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Oklahoma TP's 9-23-10

bbwrwy
 

Propagation condition here are unsettled this morning.

648 Weak het at 1207 UTC.

702 Trace of a het at 1151.

774 JOUB, Akita J, brief audio with deep, long fades from 1127 until sunrise at 1218.

828 Slight het at 1213 (QRM: 830-XEIK & XELK).

972 Sometimes strong het heard from 1143 (QRM: 970-KCFO). Still audible at 1221.

Usually heard Saskatchewan stations were silent. The only Canadian station audible was 990-CBW, and it had above normal QRM from XET.

Hoping you had a better night of DX,

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(Near Perry OK USA)


Re: Unid 648 recording of 9-22-10

bbwrwy
 

Gary:

Thank you for your assistance.

Richard.


Congratulations to Rick Robinson-- 25 States Received on ULR's!

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Rick Robinson of Hendersonville, North Carolina has started off the new DX Season with a bang-- qualifying for three Ultralight Award Certificates in his first application!  Rick has been awarded the 25 States Received Award, the 100 Stations Received Award, and (by logging those 100 stations within a 7 day period) has also been awarded one of the more obscure Certificates available in our program-- the 7 Day Ross Challenge Award (all in the Unlimited Class). The latter award is named for one of the Fanatic Founding Founders of our ULR movement (and my co-conspirator in the Awards Committee), Rob Ross of London, Ontario-- who shocked us all by receiving over 300 stations on a $17 barefoot Sony SRF-59 back in January of 2008.
 
Rob and I congratulate Rick on his superb DXing accomplishments, and wish him the best of luck and success as he becomes as fanatical as the rest of us in chasing DX on these thrilling little receivers!
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 
 
   An extensive group of awards certificates is available from the Ultralight MW DXing Awards Committee. Each recipient receives a digital file which may be used for electronic display or is suitable for framing when printed at 8 12" x 11" on good quality paper. Information on the Awards Program and the simple application procedures are found in the Downloads>Ultralight Files>General Information area of dxer.ca and our own file area here at ultralightdx. Applications go directly to Rob Ross com


Unid 648 recording of 9-22-10

bbwrwy
 

I've posted a clip of the unidentified audio heard on 648 kHz at 1204 UTC on 9-22-10 to the Members Sound File.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(Near Perry OK USA)


Re: Unid 648 recording of 9-22-10

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Richard,
 
Although your 648 kHz MP3 doesn't contain any ID's, you almost certainly have a recording of the Voice of Russia's Mandarin Chinese external broadcast from Razdolnoye, Russia. The station, frequency, program language and time all match up with known facts, and most west coasters would consider it a new logging. There really is no other TP possibility for the signal you recorded. Great work!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)   
 
In a message dated 9/22/2010 5:21:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richarda@... writes:

 

I've posted a clip of the unidentified audio heard on 648 kHz at 1204 UTC on 9-22-10 to the Members Sound File.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(Near Perry OK USA)



Oklahoma TP's 9-22-10

bbwrwy
 

While not quite as thrilling as yesterday, it was another decent morning for listening to TP's here. All heard using the DeBock 7.5-inch ferrite antenna plugged into a modified PL-310.

558 Unid, het at 1153, stronger after 1200 (560-KLZ QRM).

594 JOAK, Tokyo J, man talking in Japanese at 1203, fair.

648 Unid, varying het (QRM: 650-WSM & CKOM). Poor audio in unid. language at 1204, fading under 650-XETNT splash at 1209.

693 JOAB, Tokyo J, English lesson, fair-to-good at 1219 (local sunrise, 1218). Faded out at 1220.

702 Unid, het at 1124.

747 JOIB, Sapporo J, music program, Japanese //774-JOUB.

774 JOUB, Akita J, man speaking Japanese at 1125 to 1130, program featuring music at 1230, fair.

828 Probably JOBB, Osaka J, het at 1139 (unid. QRM, probably 830-XEIK).

891 Unid., trace of het mixing with Vietnamese music from 890-KTXV.

972 HLCA het at 1148.

1053 KOR jamming station, fair, no QRM.

I hope you had as good a session.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(Near Perry OK USA)


Thanks Gary

bbwrwy
 

Thank you for your kind words Gary.

I have to admit to being a lazy DXer, doing little to hear the TP's. It's simply switch on the receiver, point the antenna toward east Asia (approx. 320°), tune and listen. That's one reason ultralight radio appeals to me - it isn't complicated.

After two seasons, I've learned to check 774-JOUB first for a signal. If there's silence, it's a pretty good sign nothing will be heard. Rarely has their been anything audible if JOUB can't be heard. However, I do check a set of frequencies for any trace of something.

As to hearing 873-JOGB, this is probably the best time of year here. In a few weeks, 870-WWL will be audible past sunrise. It has a very strong signal here at night.

So far, this season has been better than the past two. I hope it continues.

Again, thanks for everything.

Richard.


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 9-22

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
It was a morning of fairly average September TP propagation here, generally following Nigel's description of the regular Asians at decent strength, but the second-tier TP stations having weaker signals. As usual, however, there were major exceptions to the script, including a strong TP mix on 1044 kHz (which Dennis also heard at Grayland, on his E100), and a bizarre S9 fade-in of 648-Voice of Russia at 1356 (after the TP propagation had apparently fizzled out, and my ICF-2010 spotting receiver had been shut off). The "best bet" Asian lineup from 639- 675 kHz (639-China, 648-VOR, 657-North Korea, 666-JOBK, and 675-Vietnam) was back to regular decent strength after some weakness yesterday, and 738-Taiwan was restored to its normal strength (along with a rough-sounding carrier).
 
