Date   

Testing my new Eton Elite Traveler on TA MW outside

Peter 1956
 

Poor TA conditions. Nothing audible in the house, only one TA station audible outside. 1130 WBBR.
https://youtu.be/WmeelGV3MOY

Peter Wilson
Blackpool UK


Re: 540 kHz UnID-- Australian English Assistance Needed (Again)

Gary DeBock
 

Thanks William, Andy and Richard,

Your helpful assistance on deciphering 540-Rhema's Kiwi English is greatly appreciated! I never could have figured any of this out by myself.

You would think that after having "discovered" the New Zealand MW-DX oriented "Kiwi Cliff" on the Oregon coast in 2011 I would at least have made some progress in understanding the Kiwi English accent, but to me the Japanese and Cantonese recordings are easier to figure out. Kiwi English and Maori seem equally challenging.

A few years back I sent a strange UnID language recording to my Kiwi transplant buddy Theo Donnelly, asking for his opinion of the language. He immediately chastised me for not recognizing that it was Kiwi English.

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 


My new Eton Elite Traveler on FM

Peter 1956
 

See YouTube description and video captions for details.
https://youtu.be/-rsU9SLAVRM

Peter Wilson
Blackpool UK
NB the MW problems on the former model Eton Executive Traveler seem to have been resolved. I don't have an Executive Traveler, nor an Eton Traveler III to make a direct comparison.


Re: Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET

Vimal
 

I have pl-390 in my collection of almost 15 good radios.
And would advise you to stay away from it.
It is a beautiful paper weight ;simply not worth your hard earned money.
Tuning and volume controls are the culprit; they don’t obey your commands.
Just my two cents.

Vimal Oberoi 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 6:35 PM, Glenn BRIDEN <gbriden64@...> wrote:
While the 9700dx is a nice reciever for an analog it is a little harder to tune a specific frequency.  The sound is good and it does a good job of receiving weaker signals.  You will find it is effected by noise more bit that is common with analog radios.  Accept it for what it is and you will enjoy this radio.

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of Marc Coevoet <sintsixtus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:47:58 AM
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET
 
Op 3/12/2019 om 13:35 schreef Hans Stam:
> Hi all..
>
> At this moment I have the Tecsun PL-660, and this receiver is OK..
>
> But I have the intention to buy the Tecsun R-9700Dx receiver
>
> Is there anyone in this group who own this receiver? If you compare it
> to the 310et or 380 is there a difference in the sensitivity
>
> And how about the noise? I live in an apartment surrounded by offices
> etc.. So not the perfect place to listen
>
> Any replies are most welcome!
>

I would not spend 60$ on a 9700, but on a 390 or 390 with mp3 player, a
398...


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=R-9700Dx&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

I own one, it sits in its box, waiting for a true crisis in my other
radios ...


Marc
--
The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.
For former Apple users: Xubuntu.org (menu's up left)
For former Windows users: Lubuntu.org (menu's down left)




Re: Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET

Glenn BRIDEN
 

While the 9700dx is a nice reciever for an analog it is a little harder to tune a specific frequency.  The sound is good and it does a good job of receiving weaker signals.  You will find it is effected by noise more bit that is common with analog radios.  Accept it for what it is and you will enjoy this radio.

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.


From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io> on behalf of Marc Coevoet <sintsixtus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:47:58 AM
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET
 
Op 3/12/2019 om 13:35 schreef Hans Stam:
> Hi all..
>
> At this moment I have the Tecsun PL-660, and this receiver is OK..
>
> But I have the intention to buy the Tecsun R-9700Dx receiver
>
> Is there anyone in this group who own this receiver? If you compare it
> to the 310et or 380 is there a difference in the sensitivity
>
> And how about the noise? I live in an apartment surrounded by offices
> etc.. So not the perfect place to listen
>
> Any replies are most welcome!
>

I would not spend 60$ on a 9700, but on a 390 or 390 with mp3 player, a
398...


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=R-9700Dx&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

I own one, it sits in its box, waiting for a true crisis in my other
radios ...


