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Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Chris Rogers
 

My equipment used on the trip was a 5" FSL antenna and C Crane "hot-rodded" receiver both provided by Gary and a Tecsun PL880 and a PK Loops 20" amplified loop.
The PL880 was modified to allow the loop to use the external antenna jack on MW which when supplied by the factory only functions on SW. I was very comfortable using this receiver and antenna combination and have dxed for many hours on both. Whilst the PL880 is not a "Ultralight receiver" in my opinion it is the pick of modern portables and performs extremely well.

Having said that I used the C Crane skywave radio at the condominium I stayed at, and the reception from some very desirable Pacific Island stations, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Tuvlalu, etc as well as many of the other stronger US mainland stations were audible at armchair level inside on the modified C Crane Skywave. They were further enhanced with the FSL. The FSL antenna and C Crane receiver together requires a fair bit of practice at getting the best out of it, and in that regard I am just a beginner.

Gary is a wizard at using the FSL's and the Ultralight portables, and the results he gets is absolutely amazing and a credit to his skill both as a dxer and a engineer of both the enhanced radios and FSL antennas.
Most of my dxing carrrer has been done in the past with communications receivers like a Drake R8B and with beverage antennas, and lately with loop antennas as usually on islands where I like to dx from there is no room for a 750m+ beverage antenna in the direction you want to listen to. A FSL or loop antenna is a must if you want to dx successfully in a environment that does not have a lot of room for large antennas.

My results from Poipu beach were numerous, including mainland US stations, various Pacific Island stations, and a few Latin American stations. I logged and identified 74 stations in total. For me there was so much to listen to and just not enough time.


Re: Testing of radios with FSL aerials

Dean wayman
 

Hi :
Well i only have 2 radio's to tell you about so far (well i have several but just the 2 i have been testing with ).
Tecsun PL 600 ,this set has been my constant companion for FSL antennas and  round the house listening, It works very well with my 3 FSL"s and ok for general listening etc. A rather older model but has given good service since i got it. BTW i had a PL 880 ,but wasn't impressed with it so i returned it.

Sangean ATS 909X ,this set has the mods done by Radio Labs ,Detent removed from the tuning wheel and a couple other things i don't recall what though,Oddly enough it works ok While using a FSL but doesn't seem to give the volume increase like the Tecsun does when you get to the peak on the FSL ? I can only think that the sound mods done on it have changed the AGC, or signal processing  or something ? In the upper part of MW ,Above about 1550 khz the FSL doesn't seem to give much boost but it does help with the signals , I also don't like the signal meter very much it seems to react slowly to boosting ,if it does react ? Almost like the tuning meter isn't as sensitive as my other radio's?

I guess if you need more info ask away ?
Thanks
Dean_0


Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Gary DeBock
 

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:25 PM, Todd wrote:
<<<   Well done Gary and Chris re the MW exotics logged at Hawaii.   >>>
Thanks Todd! It was a great honor to welcome Chris to Hawaii, and learn from his experience in African and South American DXing success.

<<<   I note that Chris was using a PK loops 50 cm (19.7 inch) diameter loop. Interested to hear what signal gain and directivity differences were experienced for the 5 inch FSL versus the 50 cm PK loop.   >>>

Since Chris has both of these antennas (and I don't have any PK loop) I should probably defer to him on the relative comparison between these two very different tuned loops. I do know that Chris was using the Tecsun PL-880 and 20" PK Loop combo for most of his DXing in Hawaii, but that he also used the modified CC Skywave and 5" FSL on at least one occasion. By the way, there is a YouTube video posted (not by me) of a direct comparison between a 4" FSL antenna and a 20" PK Loop, at  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7y2a4gWoGM
As background information, I should add that the current 5 inch "Frequent Flyer" FSL antenna models have been tweaked into a razor-sharp, High-Q tuning state, which provides an exceptional amount of gain for the antenna size, but with the side effect of requiring very careful tuning to exploit the extremely sharp (and deep) gain peaks. If someone is accustomed to using a relatively broad-tuning PK loop in a DXpedition environment (as Chris was, at Rarotonga in June), it's not easy to switch over to the ultra High-Q tuning system of the current "Frequent Flyer" FSL antennas. On the other hand, if someone has years of practice tuning the new, highly-tweaked FSL antennas (as Craig Barnes and I both have), the thrill of having such awesome compact performance is very habit forming.

