HI GARY,

If the relay shorted out the unused turns, in this case 4 turns, then the remaining 2 turns with the same var cap, is very efficient, at receiving the top end of the band. i copied a 1kw signal from NJ to MI at 1680kc. because of local noise and an indoor antenna, it took me a year to log WTTM. I've been using this setup on different loops for a year. my thinking is: use the smallest number of turns with a large var cap 1150pf, this cuts down on total wire resistance and losses. I see you use a small var cap 365pf and more turns. wonder which system is best ?

byron

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
> Hi Byron,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, I've done a few experiments by tapping
> off some turns, and using switches both for reduced coil inductance, and for
> adding capacitance to lower a loop's tuning frequency. I haven't yet run
> A/B DX signal reception tests to determine how well these modified loops
> stack up against the fully-symmetrical models, but there is a lot more
> experimentation that could be done. Since the largest PVC loops are always outside,
> everything must be waterproofed, and made as secure as possible to
> withstand heavy wind.
>
> After my initial experimentation to develop the large-size (6' sided and
> larger) PVC Loops in the spring of last year, most of the additional work
> has been to develop practical portable PVC Loops, which can be quickly
> disassembled to fit inside a compact car trunk for DXpeditions. There is a world
> of additional experimentation that could be done with these cheap and
> effective antennas, which I personally believe hold the greatest potential for
> making Ultralight radios very competitive with table receivers in all-out
> DXing (at least here on the west coast :-).
>
> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/20/2010 5:30:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> wa8lcz@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> hi gary,
>
> have you tried tapping off a few turns on your 9 ft loop for the higher
> freqs (1000 to 1700 kc)? I use 2 turns for hi freqs and 6 turns for low freqs
> (530-1000 kc) on my 34 inch loop and it works pretty well, across the
> entire band. you could use a relay to select 2 or 6 turns.
>
> byron
>
> --- In _ultralightdx@..._ (mailto:ultralightdx@...)
> , D1028Gary@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments on the TP-DX reports, and of course I knew that
> > these that these monster loops would be strictly outdoor animals in
> rainy
> > western Washington, so they were designed with some serious weather
> > protection.
> >
> > Like I was telling Bruce on the IRCA list, even Guy Atkins (4 miles away
> to
> > the SE, in Puyallup) and I have major differences in our TP-DXing
> results,
> > with Guy pulling in far more high-band TP's and me pulling in more
> > low-band TP's. Part of this may be related to our soil differences (he's
> on a
> > rocky hill, while I'm in a fertile river valley), but the main reason
> may be
> > our completely different antenna systems. The 9' PVC Loop (like all
> tuned
> > passive loops) has its highest "Q" and best performance on the lower
> tuned
> > frequencies, and its combination of very high gain and single-frequency
> > optimization can be fairly potent from 530 kHz up to about 900 kHz. In
> comparison
> > to single-loop directional antennas (like those used by Guy and Bruce),
> > the 9' PVC loop loses this relative advantage when tuning the higher AM
> > frequencies, and both of these DXers can routinely receive high-band TP
> audio
> > that doesn't show up here. So it's essentially a bizarre situation where
> the
> > 9' PVC loop seems to be an overachiever on the lower AM frequencies, and
> > an underachiever (relative to Flags, Pennants, K9AY's, etc.) on the
> higher
> > AM frequencies. Guy and I have known about the strange differences in
> our
> > TP-DXing results for some time, and plan some additional tests on this
> > fascinating subject as rare free time allows.
> >
> > 73, Gary
> >
> > In a message dated 9/19/2010 4:31:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > satya@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Another impressive list, Gary! I hope you don't get too wet standing
> > under your skyscraper loop every morning - maybe take a couple more
> pieces
> > of PVC and put an awning on it :-)
> >
> > I second what Brice P. said earlier - what a difference 40 miles makes,
> as
> > your list is quite different from mine in some regards. 837-China was in
> > good here as it was with Bruce, and 693 was easily the best of the JJ big
> > guns here. 1287-JJ was pretty good at times as well. I heard two
> > stations on 657, judging by the dueling hets, but again 660-KAPS foiled
> > any plans to hear them; I have reversed the direction of my super loop to
> > have a northward null, so perhaps things will be easier tomorrow.
> > 1566-HLAZ was good all morning, but 1575 was but a light het.
> >
> > Kevin S
> > Bainbridge Island, WA
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
> > > various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic
> > > fade-ins
> > > (like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at
> > > yesterday's
> > > strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
> > > propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and
> > > Korean stations
> > > seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though,
> and
> > > "big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.
> > >
> > > Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
> > > season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best
> > > signal
> > > of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335.
> The
> > > CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and
> 936
> > > kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from
> > > the
> > > other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was
> off
> > > in
> > > strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.
> > >
> > > One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702
> kHz
> > > (a
> > > frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
> > > typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged
> on
> > > 702
> > > (or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
> > > signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in
> an
> > > optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great
> to
> > > have
> > > Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely
> different
> > > Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!
> > >
> > > The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5"
> > loopstick)
> > > inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back
> > > yard:
> > >
> > > 594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
> > > 603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at
> > > 1308
> > > 639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
> > > 1338
> > > 648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
> > > 1321
> > > 657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
> > > strength
> > > 666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic
> > > strength
> > > 675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
> > > 684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first
> > > Asian
> > > audio
> > > heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
> > > 702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
> > > splatter
> > > at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
> > > 738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
> > > this typical September mix
> > > 747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
> > > 1323
> > > 756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season
> > > so
> > > far
> > > 774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
> > > 1311
> > > 783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
> > > frequency
> > > 891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
> > > other out
> > > 927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
> > > repeatedly
> > > 936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
> > > 1318
> > > 972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at
> > > 1337
> > > 1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
> > > morning
> > > 1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
> > > language
> > > external program at 1335
> > > 1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
> > > co-channels
> > > 1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around
> > > 1338
> > > 1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
> > > morning
> > > 1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
> > > at 1306
> > > 1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
> > > 1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
> > > morning
> > >
> > > 73 and Good DX,
> > > Gary DeBock
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

