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Re: FM DXing - Sangean PR-D18 vs CCRadio-2E - Simple Side-by-Side Test

Jorge Garzón <iberiaDX@...>
 

Right Jay! Well, I browsed  the internal PR-D19 receiver but not a P18. Are their ferrites identical?

On the other hand, is there a good way to extra screen internal circuits by wrapping copper foil?

73!


Re: Two good catches on a barefoot ETÓN ELITE TRAVELER 25-05-2021

Peter 1956
 
Edited

Thanks Jorge.
I bought mine from Amazon UK in 2019 when it was on special offer for GBP 37.
Maybe Amazon ES might stock it?

Peter


Re: FM DXing - Sangean PR-D18 vs CCRadio-2E - Simple Side-by-Side Test

radiojayallen
 

It may be a matter of how low the noise floor is in your area but when I compare the PR-D18 and PR-D19 I get slightly better AM reception on the PR-D19.

Jay


Re: Two good catches on a barefoot ETÓN ELITE TRAVELER 25-05-2021

Jorge Garzón <iberiaDX@...>
 

Well done Peter! This June I will order one to benefit of PI decoding pn FM. And why not, also for MW DXing when the seaspn arrives!
Jorge


Two good catches on a barefoot ETÓN ELITE TRAVELER 25-05-2021

Peter 1956
 

800 TWR Bonaire Etón Elite Traveler 10960km
https://youtu.be/8BEuedpp1o8
1400 Rádio Rio de Janeiro Etón Elite Traveler
Becomes stronger!
https://youtu.be/_oFz2defP4A
Received indoors in Botswana

Peter


Re: Good source for 18650 batteries?

Jorge Garzón <iberiaDX@...>
 

As Jay pointed, I don't remove batteries but havevin mind that I do not have dozens of radios to use. I have a couple of them, a Panasonic RF-2200 and a Grundig Yacht Boy 300, both with batteries always in place. I switch them on at least 15 minutes a month. Everything run smooth with no drainage at all and batteries are still wealthy after a year!!! 

El mar., may. 25, 2021 a 14:10, radiojayallen
<radiojayallen@...> escribió:
For radios I use with any regularity I don' remove the batteries...too inconvenient. I only had the two radios which drained batteries fast while off (they would be down in a few days) were both defective and replacements eliminated the problem, so this shouldn't normally be an issue. With one such radio the audio amp was staying on all the time...the cause of the second one (a PL-990) is yet to be determined but I am waiting for an answer on that from the seller. The replacement PL-990 doesn't have this problem).

To be clear, digital radios do use a small amount of power to keep the clock running but this kind of drain should take a long time to show up so if you use the radio even once a month you shouldn't notice it.

Jay


Re: Good source for 18650 batteries?

radiojayallen
 

For radios I use with any regularity I don' remove the batteries...too inconvenient. I only had the two radios which drained batteries fast while off (they would be down in a few days) were both defective and replacements eliminated the problem, so this shouldn't normally be an issue. With one such radio the audio amp was staying on all the time...the cause of the second one (a PL-990) is yet to be determined but I am waiting for an answer on that from the seller. The replacement PL-990 doesn't have this problem).

To be clear, digital radios do use a small amount of power to keep the clock running but this kind of drain should take a long time to show up so if you use the radio even once a month you shouldn't notice it.

Jay


Re: Improving Pocket UL FM reception

radiojayallen
 

Interesting project! Did you try the DT-880's Narrow FM bandwidth setting for improved selectivity?

Jay


Re: Good source for 18650 batteries?

DX Pedro
 

That's actually works nicely. I do that in my radios and also in my
old car that I drive only on special occasions. From my experience, it
actually prolongs battery life

// pedro andrade

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:19 AM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:

I wonder if people remove batteries when their radios are not in use? I have started doing that as I have more radios than batteries at the moment.

Paul

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 2:01 AM vbifyz <3ym3ym@...> wrote:

My PL-880 started draining batteries while off recently. Before this began, the battery would stay charged for months if not used. Now there is 15mA constant discharge current. The worst part is that it doesn't stop when the voltage is below 3V, killing the cell. I had to throw away 2 cells before I realized what's wrong.
As for the source of 18650 cells, the best source for me is tested cells from discarded laptop batteries.