<<<   I am considering purchasing a 65 cm (25.6 inch) diameter loop for AU $250 including postage from PK Antennas. The 65 cm version is their largest passive (non-amplified) loop that covers the full MW band. My main intended application is taking it away on vacation trips, or to nearby parks, etc. My 102 cm (40 inch) side length square PVC tunable box loop is too big for anywhere but inside the house or outside in the backyard. The smaller 65 cm loop may also be useful for local strong signal null vertical plane tilting at home.    >>>

As I shared with Chris, a DXer needs to use whatever gear he feels most comfortable with. There are many antenna tradeoffs such as portability and gain, highest Q and ease of tuning, highest Q and DX station audio fidelity, etc. Every commercial antenna has design compromises as the manufacturer attempts to appeal to the largest possible number of customers, and make a profit by satisfying their needs. When you design your own antennas (as I did with the PVC air core loops, and the airport-friendly FSL antennas) you have the chance to choose your own design priorities, even to the point of fanaticism, such as with the 9 foot square PVC loop, the 17" diameter monster FSL or the razor-sharp-tuning 5" FSL antenna. Would everyone feel comfortable using these? Of course not. DXing is supposed to be a fun hobby, so choose whatever works for you, and the fun will naturally follow.

<<<   For anyone that can handle mosquitoes and crocodiles, Northern Australia offers a large variety of exotic signals that could be considered for a future ULR MW DXpedition. Australian DXers Dave Onley and Craig Edwards have already conducted a comprehensive DXpedition to Nhulunbuy, Northern Territory [1].   >>>

That sounds interesting, although the 45 degree heat in places like Alice Springs might be even hotter than the DX you track down? Chris mentioned that Queensland is the currently popular hot spot for Australian DXpeditions, although a lot of DXers either hop a plane to NZ or the Cook Islands. I visited Aitutaki in the Cooks last year in April, and it was awesome!

73, Gary
 

      
         
 


Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Todd
 

Well done Gary and Chris re the MW exotics logged at Hawaii.

I note that Chris was using a PK loops 50 cm (19.7 inch) diameter loop. Interested to hear what signal gain and directivity differences were experienced for the 5 inch FSL versus the 50 cm PK loop.

I am considering purchasing a 65 cm (25.6 inch) diameter loop for AU $250 including postage from PK Antennas. The 65 cm version is their largest passive (non-amplified) loop that covers the full MW band. My main intended application is taking it away on vacation trips, or to nearby parks, etc. My 102 cm (40 inch) side length square PVC tunable box loop is too big for anywhere but inside the house or outside in the backyard. The smaller 65 cm loop may also be useful for local strong signal null vertical plane tilting at home. 

For anyone that can handle mosquitoes and crocodiles, Northern Australia offers a large variety of exotic signals that could be considered for a future ULR MW DXpedition. Australian DXers Dave Onley and Craig Edwards have already conducted a comprehensive DXpedition to Nhulunbuy, Northern Territory [1].

Regards,

Todd
Sydney, AU

1. https://ozclog.wordpress.com/nhulunbuy-gove-peninsula-northern-territory/


Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Phil EVG <phil@...>
 

hi 
Did you do any comparisons between the PK Loop and the FSL? 
thanx 
73 de jordan ve7jjd 

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 5:06 PM Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
<<<   Wow some great catches there. Well done.    >>>

Thanks Dan,

Your comment is appreciated. Wish that you could have been with us!

73, Gary
 


Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Gary DeBock
 

<<<   Wow some great catches there. Well done.    >>>

Thanks Dan,

Your comment is appreciated. Wish that you could have been with us!

73, Gary
 


Re: Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Dan Merta
 

Wow some great catches there. Well done. 