 

hi gary,

have you tried tapping off a few turns on your 9 ft loop for the higher freqs (1000 to 1700 kc)? I use 2 turns for hi freqs and 6 turns for low freqs (530-1000 kc) on my 34 inch loop and it works pretty well, across the entire band. you could use a relay to select 2 or 6 turns.

byron

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for your comments on the TP-DX reports, and of course I knew that
> these that these monster loops would be strictly outdoor animals in rainy
> western Washington, so they were designed with some serious weather
> protection.
>
> Like I was telling Bruce on the IRCA list, even Guy Atkins (4 miles away to
> the SE, in Puyallup) and I have major differences in our TP-DXing results,
> with Guy pulling in far more high-band TP's and me pulling in more
> low-band TP's. Part of this may be related to our soil differences (he's on a
> rocky hill, while I'm in a fertile river valley), but the main reason may be
> our completely different antenna systems. The 9' PVC Loop (like all tuned
> passive loops) has its highest "Q" and best performance on the lower tuned
> frequencies, and its combination of very high gain and single-frequency
> optimization can be fairly potent from 530 kHz up to about 900 kHz. In comparison
> to single-loop directional antennas (like those used by Guy and Bruce),
> the 9' PVC loop loses this relative advantage when tuning the higher AM
> frequencies, and both of these DXers can routinely receive high-band TP audio
> that doesn't show up here. So it's essentially a bizarre situation where the
> 9' PVC loop seems to be an overachiever on the lower AM frequencies, and
> an underachiever (relative to Flags, Pennants, K9AY's, etc.) on the higher
> AM frequencies. Guy and I have known about the strange differences in our
> TP-DXing results for some time, and plan some additional tests on this
> fascinating subject as rare free time allows.
>
> 73, Gary
>
> In a message dated 9/19/2010 4:31:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> satya@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Another impressive list, Gary! I hope you don't get too wet standing
> under your skyscraper loop every morning - maybe take a couple more pieces
> of PVC and put an awning on it :-)
>
> I second what Brice P. said earlier - what a difference 40 miles makes, as
> your list is quite different from mine in some regards. 837-China was in
> good here as it was with Bruce, and 693 was easily the best of the JJ big
> guns here. 1287-JJ was pretty good at times as well. I heard two
> stations on 657, judging by the dueling hets, but again 660-KAPS foiled
> any plans to hear them; I have reversed the direction of my super loop to
> have a northward null, so perhaps things will be easier tomorrow.
> 1566-HLAZ was good all morning, but 1575 was but a light het.
>
> Kevin S
> Bainbridge Island, WA
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
> > various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic
> > fade-ins
> > (like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at
> > yesterday's
> > strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
> > propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and
> > Korean stations
> > seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
> > "big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.
> >
> > Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
> > season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best
> > signal
> > of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
> > CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
> > kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from
> > the
> > other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off
> > in
> > strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.
> >
> > One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz
> > (a
> > frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
> > typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on
> > 702
> > (or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
> > signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
> > optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to
> > have
> > Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
> > Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!
> >
> > The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5"
> loopstick)
> > inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back
> > yard:
> >
> > 594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
> > 603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at
> > 1308
> > 639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
> > 1338
> > 648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
> > 1321
> > 657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
> > strength
> > 666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic
> > strength
> > 675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
> > 684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first
> > Asian
> > audio
> > heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
> > 702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
> > splatter
> > at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
> > 738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
> > this typical September mix
> > 747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
> > 1323
> > 756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season
> > so
> > far
> > 774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
> > 1311
> > 783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
> > frequency
> > 891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
> > other out
> > 927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
> > repeatedly
> > 936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
> > 1318
> > 972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at
> > 1337
> > 1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
> > morning
> > 1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
> > language
> > external program at 1335
> > 1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
> > co-channels
> > 1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around
> > 1338
> > 1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
> > morning
> > 1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
> > at 1306
> > 1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
> > 1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
> > morning
> >
> > 73 and Good DX,
> > Gary DeBock
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for your comments on the TP-DX reports, and of course I knew that
these that these monster loops would be strictly outdoor animals in rainy
western Washington, so they were designed with some serious weather
protection.