73, Mike AF7KR


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Paul


940 Brazil Super RBV in daylight barefoot Tecsun PL-360 6910km

Peter 1956
 

Received in Botswana after local sunrise. 25-05-2021.
https://youtu.be/57f_GCL0HhI

Peter


Re: Improving Pocket UL FM reception

Jorge Garzón <iberiaDX@...>
 

Thanks Johnny and Paul!


El mar., may. 25, 2021 a 1:18, Paul Blundell
<tanger32au@...> escribió:
I found that a very interesting read.

Paul

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 1:16 AM Jorge Garzón via groups.io <iberiaDX=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Following the subject about the Sangean DT-800 I tested it with a longer whip against my autoradio SKODA. Hope you find the ppst useful.


Saludos

Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX



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Paul


Re: FM DXing - Sangean PR-D18 vs CCRadio-2E - Simple Side-by-Side Test

Jorge Garzón <iberiaDX@...>
 

Hi Johnny, 
Both Sangean, PR-D18 and PR-D19 are excellent performers on FM and very good on MW (AM). The bigger one with two speakers offers a deep and rich sound that fill a room, but because of that is a battery eater, so better use an AC/DC adaptor. Battery life when connecting earphones is much longer then.

Both models have identical performance on both bands despite the size, and both are out of UL and Small Portable categories, strictly speaking. 

As 'Sangeans' their features come into the scene: Very good sensitivity and reliable selectivity. Surprisingly here sensitivity on FM is brilliant and beats easily the CC pocket, being even slightly better than the DT-800. Also selectivity is better than the Sangean average as they offer an useful narrow/wide filter position and 100/50 kHz steps. It is a pity that the whip reaches just 67 cm unfolded and undoubtely with a longer one (100/115 cm), signals would be even better. 

I tested Sangean PR-D19 on MW with excellent results and some of the videos I made can be found in my Yotube channel. I recorded one about its FM performance Vs a big TECSUN S-8800. That was one of the first clips I recorded and my poor skills as a cameraman are noticeable there but I wanted to test both receivers with a close FM txer and two more, a low-powered and one afar.

Have in mind that the TECSUN telescopic reaches 100 cm and PR-D19 reaches just 67 cm. The price of the bigger radio multiplies by three Sangean's. And even more important, I discovered here that even switching off a receiver, the unfolded whip interacts with the unit being tested, so telescopic antennas must be keep apart to avoid a coupling effect. 


¡ Buen DX! 

El mar., may. 25, 2021 a 1:14, Johnny via groups.io
<jlochey@...> escribió:
Hi all,
 
Just picked up a Sangean PR-D18 purely for it's FM reception.
 
I have to admit that this little radio, while ever so slightly bigger that the true UL definition (very close though), has EXCELLENT FM reception!
 
I would say that in my recent (very non-professional) tests between the PR-D18 and the CCRadio-2E, the PR-D18 was very equal to the CCrane, with each radio sometimes hearing a few things that the other could not.  

The Sangean definitely was as good as the R-108.
 
Reminder:  This test was only performed on the FM band as this was my target!!!
 
Costs:
  • Sangean PR-D18 - $50-ish USD
  • CCRadio-2E - $160-ish USD
 
For what it's worth!
 
Johnny


WNJC 1360 Summertime High-Octane DX Tests

Les Rayburn
 



The Courtesy Program Committee (CPC) of the NRC & IRCA is pleased to announce that WNJC 1360 kHz in Washington Township, New Jersey will be conducting maintenance tests on their automation systems and other equipment during the summer, resulting in some opportunities for DX’ers to log this station. 

Chief Engineer Duke Hamann sent the following notice regarding the summer schedule: 

JUNE SCHEDULE

Nightly for the entire month. June 1-June 30th starting at Midnight EDT (0400 UTC) for one hour. The Burke Controller will be programmed to switch to daytime pattern and power during that hour. Daytime power is 5,000 watts. 

The test material will consist of a brief voice announcement, followed by nothing but Morse Code ID’s at 800 hz, 900 hz, and 1,000 hz. Most of the CW will be high speed at 25 WPM. 

There will also be plenty of sweep tones, 1,000 hz long duration tones, and off hook sound effects. No music, voice, or other distractions. Similar to the KCUP test earlier this year, it should provide the optimum chance to cut through the summer static. 