927-AIR (India) Received During Hawaii DXpedition

Gary DeBock
 

     Long range Asian propagation was somewhat limited during the recent Hawaii DXpedition, but 927-AIR in Visakhapatnam, India (on the east coast) was received again during the recent trip.
     With multiple Asian co-channels on most AIR frequencies these India receptions are never easy, but by far the best way to track them down is to wait for the AIR network English News at 1530 UTC, during which most AIR frequencies switch over to English, read by a female speaker. Last year in Hawaii this trick resulted in AIR receptions on both 927 and 954, but the latter was continually plastered by JOKR and other co-channels this year. Even on 927 AIR runs the gauntlet of CNR6, NHK1 and Taiwan, so some luck is certainly helpful in tracking it down.
     This recording was made at 1533 UTC on November 5th, with AIR's female announcer in English peaking nicely around the 1 minute point, including mentions of "and Indian affairs" at 59 seconds, and "India's strongest export" at 1:03  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/s6489amur0evsa01jrgo7p2b1sr8d1jc
     Since west coast TP propagation is sometimes still in play around 1530 UTC, local DXers might have a chance at tracking down the AIR English News in the same way.

Gary DeBock (DXing with Craig Barnes and Chris Rogers in Poipu, Hawaii from November 2-8)
7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight and 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna (on a 5' PVC base)


Re: Cruise ship dxing

Phil EVG <phil@...>
 

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     On the final day of last year's Poipu, Hawaii DXpedition exceptional long range Asian propagation hit the Kauai beach, with Oman, Iran, India (2), Bangladesh, Myanmar, Cambodia and Vietnam all received on a 5" FSL antenna. This year's final day also featured exceptional propagation, but from a different direction-- Australia.
     A collection of relatively obscure 400 watt Australian stations are on frequencies from 1611 to 1701 kHz, and although several of these are regular catches with SDR's and large broadband antennas on flat west coast ocean beaches, they are not common fare on small, live DXing FSL antennas-- which tune one frequency at a time, and have a reputation for best performance on the low band. Despite this, on the morning of November 7th the Kauai, Hawaii propagation provided a rare thrill-- multiple 400 watt Australian HPONS stations at great strength on the X Band, including several at S9-- easily received on my portable 5" diameter FSL antenna. To provide even more enhancement, Australian DXpedition partner Chris Rogers was right by my side, providing background information on several of these obscure, flea-power stations.            This was far and away the best Australian propagation of the entire DXpedition, and we had a blast exploiting it! Attached are some photos from the final day morning session, including Chris and I with our respective live DXing gear (Chris was using a Tecsun PL-880 and 20" PK loop while seated at a picnic table, while I was standing up, using a 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight and 5" Frequent Flyer FSL on a 5' PVC base). Chris is an awesome DXer who made out like a bandit tracking down South American and African DX in Rarotonga last June-- and he provided a lot of "on the job training" to help Craig and I improve our sunset DXing strategy! 
     
1611   Three Australian Mix   Pandemonium breaks out at 1620 UTC as three low power stations mix together at good strength, one of which is almost certainly Vision Radio Network, according to Chris  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mru2w7od0jofcy2d0zu9291fkr3ha104
1620   4KZ   According to Chris this 400w station has the best antenna of any of these HPONS stations, personally installed by Chris' friend Al Kirton (while the other stations' antennas are "nothing special"). The antenna was sure doing the trick at a powerful level during a call-in talk show at 1618  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/1trwkqq6xc9h9gbymribu8i630gwks6n
1629  UnID    Good level conversation about the release of a music album at 1624--  maybe 2HRN?  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xkykqt1ps7k535ab359na99e2x3i242x
1638  UnID   Arabic (?) at very good level at 1629  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vvq3dsfpn9erin96z762qr5qmflki79x
1656  Voice of the Australian Chinese (+ UnID)   Chinese music station with S9 peaks at 1631 prevailing over weaker UnID male "talker" station  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/o7lim33qfmj217xqmgjclnpt0hbgow0v
1665  UnID   Weak male "talker" station rising above the noise level at 1642, with co-channel flutter from something even weaker  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mjkrf4g0wdjgkm0jmhpja71fffso62nz
1701  Radio Brisvani   Distinctive South Asian music with S9 peaks at 1614-- definitely one of the stars of the session  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/yah56zm6cwqplakzpnlhk9800jwzz6cj
           Keeping up its S9 strength at 1648  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8xr0pspg13slny760e45gr5009h3atky
1701  UnID   Weak male "talker" co-channel giving Brisvani some temporary competition at 1637, but soon swallowed up by the South Asian music  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/3s3mwgi6z2059jhxxzql1c1ufppltn2t

