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Re: Kchibo D96L arrived today

gerfmon
 

I wish Anon_co would send an English manual for the PL-310. I have no idea if swallowing the included AA batteries is harmful or not. ;)

73,
Jerry, KD0GS
Longmont, CO

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "chuck_rippel" <Chuck.Rippel@...> wrote:

Thank you for the heads up on the manual. I actually was able to set the tuning step, time/date and tuning speed from the Chinese manual. However, thank goodness for your pointer to the English version on the site so I could read this important tip:

"8. Do not put batteries mouth. If you swallow it, the
electrolyte may result in poisoning."

BTW: The "chuffing" is still there. That said, its something I can live with. The D96L its not a bad sounding radio and I immediately noticed its nulling ability surpassed my G8.

All said, I would agree this is a different production run from those previously reviewed if only that the filter selections now actually match what is displayed.

It's amazing the level of performance and technology one gets for the price along with 2 LIon batteries...

Am waiting for my variable capacitors to arrive from The Crystal Set Society so I can finish my 40" per side loop and build a crate loop.

As an aside note, was talking with long time friend, John Bryant yesterday. One of the topics was how "obliquely similar" Ultra-Light DX'ing is with traditional SWBC DX. The fun is in the

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA


Sony SRF T615 channel step adjustment

sjb92338 <sbass@...>
 

I have a T615 and next week will be located at a place where TP reception may be a possibility.

My AM channel step is now set at 10 and I would like to adjust it to 9 if it is simple to do.

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Steve


Re: Reception of 738-Taiwan on Tecsun PL-310

chuck_rippel <Chuck.Rippel@...>
 

Gary:

A superb recording! What were you using to actually make the recording? Lots of fidelity there.

Actually, I thought best audio recovery a toss up between the 2-3KC filter. Yes, the 1 kc reduced the splatter a bit more however, if the station ID were given by a woman, it might be more difficult to understand the higher pitched voice in a more narrow bandwidth.

I wish we had some TA activity here. Cried in my beer with John about that yesterday....

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your comments on the 738-Taiwan recording. The TP conditions
this morning were actually well below average, so it will be interesting to
see what the PL-310 can do when the TP's really boom in.

For a PL-310 owner living in the middle of the USA, the DSP selectivity
should really help in cutting down the domestic splatter when chasing TP's
(or TA's). It seems that Tecsun has really worked the bugs out of the DSP
filtering system, which provides optimum choices for all types of DXing.

73, Gary


Re: Kchibo D96L arrived today

chuck_rippel <Chuck.Rippel@...>
 

Thank you for the heads up on the manual. I actually was able to set the tuning step, time/date and tuning speed from the Chinese manual. However, thank goodness for your pointer to the English version on the site so I could read this important tip:

"8. Do not put batteries mouth. If you swallow it, the
electrolyte may result in poisoning."

BTW: The "chuffing" is still there. That said, its something I can live with. The D96L its not a bad sounding radio and I immediately noticed its nulling ability surpassed my G8.

All said, I would agree this is a different production run from those previously reviewed if only that the filter selections now actually match what is displayed.

It's amazing the level of performance and technology one gets for the price along with 2 LIon batteries...

Am waiting for my variable capacitors to arrive from The Crystal Set Society so I can finish my 40" per side loop and build a crate loop.

As an aside note, was talking with long time friend, John Bryant yesterday. One of the topics was how "obliquely similar" Ultra-Light DX'ing is with traditional SWBC DX. The fun is in the

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "dhsatyadhana" <satya@...> wrote:

Hey Chuck:

It looks like you have one from a subsequent production run - congrats!

In addition to the filter indication snafu, I would be curious if they fixed the significant "chuffing" noise on AM while the back light is on for the LCD. With all but the strongest signals, this makes the first 5 seconds of listening a challenge, since any keystroke or knob turn will cause the backlight to come on for 5 seconds or so.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: Kchibo D96L arrived today

dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
 

Hey Chuck:

It looks like you have one from a subsequent production run - congrats!

In addition to the filter indication snafu, I would be curious if they fixed the significant "chuffing" noise on AM while the back light is on for the LCD. With all but the strongest signals, this makes the first 5 seconds of listening a challenge, since any keystroke or knob turn will cause the backlight to come on for 5 seconds or so.

In case you haven't seen it, a fairly complete English rendityion of the maual is in the "Files > 4 Radios, Reviews, Manuals > Radio Manuals" section here on the Yahoo group.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "chuck_rippel" <Chuck.Rippel@...> wrote:

And I actually got the clock set! Now to set the tuning steps to 10kc v/s 9.

