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Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

That is a great answer. When I had a "branded" work van, that also helped to keep people away.


On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, 10:02 am Phillips, <phillicom@...> wrote:
Occasionally I set up a long DOG (Dipole On Ground) over the local soccer field to do a bit of after-dark MWDX away from household interference sources.  Maybe it is my body language but few people question what I am doing.

I tell those that do ask that I am taking seismology readings because that soccer field is directly over the most active earthquake fault line in Australia and that a 'quake is overdue (both true).  Seems to satisfy them a lot easier than trying to explain DX.


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...>
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 10:47 PM
To: UltralightDX@groups.io <UltralightDX@groups.io>
Subject: [UltralightDX] Hobbies in Public Areas
 

How do people who undertake their hobbies in public areas handle any questions or concerns from members of the public?

Yesterday I was out at a local park and had my full kit with me, I was setup in an area well away from the playground and not close to any houses, not long after setting up, I have somebody make the effort to walk over to where I was and asked me what I was doing, why I was doing it and did I have a permit? I did try to explain that it was not amateur radio and that I don't need a license for it as it is receiving only (as a side note, I do have my AOCPF).

This is not the first time this has happened. I try to undertake my portable sessions away from people, at less popular / busy parks, not near the playground (unless I have my kids with me), not too early or late in the day and I don't set up too much equipment at once. 

Back in my radio scanning days, this used to be an issue, it seems that in 20 years, not much has changed :( 


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Paul


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Phillips
 

Occasionally I set up a long DOG (Dipole On Ground) over the local soccer field to do a bit of after-dark MWDX away from household interference sources.  Maybe it is my body language but few people question what I am doing.

I tell those that do ask that I am taking seismology readings because that soccer field is directly over the most active earthquake fault line in Australia and that a 'quake is overdue (both true).  Seems to satisfy them a lot easier than trying to explain DX.


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...>
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 10:47 PM
To: UltralightDX@groups.io <UltralightDX@groups.io>
Subject: [UltralightDX] Hobbies in Public Areas
 

How do people who undertake their hobbies in public areas handle any questions or concerns from members of the public?

Yesterday I was out at a local park and had my full kit with me, I was setup in an area well away from the playground and not close to any houses, not long after setting up, I have somebody make the effort to walk over to where I was and asked me what I was doing, why I was doing it and did I have a permit? I did try to explain that it was not amateur radio and that I don't need a license for it as it is receiving only (as a side note, I do have my AOCPF).

This is not the first time this has happened. I try to undertake my portable sessions away from people, at less popular / busy parks, not near the playground (unless I have my kids with me), not too early or late in the day and I don't set up too much equipment at once. 

Back in my radio scanning days, this used to be an issue, it seems that in 20 years, not much has changed :( 


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Paul


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

Glad it is not just a "local" thing here.

Paul

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:37 AM Zacharias Liangas via groups.io <zliangas=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Νeaely the same in Greece.
My mom proposed me not to test shortwaves even in not so populous roads 
As for the moment had not any problem



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Paul


Re: 50kw Station Challenge - 2022

Paul Blundell
 

Not a problem at all, feel free to.

Paul

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 7:19 AM Johnny via groups.io <jlochey=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Paul,

I love it!

This is exactly the challenge that I needed for this year for my AM DXing...

Hope you don't mind of I "copy cat" your idea here in the US?

:)


Johnny



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Paul


Re: County Comm GP-7

Paul Blundell
 

It sounds like a nice radio, I have been keeping an eye on the https://www.tecsunradios.com.au/store/product/tecsun-pl-368-hand-held-hf-ssb-receiver/
I will be keen to hear what you think of it.

Paul

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 3:17 AM Ron Layton via groups.io <micron327=zoho.com@groups.io> wrote:

Has anyone else bought one of these? I purchased one on December 23 but it won't be here until the second week of January. I also purchased the spare batteries and charger and the base.  I'm curious if anyone has had good DX with this radio.



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Paul


Re: County Comm GP-7

earl tasca
 

The charger is good I also bought the case.the radio is ok I bought it as a curiosity the 330 is much better. As someone mentioned the fm is surprisingly weak.best of luck.i  am looking for suggestions on a simple anteanna for the 330,thank you.


On Sun, Jan 2, 2022, 11:17 AM Ron Layton via groups.io <micron327=zoho.com@groups.io> wrote:

Has anyone else bought one of these? I purchased one on December 23 but it won't be here until the second week of January. I also purchased the spare batteries and charger and the base.  I'm curious if anyone has had good DX with this radio.