Like I was telling Bruce on the IRCA list, even Guy Atkins (4 miles away to
the SE, in Puyallup) and I have major differences in our TP-DXing results,
with Guy pulling in far more high-band TP's and me pulling in more
low-band TP's. Part of this may be related to our soil differences (he's on a
rocky hill, while I'm in a fertile river valley), but the main reason may be
our completely different antenna systems. The 9' PVC Loop (like all tuned
passive loops) has its highest "Q" and best performance on the lower tuned
frequencies, and its combination of very high gain and single-frequency
optimization can be fairly potent from 530 kHz up to about 900 kHz. In comparison
to single-loop directional antennas (like those used by Guy and Bruce),
the 9' PVC loop loses this relative advantage when tuning the higher AM
frequencies, and both of these DXers can routinely receive high-band TP audio
that doesn't show up here. So it's essentially a bizarre situation where the
9' PVC loop seems to be an overachiever on the lower AM frequencies, and
an underachiever (relative to Flags, Pennants, K9AY's, etc.) on the higher
AM frequencies. Guy and I have known about the strange differences in our
TP-DXing results for some time, and plan some additional tests on this
fascinating subject as rare free time allows.

73, Gary

In a message dated 9/19/2010 4:31:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
satya@... writes:




Another impressive list, Gary! I hope you don't get too wet standing
under your skyscraper loop every morning - maybe take a couple more pieces
of PVC and put an awning on it :-)

I second what Brice P. said earlier - what a difference 40 miles makes, as
your list is quite different from mine in some regards. 837-China was in
good here as it was with Bruce, and 693 was easily the best of the JJ big
guns here. 1287-JJ was pretty good at times as well. I heard two
stations on 657, judging by the dueling hets, but again 660-KAPS foiled
any plans to hear them; I have reversed the direction of my super loop to
have a northward null, so perhaps things will be easier tomorrow.
1566-HLAZ was good all morning, but 1575 was but a light het.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

Hello All,

It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic
fade-ins
(like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at
yesterday's
strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and
Korean stations
seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
"big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.

Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best
signal
of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from
the
other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off
in
strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.

One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz
(a
frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on
702
(or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to
have
Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!

The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5"

loopstick)

inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back
yard:

594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at
1308
639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
1338
648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
1321
657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
strength
666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic
strength
675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first
Asian
audio
heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
splatter
at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
this typical September mix
747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
1323
756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season
so
far
774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
1311
783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
frequency
891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
other out
927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
repeatedly
936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
1318
972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at
1337
1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
morning
1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
language
external program at 1335
1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
co-channels
1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around
1338
1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
morning
1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
at 1306
1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
morning

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock

 

Gary:

I'd not planned to DX this morning, but awoke early enough to hear a few TP signals. While nothing spectacular was heard it was as always a thrill to hear medium wave signals from the Orient. All were logged using a PL-310 and 7.5" loop stick.

594 JOAK, Tokyo J, fair, readable audio at 1203 UTC, fading away at 1211. The first JOAK audio this season.
648 Unid., slight het noted at 1210 and 1212.
693 JOAB, Tokyo J, fair, readable audio in KGGF and Unid. 690 splash at 1206-1210. The first time this season.
774 JOUB, Akita J, fair, readable at 1208-1214, fading away afterward (local sunrise 1215).
828 Presumed JOBB, slight het at 1214.
972 Presumed HLCA, very strong hat 1144.