1044 kHz was the most interesting frequency of the morning, as I heard (and recorded) the same strong TP mix that Dennis received at Grayland. Around 1348 there was a real battle on the frequency, apparently with both Korean and Japanese voices. The Japanese is undoubtedly CRI's foreign broadcast to Japan, but the apparent Korean was a mystery. I searched for a KBS parallel to check, but none were at decent strength at the time (972 and 1134 kHz were in fades). Dennis' Grayland report of pop Asian music mixing with China (in Japanese) on 1044 kHz gives additional evidence that this was probably the KBS station that we both heard, since Asian pop music is a standard KBS format. We probably won't ever be sure, but the 10 kw 1044 kHz KBS station would be an all-time new Ultralight TP catch, if confirmed by either of us in the future. Dennis, thanks again for your very useful Grayland reports!
 
The other strange occurrence here was a full-strength fade in of 648-VOR right after the band had apparently died at 1355 (with the back yard in full sunlight). My ICF-2010 spotting receiver had already been taken inside, and I was in the process of wrapping up when I heard booming music signals on the "barefoot" SWP, which had fortunately been left on 648 kHz. I rushed over to the 9' loop and recorded an S9 signal of Russian music, right after every TP frequency had been written off as "dead." This was bizarre enough to fully awaken any half-asleep TP-DXer.
 
The following were heard on a C.Crane SWP model (7.5" loopstick) inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop (in the back yard):
 
558  JOCR  Kobe, Japan  Fair strength with Japanese music around 1307
585  JOPG  Kushiro, Japan  Fair-poor with deep fades around 1309, // 594
594  JOAK  Tokyo, Japan  Good strength Japanese conversation at 1308
603  HLSA  Namyang, S. Korea  Fair KBS music program w/CC QRM, 1311
639  CNR1  (China)  Fair to good music and Chinese speech at 1319
648  VOR  Razdolnoye, Russia  Good Chinese program signals, then weird
           S9 fade-in after band was "dead"  http://www.mediafire.com/?tbw4cx2z0wfgm7d 
657  Pyongyang BS, N. Korea Angry shouts from YL (?) back at full strength
666  JOBK  Osaka, Japan  Fair-good for most of morning with NHK1 talk
675  VOV  Hanoi, Vietnam  Good strength In and out with Vietnamese talk
738  BEL2  Penghu, Taiwan  Good Chinese pop music signals o/KK at 1332
747  JOIB  Sapporo, Japan  Strong Japanese talk over KXL splatter, 1318
756  CNR1  (China)  Fair strength at 1333 with Chinese music program
774  JOUB  Akita, Japan Good strength but no match for KTTH splatter
828  JOBB  Osaka, Japan  Radio English Conversation program at fair-good
            strength around 1326  http://www.mediafire.com/?28mtse9kz7e7m08
891  JOHK  Sendai, Japan  Poor-fair Japanese talk program at 1335, // 594
972  HLCA  Dangjin, S. Korea  Fair Korean music program around 1320
1035  CNR1 (China)  Good strength speech and music but deep fades, 1345
1044  TP-Mix  A strong mix of Japanese (from CRI) and apparent Korean at
            1348; KBS // not available to check at the time, but apparent music
            at other times  http://www.mediafire.com/?eu4tqayzt6164or
1053  Korean Jammer  Weaker than usual this morning, with CC competition
1053  UnID Chinese  Back with the "restaurant music," in and out at fair level
            (thanks to Dennis for his Grayland report on this ID-adverse station)
1134  TP-Mix  Standard September shootout of JOQR and KBS at good level
1566  HLAZ  Jeju, S. Korea  Fair-good with Japanese religious program, 1301
1575  VOA  Ban Rassom, Thailand  Asiatic language program at poor level, 1300
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock 
 
 
               


TP's for 09/22/10 Ultralight Grayland, WA

Vroomski@...
 

Listened from 1124-1435 utc. After reading Gary's description of 1053 kHz in yesterdays
posting, I believe now that I heard the station that plays the restaurant style music.
Listening to the 10/04/09 recording, it sounds like the music I heard yesterday and this
morning on 1053. Thanks Gary for posting the clip.

This morning it was slow early. Stations improved from 1330-1430 utc. Again lower channels
far better than the upper channels. Only one TP heard above 1323 kHz, and that was HLAZ 1566
with a good signal briefly, then faded to weak. Placing the twin ferrite antenna outside away
from the cottage was better than with it inside. Placed it on a piece of fire wood. Found a pvc
stand that is around 4' tall and will try and strap the antenna to this stand for tomorrows listening.
With Summer gone and Fall here, conditions hopefully will improve.


