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Re: Air Band Receivers

Dave613
 

airnav covers a limited list of countries, a more world-wide site is skyvector, e.g. https://skyvector.com/airports/Portugal
Skyvector includes charts as well of course which are useful for air band monitoring (location of navaids, waypoints etc)
Dave.


Re: Loggings - 29/07/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Yes it was. Not a station I log that often.


On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, 14:10 Frank Standford, <dxer2k1@...> wrote:
2MV was the best? I am enjoying reading your logs.
 
 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:15 AM
From: "Paul Blundell" <tanger32au@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Loggings - 29/07/2021
Retekess V-115 / Internal Aerial
-------------------------
**MWDxerDB - Report**
Report Date: 07/30/2021
Report Time: 11:04:51
-------------------------

Freq / Name: 0981 - 3HA
Details: Hamilton - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.3025 

Freq / Name: 1116 - 3AK
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1278 - 3EE
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1530 - 2VM
Details: Moree - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.6745 

Freq / Name: 1566 - 3NE
Details: Wangaratta - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1144 


Re: Air Band Receivers

Paul Blundell
 

Here in Australia we have the AR-1733 and AR-1780 that both cover this band.


On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, 14:09 Frank Standford, <dxer2k1@...> wrote:
An air radio is on my list.
 
 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 at 8:47 AM
From: "DX Pedro" <pmm.andrade@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers
Really? I couldn’t find one single Portuguese airport :/
 
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:14 Steve Whitt <mwneditor@...> wrote:

Airnav.com works fine here in the UK

 

Rgds

Steve

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of DX Pedro
Sent: 29 July 2021 15:01
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

 

Sadly, US restricted :(

 

// pedro andrade

 

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Rotman via groups.io <N9JCQ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


This is what I use for airport frequencies:https://www.airnav.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

Radio Reference -- https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/ -- is an excellent source of frequency information of all sorts, including aviation.

 

I have used it for United States information, and there are pull-downs on the right for other countries, although I don't know how complete or accurate the information is for other countries.

 

 

 

--
// pedro andrade


Re: Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index

 

Those numbers sound much more realistic. 

 
 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 6:50 PM
From: "Gary DeBock via groups.io" <D1028Gary@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index
The really astronomical indexes come from low-powered Longwave aeronautical beacons (NDB's) received at ranges over 10,000 km across the equator. 362-WK in Whakatane, New Zealand (25 watts at 11,017 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a wacky index of 440.68, while 366-SF in Springfield, New Zealand (50 watts at 10,977 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a more modest 219.54.

The best medium wave DX index at the same Rockwork Cliff would be for reception of 558-7BU in Burnie, Tasmania, Australia during the August 2017 DXpedition. That 2,000 watt station was received at 13,128 km from Manzanita, for a very modest index of 6.56.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)


Re: Loggings - 29/07/2021

 

2MV was the best? I am enjoying reading your logs.

 
 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:15 AM
From: "Paul Blundell" <tanger32au@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Loggings - 29/07/2021
Retekess V-115 / Internal Aerial
-------------------------
**MWDxerDB - Report**
Report Date: 07/30/2021
Report Time: 11:04:51
-------------------------

Freq / Name: 0981 - 3HA
Details: Hamilton - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.3025 

Freq / Name: 1116 - 3AK
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1278 - 3EE
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1530 - 2VM
Details: Moree - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.6745 

Freq / Name: 1566 - 3NE
Details: Wangaratta - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1144 


Re: Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index

 

Once I get my logs sorted and updated, I will share my scores.

 
 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 at 9:39 AM
From: "Paul Blundell" <tanger32au@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index
Excellent point. I think keeping LW and MW separate is a good idea as the numbers for LW can be much higher. 
6.56 for 7BU is a good effort, sadly they switched to FM a couple of years ago. This has had the advantage of helping me as it has opened up 558kHz for some DX from QLD and WA.
 
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:50 PM Gary DeBock via groups.io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
The really astronomical indexes come from low-powered Longwave aeronautical beacons (NDB's) received at ranges over 10,000 km across the equator. 362-WK in Whakatane, New Zealand (25 watts at 11,017 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a wacky index of 440.68, while 366-SF in Springfield, New Zealand (50 watts at 10,977 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a more modest 219.54.

The best medium wave DX index at the same Rockwork Cliff would be for reception of 558-7BU in Burnie, Tasmania, Australia during the August 2017 DXpedition. That 2,000 watt station was received at 13,128 km from Manzanita, for a very modest index of 6.56.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

 

 

 
 
--
Paul
 


Re: Air Band Receivers

 

An air radio is on my list.