Seems to work very well and this version has the band widths actually match the display. F1 is the most narrow, F6 widest.

2 LIon batteries, 220V charger, USB power cord for charging. Manual is 100% Chinese though.

Only gripe so far (an what do you expect for the price v/s features?) is the tuning knob is a bit cheesy.

My measurements are 5.626" X 3.5" X .875"

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA


Kchibo D96L arrived today

chuck_rippel <Chuck.Rippel@...>
 

And I actually got the clock set! Now to set the tuning steps to 10kc v/s 9.

Seems to work very well and this version has the band widths actually match the display. F1 is the most narrow, F6 widest.

2 LIon batteries, 220V charger, USB power cord for charging. Manual is 100% Chinese though.

Only gripe so far (an what do you expect for the price v/s features?) is the tuning knob is a bit cheesy.

My measurements are 5.626" X 3.5" X .875"

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA


Re: Reception of 738-Taiwan on Tecsun PL-310

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Chuck,
 
Thanks for your comments on the 738-Taiwan recording.
 
Of course, I agree with you that the audio quality of Taiwan on the PL-310's 2 or 3 kc filter settings would be best in this particular situation, since the 740-KCBS splatter was not a major problem. In some tough TP-chasing situations where the DX is only 1 kc away from a domestic station, however, the 1 kc filter is sometimes the only way to make a reception, despite the degraded audio quality.
 
By the way, 738-Taiwan did have a weak signal on the stock PL-310 this morning, although there was much more 740-KCBS splatter. The 9' box loop not only boosted Taiwan's signal greatly, but tuned out a lot of the KCBS splatter. The recording was made on a Sony ICD-SX57 audio recorder, then re-recorded on an Edirol R09 to make the MP3.
 
73, Gary (in Puyallup, WA)   
 

In a message dated 10/9/2009 2:25:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chuck.Rippel@... writes:
 

Gary:

A superb recording! What were you using to actually make the recording? Lots of fidelity there.

Actually, I thought best audio recovery a toss up between the 2-3KC filter. Yes, the 1 kc reduced the splatter a bit more however, if the station ID were given by a woman, it might be more difficult to understand the higher pitched voice in a more narrow bandwidth.

I wish we had some TA activity here. Cried in my beer with John about that yesterday....

Chuck Rippel
Chesapeake, VA

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, D1028Gary@... wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks for your comments on the 738-Taiwan recording. The TP conditions
> this morning were actually well below average, so it will be interesting to
> see what the PL-310 can do when the TP's really boom in.
>
> For a PL-310 owner living in the middle of the USA, the DSP selectivity
> should really help in cutting down the domestic splatter when chasing TP's
> (or TA's). It seems that Tecsun has really worked the bugs out of the DSP
> filtering system, which provides optimum choices for all types of DXing.
>
> 73, Gary


Re: Reception of 738-Taiwan on Tecsun PL-310 (DSP Selectivity Option MP3)

bbwrwy
 

Gary:

I don't know which superlative correctly describes the recording. I will simply use amazing. It would definitely help when trying to hear TA's here in the central US.

Good DX.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N/97° 26'35"W
(near Perry OK USA)
Sony SRF-T615 & Etón E100


Re: Reception of 738-Taiwan on Tecsun PL-310 (DSP Selectiv...

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Richard,
 
Thanks for your comments on the 738-Taiwan recording. The TP conditions this morning were actually well below average, so it will be interesting to see what the PL-310 can do when the TP's really boom in.
 
For a PL-310 owner living in the middle of the USA, the DSP selectivity should really help in cutting down the domestic splatter when chasing TP's (or TA's). It seems that Tecsun has really worked the bugs out of the DSP filtering system, which provides optimum choices for all types of DXing.
 
73, Gary  
 

In a message dated 10/9/2009 10:50:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richarda@... writes:
 

Gary:

I don't know which superlative correctly describes the recording. I will simply use amazing. It would definitely help when trying to hear TA's here in the central US.

Good DX.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N/97° 26'35"W
(near Perry OK USA)
Sony SRF-T615 & Etón E100


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

ronshire2000
 

that multiplies out to 20.199375 cubic inches or rounded to 20.2
Ron

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "John H. Bryant" <bjohnorcas@...> wrote:

Thanks for the measurements, Jerry.

Your numbers multiply out to 20.019 cu.in. plus the tuning knob
itself. Looks to me like we'll have to wait on Kevin's official
calipers and then a decision by the Definitions Committee. Man, I'm
glad that I'm NOT on the DefComm.