520 UNKNOWN,1159 beacon with Morse code INE fair.
567 JAPAN, JOIK 1322 fair with woman/man in Japanese.
603 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, HLSA 1327 fair with woman talking.
639 CHINA, CRN1 1335 weak to fair with man in Chinese.
648 RUSSIA, 1331 fair with man talking. Listed in PALs as VOA Korean. 1333 good signal.
657 DPR OF KOREA, 1350 fair with stern talking man.
666 JAPAN, JOBK 1339 fair with man interviewing another man in Japanese.
675 VIETNAM,? VOV1 1341 weak, but steady signal with woman in Asian language.
693 JAPAN, JOAB NHK2 1225 fair with spatter. English Radio Conversation program.
702 JAPAN, JO?? NHK2 1348 one of the two NHK2's listed. Fair and // 774.
720 UNKNOWN, 1348 woman in Asian language over/under domestic stations.
774 JAPAN, JOUB NHK2 1124 good with man in Japanese with a little splatter.
783 UNKNOWN, 1354 two very weak stations, one with woman in Asian language.
792 UNKNOWN, 1401 weak with man in Asian language.
828 JAPAN, JOBB NHK2 1137 fair with Japanese and some splatter
828 UNKNOWN, 1404 station under JOBB. Weak signal with man in Asian language.
864 UNKNOWN, 1408 weak with man in Asian language and KPAM splatter.
972 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, HLCA 1410 Great signal, no splatter at all. Two men talking in Korean.
1044 CHINA, CRI 1234 man in Japanese over unknown station.
1044 UNKNOWN, 1234 under or equal at times with China. Pop Asian music.
1053 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, 1223 jammer on top of channel.
1053 CHINA?, 1219 fair for a while with music, then under jammer.
1053 JAPAN, JOLB 1415 fair with man/woman in Japanese.
1134 CHINA, CRN1 1419 good signal with man yelling with music in background.
1143 JAPAN, JOBR 1422-1427 fair man in Japanese and music between talk.
1287 JAPAN, JOHR 1430 weak with woman in Japanese.
1323 CHINA, CRI 1317 fair with man in Asian language.
1566 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, HLAZ 1309 good signal for a minute, then faded.

Best Regards,

Dennis Vroom
Grayland, WA
Eton e100
Twin ferrite antenna
Solar Indices SF=85 A-4 K=0
Local Sunrise 1403 utc
Local Sunset 0214 utc


Re: Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10

pianoplayer88key
 

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--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hello Richard,

Once again, you did a fantastic job receiving the Asiatic stations on your
PL-310, both barefoot, and with your external 7.5" loopstick.
Congratulations especially on your new logging of 873-JOGB, which shows once again how
propagation can reward those ULR-DXers who go all out to "push their luck!"

John B. would have been very proud of your success in receiving TP's in
Oklahoma, which he seemed to think was pretty challenging, even with table
receivers. To give you a few additional facts on your TP catches, I've
written a few comments below:

.

558 Unid. het in KLVI 650 slop at 1134 UTC.
<< Likely JOCR in Kobe (no NHK parallel), but rarely HLQH (towards late
season) >>

567 JOIK, Sapporo J, fair signal, man talking in Japanese at 1202.
<< One of the less common NHK big guns on the west coast >>

594 JOAK, Tokyo J, fair //567 at 1204.
<< Depending on propagation, one of the Japanese best bets >>
What about when you have an IBOC local in southern Calif on 600 whose IBOC sideband when tuned to 588 kHz is 42dBu on a stock PL-380, and whose transmitter is to the west?


648 Unid. het sometimes strong between 1125 and 1208.
<< Undoubtedly VOR, in the Russian Far East. Has many foreign language
programs, but variable sigs >>

666 Probably JOBK with a trace of het at 1205.
<< JOBK is a "big gun" somewhat less impressive than others; rarely mixes
with Russia on west coast >>

693 JOAB, Tokyo J, good with NHK2 English Lesson at 1215. Despite local
sunrise at 1217, the signal did not completely fade out until 1225.
<< Another NHK "big gun" not quite in the same class as JOAK, JOIB, JOUB
and JOBB >>

702 Unid. het audible from 1139 to 1214.
<< Check for a ragged, off-frequency carrier (above 702). This is usually
North Korea >>

747 JOIB, Sapporo J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1149.
<< One of the best Japanese signals overall >>
Even if it's only 13kHz removed from a 50kW local 7 miles north/northwest, which desenses my PL-380 to the tune of 41-43dBu at night, and 7kHz above a blowtorch IBOC KCBS out of San Fran?


774 JOUB, Akita J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1110.
<< The "Topgun" of all the NHK boomers, and the most commonly reported
"First Japan" >>
A couple weeks ago or so I almost thought I may have had this one after KFMB-760 powered down for the day at local sunrise (reducing the desense). However, all I really could confirm was the soft mute briefly turning off while tuned to that frequency. I never heard more than about a second or two of audio, though, and what was there may have been confused with adjacent-channel interference.


828 JOBB, Osaka J, poor signal //774 at 1152.
<< Another top-tier NHK big gun, depending on propagation >>

873 JOGB, Kumamoto J (500kW @ 10820km/6723mi), poor //774 & 828 at 1155.
First time reception on ULR, station #771, Japan #9.
<< Great catch; definitely not one of the stronger NHK stations on the
west coast>>

972 Probably HLCA, with het heard on barefoot PL-310 at 1113.
<< 972 is almost always HLCA on the west coast, but Chinese competition
shows up sometimes in Nov. >>

Best of DX.
<< This really is the Best of Asiatic DX ever logged on ULR's from
Oklahoma!>>

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'36"W
(near Perry OK USA)


Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Richard,
 
Once again, you did a fantastic job receiving the Asiatic stations on your PL-310, both barefoot, and with your external 7.5" loopstick. Congratulations especially on your new logging of 873-JOGB, which shows once again how propagation can reward those ULR-DXers who go all out to "push their luck!"
 
