Re: Eton E5
jerrysteck
thanks all for the replies and tips--i was pretty sure of the answer; just checking to make sure--Jim i do need to check the file and kinda get my feet on the ground here--i have been slowly easing into ultralighting and need to become acquainted with the process and rules--
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thanks once more to all jerry =========================================================
to have more gizmos than a typical ULR--i have one and am just curious
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Re: Si4734 Hardware and Software Guides
Roy <roy.dyball@...>
Thank you for the complement Phil. In the early days of getting my interface working I looked at using RS232 to keep the cost down. An early interface I constructed used the URAT output lines of an FTDI chip by bit banging the normal RS232 lines in an I2C two wire configuration (SDIO SCLK), the trouble was it was too slow and I could not get status information back quick enough by polling. The other problem was I had to convert my interface to the 3 wire legacy control interface from I2C because that is what Tecsun uses in our little radios and I wanted the ability to remove the radio from the computer and be able to go on using it with the changes just made (soft mute off different filter). The 3 wire (SDIO SCLK SEN) control interface opened up a big can of worms because it uses a non standard nine bit control word. I then discovered I could use the advanced bit banging functions of the FTDI chip to construct a non standard nine bit word and get my I/O routines running fast enough to produce good results. By this time it was clear to me that RS-232 would not do the job. Scott has a superior interface to mine in that he is using a Si Labs C8051F321 MCU this allows him to tristate the control lines making a switch not necessary to unhook the radios controller. Also by using an MCU it takes a huge load of the computer because the I/O to the Si4734 is done locally by the MCU. Another good feature is it can store command sequences that can be run without a computer say at power up or at the press of a button. Cheers Roy.
--- In ultralightdx@..., "just_rtfm" wrote:
> > > > howdy Roy! > > thank you. i need to add that info. my original plan was RS232 control. i recently saw your USB/G8 work... excellent job! > > regards, > phil :) >
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New file uploaded to ultralightdx
ultralightdx@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ultralightdx group. File : /Members Sound Files/PL380 6 4 3 2 kHz XEPE.mp3 Uploaded by : tonyzl <tonyzl@...> Description : Demo TecsunPL380 DSP steps 6 4 3 2 1 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ultralightdx/files/Members%20Sound%20Files/PL380%206%204%203%202%20%20%20kHz%20XEPE.mp3 To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlfiles Regards, tonyzl <tonyzl@...>
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Re: Si4734 Hardware and Software Guides
just_rtfm
howdy Roy!
thank you. i need to add that info. my original plan was RS232 control. i recently saw your USB/G8 work... excellent job! regards, phil :)
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Re: Eton E5
Gary Kinsman
The E5 is also much too large to be an ultralight.
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Re: Eton E5
jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
--- In ultralightdx@..., "jerrysteck" > > i think the answer to my upcoming query is a negative-- > having said that i will now ask: > > would an Eton E5 be considered an ULR?--it is small, but it would seem to have more gizmos than a typical ULR--i have one and am just curious about what the ruling might be-- Jerry, Head on over to the Files section on the Yahoo site, look in Section 1 Start Here for the first article, "An Introduction To Ultralight DXing.pdf." Page 1 has the criteria. The E5 apparently doesn't qualify on two counts: Cost >$100 and the inclusion of SSB. 73, Jim, KR1S http://qrp.kearman.com/
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Eton E5
jerrysteck
i think the answer to my upcoming query is a negative--
having said that i will now ask: would an Eton E5 be considered an ULR?--it is small, but it would seem to have more gizmos than a typical ULR--i have one and am just curious about what the ruling might be-- 73 jerry--k5psh
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Re: Si4734 Hardware and Software Guides
Roy <roy.dyball@...>
Hi Phil Your Ver 2 is very informative.
You might like to point out that the AM: LO frequency is 45 kHz above RF for RF frequencies < 1000 kHz and 45 kHz below RF for RF frequencies > 1000 kHz. For example, LO frequency is 945 kHz when tuning to 900 kHz. Also in Ver 40 firmware there are two more filter selections available 1.8Khz an 2.5Khz with gradual roll off, also a power line filter is available. Also some of the power up defaults have changed e.g. the soft mute with the introduction of the Ver 40 firmware (Si4734-C40).
Cheers Roy.