I checked 567, 657, 666, 747, 1053, 1134 and 1566 several times hearing nothing.

I'm sure any listener west of the Mississippi River could have heard JOAK, JOAB and JOUB this morning. They were also audible on a barefoot PL-310. The only difficult part of hearing TP's is getting out of bed when you're awaken by the alarm clock!

Good DX everyone.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(near Perry OK USA)

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
> various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic fade-ins
> (like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at yesterday's
> strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
> propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and Korean stations
> seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
> "big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.
>
> Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
> season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best signal
> of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
> CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
> kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from the
> other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off in
> strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.
>
> One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz (a
> frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
> typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on 702
> (or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
> signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
> optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to have
> Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
> Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!
>
> The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick)
> inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back yard:
>
> 594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
> 603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at 1308
> 639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
> 1338
> 648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
> 1321
> 657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
> strength
> 666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic strength
> 675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
> 684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first Asian
> audio
> heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
> 702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
> splatter
> at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
> 738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
> this typical September mix
> 747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
> 1323
> 756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season so
> far
> 774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
> 1311
> 783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
> frequency
> 891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
> other out
> 927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
> repeatedly
> 936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
> 1318
> 972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at 1337
> 1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
> morning
> 1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
> language
> external program at 1335
> 1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
> co-channels
> 1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around 1338
> 1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
> morning
> 1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
> at 1306
> 1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
> 1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
> morning
>
> 73 and Good DX,
> Gary DeBock
>

I notice one of the eBay sellers of the PL-380 is listing a Tecsun AN-05 antenna as an extra carrot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TECSUN-PL-380-DSP-ETM-PLL-WORLD-BAND-RADIO-PL380-/220525702939?pt=Shortwave_Radios&hash=item33585b2f1b

Is this the same as the "stock" external antenna that would come with the unit from everyone anyway? And has anyone dealt with this seller?

Thanks for any advice,

Theo

Hello All,

It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic fade-ins
(like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at yesterday's
strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and Korean stations
seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
"big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.

Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best signal
of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from the
other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off in
strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.

One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz (a
frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on 702
(or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to have
Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!

The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick)
inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back yard:

594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at 1308
639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
1338
648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
1321
657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
strength
666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic strength
675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first Asian
audio
heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
splatter
at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
this typical September mix
747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
1323
756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season so
far
774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
1311
783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
frequency
891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
other out
927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
repeatedly
936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
1318
972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at 1337
1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
morning
1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
language
external program at 1335
1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
co-channels
1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around 1338
1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
morning
1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
at 1306
1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
morning

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock

Hello Richard,

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

The radio is the new Redsun RP007, a waterproofed, shock-resistant AM-FM-SW
portable radio apparently designed by Redsun according to a demanding
order by the Russian military. The radio is specifically designed to withstand
severe weather conditions, so that a special agent out in the field could
receive radio communication despite rain, severe cold, or even dropping the
radio in a river (!).

The original plan was to report to the group about the awesome survival
capabilities of this new portable radio (which actually has very good AM
reception, similar to an RP2100 with better IF filtering), but for some reason
Redsun never found a seller to market the radio on eBay for export (the
Chinese domestic price is around $140 on Taobao), so until an eBay seller
offers the model for sale, I don't have any source to recommend to potential
purchasers. To make this story even more bizarre, the anonymous eBay seller
who sent me this free radio (which he received free from Redsun) is now no
longer selling on eBay, having gone through a stretch of poor health, which
caused delayed radio shipments to send his feedback rating from 100% down to
97%.

The entire episode is like something straight out of a spy thriller. So my
free Redsun RP007 (despite its awesome survival construction) now still
awaits a purchasing source for North American hobbyists, before I can post a
full review on it.

73, Gary DeBock


In a message dated 1/3/2010 1:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
lrdheat@... writes:




Gary,

I think that you mentioned awhile back that a company was letting you test
a new, possibly great mw radio (doesn't matter to me if it is not a
ulr...). Is there reason for us to hope that a new, great radio is in the
offing???

Happy New Year!

Heatwave

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, D1028Gary@..., 1/2/10, D<D1028Gary@...> wrote:



From: D1028Gary@...<D1028Gary@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: G8 vs CR-1100 preliminary AM BCB
report-FARMERIK
To: ultralightdx@To: ultraligTo:
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:05 PM




Hello Farmerik,

All of the radios you mentioned (G8, PL-380, CR-1110 and PL-600) are on
hand here, in this overcrowded shack.