John B. would have been very proud of your success in receiving TP's in Oklahoma, which he seemed to think was pretty challenging, even with table receivers. To give you a few additional facts on your TP catches, I've written a few comments below:
 
 .

558 Unid. het in KLVI 650 slop at 1134 UTC. 
<< Likely JOCR in Kobe (no NHK parallel), but rarely HLQH (towards late season) >> 

567 JOIK, Sapporo J, fair signal, man talking in Japanese at 1202.
<< One of the less common NHK big guns on the west coast >>
 
594 JOAK, Tokyo J, fair //567 at 1204.
<< Depending on propagation, one of the Japanese best bets >>

648 Unid. het sometimes strong between 1125 and 1208.
<< Undoubtedly VOR, in the Russian Far East. Has many foreign language programs, but variable sigs >>
 
666 Probably JOBK with a trace of het at 1205.
<< JOBK is a "big gun" somewhat less impressive than others; rarely mixes with Russia on west coast >>
 
693 JOAB, Tokyo J, good with NHK2 English Lesson at 1215. Despite local sunrise at 1217, the signal did not completely fade out until 1225.
<< Another NHK "big gun" not quite in the same class as JOAK, JOIB, JOUB and JOBB >>

702 Unid. het audible from 1139 to 1214.
<< Check for a ragged, off-frequency carrier (above 702). This is usually North Korea >>
747 JOIB, Sapporo J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1149.
<< One of the best Japanese signals overall >>
 
774 JOUB, Akita J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1110.
<< The "Topgun" of all the NHK boomers, and the most commonly reported "First Japan" >>

828 JOBB, Osaka J, poor signal //774 at 1152.
<< Another top-tier NHK big gun, depending on propagation >>
 
873 JOGB, Kumamoto J (500kW @ 10820km/6723mi), poor //774 & 828 at 1155. First time reception on ULR, station #771, Japan #9.
<< Great catch; definitely not one of the stronger NHK stations on the west coast>>
 
972 Probably HLCA, with het heard on barefoot PL-310 at 1113.
<< 972 is almost always HLCA on the west coast, but Chinese competition shows up sometimes in Nov. >>
Best of DX.
<< This really is the Best of Asiatic DX ever logged on ULR's from Oklahoma!>>

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'36"W
(near Perry OK USA)


Re: PVC Loop Antenna

Gary DeBock
 

Hi John,
 
Kevin gave some good suggestions about the inductive coupling of ULR's to the tuned passive loops.
 
I should also add that you can experiment a little with the separation of the radio from the loop to obtain the best gain results (though maximum inductive coupling). With larger loops the separation distance needs to be increased for best gain results, so that with the 9' sided model the best separation distance is about 2 feet. A loop of 25" should have an optimal separation distance of around 4- 6 inches, but you can experiment for best results. Good luck with DXing with your completed PVC loop, and thanks again for your interest in the project. 
 
73, Gary  
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/21/2010 7:27:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, john445@... writes:

 

Hi Kevin, thanks for the information. I will certainly let everyone know how the new loop works.

John

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Kevin S <satya@...> wrote:
 

Hi John:

I have found that the orientation in Gary's picture works best if there is
a pest station just below the station of interest, since the coupling of
the radio and loop place a null just below the tuned frequency. The radio
can also be held on the broadside of the loop, again a few inches away;
this orientation works best if there is a pest station just above the
station of interest. Generally, the further the separation between loop
and radio, the tighter the selectivity (but gradually lower gain levels),
so it is often worth experimenting with depending on the situation.

Have fun with your new loop, and let us know how it works!

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA



> Gary, thanks so much for the additional information which clears things
> up. Michelle and I had a a very nice day putting the loop together. The
> pictures you attached answers my questions. Thanks again!
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 12:14 AM, D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Sorry to have overlooked your second question, about the radio's best
>> inductive coupling position. The photo posted at
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ogxuzlvovxkxdwt should show you the proper
>> position for best inductive coupling, with the radio's flat side
>> directed at the DX station's location. The edge of the loop (and side of
>> the radio) should be directed at any pest station, for best nulling.
>>
>> 73, Gary
>>
>> In a message dated 9/20/2010 2:20:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> john445@... writes:
>>
>> Gary:
>>
>> Do you have larger or finer detailed picture of the second picture in
>> the row of four pictures on the page that has Final Electrical Assembly?
>>
>> My wife and I built the 25.5" loop this weekend. We are still working on
>> getting the slack out and then adding the capacitor. I am not
>> understanding how to connect up the capacitor.
>>
>> Also, where to you hold the radio itself when using the loop?
>>
>> Your instructions are easy to follow for the assembly of the loop.
>>
>> Thanks for putting the instructions together.
>>
>> John Mosman
>> WPE9GIZ
>> Mt. Prospect, IL
>>
>>
>>
>