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (DXing with Craig Barnes and Chris Rogers at Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii from November 2-7)
7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna (on a 5' PVC base) 
            

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:54 PM Phil EVG <phil@...> wrote:
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Re: Cruise ship dxing

Phil EVG <phil@...>
 

Check out the Photos


Hawaii DXpedition Final Day-- 400w Australian Bonanza!

Gary DeBock
 

     On the final day of last year's Poipu, Hawaii DXpedition exceptional long range Asian propagation hit the Kauai beach, with Oman, Iran, India (2), Bangladesh, Myanmar, Cambodia and Vietnam all received on a 5" FSL antenna. This year's final day also featured exceptional propagation, but from a different direction-- Australia.
     A collection of relatively obscure 400 watt Australian stations are on frequencies from 1611 to 1701 kHz, and although several of these are regular catches with SDR's and large broadband antennas on flat west coast ocean beaches, they are not common fare on small, live DXing FSL antennas-- which tune one frequency at a time, and have a reputation for best performance on the low band. Despite this, on the morning of November 7th the Kauai, Hawaii propagation provided a rare thrill-- multiple 400 watt Australian HPONS stations at great strength on the X Band, including several at S9-- easily received on my portable 5" diameter FSL antenna. To provide even more enhancement, Australian DXpedition partner Chris Rogers was right by my side, providing background information on several of these obscure, flea-power stations.            This was far and away the best Australian propagation of the entire DXpedition, and we had a blast exploiting it! Attached are some photos from the final day morning session, including Chris and I with our respective live DXing gear (Chris was using a Tecsun PL-880 and 20" PK loop while seated at a picnic table, while I was standing up, using a 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight and 5" Frequent Flyer FSL on a 5' PVC base). Chris is an awesome DXer who made out like a bandit tracking down South American and African DX in Rarotonga last June-- and he provided a lot of "on the job training" to help Craig and I improve our sunset DXing strategy! 
     
1611   Three Australian Mix   Pandemonium breaks out at 1620 UTC as three low power stations mix together at good strength, one of which is almost certainly Vision Radio Network, according to Chris  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mru2w7od0jofcy2d0zu9291fkr3ha104
1620   4KZ   According to Chris this 400w station has the best antenna of any of these HPONS stations, personally installed by Chris' friend Al Kirton (while the other stations' antennas are "nothing special"). The antenna was sure doing the trick at a powerful level during a call-in talk show at 1618  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/1trwkqq6xc9h9gbymribu8i630gwks6n
1629  UnID    Good level conversation about the release of a music album at 1624--  maybe 2HRN?  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xkykqt1ps7k535ab359na99e2x3i242x
1638  UnID   Arabic (?) at very good level at 1629  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vvq3dsfpn9erin96z762qr5qmflki79x
1656  Voice of the Australian Chinese (+ UnID)   Chinese music station with S9 peaks at 1631 prevailing over weaker UnID male "talker" station  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/o7lim33qfmj217xqmgjclnpt0hbgow0v
1665  UnID   Weak male "talker" station rising above the noise level at 1642, with co-channel flutter from something even weaker  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/mjkrf4g0wdjgkm0jmhpja71fffso62nz
1701  Radio Brisvani   Distinctive South Asian music with S9 peaks at 1614-- definitely one of the stars of the session  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/yah56zm6cwqplakzpnlhk9800jwzz6cj
           Keeping up its S9 strength at 1648  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8xr0pspg13slny760e45gr5009h3atky
1701  UnID   Weak male "talker" co-channel giving Brisvani some temporary competition at 1637, but soon swallowed up by the South Asian music  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/3s3mwgi6z2059jhxxzql1c1ufppltn2t