 
 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 at 8:47 AM
From: "DX Pedro" <pmm.andrade@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers
Really? I couldn’t find one single Portuguese airport :/
 
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:14 Steve Whitt <mwneditor@...> wrote:

Airnav.com works fine here in the UK

 

Rgds

Steve

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of DX Pedro
Sent: 29 July 2021 15:01
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

 

Sadly, US restricted :(

 

// pedro andrade

 

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Rotman via groups.io <N9JCQ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


This is what I use for airport frequencies:https://www.airnav.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

Radio Reference -- https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/ -- is an excellent source of frequency information of all sorts, including aviation.

 

I have used it for United States information, and there are pull-downs on the right for other countries, although I don't know how complete or accurate the information is for other countries.

 

 

 

--
// pedro andrade


Re: 1566 KOR HLAZ 12480km before sunset. Barefoot XHDATA D-808

Peter 1956
 

Thanks Paul.

Peter


Re: 1566 KOR HLAZ 12480km before sunset. Barefoot XHDATA D-808

Peter 1956
 

No, the other side of the fence were the sheep are isn't part of the garden.
You are welcome Pedro.

Peter


Loggings - 29/07/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Retekess V-115 / Internal Aerial
-------------------------
**MWDxerDB - Report**
Report Date: 07/30/2021
Report Time: 11:04:51
-------------------------

Freq / Name: 0981 - 3HA
Details: Hamilton - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.3025 

Freq / Name: 1116 - 3AK
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1278 - 3EE
Details: Melbourne - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.089

Freq / Name: 1530 - 2VM
Details: Moree - Commercial - 2000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.6745 

Freq / Name: 1566 - 3NE
Details: Wangaratta - Commercial - 5000w
Notes:  29/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1144 


Re: Air Band Receivers

Paul Blundell
 

I took your message to mean that you could not access the website at all. I don't know if it has information for any area outside the USA.

Paul

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 8:48 AM DX Pedro <pmm.andrade@...> wrote:
Really? I couldn’t find one single Portuguese airport :/

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:14 Steve Whitt <mwneditor@...> wrote:

Airnav.com works fine here in the UK

 

Rgds

Steve

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of DX Pedro
Sent: 29 July 2021 15:01
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

 

Sadly, US restricted :(

 

// pedro andrade

 

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Rotman via groups.io <N9JCQ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


This is what I use for airport frequencies:https://www.airnav.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

Radio Reference -- https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/ -- is an excellent source of frequency information of all sorts, including aviation.

 

I have used it for United States information, and there are pull-downs on the right for other countries, although I don't know how complete or accurate the information is for other countries.

--
// pedro andrade



--
Paul


Re: 1566 KOR HLAZ 12480km before sunset. Barefoot XHDATA D-808

Paul Blundell
 

Nice work Peter.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 3:20 AM Peter 1956 <pe1etr@...> wrote:
Outside in a rural garden in Botswana. Guest appearance by some sheep.

It might have a low index but I think it isn't bad DX. ;)
https://youtu.be/1nP4NWOHDOs

Peter



--
Paul


Re: Air Band Receivers

Paul Blundell
 

Works fine here in Australian.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:00 AM DX Pedro <pmm.andrade@...> wrote:
Sadly, US restricted :(

// pedro andrade


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Rotman via groups.io <N9JCQ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

This is what I use for airport frequencies:https://www.airnav.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

Radio Reference -- https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/ -- is an excellent source of frequency information of all sorts, including aviation.

I have used it for United States information, and there are pull-downs on the right for other countries, although I don't know how complete or accurate the information is for other countries.



--
Paul


Re: Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index

Paul Blundell
 

Excellent point. I think keeping LW and MW separate is a good idea as the numbers for LW can be much higher. 
6.56 for 7BU is a good effort, sadly they switched to FM a couple of years ago. This has had the advantage of helping me as it has opened up 558kHz for some DX from QLD and WA.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:50 PM Gary DeBock via groups.io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
The really astronomical indexes come from low-powered Longwave aeronautical beacons (NDB's) received at ranges over 10,000 km across the equator. 362-WK in Whakatane, New Zealand (25 watts at 11,017 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a wacky index of 440.68, while 366-SF in Springfield, New Zealand (50 watts at 10,977 km from Manzanita, Oregon) results in a more modest 219.54.