John Bryant
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Winradio G313e and various Ultralights
Wellbrook Phased Array + Superloops





At 02:24 AM 10/9/2009 +0000, gerfmon wrote:




Ok, I pulled out my caliper and I measure:

5.32 inches wide.
5.52 inches wide including the tuning knob on the side.
3.375 inches tall.
1.125 inches deep.

My insights on the radio so far as compared to my Grundig G8:

1.Longwave is about the same as the G8 - pretty deaf without an
external antenna.

2.Medium wave is slightly more sensitive than my G8. I can just
start to hear KLOE, Goodland, KS, 1000 watts, 190 miles away during
the daylight hours, using the stock antenna. I cannot copy it at all
using the G8 with stock antenna.

3.Shortwave is quite a bit more sensitive than my G8. Radio New
Zealand on 15.720 tonight was 15 DBu and a bit of a hard copy on the
G8. At the same time it was 28 DBu and pretty good copy using the PL-310.

4.FM is a little less sensitive than the G8 but the selectivity
remains very good. I can weakly copy a station from Cheyenne, WY on
93.7 MHz with the G8. At the same time, I can barely tell it's there
using the PL-310.

5.The narrow bandwidths (3, 2, and 1 KHz) work pretty well to
eliminate co-channel interference. Surprising, the audio is not that
muffled even at 1 KHz.

6.Contrary to my earlier post, the soft muting is still just as
annoying on weak stations as on the G8.

6.My biggest gripe so far...the tuning step size jumps around out of
control. Whether I'm moving the tuning dial very slow, slow, or even
fast, one second the tuning is moving in 1 KHz increments, the next
second in 10 KHz increments, then back to 1 KHz. Sometimes makes it
a real PITA to zero in a frequency.

Those of you that have your radios now, please let me know if the
tuning step thing is "as designed" or if I've got another problem
with my PL-310.

73,
Jerry, KD0GS
Longmont, CO


Degen DE17

dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
 

Hi Joshua:

Interesting set - this looks like a non-MP3 version of the DE1123. Per
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370237097314
it tunes in 9/10 khz steps, and has the same sensitivity and selectivity specs as the DE1123. Might be a fun little radio, especially with a little external help from a passive loop or something.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Everett <jbe123@...> wrote:

Anyone seen the Degen DE 17 dsp yet? Here is a link!
http://item.taobao.com/auction/item_detail-0db1-2192d704e425fe32d1317ba4e27f17c5.htm?cm_cat=0&pm1=3


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

fm104rockinstereo
 

Hi all

The Degen DE 17 looks like a very pretty radio... although if it is a garbage performer that doesn't help :)

Scrolling through Ebay I noticed that the new Tecsun PL310 including shipping is actually cheaper than the PL300WT with the same DSP IC. Strange? Perhaps the price of the new model will be raised in coming weeks.

Cheers
Leigh Donaldson
Band II DXer
Brisbane, Australia

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Everett <jbe123@...> wrote:

Anyone seen the Degen DE 17 dsp yet? Here is a link!
http://item.taobao.com/auction/item_detail-0db1-2192d704e425fe32d1317ba4e27f17c5.htm?cm_cat=0&pm1=3


Reception of 738-Taiwan on Tecsun PL-310 (DSP Selectivity Option MP3)

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
The new Tecsun PL-310 model was used in actual TP-DXing here this morning, and the 1 kHz DSP selectivity option was found to be competitive in performance with the premium Murata CFJ455K5 IF filters (installed in the modified E100's and SWP's).
 
Although the TP conditions this morning were nothing to shout about, at 1405 UTC the new 9' PVC box loop here was still able to get a solid "9" signal from 738-Taiwan Fisheries for a demonstration MP3, in which the PL-310's DSP selectivity options are stepped through (from 6 kHz to 1 kHz).
 
Uploaded to the Ultralightdx sound file site, the MP3 starts with the PL-310 on the 6 kHz selectivity option, having splatter and a loud heterodyne from 740-KCBS. The 4 kHz, 3 kHz, 2 kHz and 1 kHz DSP options are then progressively selected-- finally eliminating the KCBS splatter and heterodyne completely (leaving only the "9" signal Chinese music from Taiwan on the frequency). A similar MP3 of the PL-310 receiving 603-HLSA (with the Chinese co-channel) is also available, for those interested.
 
The PL-310 does seem to be a very competitive performer in TP-DXing, with good audio for MP3 recordings. In this respect, it would at least equal the Kchibo D96L's 9 kHz-split performance, in my opinion.
 