The CR-1110 is a rather odd bird that has far better AM sensitivity on the
high frequencies (especially the X band) than on the middle and low band.
It was tested extensively against an aligned Sony ICF-S5W on all
frequencies from 530-1700 kHz, and was found inferior in sensitivity to that classic
model on most AM frequencies, but clearly superior on the X band. It also
did not suffer from the ICF-S5W's severe image reception issue, of course.

I did a mini-review of the CR-1100 back in June, which may be of interest
to you. Some of the information is dated (such as the praise of the
PL-300WT, the only DSP model available at the time), but the rest should give you
detailed impressions on the model. Hope you enjoy it!

73 and Have Fun, Gary



Hello All,



Very impressed with the performance of the new Tecsun PL-300WT DSP-enhanced

Ultralight radio on medium-wave, it was a natural decision to place an

order with Amazon.com for the new full-sized Tecsun CR-1100 AM-FM
portable,

which uses the same innovative Si430/31 DSP chip from Silicon Labs. Today
my

new CR-1100 portable arrived from Kaito Electronics after a 4-day delay,

and payment of $69.99 plus $13.00 shipping (by USPS Priority Mail).



The CR-1100 is strictly a Chinese-market portable, to the extent that all

of the controls are labeled only in Chinese. Despite this, Kaito has

provided a very basic (and poorly translated) English manual, as well as
the

standard and far more thorough Chinese manual. The AM frequency steps have
also

been reprogrammed to 10 kHz, matching the North American market.



Immediately after arrival, the radio's out-of-the-box AM performance was

tested against a fully aligned Sony ICF-S5W portable (which has had the

frequency coverage extended to 1700 kHz). The comparison of these two
radios

proved to be very interesting, and showed that while the CR-1100 has some

good DXing potential on AM, it also has some puzzling shortcomings.



In comparison to the PL-300WT's sharp DSP-enhanced selectivity, the CR-1100

had a tough time going up against the ICF-S5W, with its common 455 kHz

Murata filter. Local slop on the CR-1100 was more troublesome than on the

PL-300WT, making it seem like Tecsun programmed the DSP chip to provide a

wider selectivity setting on this music-oriented receiver. The ICF-S5W was
able

to weakly receive KPQ-560 in the null of semi-local KVI-570 in the early

afternoon, while the CR-1100 could only produce KVI splatter. Low-band

sensitivity on the CR-1100 was very good, but not quite up to the
class-leading

ICF-S5W standard. Although the CR-1100's low-band sensitivity will match

that of the PL-300WT, unlike the PL-300WT, the CR-1100 cannot tune in 1
kHz

steps, making it impossible to chase TP's on the 9 kHz splits.



The CR-1100 versus ICF-S5W contest became much more competitive on the high

band, however, and on the X-band the new Tecsun was clearly far more

sensitive than the classic Sony portable. In fact, the CR-1100 sets a new

standard for X-band sensitivity among portables, having weak signal
performance

never experienced in extensive testing here. Weak fringe stations that were


barely audible on the ICF-S5W had solid audio on the Tecsun.



Also notable in the CR-1100 was the complete freedom from image reception

of local stations, a major shortcoming of the classic ICF-S5W. The Sony's

image reception detracts greatly from its otherwise stellar performance,
but

the Tecsun DSP chip appears to have solved the problem entirely.



After the out-of-the-box performance test, the CR-1100 was disassembled to

check the loopstick construction, and the possibility of alignment. Both

the PL-300WT and CR-1100 were designed to have a "no alignment" RF system,
in

which the DSP chip ensures maximum performance without loopstick peaking,

or adjustment of a 1400 kHz trimmer. In the CR-1100, there is a 4.25" x

.36" single-coil loopstick in the middle of the cabinet, which seems
rather

odd because of the extensive cabinet space on both sides which would allow


placement of a much longer ferrite bar, if desired. Alignment was attempted


by shifting the coil, but this had no effect on the CR-1100's sensitivity
on

any AM frequency. Apparently DXers will need to accept the CR-1100's

sensitivity as delivered, unless they wish to transplant a larger ferrite
bar

with a coil of equal inductance (which is certainly possible with all the

extra cabinet space).



The CR-1100 also has a sensitive FM section, although again, for some

unknown reason it seemed slightly less sensitive than that of the PL-300WT.


Perhaps there is a greater impedance mismatch with the CR-1100's short whip


antenna, but in any case the PL-300WT Ultralight can receive more weak FM

fringe stations here than the CR-1100.