WNJC AM Coverage Map

JULY SCHEDULE 

July 1st through 7th. Midnight EDT (0400 UTC) to 5 AM EDT (0900 UTC) “Hybrid” DX Test. Test will be daytime power, 5kw but into an omnidirectional pattern. 

Test material will be limited to CW only at 800 hz, 900 hz, and 1,000 hz along with simultaneous transmission of FT-8 computer mode transmissions. 

FT8 is used by amateur radio operators to communicate over long distances at very low power levels. Receiving it is even easier, and can literally be done by putting a microphone from your computer close to your receiver’s speaker. Using FT8 WNJC was received nationwide and in several countries last year. How to get started, try these tutorials or search Google for “Getting Started in FT8.” 


July 4th Special Test. On July 4th WNJC will conduct a special Independence Day event starting at 8 PM EDT (00:00 UTC) until 6 AM EDT (1000 UTC). 

Test material will consist of voice ID’s, jingles, Morse Code IDs, sweep tones, along with special patriotic music and sound effects. 

To assist in keeping DX’ers informed of last minute changes and to better track receptions of the station during it’s maintenance, CE Hamann has created a Facebook group: 

WNJC DX Test Facebook Group:


QSL INFORMATION

QSL’s for the June tests and July 1-7 Tests will be handled by the Courtesy Program Committee of the NRC/IRCA. Our QSL requirements are very specific: 

  • All requests must be submitted via e-mail to: les@...
  • QSL requests must include a recording of the best two minutes of your reception in either .MP3, .WAV, or .MP4 video. No written reports will be accepted for verification. 
  • Requests must be received by August 1st. 
  • Only one QSL per DX’er regardless of how many times you receive the test (s). 
  • If you use a remote SDR or receiver to log the test, we will honor only one QSL per DX’er. No multiple QSL requests. You must clearly state the location of the receiver that you used to receive the station. 

The July 4th Special Test QSL requests will be processed directly by John “Duke” Hamann, Chief Engineer of WNJC. The requirements are: 

  • All requests must be submitted via e-mail to: duxpond.kc2dux@...
  • Only one QSL per DX’er. You may apply for the July 4th Special QSL even if you have already received the test earlier. 



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

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Long Term DX Project - 25/05/2021 - Heritage Forest

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 25/05/2021
Time: 12:15pm
Location: Heritage Forest, Launceston Tasmania.
Radio: AR-1733
Notes: A early afternoon session during my daily walk. Signals were down on normal with nothing being received at anything better than an “average” signal level. 3GG on 531kHz was only logged at a weak signal level. 3WV on 594kHz was also only logged at weak signal level, this was surprising for a 50kw station, the other two 50kw stations hit average signal levels.

 

Long Term DX Project Loggings:

FREQ

CALLSIGN

LOGGED

Area Served

Purpose

Power

531

3GG

WEAK

Warragul

Commercial

5k

549

2CR

UNLOGGED

Cumnock

National

50k

594

3WV

WEAK

Horsham

National

50k

621

3RN

AVERAGE

Melbourne

National

50k

774

3LO

AVERAGE

Melbourne

National

50k

1053

2CA

UNLOGGED

Canberra

Commercial

5k

1179

3RPH

UNLOGGED

Melbourne

Community

5k

1341

HPON GEELONG

WEAK

Geelong

HPON

5k

1422

HPON MELBOURNE

POOR

Melbourne

HPON

5k

1503

3KND

UNLOGGED

Melbourne

Community

5k

 

 

 



Re: Good source for 18650 batteries?

Paul Blundell
 

I wonder if people remove batteries when their radios are not in use? I have started doing that as I have more radios than batteries at the moment.

Paul

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 2:01 AM vbifyz <3ym3ym@...> wrote:
My PL-880 started draining batteries while off recently. Before this began, the battery would stay charged for months if not used. Now there is 15mA constant discharge current. The worst part is that it doesn't stop when the voltage is below 3V, killing the cell. I had to throw away 2 cells before I realized what's wrong.
As for the source of 18650 cells, the best source for me is tested cells from discarded laptop batteries.

73, Mike AF7KR



--
Paul


Re: Improving Pocket UL FM reception

Paul Blundell
 

I found that a very interesting read.