--- In ultralightdx@..., "just_rtfm" wrote: > > Hacking the Si4734: > Hardware (Ver 2) and Software Handbooks for Shortwave > > available at link below. error reports welcome. > http://home.comcast.net/~phils_radio_designs/index2.htm > > regards, > phil :) >
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Si4734 Hardware and Software Guides
just_rtfm
Hacking the Si4734:
Hardware (Ver 2) and Software Handbooks for Shortwave available at link below. error reports welcome. http://home.comcast.net/~phils_radio_designs/index2.htm regards, phil :)
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Re: What about Kchibo DSP KK-S500 MW FM SW
jim_kr1s <jkearman@...>
Note the trucated MW coverage: Specifications : 1. Frequency Range FM: 76-108 Mhz MW: Asia, Africa and Europe, 522-1620Khz 9KHz step United States, Canada, 520-1620KHz 10KHz step :( 73, Jim, KR1S http://qrp.kearman.com/
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Re: What about Kchibo DSP KK-S500 MW FM SW
dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
Hi gc:
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The Kchibo KK-S500 appears to be a dual conversion "regular" radio, not a DSP radio. It has synchronous detection, akin to SSB, and is fairly large, so it would therefore not qualify as an ULR. The reviews I have seen of it are fairly positive. Regards - Kevin S Bainbridge Island, WA
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Re: Montreal AM shutdowns
Jim <va3jno@...>
I am not surprised that the call letters were not mentioned. The vast
majority of people would not have a clue what station were were talking
about if you referred to them only by call letters since most stations
only give out their call once an hour, if that. They would know the
station by slogan, though.
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73, Jim Mark Roberts wrote:
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Traverse City, MI Loggings, All Times UTC
Antonios Kekalos <akekalos@...>
1.31.10, 0955, am 540, CBEF, Windsor, ON, 216mi/348km, CCRadio-SWP (ID This is CBC Radio 1)
1.31.10, 1010, am 1120, KMOX, St. Louis, MO, 486mi/781km, CCRadio-SWP (Playing Old Time Radio program) -- Tony Kekalos Traverse City, MI SWLR-RN072 EN74es
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What about Kchibo DSP KK-S500 MW FM SW
gratiscomputer <gratiscomputer@...>
Hello,
Would it contain teh silabs dsp chip too?? gc
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Re: Measuring PL-380 Soft-Mute
sdwillingham
Further info: Via my USB-equipped PL-300wt, I can read out that
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its soft-mute is configured with a threshold at SNR = 6 dB and the soft-mute slope is 2 dB/dB. This means that for each dB that the SNR reads below 6, the volume is reduced by 2 dB. At SNR = 0 dB, the maximum volume reduction is 12 dB. I suspect that the PL-380 simply changes the soft-mute slope parameter to 1 dB/dB, so it reduces the gain more gently and to a maximum of 6 dB. I'll have to confirm that when I get around to modifying my PL-380 with a USB interface. -Scott-
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Re: Kchibo KK-D6110 - anyone have one?
dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
I agree Jim - this is probably a fairly pedestrian model, otherwise they would have trumpeted the filter choices as with the D96L.
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Kevin
* Adjustable bandwidth;
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New UL Logs
John Cereghin <jcereghin@...>
Two new stations to add to the UL lately, heard on the PL-310 barefoot:
January 28 1060 WILB Canton OH, 1700, “This is AM 1060, WLIB…Catholic Radio for northeast Ohio”, into a world newscast, no sign of KYW. A surprise! UL station 667. January 30 690 WSPZ Birmingham AL, 1645, Fox Sports Radio, call ID, “The Sports Animal”, heard with the Montreal station now silent. UL station 668. John Cereghin Smyrna DE
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Re: New member and new G8 owner
keith beesley
Hi Dave,
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It has been said before, but probably bears repeating, that with the newer Chinese radios, you can't judge the performance of a certain make and model by a particular unit. They are fully capable of making very good radios; but sometimes you have to return one or two lemons before you get a "good one." I don't own an outdoor antenna either but enjoy listening outside, weather permitting :-) Welcome to the group and 73, Keith B.
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New member and new G8 owner
D <blvd_4762@...>
Hello!