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Re: Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 9-21

pianoplayer88key
 

So THAT must be why I never see you report reception on certain frequ--- OOOH!! Hold it a second!! If I understand correctly, the upper IBOC of 850 should only occupy 860 to 865 or so, with the IBOC carrier around 862. Therefore, shouldn't it be possible to hear the station on 873, and with a narrow bandwidth hear something on 855, or 864 by tuning off a bit? Or is the local pest so strong that the IBOC carrier is producing a RSSI,SNR of 99,25 on your un-DeBocked PL-380, with 50,00 desense throughout the LW and SW bands, and harmonics touching 30dBu in the FM band?
For my location, I wouldn't expect to hear any TPs using my stock PL-380 on 540 (XESURF, ~48dBu), 639 (KFI-640, IBOC, ~42dBu), 720 (KDWN, ~52dBu), 801 (XESPN-800, ~50dBu), 810 (KGO, ~48dBu), 909 (KECR-910, 63+dBu), 1071 (KNX-1070, IBOC, ~50dBu), 1089 (XEPRS-1090, ~50dBu), 1170 (KCBQ, ~57dBu), 1269 (XEAZ-1270, ~48dBu), 1359 (KLSD-1360, ~56dBu), or 1530 (KFBK, ~52+dBu). Would the refiltered SWP have a chance at hearing TPs with full quieting and no splatter on those frequencies? As it is, EVERYTHING is wiped out here on a stock PL-380. I can't even hear anything on 756 or 765 due to blowtorch 50kW KFMB-760, or 594 or 603 due to 5kW IBOC (42dBu) KOGO-600 (63dBu), even in 1kHz BW, and 1566, 1575 & 1593 get slopped by KMIK-1580 (sometimes 62dBu) and its IBOC.

Also, is there any desense on your PL-380 around your strongest locals (i.e. RSSI over 15dBu off-frequency when no station or splatter is audible)? If so, approximately how much? Here I get ~43,00 in the vicinity of KFMB-760, ~37,00 near KECR-910, and ~41,00 near KSDO-1130. Otherwise, the middle of the band is generally 30,00, dropping off some at the band edges. At my grandparents' house it's typically 50,00 through the 1200s to 1400s, with 49,00 extending from around the 900s or so to the top.

Are there any high power, low-band Japanese stations with transmitters within a km or two of the east coast there? If so, I wonder if it might be possible to hear daytime groundwave TP DX with the 9' loop at Grayland or Seaside? If I can hear puny little 50kW KALL-700 from 626 miles away over land using only a SAT + PL-380 in the face of 41,00 desense from nulled XEWW-690, I would expect SOME groundwave oughtta make it across the Pacific.

If I homebrew my own ultralight (something I think I may be forced to do in order to have a chance at the domestic daylight several-hundred-mile DX I was wanting in the first place), could it still count as an ultralight? Actually it's not primarily for DX, except that the programs I want to hear require digging stations out from under atmospheric noise and heavy splatter from 250 to 5,000 mV/m 10kHz-adjacent locals. To keep costs down, it would be mediumwave only, otherwise I'd want continuous 150kHz to 30MHz coverage, as well as expanded FM, with the extra bands being every bit as good as AM. For example, hearing Clark Howard live (1-4pm ET, 10am-1pm PT, M-F) will be a challenge, as other than WSB-750 Atlanta, GA, I don't know what closer station carries that program live. There are others too, like Radio Disney, for example (KDIS is barely readable during the day thanks to local KSDO desensing or splattering (in that case with my previous radio it IS totally unreadable), and KMIK is frequently plagued by co-channel QRM at night.)

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hello All,

Asian propagation was fairly typical this morning for late September, with
the Japanese "big guns" producing vibrant audio, and many weaker Chinese
stations modestly rising above the noise level. The other countries were not
stellar performers, and normally potent 648, 657, 675 and 738 kHz (Russia,
N. Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan) did not reach their typical strength this
morning.

Weak to fair Chinese audio was still spreading out over the band on
various frequencies, although it was far from stable. The UnID Chinese on 603 kHz
had a slight edge over HLSA, and 756-CNR1 was at a decent level. Probably
the most interesting frequency of the morning was 1053 kHz, on which three
TP's fought it out in a lively competition. Whereas Dennis (in Grayland
with his E100 and Twin Ferrite antenna) had the Korean Jammer over the Voice
of National Salvation, neither one of those stations were major players here
in Puyallup this morning. The 1053 mix here featured Japanese (from a
presumed JOAR) fighting it out with the UnID Chinese music station around 1337,
as the Jammer came in a weak third. Congratulations again to Richard Allen
for his amazing PL-310 Ultralight receptions in Oklahoma, including his new
logging of 873-JOGB. That station usually is taken out here by huge IBOC
slop from a local on 850.

The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick),
inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back yard:

558 JOCR Kobe, Japan Good signals with Japanese music at 1307
585 JOPG Kushiro, Japan Weak at best this morning with NHK1 talk
594 JOAK Tokyo, Japan Strong with Japanese interview program, 1312
603 TP-Mix The UnID Chinese was stronger at 1327 than the Korean music
from HLSA in this fair mix
_http://www.mediafire.com/?53f6fmybzbm4sqo_ (http://www.mediafire.com/?53f6fmybzbm4sqo)
639 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Fair to good with Chinese music, 1342
648 VOR Razdolnoye, Russia Weak during Chinese program all morning
657 Pyongyang BS, N. Korea Weak to fair with Korean tirades at 1322
666 JOBK Osaka, Japan Good Japanese speech at 1332, // 594
675 VOV Hanoi, Vietnam Losing the propagation battle from 1300-1345
702 UnID Strong ragged carrier (NK?) no match for KIRO splatter at 1333
738 BEL2 Penghu, Taiwan Anemic Chinese music signal at 1340, all alone
747 JOIB Sapporo, Japan Best of the NHK signals this morning at 1321
756 CNR1 (Many stations in China) Good audio in and out from 1315-1345
774 JOUB Akita, Japan Fair English conversation program at 1331
828 JOBB Osaka, Japan Good NHK2 signals on clear frequency at 1345
891 JOHK Sendai, Japan Weak Japanese talk but all alone at 1305, // 594
927 China (presumed) Threshold audio at best this morning; poor at 1316
936 China (presumed) Poor Chinese audio with deep fades around 1317
972 HLCA Dangjin, S. Korea Fair-good Korean talk and music, 1347
1035 China (presumed) Fair-poor Chinese music program at 1318
1044 CRI Jiangsu, China Japanese program in and out of audio at 1319
1053 JOAR (presumed) This frequency was a real carnival this morning.
Apparent Japanese from a presumed JOAR was dominant over UnID
Chinese at 1335 in a fair mix _http://www.mediafire
.com/?23xxa5vls816iw5_ (http://www.mediafire.com/?23xxa5vls816iw5)
but the Chinese soon won out at 1337, with nice music at some
strength
before the Jammer returned
_http://www.mediafire.com/?b2pbycecrmucygl_ (http://www.mediafire.com/?b2pbycecrmucygl)
1134 TP-Mix Another good-strength snarl of JOQR and KBS around 1350
1377 CNR1 Chinese speech and music in and out; occasionally at fair
level
1566 HLAZ Jeju, S. Korea Japanese religious program barely audible at
1301
1575 VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand Threshold audio Asiatic language program
1593 China (presumed) Strong carrier with very weak audio around 1352