Marc
--
The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.
For former Apple users: Xubuntu.org (menu's up left)
For former Windows users: Lubuntu.org (menu's down left)




Re: Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET

Marc Coevoet
 

Op 3/12/2019 om 13:35 schreef Hans Stam:
Hi all..
At this moment I have the Tecsun PL-660, and this receiver is OK..
But I have the intention to buy the Tecsun R-9700Dx receiver
Is there anyone in this group who own this receiver? If you compare it to the 310et or 380 is there a difference in the sensitivity
And how about the noise? I live in an apartment surrounded by offices etc.. So not the perfect place to listen
Any replies are most welcome!
I would not spend 60$ on a 9700, but on a 390 or 390 with mp3 player, a 398...


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=R-9700Dx&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

I own one, it sits in its box, waiting for a true crisis in my other radios ...


Marc
--
The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.
For former Apple users: Xubuntu.org (menu's up left)
For former Windows users: Lubuntu.org (menu's down left)


Tecsun R-9700DX or Tecsun PL310ET

Hans Stam
 

Hi all..

At this moment I have the Tecsun PL-660, and this receiver is OK..

But I have the intention to buy the Tecsun R-9700Dx receiver

Is there anyone in this group who own this receiver? If you compare it to the 310et or 380 is there a difference in the sensitivity

And how about the noise? I live in an apartment surrounded by offices etc.. So not the perfect place to listen

Any replies are most welcome!


Re: 540 kHz UnID-- Australian English Assistance Needed (Again)

Richard Allen <dx747j@...>
 

Gary:

It’s definitely New Zealand.  Hawks Bay & Gisborne are on the east coast of the North Island of Aotearoa. 

Good listening.

Richard Allen.


On Dec 3, 2019, at 05:45, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...> wrote:

This 540 kHz recording was made in Poipu, Hawaii at 1503 UTC on November 6th, and features a male speaker giving some sports news and a weather report. I suspect this is 540-4QL in Longreach, Australia with some local programming. The signal is strong enough, but with the accent I can't really pick out any local names to make sure the signal isn't Rhema from NZ. The weather report seems to have quite a few place names, all unfamiliar to me. Any Australian or NZ native speaker could probably dig out all the details very easily... help!  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2842z2ptalg40wu9368645fbb79u76he

73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii from November 2-8) 


Re: 540 kHz UnID-- Australian English Assistance Needed (Again)

Andy ZL3AG
 

Hi Gary,

Had a quick listen - heading off to bed soon. Definitely Kiwi.

Talking about English football:
"...cup holders Liverpool..."

then later NZ weather:

" ...Southern Wairarapa... Manawatu..."Horowhenua through to Wellington, partly cloudy with a few spots of light rain, Nelson/Malborough cloudy periods... ...heavy about the ranges. For Canterbury, mostly cloudy with scattered light rain, Otago/Southland..."

Cheers,

Andy
(Member NZRDXL)

On 4/12/19 12:45 am, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io wrote:
This 540 kHz recording was made in Poipu, Hawaii at 1503 UTC on November 6th, and features a male speaker giving some sports news and a weather report. I suspect this is 540-4QL in Longreach, Australia with some local programming. The signal is strong enough, but with the accent I can't really pick out any local names to make sure the signal isn't Rhema from NZ. The weather report seems to have quite a few place names, all unfamiliar to me. Any Australian or NZ native speaker could probably dig out all the details very easily... help! https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2842z2ptalg40wu9368645fbb79u76he
73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii from November 2-8)
_._,_._,_


Re: 540 kHz UnID-- Australian English Assistance Needed (Again)

William Renton
 

Hi Gary,

This is definitely the Kiwi with NZ English and mention of NZ weather including ‘Gisborne, Hawkes Bay and Wairarapa’. 

Best regards,

Will. 


On 3 Dec 2019, at 22:45, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...> wrote:

This 540 kHz recording was made in Poipu, Hawaii at 1503 UTC on November 6th, and features a male speaker giving some sports news and a weather report. I suspect this is 540-4QL in Longreach, Australia with some local programming. The signal is strong enough, but with the accent I can't really pick out any local names to make sure the signal isn't Rhema from NZ. The weather report seems to have quite a few place names, all unfamiliar to me. Any Australian or NZ native speaker could probably dig out all the details very easily... help!  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2842z2ptalg40wu9368645fbb79u76he

73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii from November 2-8) 


540 kHz UnID-- Australian English Assistance Needed (Again)

Gary DeBock
 

This 540 kHz recording was made in Poipu, Hawaii at 1503 UTC on November 6th, and features a male speaker giving some sports news and a weather report. I suspect this is 540-4QL in Longreach, Australia with some local programming. The signal is strong enough, but with the accent I can't really pick out any local names to make sure the signal isn't Rhema from NZ. The weather report seems to have quite a few place names, all unfamiliar to me. Any Australian or NZ native speaker could probably dig out all the details very easily... help!  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2842z2ptalg40wu9368645fbb79u76he

73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii from November 2-8) 


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Tony Magon
 

Thanks Dean

Yes I would think that would be the first time ferrite has been in a loop this way

I do have a loop that I bought years ago that was made up in a basketweave style

It looks it was made up in a jig then fishing line was threaded through where the small sticks were to keep it all together - it used normal enameled wire. - Think it was about 9 inches diameter or thereabouts

I think the sticks on the jig were probably small skewers. Was modifying the amp that was originally in it - It is down in the garage somewhere - It worked very well.

Yes noise in the house is always a problem and Sydney - Australia is not a good location

Regards

Tony VK2IC



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:04 PM Dean wayman <dx_plains@...> wrote:
A little more info:

Spider weave coils or basket weave coils are very high Q that's why the crystal set radio builders use them .Combine a high Q tuning cap (ceramic insulators) and this loop has very sharp tuning ,enough so that even at BFO setting like in LW you get a very crisp tune .

Also the basket weave coils have very little distributed capacitance ,some thing that has been talked about a lot when the first FSL builders were tweaking their designs.

Used inside most houses this loop suffers from noise as any very sensitive antenna does ,as far as i know nothing can be done about that ATM.

Dean


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Dean wayman
 

As far as I know this is the first time Ferrite has been used in a spider web coil ?

Dean


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Dean wayman
 

A little more info:

Spider weave coils or basket weave coils are very high Q that's why the crystal set radio builders use them .Combine a high Q tuning cap (ceramic insulators) and this loop has very sharp tuning ,enough so that even at BFO setting like in LW you get a very crisp tune .

Also the basket weave coils have very little distributed capacitance ,some thing that has been talked about a lot when the first FSL builders were tweaking their designs.

Used inside most houses this loop suffers from noise as any very sensitive antenna does ,as far as i know nothing can be done about that ATM.

Dean


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Tony Magon
 

Hi Dean


Thanks for the info - all ok

Regards

Tony VK2IC



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:53 PM Dean wayman <dx_plains@...> wrote:
Hi :
The length will depend on what value of capacitor your going to use but these loops have been around 60 ft of litz.
the count 1200/660/275 etc. isn't so important as the AWG ,46 is best for MW.
Dean


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Dean wayman
 

Hi :
The length will depend on what value of capacitor your going to use but these loops have been around 60 ft of litz.
the count 1200/660/275 etc. isn't so important as the AWG ,46 is best for MW.
Dean


Re: New style of FSL........I think ?

Tony Magon
 

Hi Dean

How many turns of litz is required - or what is the length of Litz wire required


Regards

Tony VK2IC



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:41 AM Dean wayman <dx_plains@...> wrote:

Because of the rising cost in Ferrite and Litz wire I have been thinking for some time about building a FSL that uses less .
It seemed to me that the wire part of the FSL is mostly fixed ,so maybe less ferrite in some way would be cause less stress on the pocket book?
After looking at everything on the net ,Pics of loops ,Gary's massive collection ,other peoples builds and all ,I decided to see if a spider weave or Basket weave was practical?

I made a 3 inch circle from wood and put 9 ,8x80mm Ferrite rods M400  on it , I have no pic of it . To this was added some turns of 1200/46 litz, And a variable tuning cap of 14-465 pF .This tiny loop worked very well giving a good boost in signal strength ,The nulls were very deep and sharp.