The CR-1100 has a large music-oriented speaker and excellent audio, with

analog tone and volume control knobs. The 8-ohm speaker has a 1-watt rated

output. The radio also has 300 memories, and various digital tuning

capabilities. It operates on 4 "D" batteries, and comes in an attractive

black-brown cabinet. It is available from Amazon.com (via Kaito
Electronics) for

$69.99 plus $13.00 shipping.



So after the full evaluation, what would be the CR-1100 verdict for a

dedicated medium-wave DXer? If you are a domestic DXer that concentrates on
the

upper frequencies (especially the X-Band), the new CR-1100 would be tough

to beat. Its upper-band sensitivity (and generally good selectivity) is

likely to set a new standard for contemporary portables. Urban DXers will

appreciate the complete freedom from image reception, and general freedom
from

spurious products. Hobbyists who enjoy music reception will not be

disappointed in the CR-1100's audio qualities. However, if you wish to
chase

transoceanic DX, or wish to experience the maximum potential of the
exciting new

Silicon Labs DSP chip, my recommendation would be to pass on the CR-1100--

and go for the new PL-300WT Ultralight model. Its 1 kHz tuning ability and

stellar selectivity (plus superior FM sensitivity) make it the obvious

choice for most medium-wave DXers.



73 and Best Wishes,



Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)








*

* _farmerik@cox. net_
(http://us.mc576.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=farmerik@...) writes:





OK, now I get it. Sort of like the audio version of the screen break-up on
digital video. I can see why it would be a problem for really weak signal
DXing, however on my G8 I don't think I will miss any station strong enough
to actually listen to.
Both the G8 and CR-1100 hear weak stations with less noise and
interference than my analog radios, but miss all the really weak signals entirely. The
CR-1100 is significantly more sensitive and has less noise on its weak
stations though. Anyone have a PL-380 AND a CR-1100 to compare? My new PL-600
seems MUCH more sensitive than the CR-1100. - FARMERIK

--- In _ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com_ (http://us.mc576.mail.yah
oo.com/mc/compose?to=ultralightdx@...) , Richard Berler <lrdheat@ >
wrote:

The soft mute occurs when tuned exactly on frequency on weak signals

that vary between s/n's of 0, and s/n's that rise above zero...instead of a
smooth rise or fall in the audible signal, the signal sounds like it is
flickering. The set, if soft mute is the default mode (as it is on the G8 and
PL-310), will semi mute the signal of a station that falls below (or rises
above) a certain threshold of signal strength, resulting in the flickering
of the audible signal.

Â
Heatwave

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, farmerik <farmerik@ .> wrote:


From: farmerik <farmerik@ .>
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: G8 vs CR-1100 preliminary AM BCB

report-FARMERIK

To: _ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com_

(http://us.mc576.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com)

Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 9:49 AM


Â




I used to use WICC as a test for a good radio in the daytime. It is much

closer to Westport than I am in the Northeast of CT, while Westport and
Naugatuck [WICC] are in the Southwest part of the state. Since you used to
live in the area, I'll mention some call letters next time.

Maybe I need some help understanding exactly what the dreaded soft mute

sounds like. Is it only a problem when tuned one or two Kc. off? Or is it
the mute which happens before you couple an external loop, and you have to
change frequency, and come back after the loop is in place? Maybe something
else entirely? - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Berler <lrdheat@ > wrote:

Thanks!
ÂÂ
Also, check to see if there is a pumping on marginal-weak daytime

signals (the dreaded soft mute).

ÂÂ
I used to live in Westport, CT. From there, I needed a good radio to

get WBZ and WPRO during the daytime, and to get WCAU, KYW, and WFIL?(560)
from Philly.

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Heatwave
Streets of Laredo, TX!
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--- On Fri, 1/1/10, farmerik <farmerik@ .> wrote:


From: farmerik <farmerik@ .>
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: G8 vs CR-1100 preliminary AM BCB

report-FARMERIK

To: ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:21 PM


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I'll see what I can do. I usually don't listen in the daytime.-

FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Berler <lrdheat@ >

wrote:

Happy New Year!

> > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

Can you do some mid-day testing, and post your observations?
ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
Thanks!
ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
Heatwave

> > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, farmerik <farmerik@ .> wrote:

From: farmerik <farmerik@ .>
Subject: [ultralightdx] G8 vs CR-1100 preliminary AM BCB

report-FARMERIK

To: ultralightdx@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:31 PM


ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

>

I've had the G8 for a couple months, since joining here, but just

got my CR-1100 today. Both have the same DSP chip I believe. The CR only
tunes in 10 Kc. steps on the AM BCB, but I believe it can be programed for 9
Kc. steps too.[You can not 'slope tune' it off a Kc. or two to escape an
adjacent much stronger station.]