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Zacharias Liangas
 
Edited

Νeaely the same thinking in Greece.
My mom proposed me not to test shortwaves even in not so populous roads 

As for the moment had not any problem
The most common I do is to walk across a piscine with the pl330 radio hung on the right hand ,using earbuds and with medium detached 🐜 ena.



Re: 50kw Station Challenge - 2022

Johnny
 

Hi Paul,

I love it!

This is exactly the challenge that I needed for this year for my AM DXing...

Hope you don't mind of I "copy cat" your idea here in the US?

:)


Johnny


County Comm GP-7

Ron Layton
 


Has anyone else bought one of these? I purchased one on December 23 but it won't be here until the second week of January. I also purchased the spare batteries and charger and the base.  I'm curious if anyone has had good DX with this radio.


Re: Another silly (?) question.

FenDrifter
 

Hi again Tony
Once more I’m impressed and grateful for the trouble you’ve gone to in your reply. There’s a lot to digest there, but I think I get the underlying message; experiment! It’s very early days for me but I’m enjoying the occasional surprise as I did about a week back, when I picked up Reach Beyond Australia in the Mati language. To pick up a broadcast from Australia while sitting in my lounge in the UK was pretty impressive I thought. 

Drifter


2021 - Yearly Loggings

Paul Blundell
 

Below is my list of loggings for 2021, I start my list each year so these are all the stations which I logged in 2021, the total is 108 stations.

Those flagged in yellow are station which were logged in 2020 but not 2021.

In 2022, I am going to be spending more time listening to the band and logging stations, my goal is to log 125 stations.



Long Term DXing Project - 1/01/2022

Paul Blundell
 

Time: 18:00 - 18:20
Location: Home, Launceston Tasmania
Radio: Digitech AR-1733 / 3"FSL aerial
Notes: My first session for 2022. A good mix of signals with 3GG on 531kHz being logged at a solid 4. 3RN on 621kHz hit 5 and was the standout of the session. 2CA and 3RPH were both unlogged, in the case of 3RPH on 1179khz, this was a little surprising.



Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

It is our entry level amateur radio licence for Australia. I gained mine in around 2008 but have not renewed it since 2010, I don't have the space for it at the moment  maybe one day.

  • FOUNDATION: The AOCP(F) syllabus and related examination reflects the minimum level of knowledge, skills and experiences required to safely assemble and operate an amateur station at an entry level, without interference to other users and services.

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 10:59 am Phil Pasteur via groups.io, <ppasteur=q.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 05:17 AM, Paul Blundell wrote:
AOCPF
Hey Paul, what is the  AOCPF  that you mention? Just curious. From context I have to think it is some kind of license or permit. Google not helpful.
BTW, I have not had much interest when I have been out with Ultralights and in ear monitors. I get all kinds of people checking me out if I take a telescope out...


Re: Another silly (?) question.

Tony Germanotta
 

Drifter, no problem. We all started out needing basic help at some time. 

The video you referenced is useful.  When you talked about a long wire, I thought you were hunting medium wave stations. A wire to get those stations would be very long indeed, with the best results often on wires that are hundreds of feet long. 

For shortwave stations, the wave lengths are shorter, hence the name. And a random wire of 20 to 30 feet can do wonders on a portable, especially if you can get it out the window and away from light dimmers, aquarium heaters and television sets. Portable radios are designed to be super sensitive so they can use the inefficient whip as a source. 

Antennas have lots of electronic rules but often work despite them. I find that to be the most fun. Folks have used bed springs and rain gutters as antennas. I have a metal frame around my shower doors that works just as well as an outdoor wire so long as no noisy appliances are running 

Once we were on a dxexpedition with thousands of feet of wire strung along the dunes of North Carolina’s outer banks. One of our party arrived after dark and dumped a tangle of wire onto the porch next to our meticulously laid antennas. His heap somehow captured everything we heard, including Indian and Indonesian local stations during daylight — probably by acting like a transformer to our antennas. But the rule books wouldn’t have predicted this. 

So try stuff. Walk around your house. Believe it or not, your whip might work much better in one room. Get a short piece of wire and put clips on both ends. Try attaching one end to the whip and the other to a cold water pipe, if your home is old enough to use copper. 

Run your wire outside the window.  30 feet would probably be the most that radio could handle without overloading.  Sometimes, less wire is better, improving the signal without addding to the noise. Especially if you have powerful radio station towers nearby. A small metal tape measure can be used as an antenna, just extend it as far as helpful and connect it to the radio with that wire with clips. 

And try a counterpoise, like the video suggests.  A ground counterpoise is vital when you are trying to transmit. It may not be as important on receiving. But it could help with fading. 