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (DXing with Craig Barnes and Chris Rogers at Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii from November 2-7)
7.5" loopstick CC Skywave Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna (on a 5' PVC base) 
            


Re: Cruise ship dxing

K7DWI Art
 

I took the Inside Passage to Alaska cruise in August/September of 2002 on Norwegian Cruise Lines.
I had an outside cabin near the front of the ship. No balcony, but a large rectangular window with an inside sill large enough to place my Sony ICF-2003 and a Radio Shack Medium Wave Loop (Tecsun AN-100 Look-a-Like).
The first morning of the cruise, we ran into a very nasty gale. Propably a typhoon that became extra-tropical. It lasted the entire time we were outside the inside passage.
I survived on the patch for sea-sickness, Preparation-H :( and a $500+ Bar tab. I saw blue skies the first night, the morning at Glacier Bay and the morning we arrived back at Seattle.
Our cabin was on the port side (left). Reception was not so hot going up to Alaska, but was fairly good on the way back. With the radio/antenna combination, I clearly heard AMBC stations from Anchorage to San Francisco. Seattle and Canadian coastal stations were very clear. I don't recall how Shortwave was since I didn't concentrate on that.
I recall the Solar conditions were not good at all. In fact, there was Aurora during the trip, just we couldn't see it :(. The gale was so severe that the second night laying in the top deck jacuzzi, I couldn't see the boiler towers on the ship.
Have fun. Enjoy the cruise and the vacation. Don't spend too much time on the radio.
73 Art K7DWI now in Grants Pass OR


Re: Cruise ship dxing

Andy ZL3AG
 

Mount an active antenna beside a small camera on a tripod. A camera on a tripod looks a lot less weird than an antenna by itself.

On 7/11/19 9:13 pm, kevin asato via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, your US or Canadian Constitutional Rights take a back seat to Captain Ahab and crew who have ultimate authority as to what is proper conduct on board the ship. All kidding aside about the Captain Ahab reference but it is best to have your activities cleared ahead of time. Like anything else, your activities can appear to be suspicious given the current climate of fear of global terrorism and an uninformed populous on board the ship. You may wish to start by contacting the cruise line company about their policies as well as attempting to contact the ship's captain or Radio Officer about your intentions to get their permission to operate/listen.
73,
kevin
kc6pob
On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:08:28 PM PST, Phil EVG <phil@...> wrote:


Re: Cruise ship dxing

kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
 

Unfortunately, your US or Canadian Constitutional Rights take a back seat to Captain Ahab and crew who have ultimate authority as to what is proper conduct on board the ship. All kidding aside about the Captain Ahab reference but it is best to have your activities cleared ahead of time. Like anything else, your activities can appear to be suspicious given the current climate of fear of global terrorism and an uninformed populous on board the ship. You may wish to start by contacting the cruise line company about their policies as well as attempting to contact the ship's captain or Radio Officer about your intentions to get their permission to operate/listen.
73,
kevin
kc6pob

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:08:28 PM PST, Phil EVG <phil@...> wrote:


Hi 
Seriously consider a good antenna DXing barefoot is nigh unto cruel and unusual punishment, IMHO thus denying you your Constitutional Rights under 8th Amendment if the US Constitution as well as Section 12 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms 

I suggest one of the newly arrived SDR Accessories on eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, etc., the MLA-30 Magnetic Loop Antenna 
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/MLA-30-Loop-Antenna-Active-Receiving-Antenna-100kHz-30MHz-for-Short-Wave-Radio-/283529483468   A $30 Antenna that plays in the league as the Big Guys W6LVP, KR1ST, Wellbrook, MFJ, etc..  
While you're at it consider a $25 Mini Whip as well  

thanx 
73 de jordan ve7jjd
ps; ultraligtdx FSL Antennas One of Gary's Airport Friendly versions
 

MLA-30 Loop Antenna Active Receiving Antenna 100kHz - 30MHz for Short Wave Radio 

The MLA-30 loop antenna is a popular broadband antenna

  • It is an effective antenna for short-wave listeners (SWL) and amateur radio enthusiasts (HAM) to receive medium-wave and short-wave in the limited living area of the city
  • The MLA-30 loop antenna is easy to install and can be easily installed on balconies, rooftops, and other small, compact, low-profile installations without worrying about neighbors and property opposition
  • Another advantage of the MLA-30 loop antenna is that it is directional
  • By rotating the antenna so that the antenna's dummy point is aligned with the interference signal, the specific near-field interference can be minimized  
 




The MLA-30 is such an antenna. The MLA-30 is a toroidal magnetic antenna.
        The MLA-30 loop antenna is a popular broadband antenna. It is an effective antenna for short-wave listeners (SWL) and amateur radio enthusiasts (HAM) to receive medium-wave and short-wave in the limited living area of the city. Frequency coverage: 100kHz to 30 MHz. Excellent directionality can help you reduce noise and improve the signal-to-noise ratio, and can dig out weak signals that are overwhelmed by noise when conventional antennas are received.
       The MLA-30 loop antenna is easy to install and can be easily installed on balconies, rooftops, and other small, compact, low-profile installations without worrying about neighbors and property opposition.
       Another advantage of the MLA-30 loop antenna is that it is directional. By rotating the antenna so that the dummy point of the antenna is aligned with the interfering signal, the specific near-field interference can be minimized.
Details of the MLA-30 loop antenna:
Do not connect it to the transmitter as it will cause the preamplifier to be damaged.
Local radiation noise suppression up to 30 dB compared to long-haul antennas
8-shaped patterning provides deep dummy points to further reduce interference
USB power supply, convenient to take power. Self-contained feeders simplify the installation process.
Simple structure, easy to install to the balcony, rooftop, and other locations.
No manual adjustment required
Install low-key, no need to worry about neighbors and properties.
Modular design, easy to install and maintain.
Stainless steel ring vibrator, easy to install and easy to maintain.
Rainproof enclosure for long-term fixed outdoor use.
Main coverage: 100kHz to 30 MHz

note: Need to prepare a PVC sheath tube for support, any diameter, need to pay attention to the need to have a certain strength, any community hardware store can buy. You can also use existing bamboo poles, wood poles, etc., and be careful not to use metal rods.
Note: Please allow minor errors due to manual measurement.
Item color displayed in photos may be showing slightly different since monitors are not calibrated same. 

Package Contents: 
The MLA-30 amplifier with 10M cable, Stainless steel vibrator, Bias supply, USB cable 0.8 m, 
60cm SMA jumper cable, Stainless steel fixing screws



On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:27 PM Theo via Groups.Io <theod438=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I disagree.

Out on open deck, I've found on several cruises (number seven comes up to two weeks) that the ships have been amazingly quiet.  Obviously you're not gonna be trying inside a steel-plate enclosed cabin/stateroom/inside lounge, but be exposed outdoors... with no problem using a decent hand-held such as the Tecsun PL-380.

The Big Challenge is avoiding close range lighting (so seeing can be interesting at night if you're trying to take notes) and sheltering from wind for comfort, which can be a nuisance even in warmer climes.

Walt Salmaniw from Victoria, BC has proved all this on several occasions... including stuff I experienced during late evenings north of NZ heading from Auckland to Tonga and beyond.

The 380 off the coast of South Africa/Namibia provided outstanding reception up into the Mediterranean and Middle East, along with what at the time was a mystery in Chinese on 1098... which turned out to be CNR 11's 1000kW tx from Golmud.  It helps that South Africa isn't exactly a big AM user.

Identifying what you're hearing is going to be interesting but, hey, that keeps the grey cells alive.  Explaining to other passengers is the same as on dry land -- crew members can be inquisitive... late-night visits to a higher, exposed deck can be checked! 

And even mid-afternoon snoozing with an extended antenna poking through the deck railing earned me a visit from a Senior Officer to prove I wuzn't 'fishing' over the side!  I kid you not... he admitted his wife (so that's how Senior he was) had reported me.