So I cut a plastic pipe of 4 inch size ,and installed 15 of the same size rods on it. Again 1200/46 Litz was wound on this .

I also wanted a pickup loop to set next to the radio ,because this loop would need to be mounted to some thing in the vertical plane ,so that it could be rotated to line up with different stations on the compass.

2 configurations were tried the first was 

This winding proved to be very difficult to produce and ,not of much benefit ,seemed to make the tuning on the loop mushy even adding bass to the signals,so it was abandoned.

The next was this, 4 turns at the center and then the loop winding and finally 4 more turns over that to complete the pickup coil.

A inner and outer winding was made of 660/46 Litz, terminated to a 1/4 inch Mono phone jack so the pickup loop could be removed for mutual coupling or transport etc.


Up to now I had  used 2 weeks of nearly full days testing, building ,rebuilding etc.but one more thing needed to be explored ,on this loop do you need space between the Ferrite and litz?  I'M not trying to start any arguments etc. but I needed to know ,So this was unwound and spacers were added to the Ferrite ,clear plastic hose worked just right .Everything was re-assembled for testing ,And a second loop was wound directly on the Ferrite rods ,this part of the whole experiment needs more work but so far I see no difference in gain.

Another test loop was also built on wood dowels and a center circle to use as a control to test Ferrite vs non Ferrite .As we would think the ferrite gave more boost of signal.

Several days later it was taken to a quiet location ,in testing it has very good nulls which are deep and gives plenty of boost to signals.
Comparable boost with my 6 inch flat wound loop ,,and easier to use because the radio sits near me and  needs no lazy-susan .

So I leave it to you ,If your looking to spend a bit less and have a decent antenna maybe give it a try ?

Test radio's
Tecsun PL 600
Sangean 909 X

Dean


New style of FSL........I think ?

Dean wayman
 

Because of the rising cost in Ferrite and Litz wire I have been thinking for some time about building a FSL that uses less .
It seemed to me that the wire part of the FSL is mostly fixed ,so maybe less ferrite in some way would be cause less stress on the pocket book?
After looking at everything on the net ,Pics of loops ,Gary's massive collection ,other peoples builds and all ,I decided to see if a spider weave or Basket weave was practical?

I made a 3 inch circle from wood and put 9 ,8x80mm Ferrite rods M400  on it , I have no pic of it . To this was added some turns of 1200/46 litz, And a variable tuning cap of 14-465 pF .This tiny loop worked very well giving a good boost in signal strength ,The nulls were very deep and sharp.

So I cut a plastic pipe of 4 inch size ,and installed 15 of the same size rods on it. Again 1200/46 Litz was wound on this .

I also wanted a pickup loop to set next to the radio ,because this loop would need to be mounted to some thing in the vertical plane ,so that it could be rotated to line up with different stations on the compass.

2 configurations were tried the first was 

This winding proved to be very difficult to produce and ,not of much benefit ,seemed to make the tuning on the loop mushy even adding bass to the signals,so it was abandoned.

The next was this, 4 turns at the center and then the loop winding and finally 4 more turns over that to complete the pickup coil.

A inner and outer winding was made of 660/46 Litz, terminated to a 1/4 inch Mono phone jack so the pickup loop could be removed for mutual coupling or transport etc.


Up to now I had  used 2 weeks of nearly full days testing, building ,rebuilding etc.but one more thing needed to be explored ,on this loop do you need space between the Ferrite and litz?  I'M not trying to start any arguments etc. but I needed to know ,So this was unwound and spacers were added to the Ferrite ,clear plastic hose worked just right .Everything was re-assembled for testing ,And a second loop was wound directly on the Ferrite rods ,this part of the whole experiment needs more work but so far I see no difference in gain.

Another test loop was also built on wood dowels and a center circle to use as a control to test Ferrite vs non Ferrite .As we would think the ferrite gave more boost of signal.