73, Gary DeBock 
   


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

Joshua Everett
 

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:34 PM, <D1028Gary@...> wrote:
 

Hello All,
 
Like many others, I received my new Tecsun PL-310 from "Anon-co" today-- and immediately pulled out a ruler. Like John Bryant and many others, I was intensely interested in whether or not the radio would exceed the 20 cubic inch limit, the barrier of consensus for Ultralight radio status.
 
It turns out that the PL-310 is much closer to the 20 cubic inch limit than we originally thought-- in fact is almost exactly on the borderline. My own unscientific measurements place the dimensions as 5.4" x 3.35" x 1.1", for a volume of 19.899 cubic inches (!). Whether or not this model qualifies as an Ultralight radio is not up to me (but to the Definitions Committee), but I thought that this information would be of interest to those who might wish to order one.
 
I will be testing the sensitivity, selectivity and quirks of this model extensively in the next few days, along with the other purchasers of this "flagship" DSP model from Tecsun. It appears to be worth the wait!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
 
 
 
 



Re: ULR DX...New Station @ Bedtime.....CINCI 1480 WCIN/WDJO...Anyone know which they are right now??? HELP???

Alex
 

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Robert S.Ross VA3SW" <va3sw@...> wrote:

Hi Guys:

Logged a NEW STN for the ULR LOG and OVERALL LOG before nodding off
last night. It's a NEW Station either way...but...I'm not Positive just
what Call Sign they are using at the moment??? After 1160 Changed their
calls from WDJO to WQRT...the WDJO Calls were supposed to go to
WCIN/1480 in Cincinnati. I'm just not sure if the Call Sign Switch has
occurred officially yet?? The 1480 Website says it has....but I've read
elsewhere on the net that the WDJO Switch for WCIN has not occurred yet.
Anyone down that way know the REAL STORY??? The only IDs they give are
OLDIES 1480......no calls ever mentioned. I even listened to the online
feed ...and NO Calls there either??

Radio Used........................SONY SRF-T615 BAREFOOT

ULR LOG TOTALS are.....................705 Stations Heard.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

73.........................ROB

Robert S. Ross VA3SW
London, Ontario CANADA

****************************************************************************
1480 WDJO (Calls Presumed) Cincinnati, OHIO OCT/07/09 2302 EDT EE GOOD
Oldies Music. IDs as "Oldies 1480". 50's/60's 70's Oldies. ID as "The
King of the Queen
City Radio...Oldies 1480". Tons of Oldies and lots of "Oldies 1480" IDs
and lots of
Cincinnati references....but NEVER any calls to answer my
question...WDJO....or WCIN??

NEW STATION ULR # 705 4.5 KW/ 300 Watts Nights
ROSS, ONT.
******************************************************************************



I'll tell you what I'll do for you Rob. That station is only 50 miles south of me. I live a the northern end of the Cinn-Day corridor. So I'll listen to 1480 and figrue out the current call for you. I just need your paitents and I'll report to you tomarrow night.

Alex N8UCN / KOH8IG


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Thanks for the measurements, Jerry.

Your numbers multiply out to 20.019 cu.in. plus the tuning knob itself.  Looks to me like we'll have to wait on Kevin's official calipers and then a decision by the Definitions Committee.  Man, I'm glad that I'm NOT on the DefComm.

John Bryant
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Winradio G313e and various Ultralights
Wellbrook Phased Array + Superloops





At 02:24 AM 10/9/2009 +0000, gerfmon wrote:
 



Ok, I pulled out my caliper and I measure:

5.32 inches wide.
5.52 inches wide including the tuning knob on the side.
3.375 inches tall.
1.125 inches deep.

My insights on the radio so far as compared to my Grundig G8:

1.Longwave is about the same as the G8 - pretty deaf without an external antenna.

2.Medium wave is slightly more sensitive than my G8. I can just start to hear KLOE, Goodland, KS, 1000 watts, 190 miles away during the daylight hours, using the stock antenna. I cannot copy it at all using the G8 with stock antenna.

3.Shortwave is quite a bit more sensitive than my G8. Radio New Zealand on 15.720 tonight was 15 DBu and a bit of a hard copy on the G8. At the same time it was 28 DBu and pretty good copy using the PL-310.

4.FM is a little less sensitive than the G8 but the selectivity remains very good. I can weakly copy a station from Cheyenne, WY on 93.7 MHz with the G8. At the same time, I can barely tell it's there using the PL-310.

5.The narrow bandwidths (3, 2, and 1 KHz) work pretty well to eliminate co-channel interference. Surprising, the audio is not that muffled even at 1 KHz.

6.Contrary to my earlier post, the soft muting is still just as annoying on weak stations as on the G8.

6.My biggest gripe so far...the tuning step size jumps around out of control. Whether I'm moving the tuning dial very slow, slow, or even fast, one second the tuning is moving in 1 KHz increments, the next second in 10 KHz increments, then back to 1 KHz. Sometimes makes it a real PITA to zero in a frequency.

Those of you that have your radios now, please let me know if the tuning step thing is "as designed" or if I've got another problem with my PL-310.

73,
Jerry, KD0GS
Longmont, CO


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

gerfmon
 

Ok, I pulled out my caliper and I measure:

5.32 inches wide.
5.52 inches wide including the tuning knob on the side.
3.375 inches tall.
1.125 inches deep.

My insights on the radio so far as compared to my Grundig G8:

1.Longwave is about the same as the G8 - pretty deaf without an external antenna.

2.Medium wave is slightly more sensitive than my G8. I can just start to hear KLOE, Goodland, KS, 1000 watts, 190 miles away during the daylight hours, using the stock antenna. I cannot copy it at all using the G8 with stock antenna.

3.Shortwave is quite a bit more sensitive than my G8. Radio New Zealand on 15.720 tonight was 15 DBu and a bit of a hard copy on the G8. At the same time it was 28 DBu and pretty good copy using the PL-310.

4.FM is a little less sensitive than the G8 but the selectivity remains very good. I can weakly copy a station from Cheyenne, WY on 93.7 MHz with the G8. At the same time, I can barely tell it's there using the PL-310.

5.The narrow bandwidths (3, 2, and 1 KHz) work pretty well to eliminate co-channel interference. Surprising, the audio is not that muffled even at 1 KHz.

6.Contrary to my earlier post, the soft muting is still just as annoying on weak stations as on the G8.

6.My biggest gripe so far...the tuning step size jumps around out of control. Whether I'm moving the tuning dial very slow, slow, or even fast, one second the tuning is moving in 1 KHz increments, the next second in 10 KHz increments, then back to 1 KHz. Sometimes makes it a real PITA to zero in a frequency.

Those of you that have your radios now, please let me know if the tuning step thing is "as designed" or if I've got another problem with my PL-310.

73,
Jerry, KD0GS
Longmont, CO


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

dhsatyadhana <satya@...>
 

Hi all:

As for getting a Definition committee verdict, unfortunately mine is still wending its way through the Taobao agent, and so I can't get my calipers out. Of course, if someone wants to drive to NW Washington State with one, I would be happy to take a look :-).

Lesson learned - given the quick listing of the PL-310 on eBay after it hit Taobao, I think I will wait until the PL-380 is listed on eBay.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: Tecsun PL-310-- A Possible Ultralight After All?

robert ross
 

D1028Gary@... wrote:

It turns out that the PL-310 is much closer to the 20 cubic inch limit than we originally thought-- in fact is almost exactly on the borderline. My own unscientific measurements place the dimensions as 5.4" x 3.35" x 1.1", for a volume of 19.899 cubic inches (!). Whether or not this model qualifies as an Ultralight radio is not up to me (but to the Definitions Committee), but I thought that this information would be of interest to those who might wish to order one.

OK Gary:

  Since you have measured this RADIO with your Official ULR DX Micrometer....and it looks like it's gonna fall into the ULR Category...I have just ordered mine from Hong Kong.........hopefully ahead of the onslaught!!! HAHAHAHA......

I'll just call this my Early Christmas Present to myself....and what the heck I still have a couple of empty pockets in my ULR Radio Holder!!!

Get this one all figured out before mine arrives Gary.....and I'll see what it can do in the near future!!

I'll await the OFFICIAL COMMITTEE Approval of this hopeful in the ULR Category...I'm sure they are working on it as we type!!

73...ROB.

Robert S. Ross VA3SW
London, Ontario CANADA









Re: New Station Tonight...and One to Go

robert ross
 

John Cereghin wrote:
 

Caught WPCE-1400 Portsmouth VA at 18:30 tonight, with "WPCE, Your
Inspiration Station" with gospel music barefoot on the Pl-300WT. UL
Station #599...the next one is The Big One!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE












Good Work John!!!!!! I'm sure you'll bag # 600 REAL SOON!!!! Get 'er tonight before you hit the Hay!!!

73...ROB VA3SW