The CR-1100 is rated by Tecsun at 0.5mv/M with its larger ferrite

and the G8 is listed as 1mv/M. The CR-1100 is not really so much different
than a modified DSP ULR with larger ferrite, but I don't think it qualifies
for competition.

I placed the two radios side by side, facing the same direction,

running both on good alkaline batteries. I tuned three ten 'channel' bands,
700-790, 1000-1090 and 1500-1590, and took notes on each station I heard.
I'll summarize here. The CR is noticeably better on about 50% of the
frequencies, and about 1/3rd of those are substantial improvements. I got stations
on all but 6 of the 30 frequencies on both radios, so it is a good night
here in Connecticut.

> > As expected, the audio bandwidth on the CR sounds noticeably wider,

but what I didn't expect is that when ever there is back round noise, or a
second weak station is also heard, it is much quieter on the CR. I
expected wider selectivity to hear more noise and other stations not less. The
narrower G8 bandwidth seems to hurt, NOT help with interference.

> Also, I looked at the meters for dBa and s/n. Both numbers scrolled

all the time on strong and weak stations. The CR had +5 to +10 more units
on the dBu scale on average, and sometimes the differences were much
greater. The G8 ran +10 to +15 units on the s/n read out. I don't know what to
make of that, but probably they are not 'calibrated' or 'standardized' , so
it does not mean a thing. If anyone can explain it, I'm all ears.

I tried the TERK with both radios, and as before with the G8, it can

lower back round noise,but it does not seem to ever dig a weak station out
of noise like it does on a cheap portable.

-FARMERIK

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The PL-390 is pocket-sized like the Sony 7600, better sound than the
PL-310/380 since it has two speakers, and the longer antenna makes it
about the best FM radio period, methinks. I highly recommend it.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

Why not the tiny Tecsun PL-310 - Truely amazing DSP portable - Only from
ebay it seems though

On 19 September 2010 01:27, neilbellgroups <neil.bell@...>
wrote:

She wants a digital and not pocket sized - reasonable size like a 7600
or
smaller

Neil
KJ6FBA


--- In ultralightdx@... <ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>,
keith beesley <keith1226@> wrote:

The current coat-pocket-sized Sony is the ICF-38:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_10?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=sony+icf38+portable+am+fm+radio&sprefix=sony+icf38

For some reason, my S10 MK2's receive weaker FM stations with greater

clarity when the whip antenna is fully collapsed:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICF-S10MK2-Pocket-Radio-Silver/dp/B00020S7XK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1284854897&sr=1-1

(I'm not necessarily endorsing Amazon, just stealing their pictures)

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, keith beesley <keith1226@> wrote:

From: keith beesley <keith1226@>

Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Good UL for FM ??
To: ultralightdx@... <ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:47 PM
Neil,

For general-purpose listening, you can't go wrong with a
Sony S10-MK2. Pocket-sized, good reception and speaker sound
for its size, good build quality, batteries last a long time
(analog tuning, no digital doodads to drain them). Widely
available new for $10-15. I keep a couple around the house
and in the cars for power failures, etc. Usable with
headphones or earbuds, but you'll need an adapter to make
the sound play in both ears.

For something a little larger, the Sony ICF-34 or the
equivalent (don't remember the current model no.).

Keith

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, neilbellgroups <neil.bell@>
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Subject: [ultralightdx] Good UL for FM ??
To: ultralightdx@... <ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 4:20 PM
No interest in Dxing but want to
recommend a GOOD FM broadcast radio (reasonably

small,

portable) for my daughter.

Neil Bell
KJ6FBA



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Another impressive list, Gary! I hope you don't get too wet standing
under your skyscraper loop every morning - maybe take a couple more pieces
of PVC and put an awning on it :-)

I second what Brice P. said earlier - what a difference 40 miles makes, as
your list is quite different from mine in some regards. 837-China was in
good here as it was with Bruce, and 693 was easily the best of the JJ big
guns here. 1287-JJ was pretty good at times as well. I heard two
stations on 657, judging by the dueling hets, but again 660-KAPS foiled
any plans to hear them; I have reversed the direction of my super loop to
have a northward null, so perhaps things will be easier tomorrow.
1566-HLAZ was good all morning, but 1575 was but a light het.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