Paul

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 1:16 AM Jorge Garzón via groups.io <iberiaDX=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Following the subject about the Sangean DT-800 I tested it with a longer whip against my autoradio SKODA. Hope you find the ppst useful.


Saludos

Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX



--
Paul


FM DXing - Sangean PR-D18 vs CCRadio-2E - Simple Side-by-Side Test

Johnny
 

Hi all,
 
Just picked up a Sangean PR-D18 purely for it's FM reception.
 
I have to admit that this little radio, while ever so slightly bigger that the true UL definition (very close though), has EXCELLENT FM reception!
 
I would say that in my recent (very non-professional) tests between the PR-D18 and the CCRadio-2E, the PR-D18 was very equal to the CCrane, with each radio sometimes hearing a few things that the other could not.  

The Sangean definitely was as good as the R-108.
 
Reminder:  This test was only performed on the FM band as this was my target!!!
 
Costs:
  • Sangean PR-D18 - $50-ish USD
  • CCRadio-2E - $160-ish USD
 
For what it's worth!
 
Johnny


Re: WENR 1090 ENGLEWOOD, TN DX TEST RESULTS -- MARCH 14, 2021

Peter Laws
 

This was so much fun! Thanks again to the members of the CPC for
putting this (and the others this season) together for us!

Peter
Norman, Okla

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:04 PM Les Rayburn <les@...> wrote:

Attached is a .PDF file that contains test results from the WENR 1090 kHz DX Test on March 14, 2021.

The Courtesy Program Committee of the National Radio Club and International Radio Club of America would like to thank station owner Michael Beverly and Chief Engineer George Hudson for this opportunity to log a daytime-only station.

The late season date didn’t give much opportunity for European reception, but the test was well heard throughout most of the United States.

If your name is on the list for successful receptions, then consider those confirmed. A .PDF eQSL card will be sent via your individual e-mail by CPC volunteer Joseph Miller, KJ80 within a few weeks. Please be patient.

Hope that you’ll all consider joining both the NRC and IRCA. They both offer inexpensive electronic memberships, and your dues help support the efforts to arrange DX Tests. Plus you get first class bulletins, access to technical information in their archives, and the latest news on medium-wave DXing. Join both today.



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

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WENR 1090 ENGLEWOOD, TN DX TEST RESULTS -- MARCH 14, 2021

Les Rayburn
 

Attached is a .PDF file that contains test results from the WENR 1090 kHz DX Test on March 14, 2021. 

The Courtesy Program Committee of the National Radio Club and International Radio Club of America would like to thank station owner Michael Beverly and Chief Engineer George Hudson for this opportunity to log a daytime-only station. 

The late season date didn’t give much opportunity for European reception, but the test was well heard throughout most of the United States. 

If your name is on the list for successful receptions, then consider those confirmed. A .PDF eQSL card will be sent via your individual e-mail by CPC volunteer Joseph Miller, KJ80 within a few weeks. Please be patient. 

Hope that you’ll all consider joining both the NRC and IRCA. They both offer inexpensive electronic memberships, and your dues help support the efforts to arrange DX Tests. Plus you get first class bulletins, access to technical information in their archives, and the latest news on medium-wave DXing. Join both today. 



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

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Re: Additional on CCrane Skywave SSB reception of NOAA weather radio frequencies . . . probably for radio nerds only.

Mark Roberts
 

162.55 was indeed the first weather-band channel, with 162.40 as an alternate. I have a Zenith Royal 92 "Weather Commander" AM/FM radio from 1968 (American-made, probably in Chicago) and it can tune that frequency on the radio. Reception of that particular frequency was crystal-controlled. Still works though it's definitely NOT an ultralight, not with 6 "C" batteries!


On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:16 AM Paul Blundell <tanger32au@...> wrote:
I did read to the end and thought it was interesting about the difference between the numbering of the channels.

On Sun, 2 May 2021, 21:03 Jock Elliott, <jock.elliott@...> wrote:
With regard to the NOAA weather radio reception of the CCrane Skywave SSB, here's some info that I posted Radio Reference that might prove useful for anyone for whom NOAA weather radio is a high priority.

As a friend put it: "This is stuff only a radio nerd would chase down."

What follows is a compilation from various posts in the thread:

Perhaps I am the only guy on planet earth with a "kinda" interest in DXing NOAA weather radio, but there you have it, but we'll get to the interesting part in just a moment.

