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Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Gary DeBock
 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 01:12 PM, Alex wrote:
As far as the rules 20 inches in cubic volume correct?? Also are the awards still being issued, and if so to whom do I submit logs?
Welcome back to the group, Alex!  Yes, the SRF-29, 39, 49 and 59 series of analog Ultralights have been discontinued by Sony for quite a while. Occasionally NOS units will show up on eBay, though, with prices all over the map.

The Ultralight Awards program has been in limbo for a few years now, although there has been recent discussion of starting it back up if we get more volunteers. Unfortunately I currently lack time to prepare the certificates, and we would need additional volunteer(s) to screen the applications. As for the 20 cubic inch (volume) size limit for Ultralight Radio classification, it is still in effect for North America, although Jorge Garzon of Spain has requested that it be changed in favor of a "portable" designation for a new European Awards program, which is fine with me. For quite a while we have welcomed any portable radio user to report his loggings on this site, and I personally have no problem sharing all of our group's resources with any portable radio user worldwide. Some of the newer portables like the XHDATA D-808 have  a size very close to the 20 cubic inch limit, but slightly exceed it. I still use both the XHDATA D-808 and CC Skywave side by side in all-out transoceanic DXing on the ocean coast, and it doesn't really bother me that one of them isn't an official "Ultralight." :-)

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)




 

 


Trans Tasman Loggings - 15/02/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 15/02/2021
Time: 10:00 PM
Location: Home, Launceston Tasmania
Notes: A night time session from home. My aim was tracking down as many New Zealand statins as possible.

 

FREQ

CALLSIGN

LOGGED

RADIO

AERIAL

Area Served

792

Gold AM

WEAK

AR-1733

3" FSL

Hamilton

909

Star

AVERAGE

AR-1733

3" FSL

Napier-Hastings

1035

Newstalk ZB

GOOD

AR-1733

3" FSL

Wellington

1098

Newstalk ZB

WEAK

AR-1733

3" FSL

Christchurch


 https://ultralightradiodxing.blogspot.com/2021/02/trans-tasman-loggings-15022021.html


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Alex
 
Edited

Hey Gary,

 

Nice to hear from you again sir!!!! BTW, you adjusted the loop stick antenna on the SRF-39 and it was working great till the volume pot started to wear out.... :/.  And I now see Sony disco'd the SRF-59 and -37 Series of radios, Even "No-name" AM/ FM radios are disappearing...Gee I hope no one has a catastrophe that knocks out the power, phone lines thus no internet / cell phones or podcasts......:P

As far as the rules 20 inches in cubic volume correct?? Also are the awards still being issued, and if so to whom do I submit logs?

 

  Alex (SW OH, USA )


Re: Portable FM Session - 13/02/2021 - Mt George Lookout

Paul Blundell
 

Thanks Jay.

Very interesting to hear the differences between our FM bands. We have a few low power stations down the bottom end for church groups, horse racing and the like.

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 01:16 radiojayallen, <radiojayallen@...> wrote:
Paul, 

Great photos! And very interesting as this shows a tremendous difference in FM saturation between your location and what we experience here in parts of the US. I moved from Connecticut to Kentucky last Spring and in both locations we find FM signals on just about every frequency on the dial. In fact one of the big challenges to home hobby FM broadcasting is finding a frequency clear enough to use. The only frequencies which don't have signals on them are adjacent to strong locals but even those frequencies often show sings of weak out of town signals. On a selective radio you can tune the band and hear something on each frequency, one after the other.

This is partly due to the proliferation of low power FM translators....FM allocations allocated to the owners of AM only stations to help them compete financially by having an FM voice...our FM band is completely crowded in many locations. Here selectivity rules on FM, and its lucky that modern DSP radios usually et you separate each frequency.

Jay


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Pedro Porres
 

Hi Alex, from my experience I can recommend the Sangean DT-250 that I have been using for a month and with which I am starting at the same time in the Dx of MW and in the Ultralight Dx. It is simple but functional, it has sensitivity and the batteries last a long time. I work without an auxiliary antenna, in this way I try to get the most out of the receiver, but this is, I suppose, because I am starting, after a while, I will possibly need an antenna to catch new stations.

Pedro Porres.
Córdoba, Spain.


Re: KRLD 1080 Dallas Logged In Alaska!

Russ Edmunds
 

He was - I met him at TIC downtown for a tour at some point in the first half of the 1970's. He had been a college classmate of my father's, on a trip ultimately to Boston.

Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of radiojayallen via groups.io <radiojayallen@...>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 9:08 AM
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] KRLD 1080 Dallas Logged In Alaska!
 
Sorry, I don't recognize that name. I was with CBS from 1994 to 2016 and 'TIC became part of our group and moved form the Gold Building in Downtown Hartford to our Farmington facility a few years later...maybe around 1996 or so.. Hal must have been at WTIC earlier than that.

Jay


Re: Portable FM Session - 13/02/2021 - Mt George Lookout

radiojayallen
 

Paul, 

Great photos! And very interesting as this shows a tremendous difference in FM saturation between your location and what we experience here in parts of the US. I moved from Connecticut to Kentucky last Spring and in both locations we find FM signals on just about every frequency on the dial. In fact one of the big challenges to home hobby FM broadcasting is finding a frequency clear enough to use. The only frequencies which don't have signals on them are adjacent to strong locals but even those frequencies often show sings of weak out of town signals. On a selective radio you can tune the band and hear something on each frequency, one after the other.

This is partly due to the proliferation of low power FM translators....FM allocations allocated to the owners of AM only stations to help them compete financially by having an FM voice...our FM band is completely crowded in many locations. Here selectivity rules on FM, and its lucky that modern DSP radios usually et you separate each frequency.

Jay


Re: KRLD 1080 Dallas Logged In Alaska!

radiojayallen
 

Sorry, I don't recognize that name. I was with CBS from 1994 to 2016 and 'TIC became part of our group and moved form the Gold Building in Downtown Hartford to our Farmington facility a few years later...maybe around 1996 or so.. Hal must have been at WTIC earlier than that.

Jay


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Paul Blundell
 

Interesting members number, I am a member of the IRCA group and find it to be very active. I find both groups have a place in the hobby overall. 

I believe that the ultralight discussion started on the IRCA group but then was split off, this was before my time.

Paul


On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 22:23 Jock Elliott, <jock.elliott@...> wrote:
Mike,

Thanks for the info!

While searching for the groups.io IRCA group, I discovered some interesting statistics regarding members on groups.io: the IRCA group has 341 members, the MW DXer User Group has 140 members, and the Ultralight Radio DXing Enthusiasts has . . . drumroll, please . . . 1405 members (if the numbers reported by groups.io is correct).

My CCrane 2E has arrived, and it is bigger and heavier than I expected, but still I am enjoying it. If anyone here is interested in my impressions and user experience with the 2E, let me know.

In the meantime, I am really looking forward to Gary's upcoming shoot-out of Ultralights.

Cheers, Jock


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Jock Elliott
 

Mike,

Thanks for the info!

While searching for the groups.io IRCA group, I discovered some interesting statistics regarding members on groups.io: the IRCA group has 341 members, the MW DXer User Group has 140 members, and the Ultralight Radio DXing Enthusiasts has . . . drumroll, please . . . 1405 members (if the numbers reported by groups.io is correct).

My CCrane 2E has arrived, and it is bigger and heavier than I expected, but still I am enjoying it. If anyone here is interested in my impressions and user experience with the 2E, let me know.

In the meantime, I am really looking forward to Gary's upcoming shoot-out of Ultralights.

Cheers, Jock


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Mike Sanburn
 

Welcome !! You might also get in contact with the International Radio Club of America.  It is mostly involved with AM DXing and has many technical articles/reprints available.  They have a Facebook Page, message board on groups.io , and a website which is listed below:
www.ircaonline.org    ---Mike Sanburn
Visit International Radio Club of America. Browse information and resources for International Radio Club of America
www.ircaonline.org


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of Jock Elliott <jock.elliott@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 12:41 PM
To: main@ultralightdx.groups.io <main@ultralightdx.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???
 