> Hello All,
>
> It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
> various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic
> fade-ins
> (like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at
> yesterday's
> strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
> propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and
> Korean stations
> seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
> "big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.
>
> Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
> season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best
> signal
> of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
> CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
> kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from
> the
> other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off
> in
> strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.
>
> One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz
> (a
> frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
> typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on
> 702
> (or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
> signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
> optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to
> have
> Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
> Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!
>
> The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick)
> inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back
> yard:
>
> 594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
> 603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at
> 1308
> 639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
> 1338
> 648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
> 1321
> 657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
> strength
> 666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic
> strength
> 675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
> 684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first
> Asian
> audio
> heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
> 702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
> splatter
> at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
> 738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
> this typical September mix
> 747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
> 1323
> 756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season
> so
> far
> 774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
> 1311
> 783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
> frequency
> 891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
> other out
> 927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
> repeatedly
> 936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
> 1318
> 972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at
> 1337
> 1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
> morning
> 1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
> language
> external program at 1335
> 1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
> co-channels
> 1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around
> 1338
> 1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
> morning
> 1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
> at 1306
> 1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
> 1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
> morning
>
> 73 and Good DX,
> Gary DeBock
>
>
>

Hello All,

It was another China morning here, with moderate signals showing up on
various new frequencies like 684 and 1044 kHz. There were no dramatic
fade-ins
(like yesterday's 657-China) and signals in general were not at
yesterday's
strong levels, but the morning was another indication of shifting
propagation bringing more Chinese areas into play. The Japanese and
Korean stations
seemed a little down in strength compared to previous days, though, and
"big gun" TP audio didn't sound very big this morning.

Rare decent audio on 684 kHz was observed here for the first time this
season around 1330 (apparent Chinese), and CRI on 1044 kHz had its best
signal
of the season so far with its Japanese language program around 1335. The
CNR1 stations on 639 and 756 had their best audio so far, and 927 and 936
kHz took turns producing fair audio. In comparison to these, audio from
the
other typically strong Asians on 603, 648, 657, 666, 675 and 738 was off
in
strength a little, and the NHK stations weren't especially vibrant.

One interesting find around 1325 was a strong, ragged carrier on 702 kHz
(a
frequency with severe 710-Seattle splatter here), which sounded like a
typical (rickety) North Korean transmitter. No TP has ever been logged on
702
(or 711) here because of the oppressive KIRO splatter, but the 702 kHz
signal disappeared right after the huge 9' loop was wrestled around in an
optimistic attempt to null KIRO (easier said than done :-) It's great to
have
Walt's TP reports back from Masset-- a location in a completely different
Asiatic propagation league than Puyallup!

The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick)
inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back
yard:

594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Fair-good with Japanese conversation around 1312
603 TP-Mix UnID Chinese station having the edge over HLSA Korean at
1308
639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair-good Chinese speech and music,
1338
648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Chinese program at fair strength w/ fades,
1321
657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea All alone this morning but usually at fair
strength
666 JOBK Osaka, Japan In and out with Japanese speech at anemic
strength
675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Fair Vietnamese signals in 680 splatter, 1318
684 UnID Fair Chinese speech fading in suddenly around 1337; first
Asian
audio
heard on this frequency since last season, but no ID clues
702 UnID Strong ragged carrier presumed from NK, but too much KIRO
splatter
at 1325 to dig out the funky audio
738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Fair Chinese speech over a presumed HKLG in
this typical September mix
747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Fair-good signals no match for KXL splatter at
1323
756 CNR1 China Fair-good Chinese program at 1335, best sigs of season
so
far
774 JOUB Akita, Japan NHK2 program barely audible in severe KTTH slop,
1311
783 UnID Threshold audio (apparently Chinese) showing up on this
frequency
891 TP-Mix An anonymous collection of weak TP stations drowning each
other out
927 China (presumed) Weak to fair Chinese program fading in and out
repeatedly
936 China (presumed) Slightly stronger than 927 with Chinese speech at
1318
972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Weaker than usual with Korean program at
1337
1035 China (presumed) Fair-good Chinese speech and music for most of
morning
1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Good signals (best of season) with Japanese
language
external program at 1335
1053 Korean Jammer Not as vibrant as usual this morning, but no TP
co-channels
1134 TP-Mix A typical snarl of JOQR and KBS at good strength around
1338
1377 China (presumed) In and out with poor to fair audio for most of
morning
1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Good strength with Japanese religious program
at 1306
1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Fair Asiatic language audio around 1302
1593 China (presumed) Threshold audio with deep fades for most of
morning

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock