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Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

Peter Laws
 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 4:28 PM Phillips <phillicom@...> wrote:

As for the letters of the broadcast call signs; some refer to the operators and some have historical interest.
Know anything about VL as a prefix for broadcast (not amateur)
stations? The article at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_signs_in_Australia casually
mentions VL but it's tagged [citation needed] ...

US stations in the pre-license era before 1912 were often ops'
initials as well. I believe that I've read that this was still
semi-true after the Dept of Commerce, Bureau of Navigation started
issuing licenses but that it was up to the district inspector. I
guess a search of old US gov't station lists (most of which are online
now) would tell.



--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

Paul B. Walker, Jr.
 

Those letters are their call letters.  

Raido batlic waves international doesn’t have a website or stream that I can find.  But they are listed on Mwlist 


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:31 PM FenDrifter via groups.io <essexmarshman=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Alaska, wow! Thanks for that Baltic/Lithuania link, I’ll try and look that up, but you’ve lost me again with those letter collections!
Drifter


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

FenDrifter
 

Alaska, wow! Thanks for that Baltic/Lithuania link, I’ll try and look that up, but you’ve lost me again with those letter collections!
Drifter


Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

Phillips
 

Australia uses a prefix number to represent each state and territory.  Most numbers apply to broadcast and ham call signs with the exception of ACT hams.

0 = Antarctica
9 = Australian external territories
8 = Northern Territory
7 = Tasmania
6 = Western Australia
5 = South Australia
4 = Queensland
3 = Victoria
2 = New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory (ACT, Canberra).
1 = Australian Capital territory (ACT, Canberra) - ham licences only eg VK1xxx.

As for the letters of the broadcast call signs; some refer to the operators and some have historical interest.

A few examples;
5DN is a South Australian call sign; the DN refers to Denise and Norman who were a brother and sister who operated a pioneering broadcast station from their flat for half an hour each week when broadcasting was truly new.
2SM is a Sydney New South Wales call sign; the SM stands for Saint Mary's and refers to the catholic cathedral in Sydney which owned the radio station.
5AD refers to the "Advertiser" newspaper that owned the station.

Some letters refer to the geographic location of the station.

Examples;
5PI is Port Pirie, South Australia.
5SE is Mount Gambier which is in the South East of South Australia.
2QN is Deniliquin, New South Wales.
7HT is Hobart, Tasmania

Other call signs baffle me as to their origins; eg  3UZ (Victoria), 4KQ (Queensland).  Somewhere there must be a radio historian who can put it all together.
 






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Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Alpha Numeric confusion!
 
As Paul is based in Australia, the majority of those are Australian calls. Some are used on air, others not. New Zealand follows the same format.

Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


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Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Alpha Numeric confusion!
 


Re: AM Radio has some of the most UNORIGINAL "Slogans" !!!

FenDrifter
 

I think you’re right Johnny, but jingle writers must be well paid if they’re on royalties - get in there! 😊


Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

FenDrifter
 

Hi Peter
Thanks for such an extensive reply! So these are ham radio call signs? Being totally ignorant of this area of interest I have a couple of questions. As this is an ultralight group I’m assuming these logs are picked up on sideband? If so then it’s something I’ve not yet investigated, although I do have a couple of sideband capable sets. Bear in mind I’m a (very) late starter in this game, added to that I’m in the UK. If I chose to look, where would be a good place to start?
Drifter


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

Paul B. Walker, Jr.
 

No. I’m in alaska 

The 1386 you heard, was likely radio Baltic waves international from Lithuania. They broadcasting a few different program one from RFE/RL, NHK, etc. 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:09 PM FenDrifter via groups.io <essexmarshman=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Paul
I’m in the UK, and from what I’ve just read you’re in Australia?
Drifter


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

FenDrifter
 

Hi Paul
I’m in the UK, and from what I’ve just read you’re in Australia?
Drifter


Re: Farthest US DX logging so far in 2022 - Eton Elite Mini

Johnny
 

Hi Peter,

Thanks!  I appreciate your response!

My location is very south in the state of Michigan, US.



J


Re: Farthest US DX logging so far in 2022 - Eton Elite Mini

Peter Laws
 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:46 AM Johnny via groups.io
<jlochey@...> wrote:

The "Voice of Amarillo" in Amarillo, Texas, 940 KIXZ.

This station was broadcasting on nighttime power of 1000 watts at a location of 1071 miles from my location.

1000 W station at that distance is pretty cool. What *is* your location?




--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: AM Radio has some of the most UNORIGINAL "Slogans" !!!

Johnny
 

Hi FenDrifter,

LOL!

I really should.

All kidding aside, I wonder why they do that?  Maybe it IS actually easier to remember if the slogan is super simple?



J


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

Johnny
 

Sounds cool!

J


Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

Peter Laws
 

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:10 PM FenDrifter via groups.io
<essexmarshman@...> wrote:

Hi Peter
Many thanks for your reply, in which I suspect you’ve answered my question. But, to be sure, have a look at Paul’s logging here:
https://ultralightdx.groups.io/g/main/topic/loggings_13_01_2022/88418148?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,0,88418148,previd=1643048957210730795,nextid=1642113225131194308&previd=1643048957210730795&nextid=1642113225131194308
Drifter
Yeah, so pulling "1332 - 3SH" at random and inserting that into the
google machine, gave me this (among others):

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/58686997

I was surprised to see that the Australians didn't list the prefix
even back then ... but it's possible I'm confused about "VL" and that
AUS broadcast callsigns never had a prefix.

In the US, it's been W and 2 or three letters since the start of
broadcast radio. Before that, ship stations started with K. And then
they started to run out of W calls for broadcasting so they said, 'OK,
those folks out west that are barely in the US will use K'. And then
that dividing line ended up at the Mississippi R where it sort-of
exists today. Sort-of, because I don't believe that the relevant
regulations actually require it any more.

There are "legacy" W callsigns west of the river (WKY here in OKC,
WBAP and WOAI down in Texas and many others) and there are a *few* Ks
to the east (KDKA Pittsburgh because it seems to have received the
first *broadcast* license and KDKA probably meant that the ship
station license earlier that morning got KDJZ, and KYW at the other
end of the Penna Turnpike, which was physically moved from Chicago in
the 1930s and maybe the call letters were engraved on the cabinets?).

In the ham radio world, at least in the US and Canada, early callsigns
started with the radio district number (my alma mater was issued "5YM"
in 1916). Amateurs didn't get letter prefixes (W in the US) until
1927 when it was clear that world-wide transmissions were actually A
Thing. Canadian hams got VE, probably around the same time.

If you scroll around in that link above, you can see a BBC-owned short
wave station with call G5SW.

To me, callsigns are part of what makes radio nerdy for me. I'm sad
to see them dying in favor of "Bob-FM" or "Capital Radio" or "CBS
Sports Radio".

--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

Paul B. Walker, Jr.
 


Where are you?

Paul 


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 10:29 AM FenDrifter via groups.io <essexmarshman=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Okay Johnny and all, it’s arrived and I have to say I’m pretty impressed. But what I didn’t notice in my haste to buy was that unlike the Etón Mini it doesn’t have shortwave 😞. I haven’t been through all the operations yet, only the basic. I was tuning about and after 1700 UT. The AM band brought in my usual line up of stations plus a European station on 1386kHz (unknown because I’m not very familiar with this band). On FM it was also competent but when I plugged in some headphones the stereo was actually impressive. It’s a new toy that will live in my pocket for a while, and if anything more noticeable turns up I’ll let you know. 

Drifter


Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

Russ Edmunds
 

As Paul is based in Australia, the majority of those are Australian calls. Some are used on air, others not. New Zealand follows the same format.

Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


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Re: AM Radio has some of the most UNORIGINAL "Slogans" !!!

FenDrifter
 

Contact some of them Johnny and tell them your suggestions, you never know!
Drifter


Re: Eton/Grundig Elite Mini - Initial Observations

FenDrifter
 

Okay Johnny and all, it’s arrived and I have to say I’m pretty impressed. But what I didn’t notice in my haste to buy was that unlike the Etón Mini it doesn’t have shortwave 😞. I haven’t been through all the operations yet, only the basic. I was tuning about and after 1700 UT. The AM band brought in my usual line up of stations plus a European station on 1386kHz (unknown because I’m not very familiar with this band). On FM it was also competent but when I plugged in some headphones the stereo was actually impressive. It’s a new toy that will live in my pocket for a while, and if anything more noticeable turns up I’ll let you know. 

Drifter


Re: Alpha Numeric confusion!

FenDrifter
 


AM Radio has some of the most UNORIGINAL "Slogans" !!!

Johnny
 

Hi all,

Just was thinking about how incredibly unoriginal most AM Radio (maybe FM too?) station slogans are!

I can't BELIEVE how many boring slogans exist, I have lost count of how many stations use...

  • "Newsradio xxx"
  • "Sportstalk xxx"
  • "The News Station"


How about instead slogans like these (made up of course)...

"The AM 840 Blow Torch"
"The AM 970 Information Infusion"
"The AM 1050 Powerhouse"
"The AM 1130 Intellectual Injection"

That's more exciting!  :)
Just my 2 cents.  :)



Johnny


Farthest US DX logging so far in 2022 - Eton Elite Mini

Johnny
 

Hi all,

Just wanted to share a notable log entry that I was able to receive last night on the tiny Eton/Grundig Elite Mini.

The "Voice of Amarillo" in Amarillo, Texas, 940 KIXZ.

This station was broadcasting on nighttime power of 1000 watts at a location of 1071 miles from my location.

This is my farthest US DX logging so far in 2022.

I had to sit on this frequency for about 30 mins, off and on to log it accurately.


Johnny

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