First, recognize that I am the new guy here, so I have no standing in terms of experience. Second, please recognize that I am not trying to alter or change the Ultralight DX group. One of the very cool things about this group is that its members seem to be focused on squeezing the very last erg of performance out of their radios.

Having said that, as I poke around the MW DX world, there doesn't seem to be a group that is focused on optimizing the tools and techniques of portable radios in general for MW DX. If such a group exists, would you point me in the right direction?

If such a group does not exist, is it possible that there is room for heavyweight and mediumweight classes of portables here?

Cheers, Jock



Re: Trans Tasman Logging - 11/02/2021

Paul Blundell
 

Just as an update to this, on Saturday night around 11:45pm, I was able to log and confirm this station again, this time it was "bare foot" on my AR-1733 receiver. 
The signal was weak and barely heard above the noise but around 11:48pm, it had an opening for around 30 seconds which provided both an on-air ID and also a .co.nz url, during this time the signal was maxing out the signal meter but then fell back into the noise.

Paul


On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 2:05 PM Paul Blundell via groups.io <tanger32au=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Gary, it was a bit of a shock to hear this station at such a strong signal level. 

I am working on a list of the most likely NZ stations to target. I did have a few nights planned away next month on the east coast but this has been pushed out until the middle of the year.

Paul

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:37 AM Gary DeBock via groups.io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Nice logging, Paul!

Your peak time for tracking down Kiwi signals should be around your local sunset, especially if you can manage to try this on an eastern Tasmanian ocean beach. You'll probably find quite a few New Zealand signals hitting S9 peaks at those locations, and possibly 558-Fiji (now that 7BU has bailed). 1017-Tonga might also win the horse race with Sydney's 2KY. 

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)



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Paul



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Paul


Transporting FSL's

Paul Blundell
 

I am looking for any suggestions on the best way to transport my FSL and what methods you have / do use? 
This is my current setup: https://ultralightradiodxing.blogspot.com/2020/10/ultralight-radio-dxing-kit-october-2020.html

Ideally I would prefer to keep it the "right way up" as much as possible.

Paul


Portable FM Session - 13/02/2021 - Mt George Lookout

Paul Blundell
 

Date: 13/02/2021
Time: 3:00 PM  
Location: Mt George Lookout, Tasmania
Notes: A mid-afternoon scan of the FM broadcast band. This location provided excellent signals from the North West coast, including a number logged from Round Hill.

 

FREQUENCY

CALLSIGN

87.6

TOTE SPORT RADIO

88

RELIGIOUS STATIONS

89.3

LA FM

90.1

CHILLI FM

90.5

ABC BURNIE

90.9

TRIPLE J

91.7

ABC NORTHERN TASMANIA

92.5

ABC NEWS RADIO

93.3

ABC CLASSIC FM

94.1

ABC RADIO NATIONAL

95.3

TAMAR FM

96.9

MEANDER VALLEY FM

97.7

TOTE SPORT RADIO (BURNIE)

98.1

WAY FM

98.9

7AD

100.5

ABC DEVONPORT

101.3

TOTE SPORT RADIO (DEVONPORT)

102.1

ABC DEVONPORT

102.5

ABC DEVONPORT

103.7

CITY PARK RADIO

104.7

COAST FM DEVONPORT

105.3

WAY FM

107.7

SEA FM


 





Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Gary DeBock
 

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:17 AM, Jorge Garzón wrote:
Here in Europe we are not as used in North America or in Oz to listen to the radio with small pocket radios and most of the people has small portables but slightly bigger in size than ULRs. 
 
I told Gary that probably we could stamp on the award the portable model used, so we could repeat the Challenge in the future with another model. Here in Europe we use portable receivers as big as 30 squared inches and in fact the Challenge remain the same, as the limiting factors are the noise, the power stations and of course the propagation. So, trying to promote the hobby... Would have any problem to extend the portable size to 30 sq. inches? Or maybe we may add a new category to allow bigger portables up to 30 sq. inches, for instance?
 