The best medium wave DX index at the same Rockwork Cliff would be for reception of 558-7BU in Burnie, Tasmania, Australia during the August 2017 DXpedition. That 2,000 watt station was received at 13,128 km from Manzanita, for a very modest index of 6.56.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)



--
Paul


Re: Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index

Paul Blundell
 

That's a decent effort as my best is 4.609.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:37 PM Peter 1956 <pe1etr@...> wrote:
The only one I can find with an impressive index, was received outdoors next to a car park, in Blackpool UK, on a barefoot XHDATA D-808 at 06:50 UTC on 31st Oct 2019.
1450 USA WPGG Atlantic City NJ 1kW 5449km index 5.449

Peter



--
Paul


Re: Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index

Paul Blundell
 

Those are some interesting numbers, I guess any system / index will have advantages and disadvantages.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:01 PM Frank Standford <dxer2k1@...> wrote:
Ideally we could adjust these values, based on our local area and needs. 
I did some quick maths on a few examples.
 
550.0 Example 1 643.0 5000.0 0.129
550.0 Example 2 2500.0 5000.0 0.500
660.0 Example 3 321.0 200.0 1.605
660.0 Example 4 50.0 100.0 0.500
660.0 Example 5 1000.0 500.0 2.000
660.0 Example 6 4023.0 5000.0 0.805
 
 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 3:05 PM
From: "Paul Blundell" <tanger32au@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Introducing the ULR DXing Chart-Index
Given we are a world wide group, we will always have differences in the way things work and what might work for one group / area might not work as well in another.
 
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 2:29 PM Peter 1956 <pe1etr@...> wrote:
Exactly Paul, so there is no point me taking part in this, as I don't have any low power stations close to me. My long distance catches get a low index score. so no point entering them. This whole index concept seems flawed to me.

Peter

 

 

 
 
--
Paul
 



--
Paul


Re: Loggings - 28/07/2021 - Take 2

Paul Blundell
 

Yes it was. The signal on this was good for a 2kw station at that distance.

Paul

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 3:48 PM Frank Standford <dxer2k1@...> wrote:
It looks like 5MV was the best catch? I find it funny to see stations on non 10k spacing.
 
 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 11:54 AM
From: "Paul Blundell" <tanger32au@...>
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Loggings - 28/07/2021 - Take 2
The below were logged last night between 8:15pm and 8:45pm using my Retekess V-115 and 3" FSL at home.
 
-------------------------
**MWDxerDB - Report**
Report Date: 07/29/2021
Report Time: 11:45:17
-------------------------

Freq / Name: 0567 - 4JK
Details: Julia Creek - National -10000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.2358
 
Freq / Name: 0612 - 4QR
Details: Brisbane National 50000
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.03313 
 
Freq / Name: 0675 - 2CO
Details: Corowa -National - 10000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.0611
 
Freq / Name: 0945 - Bendigo
Details: Bendigo - HPON - 2000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.291 
 
Freq / Name: 0963 - 5SE
Details: Mount Gambier - Commercial - 5000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1366
 
Freq / Name: 1062 - 5MV
Details: Renmark/Loxton - National - 2000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 -ULDXIndex = 0.4905 
 
Freq / Name: 1170 - 2CH
Details: Sydney - Commercial - 5000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1822
 
Freq / Name: 1206 - 2CC
Details: Canberra - Commercial - 5000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1424
 
Freq / Name: 1512 - 2RN
Details: Newcastle - National - 10000w
Notes: 28/07/2021 - ULDXIndex = 0.1039
 



--
Paul


Re: Air Band Receivers

DX Pedro
 

Really? I couldn’t find one single Portuguese airport :/

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 16:14 Steve Whitt <mwneditor@...> wrote:

Airnav.com works fine here in the UK

 

Rgds

Steve

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of DX Pedro
Sent: 29 July 2021 15:01
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

 

Sadly, US restricted :(

 

// pedro andrade

 

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Rotman via groups.io <N9JCQ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


This is what I use for airport frequencies:https://www.airnav.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 4:34 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Air Band Receivers

Radio Reference -- https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/ -- is an excellent source of frequency information of all sorts, including aviation.

 

I have used it for United States information, and there are pull-downs on the right for other countries, although I don't know how complete or accurate the information is for other countries.

--
// pedro andrade


Re: 1566 KOR HLAZ 12480km before sunset. Barefoot XHDATA D-808

DX Pedro
 

Lol! You have a huge backyard, uh? Those a wonderful receptions, man.
Congrats and thanks for sharing 👌🏼

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 18:55 Peter 1956 <pe1etr@...> wrote:
This one is a tad more parochial.
1449 Maldives 6108km Received in local daylight XHDATA D-808 internal ferrite rod.
https://youtu.be/DHPtcRLMD10
Peter

--
// pedro andrade


Re: 1566 KOR HLAZ 12480km before sunset. Barefoot XHDATA D-808

Peter 1956
 

This one is a tad more parochial.
1449 Maldives 6108km Received in local daylight XHDATA D-808 internal ferrite rod.
https://youtu.be/DHPtcRLMD10
Peter

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