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Re: Trans Tasman Logging - 11/02/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Another update:

Last night, just after midnight I heard this station the best I ever have. It was booming in and even barefoot, my AR1733 made this sound like a local station.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 13:36 Paul Blundell via groups.io, <tanger32au=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Just as an update to this, on Saturday night around 11:45pm, I was able to log and confirm this station again, this time it was "bare foot" on my AR-1733 receiver. 
The signal was weak and barely heard above the noise but around 11:48pm, it had an opening for around 30 seconds which provided both an on-air ID and also a .co.nz url, during this time the signal was maxing out the signal meter but then fell back into the noise.

Paul

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 2:05 PM Paul Blundell via groups.io <tanger32au=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Gary, it was a bit of a shock to hear this station at such a strong signal level. 

I am working on a list of the most likely NZ stations to target. I did have a few nights planned away next month on the east coast but this has been pushed out until the middle of the year.

Paul

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:37 AM Gary DeBock via groups.io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Nice logging, Paul!

Your peak time for tracking down Kiwi signals should be around your local sunset, especially if you can manage to try this on an eastern Tasmanian ocean beach. You'll probably find quite a few New Zealand signals hitting S9 peaks at those locations, and possibly 558-Fiji (now that 7BU has bailed). 1017-Tonga might also win the horse race with Sydney's 2KY. 

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)



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Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

radiojayallen
 

I'm definitely a fan of the XHATA D-808. Although I don't like the fact they they capitalized (a nice way to say it) on C. Crane's R & D costs for their Skywave SSB, the fact is that the D-808 is a great performer in its size/price range and a great value. Although I don't like Soft Mute,  at least it seems somewhat subtle here and I can live with it. But like the Radiwow R-108 in its category I think these are two little marvels.

Jay


Re: 1110 ARG LS1 Radio Ciudad "La Once Diez" 7979 km

Peter 1956
 

Thanks Keith.
It is routine outside the thunderstorm season, which lasts until the end of April.

Peter


Re: 1110 ARG LS1 Radio Ciudad "La Once Diez" 7979 km

keith beesley
 

Nice catch!

Keith Beesley
Seattle WA USA

On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 11:46:33 PM PST, Peter 1956 <pe1etr@...> wrote:


Barefoot XHDATA D-808
https://youtu.be/HBCUhNSQ_bg

Peter Wilson
Botswana


1110 ARG LS1 Radio Ciudad "La Once Diez" 7979 km

Peter 1956
 

Barefoot XHDATA D-808
https://youtu.be/HBCUhNSQ_bg

Peter Wilson
Botswana


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Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Jorge Garzón
 

I do agree, Les. One of the awful things with Chinese electronic manufacturers is the lack of quality control. I had similar event with a Tecsum PL-330 and I give it back. It took more than two months to recover my money with Aliexpress, so I will never buy again via this Chinese trickster store. Additionally I will use purchaser benefits from Paypal like "shipment fees return" as part of its customer's services.

73

Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX


En miércoles, 3 de marzo de 2021 22:18:04 CET, Les Rayburn <les@...> escribió:


Welcome to the group. 

Quality control with any product is a challenge. It’s clear from reading your review that you received a “lemon” (bad sample) of the D-808.  The unit that you received does not perform similar to what users here have experienced. 

For example, the DSP audio bandwidth settings are quite accurate with 4 kHz and 2.5 kHz being very close to exactly that when viewed on an audio waveform here. 

Performance wise, the XHDATA D-808 ranks among the best portables that I’ve ever owned. I’d recommend purchasing another one before giving up on this stellar performer. 

Best of DX to you. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…” 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Zacharias Liangas via groups.io <zliangas@...> wrote:

Hello Gary  I just entered to  this group
My proposal: tit is better to post your files in pdf form for security reasons

Here is my report /review  for the XHdata 808 with a few interesting opinions after along test before giving it back - I was not impressed for its ...sound
https://zachs-radiopage.blogspot.com/2020/11/808-xh-data-important-notices.html


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Zacharias Liangas
 

If someone looked my page  on the bottom of the article i have two links of Gary's reports - both the supercahrging and the data analysis. 


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Chris Rogers
 

Hi Gary,
Thanks for the review. It is has been sometime since I have played with both the CCrane and the XH-Data. From what I can remember and correct me if I am wrong, the XHData suffers from the "soft mute" issue that can be distracting when scanning the bands looking for DX. If they both use the Si4735 chip it is a pity there isn't a mod to disable the soft mute on the XHData.


DX500 Challenge - 04/03/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 04/03/2021
Time: 7:00am
Location: Home, Launceston Tasmania.
Notes: An early morning session at home for my 500KM DX Challenge. 24 out of 30 stations were logged, those stations that were not logged are highlighted below in yellow. The gap around the middle of the band from 1026kHz to 1278kHz can be seen below. Of those stations which were logged, 3UZ on 927kHz was a struggle with some bad fading.

 

FREQ

CALLSIGN

Area Served

Purpose

Power

531

3GG

Warragul

Commercial

5k

540

7SD

Scottsdale

Commercial

5k

585

7RN

Hobart

National

10k

621

3RN

Melbourne

National

50k

630

7RN

Queenstown

National

400

693

3AW

Melbourne

Commercial

5k

720

3MT

Omeo

National

2k

747

7PB

Hobart

National

3500

774

3LO

Melbourne

National

50k

828

3GI

Sale

National

10k

855

3CR

Melbourne

Community

3500

864

7RPH

Hobart

Community

2k

927

3UZ

Melbourne

Commercial

5k

936

7ZR

Hobart

National

10k

1008

HPON LAUNCESTON

Launceston

HPON

5k

1026

3PB

Melbourne

National

10k

1080

HPON HOBART

Hobart

HPON

5k

1116

3AK

Melbourne

Commercial

5k

1134

3CS

Colac

Commercial

5k

1161

7FG

Fingal

National

1k

1179

3RPH

Melbourne

Community

5k

1224

3EA

Melbourne

National

5k

1242

3GV

Sale

Commercial

5k

1278

3EE

Melbourne

Commercial

5k

1341

HPON GEELONG

Geelong

HPON

5k

1377

3MP

Melbourne

Commercial

5k

1422

HPON MELBOURNE

Melbourne

HPON

5k

1503

3KND

Melbourne

Community

5k

1584

7SH

St Helens

National

100

1593

HPON

Melbourne

HPON

5k


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Les Rayburn
 

Welcome to the group. 

Quality control with any product is a challenge. It’s clear from reading your review that you received a “lemon” (bad sample) of the D-808.  The unit that you received does not perform similar to what users here have experienced. 

For example, the DSP audio bandwidth settings are quite accurate with 4 kHz and 2.5 kHz being very close to exactly that when viewed on an audio waveform here. 

Performance wise, the XHDATA D-808 ranks among the best portables that I’ve ever owned. I’d recommend purchasing another one before giving up on this stellar performer. 

Best of DX to you. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

NRC & IRCA Courtesy Program Committee Chairman
Member WTFDA, MWC

Perseus SDR, Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy + Discovery, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD [XDR Guy Modified], Dennon TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1X, Ray Dees RDS Decoders, Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Kitz Technologies KT-501 Pre-amps, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…” 

On Mar 3, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Zacharias Liangas via groups.io <zliangas@...> wrote:

Hello Gary  I just entered to  this group
My proposal: tit is better to post your files in pdf form for security reasons

Here is my report /review  for the XHdata 808 with a few interesting opinions after along test before giving it back - I was not impressed for its ...sound
https://zachs-radiopage.blogspot.com/2020/11/808-xh-data-important-notices.html


Re: The Iberian Reto URL Long Term Project

Michael.2E0IHW
 

Very detailed and useful loggings, Jorge.

As there is little AM in Europe now, I often listen for Spanish MW  at night :-)

The frequencies listed in your log are most useful.
Do you know of a nocturnal  MW frequency listing *with transmitter ERP* ?

That would highlight frequencies I might be able to hear after midnight.

Thanks!

¿Dónde has emprendido el inglès de una manera tan perfecta?

Miguelito
aka Michael UK


On 03/03/2021 19:51, Jorge Garzón via groups.io wrote:
Hi again,
Maybe details of this long-term project are not relevant for folks in Oz or overseas, but at least I would like to add some details our listening exercise in Spain and Portugal.
...
I work the IN83ag grid square in Cantabria (the northernmost red dot in the map). From there I monitored the entire MW band on 1st March at local cenit time.
...
Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 



Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks for sharing this and some interesting observations.

Paul

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 23:06 Zacharias Liangas via groups.io, <zliangas=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Gary  I just entered to  this group
My proposal: tit is better to post your files in pdf form for security reasons

Here is my report /review  for the XHdata 808 with a few interesting opinions after along test before giving it back - I was not impressed for its ...sound
https://zachs-radiopage.blogspot.com/2020/11/808-xh-data-important-notices.html


Re: The Iberian Reto URL Long Term Project

Paul Blundell
 

Well done and thanks for sharing this, it is good to see this has had such a good response.

Paul

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 06:51 Jorge Garzón via groups.io, <iberiaDX=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi again,
Maybe details of this long-term project are not relevant for folks in Oz or overseas, but at least I would like to add some details our listening exercise in Spain and Portugal.

Eight people from Spain and Portugal have been involved in the first listening session in March. They are marked as a red dot in the Iberian Peninsula map that I am sending here. The Iberian Peninsula includes three countries; Andorra, Portugal and Spain, but just two, Spain and Portugal keep MW transmissions. It measures, more or less, 1.200 km (axis SW-NE) by 935 km (axis NW-SE). Unfortunately we haven't any monitors in the Northwest quadrant so we cannot cover the entire territory.

I work the IN83ag grid square in Cantabria (the northernmost red dot in the map). From there I monitored the entire MW band on 1st March at local cenit time. Midday time was 13:31UTC. We fixed a one hour window including 30 minutes before and after the central time. Our intention choosing that midday time was minimize the ionospheric component of the wave (which is not always possible in winter time, due to the shorter daylight period).

I used the XHDATA 808 and the Tecsun AN-200 loop. That two small pieces of gear pairs really well and the already known good Medium Wave performance of the XHDATA is boosted by the passive loop. I logged 60 stations with the loop and just thirty-six ones without the AN-200. No more to say!

Maximum distance was Radio Béchar from Algeria at 1.308 km, with a weak signal and quick fading. This shows a double component in the wave, the ionospheric and the ground one (this one weaker I guess). But I wonder if the QSB was noticeable because of the interaction of two waves travelling by the ionosphere and arriving here (almost) together. Any idea? 90% of the distance from Béchar to Cantabria is ground (sand, rocks and mountains) so, despite its 400 kW it's a long way to jump!

We will be listening to the band every first week of the month until the end of 2021. We will try to get series and study the propagation and stations heard. 

I also attach a screenshot of the excel sheet with the compiled stations ordered in columns showing the distance got, given signal (S1-5) and some comments (NOTAS). Records in red are those from abroad.

¡73 y buen DX!

Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX


En jueves, 25 de febrero de 2021 8:05:55 CET, Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez <iberiadx@...> escribió:


Hi, 
Paul's (Blundell) projects unfolded our wings and we start a LT project in Spain. Pedro and me (both also members at IberiaDX e-group) proposed the following to Iberian DXers:

Name: Reto OM Iberia Diurna. (Daylight Iberian MW Challenge) 
Dates: 1st week of each month of the year. 
Times: On the Sun cenit time, with a 30' window before and after the exact time. 
Equipment: ULR receivers or small portables. External loops, ferrites, or wires inductively coupled are allowed. Receiver+Antenna system will remain the same every listening session. 
Place: Same grid locator during sessions. 

This activity is aimed to check daylight propagation and variations on groundwave/sky wave components during the year. Also to get up-to-date info on Iberian (E+POR) MW stations. Of course it will show the outstanding performing of small receivers when a good listening spot is chosen, promoting its use. 

¡Saludos y buen DX! 

Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX


Re: The Iberian Reto URL Long Term Project

Jorge Garzón
 
Edited

Hi again,
Maybe details of this long-term project are not relevant for folks in Oz or overseas, but at least I would like to add some details to our listening exercise in Spain and Portugal.
 
Eight people from Spain and Portugal have been involved in the first listening session in March. They are marked as a red dot in the Iberian Peninsula map that I am sending here. The Iberian Peninsula includes three countries; Andorra, Portugal and Spain, but just two, Spain and Portugal keep MW transmissions. Unfortunately we haven't any monitors in the Northwest quadrant so we cannot cover the entire territory. Iberia measures, more or less, 1.200 km (axis SW-NE) by 935 km (axis NW-SE). 
 
I work the IN83ag grid square in Cantabria (the northernmost red dot in the map). From there I monitored the entire MW band on 1st March at local cenit time. Midday time was 12:31UTC. We fixed a one hour window including 30 minutes before and after the central time. Our intention choosing that midday time was minimize the ionospheric component of the wave (which is not always possible in winter time, due to the shorter daylight period).
 
I used the XHDATA 808 and the Tecsun AN-200 loop. That two small pieces of gear pairs really well and the already known good Medium Wave performance of the XHDATA is boosted by the passive loop. I logged 60 stations with the loop and just thirty-six ones without the AN-200. No more to say!
 