Hello Jorge,

Thank you for your excellent comments!

Our Ultralight radio group has always tried to be as inclusive as possible, and we have always welcomed DXing reports with any size of portable, not just the "official" Ultralight-sized portables of 20 cubic inches or less. Your completion of the Ross DX Challenge with a Degen DE1103 is an outstanding achievement, and you should be proud of that accomplishment.

Actually, the only reasons we have the "official" Ultralight radio requirements is for the Awards Program and the Records List-- but since both the North American Awards Program and the Worldwide Records List have been inactive for some time, this distinction in the size of the portable radio hasn't really mattered for a long time.

The European DXers are welcome to use any size of portable for a European Awards program, although it would probably be best for the European DXers to refer to them as "portables" instead of "ultralights," since there are some portables (like the Panasonic RF-2200) that definitely are not "ultralight." We would feel very honored to have the European portable DXers remain as part of our group, and share resources, DXing tips and friendship with them. In my own personal DXing, I have used both the CC Skywave and the XHDATA D-808 as transoceanic DXing portables, despite the fact that the XHDATA D-808 is clearly over the 20 cubic inch size limit. The challenge of chasing DX is the same on both portables, and they can clearly work together for DXing success-- just like the North American Ultralight Radio DXers and the European Portable DXers!

73 y Buena Suerte,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
Ultralight Radio Group Co-Founder
  


Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Paul Blundell
 

That to me sounds like a good idea, keep the focus on what we do and add classes for various sizes / types of radios.

Paul

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 07:41 Jock Elliott, <jock.elliott@...> wrote:
First, recognize that I am the new guy here, so I have no standing in terms of experience. Second, please recognize that I am not trying to alter or change the Ultralight DX group. One of the very cool things about this group is that its members seem to be focused on squeezing the very last erg of performance out of their radios.

Having said that, as I poke around the MW DX world, there doesn't seem to be a group that is focused on optimizing the tools and techniques of portable radios in general for MW DX. If such a group exists, would you point me in the right direction?

If such a group does not exist, is it possible that there is room for heavyweight and mediumweight classes of portables here?

Cheers, Jock



Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Jock Elliott
 

First, recognize that I am the new guy here, so I have no standing in terms of experience. Second, please recognize that I am not trying to alter or change the Ultralight DX group. One of the very cool things about this group is that its members seem to be focused on squeezing the very last erg of performance out of their radios.

Having said that, as I poke around the MW DX world, there doesn't seem to be a group that is focused on optimizing the tools and techniques of portable radios in general for MW DX. If such a group exists, would you point me in the right direction?

If such a group does not exist, is it possible that there is room for heavyweight and mediumweight classes of portables here?

Cheers, Jock



Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Paul Blundell
 

I think we would need to look at the advantages of this and where we would draw the line. 

Gary's work on FSL's has changed the hobby, I don't know if allowing larger radios takes some of the point and purpose of the ultralight part away.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 06:56 Michael.2E0IHW via groups.io, <blumu=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Jorge, según yo, tienes razón en todo lo que dices...

I have been thinking for some time that it might be time for our uldx  clan to  widen its parameters.
A
longside a  uldx-defined tiny receiver,  a   (much larger, heavy, unaffordable-for-many)  FSL 
kinda queries the notion of "ultralight".

The Americas still have many AM broadcasters; in Europe few are left,  and more are closing down.

What think ye, brethren?

Michael UK

On 14/02/2021 18:17, Jorge Garzón via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to propose something that could give us, in my opinion, new ways for the hobby and maybe the group. I finished my 'Ross DX Challenge' with more than 400 stations heard (but 378 identified), >posted here: https://iberiadx.wordpress.com/the-ultralight-dx-challenge-2020/ < but as I used my DEGEN DE1103 which is about 28 squared inches, 'technically' I do not deserve it. I did not have an ULR at the time being, and after that I got a couple of them and I am testing with them. Additionally we have been promoting the ULR DXing and the first FSL anteena is on the way, as you probably know.

