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Re: ETM scan on MW and LW Tecsun PL-360

Phillip Fimiani
 

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73
Phil
KD2HTN / WA2069SWL
Long: 34.210293 Lat:-78.057048
FM04xf 30dl


ETM scan on MW and LW Tecsun PL-360

Peter 1956
 

I bought this radio, as the antenna socket works on MW and LW, unusual for a Silabs DSP chip equipped portable.
Just using the included plug-in antenna in this case.​
https://youtu.be/-nw8i9wjDfk​
Peter Wilson​
Blackpool UK


Re: 531 kHz UnID-- Ausralian Assistance Needed (Again)

Gary DeBock
 

Thanks Will,

<<<   I wouldn't 100% rule out 6DL and I was actually going to suggest that as a 'differential diagnosis'. The national weather at the start of your clip makes 6DL a possibility because that's exactly what the ABC does at the conclusion of its news bulletins. The more detailed weather report could be regional WA weather; the showers and thunderstorms with SE winds could have been for places like Albany and other parts of southern WA, or alternatively for the far northern Kimberley region.   >>>

That sounds very interesting, but other than going back to Hawaii and listening on 531 kHz again, there's not much more I can do to narrow this down to 6DL :-) I checked the ABC website for a Podcast, but in a cost-cutting move they seem to have deleted all of them over 8 days old. The lady's voice and speaking style are pretty disinctive, though, so I'm sure that she will show up again in the multiple Oz recordings made during this trip, or on our wacky plunging cliff on the Oregon coast.

Speaking of which, it's much easier to make sure of 531-6DL reception there-- you just record an AFL football game, and you know it's got to be Dalwallinu  :-)

73, Gary


Re: 531 kHz UnID-- Ausralian Assistance Needed (Again)

William Renton
 

Hi Gary,

No problems- I enjoy helping others identify their DX signals. 

I wouldn't 100% rule out 6DL and I was actually going to suggest that as a 'differential diagnosis'. The national weather at the start of your clip makes 6DL a possibility because that's exactly what the ABC does at the conclusion of its news bulletins. The more detailed weather report could be regional WA weather; the showers and thunderstorms with SE winds could have been for places like Albany and other parts of southern WA, or alternatively for the far northern Kimberley region. 

Regards,

Will. 


Re: 531 kHz UnID-- Ausralian Assistance Needed (Again)

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Will,

Thanks very much for listening to the 531 recording, and for your assessment (which are greatly appreciated).

It would seem that the overall evidence would indicate 4KZ for this signal, and since I have another good 4KZ recording from Hawaii, it's OK if this one ends up without definite ID clues. There was an outside chance of tracking down 6DL from Western Australia, so I thought I would investigate all possibilities. 531 is a very productive frequency at our Rockwork ocean cliff in Oregon state, with 6DL, 4KZ, 2PM, PI and More FM all having been received there within the last couple of years (with Ultralights and FSL's). Of course that's no guarantee that they will show up in Hawaii :-) Thanks again.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)


Re: 531 kHz UnID-- Ausralian Assistance Needed (Again)

William Renton
 

Hi Gary,

The weather report and its presenter sounds much like the very detailed reports given on 4KZ. I could only conclusively identify 'showers and thunderstorms' and 'SE winds', a common forecast for Far North Queensland in November. The weather report is usually followed by an ID 'on the KZ radio network' but I think your signal fades at the critical time. The female presenter is probably from a syndicated show so it's not much assistance. 

At the very start of the clip I think some national weather was given; I think I can hear 'Canberra' and 'Townsville' mentioned. This would rule out the Kiwis. Sorry I couldn't find a 'smoking gun' on this occasion. 


Best regards,

Will. 


Found a ton of Japan market ultralights on ebay

Thomas Kane KC1MAT
 

Looks like this guy has found a ton of them: https://www.ebay.com/usr/fixit-ez I emailed him asking for recommendations and he was helpful.


Re: New style FSL Part 2

mediumwavedx
 

Thank you for your reply Dean.

Very interesting about the flux concentration.

Keep at it. Looking forward to seeing what you find.

Bill


Top Ten Asian Blasters in Hawaii

Gary DeBock
 

     Asian propagation is obviously enhanced in Hawaii-- not to mention DU propagation, South American propagation and that from many other areas. The "big gun" blasters are different from the Japanese and Korean regulars in the Pacific Northwest, however. The Taiwan-directed Chinese propaganda stations on 549, 783 and 909 test out your radio's crunch resistance every sunrise, along with a completely different set of big guns like 558-JOCR and 918-RNK in Cambodia. For those who would like to experience these Hawaiian beach blasters, recordings from the top ten Asians at Poipu, Kauai last month are posted below.

549  CNR5 (Zhonghua zhi Sheng)   Fujian, China   1200 kW   This propaganda mega-station is only 1 kHz away from 550-Maui, but the Hawaiian pest is little more than cannon fodder for the Taiwan-directed female speech at 1520 UTC on 11-5  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/gfzalx9gc3z3isdjlkfinit3oprjhiy0
558  JOCR   Kobe, Japan   20 kW   Overwhelming S9 strength is typical from this Japanese commercial blaster, such as at 1523 on 11-5  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6mki3j53ywjd8zye2kuuk1n6xnfwymy7
603  CRI   Dongfang, China   300 kW   The Vietnamese program's Chinese lessons are presumably beamed south, but a listener in Hawaii could have armchair reception on most mornings, such as at 1603 on 11-3  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/msey1vpfj7ns1o4rkwt78i39u5zktxhv
630  DZMM   Quezon City, Philippines   50 kW   Depending on propagation, this Tagalog blaster on our domestic frequency could make you wonder if Hawaii has a new local pest, as at 1623 on 11-2  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/jwcaltkpa4pipy27z5rkvnotqek9iooq
666  JOBK   Osaka, Japan   100 kW   Southern Japanese stations like this one and 558-JOCR got a major boost from Hawaiian propagation while the others seemed to take a hit. This NHK1 outlet made up for 594 (typically plastered by Honolulu) at 1631 on 11-4  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/22gs75g6tbb75u8x4p9ayb0h0r99mpyu
738  BEL2   Penghu, Taiwan   100 kW   Hawaiian local pest on 740 doesn't slow down this super station at all with its Indonesian program at 1545 on 11-3  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/uua43tjehvixla46x6idudjepy00ngo0
783  Voice of the Strait (Haixia zhi Sheng)   Fujian, China   600 kW   Another Taiwan-directed propaganda blaster with S9+ strength every sunrise session, such as with Chinese pop music, 5 + 1 pips and the sign off message at 1556 on 11-6  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/1dvk49fqtey4cng7385qhafz3k915nft
909  CNR6 (Shenzhou zhi Sheng)   Fujian, China   100 kW   One more Taiwan-directed mega-station with various Chinese ID's prior to sign off at 1603 on 11-3 (with sign off at 1605). This station, 783 and 549 typically wipe out their frequencies in Hawaii until they sign off  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/61tny0opnqasy5x1zwqe9kwxc3pn2ans
918  RNK   Phnom Penh, Cambodia   600 kW   Elusive catch on the west coast is a powerful big gun in Hawaii, blasting in every morning with distinctive Cambodian music prior to its 1702 UTC sign off. This S9+ signal at 1652 on 11-3 is apparently a news wrap up before the sign off routine starts (heard on other days as well)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/ljvxv1bha2307wvj244ol82tpl40hvg0
1575  VOA   Ban Phachi, Thailand   1000 kW   The VOA's Bengali program sounds a lot better without the Iranian Jammer plastering it (like it did last year, at the same beach). This overwhelming signal was at 1605 on 11-2  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/dupsdnoee00zbw7fnd9yvqaqkkghoevw

Gary DeBock (DXing with Craig Barnes and Chris Rogers in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii from November 2-8)


Re: New style FSL Part 2

Dean wayman
 

Thanks Gary :
BTW i don't feel like anyone was giving me grief about these new loop's ,And honestly my goal was just to see if there  was any advantage to the basket weave design that I had been thinking about for some time.
Also I wish I had the time etc. to take this new loop to where you DX !  that would tell the tale about their design ,but I don't think that will ever happen .
Another thing I wanted to test was If a small loop setup could be used  in a phasing setup  .
I have a Pixel loop and a active vertical antenna  here at the house ,and I wanted to see if these loops could be as useful as that antenna setup ? So far I think they can come close to the bigger setup ,and what an improvement has been seen with my normal QRM .
There may be refinements in these loop's as time goes by ,most likely when the weather warms here, I'll be out there using them and have to make changes based on use,  etc.
Last week I gained 2 new stations in my log book which has been stagnant for a while now . Maybe as the solar min. turns the corner I can add more ?
Still, all-In-all I'm having fun doing the work .

Good DX all
Dean W.


Re: New style FSL Part 2

Andy ZL3AG
 

Basically the same as the G Maynard "Spiral Loop with Q Multiplier" from the 1980's, with ferrites added. :^)

His design was balanced, with a centre tap half way up the windings which went to the ground of the capacitor, with two gangs of the capacitor used - one going to the top exit winding and the other to the bottom.

Q multiplier on that main balanced loop winding and then a MUCH SMALLER DIAMETER pick up turn further in towards the centre of the antenna, to reduce dampening. Made for very sharp tuning - I could peak it on one or other sideband of a station, and you could hear the peak track across the audio bandwidth of the station as you tuned the loop.