Several days later it was taken to a quiet location ,in testing it has very good nulls which are deep and gives plenty of boost to signals.
Comparable boost with my 6 inch flat wound loop ,,and easier to use because the radio sits near me and  needs no lazy-susan .

So I leave it to you ,If your looking to spend a bit less and have a decent antenna maybe give it a try ?

Test radio's
Tecsun PL 600
Sangean 909 X

Dean


Re: 558 kHz UnID-- Australian Asiistance Needed!

Gary DeBock
 

<<<    This is 100% 4AM Mareeba as Mareeba is mentioned near the end of the clip (with 0:18 to go). The number mentioned  is 131 873 so a networked program from 2GB Sydney.   >>>

Wow, thanks, Will!

Your help is greatly appreciated-- Australian English isn't my strong point. There were a couple of times during the Hawaii trip that I couldn't quite understand what Chris was trying to say :-)

73, Gary
    


-----Original Message-----
From: William Renton via Groups.Io <william_renton@...>
To: main <main@ultralightdx.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Nov 29, 2019 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] 558 kHz UnID-- Australian Asiistance Needed!

Hi Gary,

This is 100% 4AM Mareeba as Mareeba is mentioned near the end of the clip (with 0:18 to go). The number mentioned  is 131 873 so a networked program from 2GB Sydney. 

Regards,

Will. 



On 30 Nov 2019, at 12:45, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...> wrote:

     The following Australian AM-DX signal was received on 558 kHz at 1515 UTC on November 4th near the beach in Poipu, Hawaii (actually, in the back yard of Australian DXpedition partner Chris Rogers' condo, while Chris was sleeping in after chasing North American DX most of the night).
     Normally Australian signals would be easy to identify, but on 558 kHz in Hawaii there were JOCR, HLQH, NZ's Radio Sport and Radio Fiji One competing for attention on the frequency, as well as this station. Anyway, the Australian call-in talkback show host is introducing his topic of overpriced houses, and giving out a few phone numbers to call  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/y9lysayaz230vktyr7zv3uf0lec9pc4a
If any of our Australian members recognize the format, host or station, your opinions would be greatly appreciated!
     At the time I thought this might be the Super Radio network, but was unable to check any of the parallels like 531 or 639 because of a maze of other signals on the parallel frequencies (for example 531 had JOQG, BCC in Taiwan, Zhejiang in China, 4KZ and 2PM fighting it out at times, as well as a probable PI from NZ). File review after this Hawaii Ultralight DXpedition is turning into an interesting experience :-) 

73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii with Chris Rogers and Craig Barnes from November 2-8) 


 


Re: 558 kHz UnID-- Australian Asiistance Needed!

William Renton
 

Hi Gary,

This is 100% 4AM Mareeba as Mareeba is mentioned near the end of the clip (with 0:18 to go). The number mentioned  is 131 873 so a networked program from 2GB Sydney. 

Regards,

Will. 



On 30 Nov 2019, at 12:45, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...> wrote:

     The following Australian AM-DX signal was received on 558 kHz at 1515 UTC on November 4th near the beach in Poipu, Hawaii (actually, in the back yard of Australian DXpedition partner Chris Rogers' condo, while Chris was sleeping in after chasing North American DX most of the night).
     Normally Australian signals would be easy to identify, but on 558 kHz in Hawaii there were JOCR, HLQH, NZ's Radio Sport and Radio Fiji One competing for attention on the frequency, as well as this station. Anyway, the Australian call-in talkback show host is introducing his topic of overpriced houses, and giving out a few phone numbers to call  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/y9lysayaz230vktyr7zv3uf0lec9pc4a
If any of our Australian members recognize the format, host or station, your opinions would be greatly appreciated!
     At the time I thought this might be the Super Radio network, but was unable to check any of the parallels like 531 or 639 because of a maze of other signals on the parallel frequencies (for example 531 had JOQG, BCC in Taiwan, Zhejiang in China, 4KZ and 2PM fighting it out at times, as well as a probable PI from NZ). File review after this Hawaii Ultralight DXpedition is turning into an interesting experience :-) 

73, Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Hawaii with Chris Rogers and Craig Barnes from November 2-8) 


 

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