Here in Europe we are not as used in North America or in Oz to listen to the radio with small pocket radios and most of the people has small portables but slightly bigger in size than ULRs. 

I told Gary that probably we could stamp on the award the portable model used, so we could repeat the Challenge in the future with another model. Here in Europe we use portable receivers as big as 30 squared inches and in fact the Challenge remain the same, as the limiting factors are the noise, the power stations and of course the propagation. So, trying to promote the hobby... Would have any problem to extend the portable size to 30 sq. inches? Or maybe we may add a new category to allow bigger portables up to 30 sq. inches, for instance?

On the other side I would like to help by translating the new coming 'ULR' list document into Spanish to spread their use and help to promote this outstanding side of DXing.

73 y saludos.

Jorge



Re: Returning to the world of ULR DXing, what's on the approved list these days???

Michael.2E0IHW
 

Jorge, según yo, tienes razón en todo lo que dices...

I have been thinking for some time that it might be time for our uldx  clan to  widen its parameters.
A
longside a  uldx-defined tiny receiver,  a   (much larger, heavy, unaffordable-for-many)  FSL 
kinda queries the notion of "ultralight".

The Americas still have many AM broadcasters; in Europe few are left,  and more are closing down.

What think ye, brethren?

Michael UK

On 14/02/2021 18:17, Jorge Garzón via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to propose something that could give us, in my opinion, new ways for the hobby and maybe the group. I finished my 'Ross DX Challenge' with more than 400 stations heard (but 378 identified), >posted here: https://iberiadx.wordpress.com/the-ultralight-dx-challenge-2020/ < but as I used my DEGEN DE1103 which is about 28 squared inches, 'technically' I do not deserve it. I did not have an ULR at the time being, and after that I got a couple of them and I am testing with them. Additionally we have been promoting the ULR DXing and the first FSL anteena is on the way, as you probably know.

Here in Europe we are not as used in North America or in Oz to listen to the radio with small pocket radios and most of the people has small portables but slightly bigger in size than ULRs. 

I told Gary that probably we could stamp on the award the portable model used, so we could repeat the Challenge in the future with another model. Here in Europe we use portable receivers as big as 30 squared inches and in fact the Challenge remain the same, as the limiting factors are the noise, the power stations and of course the propagation. So, trying to promote the hobby... Would have any problem to extend the portable size to 30 sq. inches? Or maybe we may add a new category to allow bigger portables up to 30 sq. inches, for instance?

On the other side I would like to help by translating the new coming 'ULR' list document into Spanish to spread their use and help to promote this outstanding side of DXing.

73 y saludos.

Jorge



CFAJ 1220 St. Catharines, Ont Logged in ALASKA!

Paul B. Walker, Jr.
 

Yeah, I know what you're probably thinking...impossible! I wouldn't have believed it had I not heard it with my own two ears and even though I did, I still have a hard time believing it. 

On Thursday February 11, I had a fairly decent signal of classical music which is none other than CJRB Boissevan, Manitoba. I had some spanish language stuff bubble up which I assumed to be XEB Mexico City with was further fueled by some fairly LOUD classic hits music I heard a minute or two later.. Mexican news/talk/sports stations are known to play music at night.

Boy was I surprised AND FLOORED when I heard the station ID. At 1026pm AK Time "Stoney End" by Barbara Streisand faded up very nicely and overtook the channel.. 45 seconds in classical music began to take over but if you listen at about 1 minute 12 seconds, you'll hear "Another hour of great music on 1220 CFAJ Saint Catharines, Niagra"

Here's the audio of it:

What makes this VERY interesting is .. what was CFAJ operating with? They had been testing with 1000 Watts non directional but Scott Fyb ush surmises they are on their 10kw 9 tower night pattern by now. 

Directly from the relevant Canadian databases, here's the 10kw 9 tower CFAJ night pattern: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UtHrS-64kYGL1LKyJKWkCpWbT65H1S4x/view?usp=sharing

Paul Walker
McGrath, Alaska 
CC Skywave and 5" DeBock AmazeBalls FSL Antenna

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