .wav is transfered to your computer and what you get is the
quality made by the recorder without a double-record.


I see less expensive digital recorders and the one mentioned here. My
big question now I guess is quality of recording? When it comes to
audio/music and all that stuff I guess somebody could pay thousands of
dollars looking for perfection. Do these recorders record ACCEPTABLE and
music is not terrible ? Even though AM RADIO is mostly all TALK now I
would hate that any music played just turns into a gruble..guuurble..

Anybody use the non-usb-connect ones now ??


Re: Congratulations (again) to Alex Kaminski-- 25 States Heard Award

Chris Knight <chris@...>
 

Alex,

Congratulations on hearing 25 states! That's a very nice achievement,
especially on a stock ultralight.

73,

Chris

Chris Knight (N0IJK)
Fort Lupton, Colorado
http://sites.google.com/site/ftluptonulrlogs/


Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@...>
 

I use the Sony also but less frequently. I use it more for recording from the car radio while DX'ing in the car, but expect to use it more with ULR's when FM season returns.

The one downside is that even leaving the unit with the battery in it, just running the clock, it'll chew up that one AAA cell in a little more than a month.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id

FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Sun, 2/28/10, jim_kr1s wrote:

From: jim_kr1s
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped
To: ultralightdx@...
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:06 PM

 


--- In ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com, Guy Atkins wrote:
>
> One of my favorite discount PC parts sources, surpluscomputers. com, has a
> sale on a Memorex 64Mb digital voice recorder for $19.99, shipped:
>
> http://www.surplusc omputers. com/349416/ memorex-64mb- digital-voice- recorder. html
>
> The model number is MB2059B.
>
> This unit might be a good value for recording audio from ultralight radios,
> although I cannot tell from the description if it records MP3 files or some
> proprietary format. If proprietary, it's likely they include conversion
> software as other manufacturers do.

No PC connection, only headphone and microphone. Powered up as long as there are batteries installed, so if you don't use it often you'll have to take them out.

I recommend the Sony ICD-UX71. Costs more, does a lot more. I use its predecessor, the UX70, every time I DX! Plugs into a USB port (1.1 or 2.0) and looks like a flash drive, which it essentially is. Records directly in MP3, so no conversion necessary.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman. com/ 



Re: Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
 


--- In ultralightdx@..., Guy Atkins wrote:
>
> One of my favorite discount PC parts sources, surpluscomputers.com, has a
> sale on a Memorex 64Mb digital voice recorder for $19.99, shipped:
>
> http://www.surpluscomputers.com/349416/memorex-64mb-digital-voice-recorder.html
>
> The model number is MB2059B.
>
> This unit might be a good value for recording audio from ultralight radios,
> although I cannot tell from the description if it records MP3 files or some
> proprietary format. If proprietary, it's likely they include conversion
> software as other manufacturers do.

No PC connection, only headphone and microphone. Powered up as long as there are batteries installed, so if you don't use it often you'll have to take them out.

I recommend the Sony ICD-UX71. Costs more, does a lot more. I use its predecessor, the UX70, every time I DX! Plugs into a USB port (1.1 or 2.0) and looks like a flash drive, which it essentially is. Records directly in MP3, so no conversion necessary.

73,

Jim, KR1S
http://qrp.kearman.com/ 


Memorex 64Mb Digital Voice Recorder - $19.99 Shipped

Guy Atkins
 

One of my favorite discount PC parts sources, surpluscomputers.com, has a sale on a Memorex 64Mb digital voice recorder for $19.99, shipped:
 
 
The model number is MB2059B.
 
This unit might be a good value for recording audio from ultralight radios, although I cannot tell from the description if it records MP3 files or some proprietary format. If proprietary, it's likely they include conversion software as other manufacturers do.
 
73,
 
Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA
 


Congratulations (again) to Alex Kaminski-- 25 States Heard Award

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Ohio's Alex Kaminski continues to set a gold medal pace in his Ultralight DXing, and has now qualified for his third Ultralight Award Certificate this month-- for 25 US States Heard in the Barefoot ULR Class. This is in addition to his recent awards for 100 Stations Heard, and for 4 Canadian Provinces Heard, both in the Barefoot Class.
 
Rob Ross and I take pleasure in awarding Alex his latest Award Certificate, retaining John Bryant's unique "classic radio" artwork. We thank Alex for his interest in our Ultralight Awards program, and wish him the best of great Ultralight DXing in the future!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
    An extensive group of awards certificates is available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee. Each recipient receives a digital file which may be used for electronic display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 12" x 11" on good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and the simple application procedures are found in the Downloads>Ultralight Files>General Information area of dxer.ca and our own file area here at ultralightdx. Applications go directly to Rob Ross com


Re: still having issues with PL-380

Chris Knight <chris@...>
 

Hi Scott and Stephen,

I have the same problems Stephen is having except my big problem station is
15 miles away and uses less power (1510-KCKK). If the SI4734 has the
capability of tuning the loopstick antenna thus placing the passband at the
desired station, say 200kHz away from KCKK, shouldn't the problem with
Dynamic Range be significantly reduced as to not desensitize the radio?
OTOH, those are pretty low current draws you mentioned. Can the AGC
algorithm be overridden? If so, should I even want to think about overriding
the AGC?

Stephen, a high-Q loopstick antenna and notch filter should help as Scott
suggested. Also, an external, tuned antenna such as a box loop should work
as long as it doesn't inject too much signal at the frequency of interest.
If it does, you can decouple it a bit or de-tune the loop's peak slightly
off frequency. Using external broadband loops are likely out of the question
unless they are directional away from your local powerhouses or have low
gain or both. Are your two powerhouse pests on the same direction/heading?
That would help. Using an Amidon 7.5" Type 61 ferrite core loopstick is
likely out the question as it is broadband, but if it offers up enough Q, it
may help. Then again it may cause overloading from other local stations due
to improved gain over the stock loopstick. Decoupling works on broadband
loops, too, to some degree to reduce desensitizing. It's all a matter of
experimenting and figuring out which combinations work the best. My best
suggestion would be to replace the coil windings on the internal loopstick
with litz wire like Jim and Gary did for higher Q and use a tuned box loop
antenna for coupling. That would be a good place to start.

Chris

Chris Knight (N0IJK)
Fort Lupton, Colorado
http://sites.google.com/site/ftluptonulrlogs/