The UnID Chinese on 1053 KHz regularly provides some fine music during TP
season here, although never any ID clues :-) This "restaurant music"
recording from the station (at good strength) was made on October 4th last year
on the 9' loop _http://www.mediafire.com/?notmfgbnjmu_
(http://www.mediafire.com/?notmfgbnjmu)

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock


Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 9-21

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
Asian propagation was fairly typical this morning for late September, with the Japanese "big guns" producing vibrant audio, and many weaker Chinese stations modestly rising above the noise level. The other countries were not stellar performers, and normally potent 648, 657, 675 and 738 kHz (Russia, N. Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan) did not reach their typical strength this morning.
 
Weak to fair Chinese audio was still spreading out over the band on various frequencies, although it was far from stable. The UnID Chinese on 603 kHz had a slight edge over HLSA, and 756-CNR1 was at a decent level. Probably the most interesting frequency of the morning was 1053 kHz, on which three TP's fought it out in a lively competition. Whereas Dennis (in Grayland with his E100 and Twin Ferrite antenna) had the Korean Jammer over the Voice of National Salvation, neither one of those stations were major players here in Puyallup this morning. The 1053 mix here featured Japanese (from a presumed JOAR) fighting it out with the UnID Chinese music station around 1337, as the Jammer came in a weak third. Congratulations again to Richard Allen for his amazing PL-310 Ultralight receptions in Oklahoma, including his new logging of 873-JOGB. That station usually is taken out here by huge IBOC slop from a local on 850.
 
The following were received on a C.Crane SWP Slider model (7.5" loopstick), inductively coupled to a 9' sided PVC tuned passive loop in the back yard:
 
558  JOCR  Kobe, Japan  Good signals with Japanese music at 1307
585  JOPG  Kushiro, Japan  Weak at best this morning with NHK1 talk
594  JOAK  Tokyo, Japan  Strong with Japanese interview program, 1312
603  TP-Mix  The UnID Chinese was stronger at 1327 than the Korean music
          from HLSA in this fair mix http://www.mediafire.com/?53f6fmybzbm4sqo 
639  CNR1  (Many stations in China) Fair to good with Chinese music, 1342
648  VOR  Razdolnoye, Russia  Weak during Chinese program all morning
657  Pyongyang BS, N. Korea  Weak to fair with Korean tirades at 1322
666  JOBK  Osaka, Japan  Good Japanese speech at 1332, // 594
675  VOV  Hanoi, Vietnam  Losing the propagation battle from 1300-1345
702  UnID  Strong ragged carrier (NK?) no match for KIRO splatter at 1333
738  BEL2  Penghu, Taiwan  Anemic Chinese music signal at 1340, all alone
747  JOIB  Sapporo, Japan  Best of the NHK signals this morning at 1321
756  CNR1  (Many stations in China)  Good audio in and out from 1315-1345
774  JOUB  Akita, Japan  Fair English conversation program at 1331
828  JOBB  Osaka, Japan  Good NHK2 signals on clear frequency at 1345
891  JOHK  Sendai, Japan  Weak Japanese talk but all alone at 1305, // 594
927  China  (presumed) Threshold audio at best this morning; poor at 1316
936  China  (presumed) Poor Chinese audio with deep fades around 1317
972  HLCA  Dangjin, S. Korea  Fair-good Korean talk and music, 1347
1035  China  (presumed)  Fair-poor Chinese music program at 1318
1044  CRI  Jiangsu, China  Japanese program in and out of audio at 1319
1053  JOAR (presumed)  This frequency was a real carnival this morning.
          Apparent Japanese from a presumed JOAR was dominant over UnID
          Chinese at 1335 in a fair mix http://www.mediafire.com/?23xxa5vls816iw5
          but the Chinese soon won out at 1337, with nice music at some strength
          before the Jammer returned http://www.mediafire.com/?b2pbycecrmucygl
1134  TP-Mix  Another good-strength snarl of JOQR and KBS around 1350
1377  CNR1  Chinese speech and music in and out; occasionally at fair level 
1566  HLAZ  Jeju, S. Korea  Japanese religious program barely audible at 1301
1575  VOA Ban Rassom, Thailand  Threshold audio Asiatic language program
1593  China  (presumed)  Strong carrier with very weak audio around 1352
 
The UnID Chinese on 1053 KHz regularly provides some fine music during TP season here, although never any ID clues :-)  This "restaurant music" recording from the station (at good strength) was made on October 4th last year on the 9' loop http://www.mediafire.com/?notmfgbnjmu
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock
 
   


Re: A bit OT :) ferrite antenna screening

Rik
 

That is very interesting. I had asked about screening ferrite antennas here awhile back, but didn't get much of an answer. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "huelbe_garcia@..." <huelbe_garcia@...> wrote:

Hello!