On 13/12/19 3:02 pm, Dean wayman wrote:
Hi Bill;
Nope the nulls are very sharp, in fact much sharper than my regularly wound FSL's . as far as a distorted pattern I haven't seen that . These loops have a figure -of -eight pattern ,gain is in line with  the loop and nulls to the side . So in other words the front edge of the loop points directly at the station being received .
I don't know if i can explain this part ? ...but  the Flux which the loop generates is concentrated on the inside and outside edge of the windings not on the ferrite  itself . I found a very detailed article on this but have lost it . look around the net maybe it will pop up ?
Dean W.


Re: New style FSL Part 2

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Dean (and Bill),

Thanks for your interesting experimental contribution, Dean, which certainly breaks new ground in FSL antenna design.

As a veteran of multiple FSL design controversies after Graham Maynard introduced his breakthrough "ferrite sleeve antenna" in February of 2011 (for which he was relentlessly slammed by antenna "experts" at the time) the best advice I can give is to be respectful of other's experimental efforts, and keep an open mind about new design directions until you personally test them out. In my own efforts I concentrate on direct A/B testing of different FSL designs and construction components, using actual weak signal reception tests under controlled conditions. FSL antennas developed under such a concept have the potential to be astonishing performers for their size.

Another important factor in FSL antenna design is to have a definite mission for the antenna you are creating. An FSL designed to provide massive gain while surviving gale storms at an ocean side cliff will have a different design than a lightweight "airport friendly" model built to provide gain boosts on exotic salt water beaches. Of course, theory-based antennas simply designed for maximum "Q" in a shack can use flimsy components and frame designs that wouldn't survive a single session out in adverse weather, but if that is the designer's goal for the antenna, who am I to criticize it? My own opinion is that every antenna needs a definite mission before construction starts-- not only as a way to focus on design objectives, but also as a guideline for success or failure. You need a definite destination before you can have any hope of making a successful trip!

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
        


Re: New style FSL Part 2

Dean wayman
 

Hi :
Sry i cant be more help here ? The number of winding's will depend on the value of capacitor you use and what Frequencies it will tune.

Dean W.


Re: New style FSL Part 2

Dean wayman
 

Hi Bill;
Nope the nulls are very sharp, in fact much sharper than my regularly wound FSL's . as far as a distorted pattern I haven't seen that . These loops have a figure -of -eight pattern ,gain is in line with  the loop and nulls to the side . So in other words the front edge of the loop points directly at the station being received .
I don't know if i can explain this part ? ...but  the Flux which the loop generates is concentrated on the inside and outside edge of the windings not on the ferrite  itself . I found a very detailed article on this but have lost it . look around the net maybe it will pop up ?

Dean W.


Re: Junk ferrite cores

Steve Whitt
 

Hi Mike

 

If I recall correctly the ferrites used  for EMI suppression on data cables are designed to be lossy. In otherwords the RF energy travelling along the cable should turn to heat in the ferrite material.

 

If so then they would be no use in an aerial system.

 

73s

Steve

 

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of vbifyz
Sent: 11 December 2019 16:25
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Junk ferrite cores

 

People keep upgrading their PC monitors, and a lot of monitor cables are being thrown away. First  VGA, and now DVI. Many of them have EMI suppression ferrite cores of various sizes.
They come essentially for free if you know where to look. I accumulated a dozen or so of these, planned to use them for common mode suppression chokes. The material is unknown, but seems to work well on HF frequencies.
Have anybody in this group tried to use these cores in a loopstick antenna? They can be glued together to form a "rod" of sorts.

73, Mike AF7KR


Re: Hello and Sony SRF-S14

mediumwavedx
 

Hi takane2,

Your ICF-S14 indeed looks like ultralight size. To me it looks about the size of my Sony ICF S10 MK2.

Welcome to the group.

Happy DXing!

Bill
Arizona


Re: New style FSL Part 2

dziki64 <dziki64@...>
 

How many feet of litz wire did it take to wind this antenna?  How many times around the form did you wind?
Thank you!


Re: Hello and Sony SRF-S14

Thomas Kane KC1MAT
 

Shoot, I meant ICF-S14 not SRF. Sorry I got the model numbers mixed up with the Sonys.


Hello and Sony SRF-S14

Thomas Kane KC1MAT
 

Hello, I just joined this group.

I don't think I have anything that qualifies as ultralight yet. I have a Grundig FR-200, Grundig G4000A(the last of the YB400 models) and a unbranded 70s era Japanese receiver. I mostly have been doing shortwave DXing, sending out QSLs, but I recently started trying out AM BCB dxing. I thought I'd try out ultralights, they seem pretty cool. I looked around and someone near me is selling a SRF-S14, which I cannot find very much about. It looks kind of similar to the SRF-S10. I saw some pictures of it with different FM band ranges and with TV audio for channels 1-3. Has anyone here tried out the S14?


2020 I.R.C.A. Convention information and reservation link

Mike Sanburn
 

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