Just saying "hi" to the group, as a new member. Also, I wanted to say that I purchased a Grundig G8 last night and am very happy I did. A neat little set; my first radio with DSP. The selectivity is very good. What they say about its AM and FM recpetion in that regard is true! I also like the neat signal meter which displays the signal-to-noise ratio, even though I don't really understand just exactly what sort of readings one should be looking for... or hoping for with this! I understand that a higher number for the signal itself is obviously better; my ears tell me that! However, I am not sure just what the signal-to-noise number means; is higher better?...or lower?...my guess is that the smaller the gap between the two numbers is probably better? Anyway, I am enjoyig the G8. I must have gotten a good one because mine does not have any of the image problems on SW that others report. I've been up and down all over the dial, too. Not one single image have I noted yet. Actually, I should say "thanks" to this group. It is because of you that I have my G8. The information I read on this message board made me go out and buy it. You see, I actually tried the G8 once before. I bought it on impulse one day. (I never told my wife about it..."what!? ANOTHER radio!?!"...do any guys here ever deal with this phenomenon?) Anyway...I was never impressed at ALL with this first set. There was not a single shortwave station that I could get clearly; every single one had images which I could not seem to tune out by relocating the radio, detuning, lowering the antenna...all the usual tricks one uses. It also had the warbling sound that some have reported, due to the mute function on the DSP chip being out of alignment, so they say. I finally decided after a couple of weeks to simply return it. After all, I really did not need ANOTHER radio, especially one that seemed to be a real dog. Christmas was coming, and the extra cash certainly would be nice to have anyway. (Part of the problem may have been that I bought the display model? Who knows how many people handled it, dropped it, etc.?) Well, I kept reading in various places how good the little G8 is. I wondered what I had been missing. Perhaps I had gotten a lemon? Perhaps I did not spend enough time getting used to the nuances of the set? So...when I joined this group last night and read the wonderful review of the G8 posted here, I got up out of the chair, put my coat on and asked my wife if she wanted to take a car ride with me to Radio Shack so I could get a Grundig G8. She said, "sure", and well, now I have one again. This time, it's a really good one! For the record, I should actually clarify one thing. My wife is very supportive of my radio hobby. She never balks when I buy a new radio. I just sometimes avoid telling her about a new radio because, I dunno...I feel sort of foolish, ya know? Us guys don't always want our significant others to realize just what a "little boy" we still are when it comes to our passion for our toys! My other radios are: Zenith Trans_Oceanic Royal 1000D, Eton/Grundig models: E1 E5 E10 E100 YB 550PE S350 FR200 Mini 100 Mini 300PE G1000A G2000 ("Porsche") G4000A (a.k.a YB 400) G3 traveller G6 Aviator - Buzz Aldrin edition G1100 Satellit 750 Satellit 800 Realistic DX398 (a.k.a. Sangean ATS 909) Sonys: ICF 7600GR ICF 2010 I have also owned the Sangean ATS 808 and the Realistic DX 440, (a.k.a. Sangean ATS 803 - another radio I never quite felt all that great about...seemed so "hissy" and somewhat deaf.) I want to try the new Grundig Mini 400 that sells for about $30. That will be next! As for antennas, I have never had an outdoor antenna! I am 48 years old and have been listening to shortwave since I was about 12. Can you believe it? That's another thing I should look into!! One could say that a couple of the sets I own are almost "wasted" on a guy like me. For instance, to own an E1 and never hear it really sing on an outdoor antenna!? That's probably some sort of radio crime! And maybe the DX 440 I owned would have done much better with an outdoor antenna too! Active Antennas I use: Sony ANLP_1, Degen 31, C Crane Twin Coil Ferrite I have one Passive antenna: Grundig AN200 Well, I've gone on long enough here. However I just wanted to say hello and "thanks" for inspiring me to give the G8 another try! Sincerely, Dave from Minnesota
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Re: Measuring PL-380 Soft-Mute
Chris Knight <chris@...>
Thanks Scott!
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That verifies what I've observed from Day 1. I purchased the PL-380 specifically because it was reported soft mute had been disabled. Audicity is proving itself to be useful software and it's free. Can't beat that! I highly recommend something like this for folks testing and reporting on the functionality of these radios. Chris Knight (N0IJK) Fort Lupton, Colorado http://sites.google.com/site/ftluptonulrlogs/
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From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of sdwillingham Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:07 PM To: ultralightdx@... Subject: [ultralightdx] Measuring PL-380 Soft-Mute Hi All, It has been debated occasionally whether the PL-380 has soft-mute. The short answer is: mine does (PL-380 2009.9 ver 1) and it's fairly easy to measure. The procedure is to tune a strong, steady station, measure its average audio level, then off-tune by 1kHz, and finally remeasure its level. To measure the average level, use a free computer recording program. I think many of you have Audacity and, while it's not my favorite, it works fine for this purpose. Here's what I did: 1) Install Audacity and launch the program. 2) Attach an audio cable from your PL-380 to the computer's mic or line input. 3) Turn the radio on, tune in a strong station with good SNR, and set the radio's volume control to 7 or 8. Also, set the IF filter to 6 kHz. 4) Back in Audacity, locate the input meter (rightmost), and click on meter to start monitoring the input. (Stretch the meter toolbar out to see the levels better.) 5) Next, you'll have to locate your system's recording mixer and adjust the recording level. I can't tell you the specifics, since this depends on your sound card. If you are using a 'mic' input, try to turn off its 'boost' setting. Adjust the mixer level until the average signal shows about -15 dB or so on the Audacity meter. 6) Now monitor the signal's running peak (a dark-red vertical line on the meter). Determine a where this peak sits for a particular talker's voice or song. For example, I'm seeing about -12 dB on my meter now. 7) Tune the radio off-carrier by 1kHz. Even for strong signals, this causes the radio to indicate and SNR of 0 dB which kicks-in the soft-mute function. Measure the peak level again. I see about -18 dB now. So my conclusion is that my radio has about 6 dB maximum soft-mute. The conclusion is, PL-380 2009.9 ver 1 radios have about 6 dB soft-mute. This probably also means that the soft-mute threshold is 6 dB, but that is not certain. We can also conclude that Tecsun is setting this deliberately, since it does not match with the Si4734 defaults (neither firmware 2.0 or 4.0). Perhaps one of you with a 'new' model can test if the settings have been changed. -Scott- ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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