I think we already talked on this topic (not sure), but here's an amazing article from PA2OHH Onno (from Netherlands) on ferrite-based loop antennas screening.

http://www.qsl.net/pa2ohh/07fer.htm

To be honest, I can understand the concept of the aluminium "U" covering the the ferrite antenna (it's similar to the shield of the shielded loop). But I'm still trying to figure out why flat-cables outperformed Au.

Cheers!

Huelbe.


Re: Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10

bbwrwy
 

Thank you Dennis.

Until this morning, JOGB was the only super-powered NHK station I'd not received here. At 10820km it is my longest distance reception of a medium wave signal, beating HLCA by 140 km.

After reading an article in RADEX (Dec. 1938 issue) about receiving Asiatic signals, and I've concluded I'm one of the "few, favorably located Central DXers" cited. Much of the advice from those ancient articles applies today as then.

Good DX hunting to you.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'36"W
(near Perry OK USA)

--- In ultralightdx@..., Vroomski@... wrote:

Richard,

Congratulations on your great morning of TP Dxing from Oklahoma. Your reception of
JOGB is amazing. Being in Southern Japan it's difficult to hear at my home location
in Salmon Creek, WA which is about 80 miles from the ocean. JOUB 774 was peaking on
the coast around the time you heard them in Oklahoma.

Best Regards,

Dennis Vroom,
Grayland, WA


Re: Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10

Kevin S <satya@...>
 

Kudos as well! I am amazed at what you are hearing so far inland.

This fall, I have noticed that TP signals have often been best when I
first start listening (generally around 1200-1230 UTC at the earliest) and
that they gradually fade towards sunset (LSR is around 1345-1400 in
September), with essentially no sunrise enhancement. Oiks - it loks like
I need to get up even earlier!

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA



Richard,

Congratulations on your great morning of TP Dxing from Oklahoma. Your
reception of
JOGB is amazing. Being in Southern Japan it's difficult to hear at my
home location
in Salmon Creek, WA which is about 80 miles from the ocean. JOUB 774 was
peaking on
the coast around the time you heard them in Oklahoma.

Best Regards,

Dennis Vroom,
Grayland, WA




----- Original Message -----
From: "RichardA" <richarda@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:44:53 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10






Good morning:

And, it was a good one for hearing the Japanese powerhouses in north
central Oklahoma. I started out by hearing fair audio from JOUB 774 at
1110 UTC on a barefoot PL-310. I switched over to the modified PL-310 and
7.5" loopstick and was able to hear most of the NHK superstations,
including a new one, until past sunrise.

558 Unid. het in KLVI 650 slop at 1134 UTC.
567 JOIK, Sapporo J, fair signal, man talking in Japanese at 1202.
594 JOAK, Tokyo J, fair //567 at 1204.
648 Unid. het sometimes strong between 1125 and 1208.
666 Probably JOBK with a trace of het at 1205.
693 JOAB, Tokyo J, good with NHK2 English Lesson at 1215. Despite local
sunrise at 1217, the signal did not completely fade out until 1225.
702 Unid. het audible from 1139 to 1214.
747 JOIB, Sapporo J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1149.
774 JOUB, Akita J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1110.
828 JOBB, Osaka J, poor signal //774 at 1152.
873 JOGB, Kumamoto J (500kW @ 10820km/6723mi), poor //774 & 828 at 1155.
First time reception on ULR, station #771, Japan #9.
972 Probably HLCA, with het heard on barefoot PL-310 at 1113.

Best of DX.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'36"W
(near Perry OK USA)




Re: Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10

Vroomski@...
 

Richard,

Congratulations on your great morning of TP Dxing from Oklahoma. Your reception of
JOGB is amazing. Being in Southern Japan it's difficult to hear at my home location
in Salmon Creek, WA which is about 80 miles from the ocean. JOUB 774 was peaking on
the coast around the time you heard them in Oklahoma.

Best Regards,

Dennis Vroom,
Grayland, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: "RichardA" <richarda@...>
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:44:53 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] Oklahoma TP's 9-21-10






Good morning:

And, it was a good one for hearing the Japanese powerhouses in north central Oklahoma. I started out by hearing fair audio from JOUB 774 at 1110 UTC on a barefoot PL-310. I switched over to the modified PL-310 and 7.5" loopstick and was able to hear most of the NHK superstations, including a new one, until past sunrise.