Today I find myself in Sodus, NY, in the western part of the state, near the shores of Lake Ontario. Rochester, NY, is a bit further to the Southwest. I have with me the following: an Icom V80 with a sharply tuned (I think) commercial antenna that works great on my home repeater (146.94) in Troy, NY; a Uniden BC125AT with a Diamond 77 antenna, and a CCrane Skywave SSB. All receive the NOAA weather channels.

Early this AM, I checked www.wunderground.com for weather in the Sodus area. Snow is expected overnight. So I grab the Uniden 125AT, activate the weather scan function, and find that it receives NOAA weather radio channels 1, 2, and 3, and the audio sound great through my headphones. I try stepping through the weather radio channels on my Icom V80 and find that it receives channels 1, 2, and 3 but with just a wee bit of static in the background. I try switching the antennas between the 125AT and the V80, and there is no appreciable difference.

Now, here's the interesting part: I try the same trick on the CCrane Skywave SSB with its telescoping whip fully extended, and it receives weather channel 1 just fine with excellent audio through the headphones. But channel 2 is way down in the soup, a hair above "barely audible." I try waving the Skywave around, point the whip antenna in different directions and orientations to see if I can improve the signal. I succeed only in nulling it out. Weather radio channel 3 is not audible at all, but channel 4 is coming in well, and so is channel 7 . . . and the other two radios were not receiving channels 4 and 7 at all.

Frankly, I don't know what to make of this. To be clear, I was able to hear that forecast that I needed to hear -- for Wayne County, NY -- on all three radios. But why would there be such a stark difference between the CCrane Skywave SSB and the other two radios?

The V80 and the 125AT "agree" with each; both are receiving NOAA weather radio channels 1, 2, 3. The CCrane Skywave SSB appears to be the anomaly, receiving channels 1, 2 (barely), and 4 and 7, which the V80 and 125AT did not receive.

I just checked, and the NOAA weather radio frequencies occupy a fairly narrow spread: each channel represents one of seven frequencies between 162.400 MHz to 162.550 MHz.

All three tested in my lap at the same location and then tested in another room within inches of each other. I turned one radio on, checked the channels it could receive, turned it off, then tested the next radio, etc. Same results in both cases.

Then one of the respondents to the thread posted: "Did you check the actual frequencies received on the radios? Some radios number the channels from lowest to highest frequency and others use the NOAA assigned channel numbers."

I responded:

Hmmmm. Interesting idea.

Modern Survival Blog -- https://modernsurvivalblog.com/weather-preparedness/noaa-weather-radio-channel-list/ -- reveals that NOAA weather channels may displayed in two different ways, depending upon the manufacturer: chronological or in increasing frequency order.

The Uniden displays Channel numbers and frequencies, so: Ch. 1, 162.550; Ch. 2. 162.400; Ch. 3 162.475. The Icom V80 lists only channel numbers, but no frequencies. However, it receives the same channels as the Uniden.

This appears to be the chronological sequence – the sequence to which the radio frequencies were allocated over time to the service. This ordered sequence is used by (some) weather radio manufacturers.

1=162.550 Mhz
2=162.400 Mhz
3=162.475 Mhz
4=162.425 Mhz
5=162.450 Mhz
6=162.500 Mhz
7=162.525 Mhz

The CCrane Skywave SSB lists only channel numbers. BUT, if it follows the weather radio channels in increasing frequency --

1=162.400 Mhz
2=162.425 Mhz
3=162.450 Mhz
4=162.475 Mhz
5=162.500 Mhz
6=162.525 Mhz
7=162.550 Mhz

Then the CCrane receives Ch1, 162.400 (which is Ch. 2 on the other two radios); Ch 2, 162.425 faintly (Ch. 4 on the other radios), Ch 4, 162.475 (Ch. 3 on Uniden and Icom), and Ch 7, 162.550 (which would be Ch. 1 on the other two radios).

So all three radios are receiving the same frequencies, but with different channel numbers assigned to them . . . and the CCrane appears to be a hair more sensitive, also receiving the 162.425 channel very faintly.

As Inspector Clouseau would say: "The case is sol-ved."

Finally, if you have read this all the way to the end, one might make that case that you have tested positive for being a radio nerd.

Cheers, Jock


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