You can even cut a dipole for the band you are most interested in. That uses two wires of the same length to offset fades, and when resonant to a frequency, it actually amplifies the signal and reduces the noise. 

There are lots of books on antennas. And YouTube videos too.  

Just remember, with radio the best antenna is still reliant on conditions. If the bands are dead, no antenna will open them up. And certain bands work best under darkness, when the sun can’t mess up the ionosphere.  More folks get frustrated with shortwave by trying to find stations during the day on a band that will come alive after they pack it in. 

Good luck. It’s a fun journey. All these signals are constantly flying by us unnoticed until we get a radio and antenna to capture them. 



On Jan 1, 2022, at 6:11 PM, FenDrifter via groups.io <essexmarshman@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Tony
Many thanks for such a detailed and informative reply! I’ve clearly got to be more sure of what I’m doing here, and in answer to Paul’s question the beast I’m making this for is my Tecsun PL-330. I was intending to use this hanging out of my bedroom window, but may now keep it for country trips. I did see this YouTube clip of which I’d appreciate an opinion: https://youtu.be/WjCFLG0DHOo
Am I right in thinking that the lower ‘earth’ lead is connected to the plugs sleeve. If this is clouding the issue please tell me to forget for now, I can take it!
As usual any help greatly appreciated 
Drifter


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Phil Pasteur
 

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 05:17 AM, Paul Blundell wrote:
AOCPF
Hey Paul, what is the  AOCPF  that you mention? Just curious. From context I have to think it is some kind of license or permit. Google not helpful.
BTW, I have not had much interest when I have been out with Ultralights and in ear monitors. I get all kinds of people checking me out if I take a telescope out...


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

I think with Covid, keeping away from people is a really good idea and an extra reason to dx in more remote locations.

Pqul

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 10:06 am Max Heidel, <max.heidel@...> wrote:
Hah, same here. I like to get out in the fresh air with my ham gear and inevitably someone asks if I'm talking to Mars, or little green men. 

Only maybe 99% of the time it's when I'm about to break through a pileup with some DX station, too.

I think it's OK, and I don't mind it, but I do try to minimize it. If I can go somewhere without a lot of people, it's just better all around.


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

That's very true. Glad they got use to you and your dxing.

Paul

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 9:55 am Paul B. Walker, Jr., <walkerbroadcasting@...> wrote:
I DX from the top of my driveway here in McGrath, Alaska... on a very public road. When i first got here, everyone in this small town wondered what i was doing.. and tons asked.. now everyones used to it and seeing me outside in all kidns of weather, so they leave me alone.  Some people did genuinely think i was trying to talk to aliens.



On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 1:42 PM Chris Rogers <crvee8@...> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I find people are generally curious when they see radio equipment set up and like to know what you are doing. I generally tell them it is Amateur (ham) radio as most people have heard of that it is the easiest way to quickly get back to what you are doing rather than talking about MW dxing of which they will probably not understand. 
Of course having the public come up to you often is a real interruption to your hobby so my advice is to stay clear of public parks and find quieter remote bush areas etc away so you don't have these interactions.


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks Chris. A good point about going bush, I will need to find some suitable locations.

Paul

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, 9:42 am Chris Rogers, <crvee8@...> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I find people are generally curious when they see radio equipment set up and like to know what you are doing. I generally tell them it is Amateur (ham) radio as most people have heard of that it is the easiest way to quickly get back to what you are doing rather than talking about MW dxing of which they will probably not understand. 
Of course having the public come up to you often is a real interruption to your hobby so my advice is to stay clear of public parks and find quieter remote bush areas etc away so you don't have these interactions.


Re: Another silly (?) question.

FenDrifter
 
Edited

Hi Tony
Many thanks for such a detailed and informative reply! I’ve clearly got to be more sure of what I’m doing here, and in answer to Paul’s question the beast I’m making this for is my Tecsun PL-330. I was intending to use this hanging out of my bedroom window, but may now keep it for country trips. I did see this YouTube clip of which I’d appreciate an opinion: https://youtu.be/WjCFLG0DHOo
Am I right in thinking that the lower ‘earth’ lead is connected to the plugs sleeve. If this is clouding the issue please tell me to forget for now, I can take it!
As usual any help greatly appreciated 
Drifter


Re: Hobbies in Public Areas

Max Heidel
 

Hah, same here. I like to get out in the fresh air with my ham gear and inevitably someone asks if I'm talking to Mars, or little green men. 

Only maybe 99% of the time it's when I'm about to break through a pileup with some DX station, too.

I think it's OK, and I don't mind it, but I do try to minimize it. If I can go somewhere without a lot of people, it's just better all around.

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