Maximum distance was Radio Béchar from Algeria at 1.308 km, with a weak signal and quick fading. This shows a double component in the wave, the ionospheric and the ground one (this one weaker I guess). But I wonder if the QSB was noticeable because of the interaction of two waves travelling by the ionosphere and arriving here (almost) together. Any idea? 90% of the distance from Béchar to Cantabria is ground (sand, rocks and mountains) so, despite its 400 kW it's a long way to jump!
 
We will be listening to the band every first week of the month until the end of 2021. We will try to get series and study the propagation and stations heard. 
 
I also attach a screenshot of the excel sheet with the compiled stations ordered in columns showing the distance got, given signal (S1-5) and some comments (NOTAS). Records in red are those from abroad.
 
¡73 y buen DX!
 
Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX
 
 
En jueves, 25 de febrero de 2021 8:05:55 CET, Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez <iberiadx@...> escribió:
 
 
Hi, 
Paul's (Blundell) projects unfolded our wings and we start a LT project in Spain. Pedro and me (both also members at IberiaDX e-group) proposed the following to Iberian DXers:
 
Name: Reto OM Iberia Diurna. (Daylight Iberian MW Challenge) 
Dates: 1st week of each month of the year. 
Times: On the Sun cenit time, with a 30' window before and after the exact time. 
Equipment: ULR receivers or small portables. External loops, ferrites, or wires inductively coupled are allowed. Receiver+Antenna system will remain the same every listening session. 
Place: Same grid locator during sessions. 
 
This activity is aimed to check daylight propagation and variations on groundwave/sky wave components during the year. Also to get up-to-date info on Iberian (E+POR) MW stations. Of course it will show the outstanding performing of small receivers when a good listening spot is chosen, promoting its use. 
 
¡Saludos y buen DX! 
 
Jorge Garzón Gutiérrez "IberiaDX" 
(EB7EFA · EA1036 SWL · BDXC Member 1409) 
QTH: IN83ag / 43º15' N · 03º56' W
Urb. San Roque 95, casa 5 (Villasevil)
39698 Santiurde de Toranzo (ESPAÑA - SPAIN)
..................................................................................
Blog: IberiaDX  · Twitter: @IberiaDX


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Dave613
 

The D-808 manual is obviously a place where some cost savings were made, e.g. mine refers to a Charge button to enable battery charging, there is no such button on my example of the radio, just plug in and it charges.
Re pricing: radiwow.com currently lists it as available for 75USD with free shipping (at least to Canada). I bought mine from that site, took a while to arrive but otherwise all was good. I think your review overall verdict is spot on; if you can live with the effectively non-existent warranty and sketchy manual then it's a lot of radio for 75US.
Dave.


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Zacharias Liangas
 

Hello Gary  I just entered to  this group
My proposal: tit is better to post your files in pdf form for security reasons

Here is my report /review  for the XHdata 808 with a few interesting opinions after along test before giving it back - I was not impressed for its ...sound
https://zachs-radiopage.blogspot.com/2020/11/808-xh-data-important-notices.html


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Gary DeBock
 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:32 AM, hamrad45 wrote:
Thanks.  Just uploaded a quick video on your great article.  Have a great day.
Thanks Tom (and Paul),

Your interest is appreciated!

73, Gary


Re: From the 2021 Ultralight Radio Shootout-- XHDATA D-808 Full Review

Gary DeBock
 

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 10:48 AM, Dave613 wrote:
Thanks for the great review, glad you highlighted the possible design plagiarism (I feel less guilty about owning the 808 since I also have the CC Crane original...). One thing I noticed is you wrote that your radio did not have squelch on Air Band; mine (bought about 18mo ago) actually does.
On my example:
Hardware: squelch available on all bands (including air);
Manual: states squelch only available on air.
Hi Dave,

Hmm-- very interesting! My D-808 manual says nothing about a squelch capability, so apparently not all D-808 manuals are created equal.

I'm current on an ocean coast DXpedition and unable to investigate further, but the 2021 Shootout article will be updated to include your information. Thanks!

Gary DeBock (in Manzanita, OR, USA)


Hobby Time

Paul Blundell
 

I have recently come across this article which I found very interesting.
https://blog.rescuetime.com/hobbies-schedule-leisure-time/

Generally speaking, how time do you spend per week on your hobbies? Has this changed in the past year due to Covid-19 and the effects of this?

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