558 Unid. het in KLVI 650 slop at 1134 UTC.
567 JOIK, Sapporo J, fair signal, man talking in Japanese at 1202.
594 JOAK, Tokyo J, fair //567 at 1204.
648 Unid. het sometimes strong between 1125 and 1208.
666 Probably JOBK with a trace of het at 1205.
693 JOAB, Tokyo J, good with NHK2 English Lesson at 1215. Despite local sunrise at 1217, the signal did not completely fade out until 1225.
702 Unid. het audible from 1139 to 1214.
747 JOIB, Sapporo J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1149.
774 JOUB, Akita J, fair to good, Japanese language at 1110.
828 JOBB, Osaka J, poor signal //774 at 1152.
873 JOGB, Kumamoto J (500kW @ 10820km/6723mi), poor //774 & 828 at 1155. First time reception on ULR, station #771, Japan #9.
972 Probably HLCA, with het heard on barefoot PL-310 at 1113.

Best of DX.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'36"W
(near Perry OK USA)


TP's for 09/21/10 Grayland, WA

Vroomski@...
 

Listened from 1205-1438. Spending 3 days here at the Ocean Spray Beach resort in
Grayland, WA. Thursday will head for the IRCA convention in Seaside hosted by
Patrick Martin. The Eton E100 was used for the loggings below. Brought the C Crane
twin ferrite antenna and it out performed the Space Magnet. DX inside the cottage
this morning. I have 50' of cable so I can have the antenna outside, and be inside
tuning the antenna tomorrow morning. The Palstar R-30 cc is on the night stand in
the bedroom connected to around 150' of wire on the ground somewhat NW. A little after
1100 utc JOUB 774 was S-9+10db with a nice splatter free signal. Signal dropped after
1130 utc. Upper band was poor, with the exception of HLAZ. Can't even hear VOA Thailand
here in Grayland.

558 JAPAN, JOCR 1408 fair and fading.
567 JAPAN, JOIK NHK1 1231 good with woman/man in Japanese.
594 JAPAN, JOAK NHK1 1224 good with man in Japanese and a hum noise.
603 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, HLSA 1405 weak with fading.
657 DPR OF KOREA, 1401 good women comrades singing.
666 JAPAN, JOBK NHK1 1359 fair with Japanese.
693 JAPAN, JOAB NHK2 1219 fair and a little splatter. 1357 Strong.
729 JAPAN, JOCK NHK1 1355 fair with man in Japanese.
747 JAPAN, JOIB NHK2 1216 fair with some KXL splatter.
774 JAPAN, JOUB NHK2 1205 good with man in Japanese. 1430 gone.
783 UNKNOWN, 1350 poor signal with woman talking.
828 JAPAN, JOBB NHK2 1211 good with English Radio Conversation Program. Still
around with fair signal at 1431.
828 UNKNOWN, 1347 station underneath JOBB with woman in Asian language.
837 UNKNOWN, 1345 weak with woman talking.
873 JAPAN, JOGB NHK2 1215 fair with above program.
945 UNKNOWN, 1339 weak with woman in Asian language.
963 UNKNOWN, 1329 weak with woman in Asian language.
972 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, HLCA 1326 fair with two men in Asian language. 1425 fair signal.
981 UNKNOWN, 1424 very weak fading signal.
1026 CHINA? 1322 weak signal man in Chinese?
1035 UNKNOWNS, 1317 two Asian stations poor to weak. Japan, China?
1044 CHINA, CRI 1313-1315 fair, soft spoken man in Japanese
1053 KOREA'S 1311 jammer over Voice of National Salvation.
1062 UNKNOWN, 1419 weak signal with Asian talk.
1134 JAPAN, JOAR 1306-1308 fair with Japanese.
1566 REPUBLIC OF KOREA, 1235 good with choir music.

Best Regards,

Dennis Vroom,
Grayland, WA
Eton E100 & Space Magnet antenna
Solar Indices SF=83 A=2 K=1
Local Sunrise 1402 utc


Re: PVC Loop Antenna

john445 <john445@...>
 

Hi Kevin, thanks for the information. I will certainly let everyone know how the new loop works.

John


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Kevin S <satya@...> wrote:
 

Hi John:

I have found that the orientation in Gary's picture works best if there is
a pest station just below the station of interest, since the coupling of
the radio and loop place a null just below the tuned frequency. The radio
can also be held on the broadside of the loop, again a few inches away;
this orientation works best if there is a pest station just above the
station of interest. Generally, the further the separation between loop
and radio, the tighter the selectivity (but gradually lower gain levels),
so it is often worth experimenting with depending on the situation.

Have fun with your new loop, and let us know how it works!

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA



> Gary, thanks so much for the additional information which clears things
> up. Michelle and I had a a very nice day putting the loop together. The
> pictures you attached answers my questions. Thanks again!
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 12:14 AM, D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Sorry to have overlooked your second question, about the radio's best
>> inductive coupling position. The photo posted at
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?ogxuzlvovxkxdwt should show you the proper
>> position for best inductive coupling, with the radio's flat side
>> directed at the DX station's location. The edge of the loop (and side of
>> the radio) should be directed at any pest station, for best nulling.
>>
>> 73, Gary
>>
>> In a message dated 9/20/2010 2:20:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> john445@... writes:
>>
>> Gary:
>>
>> Do you have larger or finer detailed picture of the second picture in
>> the row of four pictures on the page that has Final Electrical Assembly?
>>
>> My wife and I built the 25.5" loop this weekend. We are still working on
>> getting the slack out and then adding the capacitor. I am not
>> understanding how to connect up the capacitor.
>>
>> Also, where to you hold the radio itself when using the loop?
>>
>> Your instructions are easy to follow for the assembly of the loop.
>>
>> Thanks for putting the instructions together.
>>
>> John Mosman
>> WPE9GIZ
>> Mt. Prospect, IL
>>
>>
>>
>




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