You'll hear tons... enjoy it all.

TD


Re: Cruise ship dxing

Phil EVG <phil@...>
 

Hi 
Seriously consider a good antenna DXing barefoot is nigh unto cruel and unusual punishment, IMHO thus denying you your Constitutional Rights under 8th Amendment if the US Constitution as well as Section 12 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms 

I suggest one of the newly arrived SDR Accessories on eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, etc., the MLA-30 Magnetic Loop Antenna 
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/MLA-30-Loop-Antenna-Active-Receiving-Antenna-100kHz-30MHz-for-Short-Wave-Radio-/283529483468   A $30 Antenna that plays in the league as the Big Guys W6LVP, KR1ST, Wellbrook, MFJ, etc..  
While you're at it consider a $25 Mini Whip as well  

thanx 
73 de jordan ve7jjd
ps; ultraligtdx FSL Antennas One of Gary's Airport Friendly versions
 

MLA-30 Loop Antenna Active Receiving Antenna 100kHz - 30MHz for Short Wave Radio 

The MLA-30 loop antenna is a popular broadband antenna

  • It is an effective antenna for short-wave listeners (SWL) and amateur radio enthusiasts (HAM) to receive medium-wave and short-wave in the limited living area of the city
  • The MLA-30 loop antenna is easy to install and can be easily installed on balconies, rooftops, and other small, compact, low-profile installations without worrying about neighbors and property opposition
  • Another advantage of the MLA-30 loop antenna is that it is directional
  • By rotating the antenna so that the antenna's dummy point is aligned with the interference signal, the specific near-field interference can be minimized  
 




The MLA-30 is such an antenna. The MLA-30 is a toroidal magnetic antenna.
        The MLA-30 loop antenna is a popular broadband antenna. It is an effective antenna for short-wave listeners (SWL) and amateur radio enthusiasts (HAM) to receive medium-wave and short-wave in the limited living area of the city. Frequency coverage: 100kHz to 30 MHz. Excellent directionality can help you reduce noise and improve the signal-to-noise ratio, and can dig out weak signals that are overwhelmed by noise when conventional antennas are received.
       The MLA-30 loop antenna is easy to install and can be easily installed on balconies, rooftops, and other small, compact, low-profile installations without worrying about neighbors and property opposition.
       Another advantage of the MLA-30 loop antenna is that it is directional. By rotating the antenna so that the dummy point of the antenna is aligned with the interfering signal, the specific near-field interference can be minimized.
Details of the MLA-30 loop antenna:
Do not connect it to the transmitter as it will cause the preamplifier to be damaged.
Local radiation noise suppression up to 30 dB compared to long-haul antennas
8-shaped patterning provides deep dummy points to further reduce interference
USB power supply, convenient to take power. Self-contained feeders simplify the installation process.
Simple structure, easy to install to the balcony, rooftop, and other locations.
No manual adjustment required
Install low-key, no need to worry about neighbors and properties.
Modular design, easy to install and maintain.
Stainless steel ring vibrator, easy to install and easy to maintain.
Rainproof enclosure for long-term fixed outdoor use.
Main coverage: 100kHz to 30 MHz

note: Need to prepare a PVC sheath tube for support, any diameter, need to pay attention to the need to have a certain strength, any community hardware store can buy. You can also use existing bamboo poles, wood poles, etc., and be careful not to use metal rods.
Note: Please allow minor errors due to manual measurement.
Item color displayed in photos may be showing slightly different since monitors are not calibrated same. 

Package Contents: 
The MLA-30 amplifier with 10M cable, Stainless steel vibrator, Bias supply, USB cable 0.8 m, 
60cm SMA jumper cable, Stainless steel fixing screws



On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:27 PM Theo via Groups.Io <theod438=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I disagree.

Out on open deck, I've found on several cruises (number seven comes up to two weeks) that the ships have been amazingly quiet.  Obviously you're not gonna be trying inside a steel-plate enclosed cabin/stateroom/inside lounge, but be exposed outdoors... with no problem using a decent hand-held such as the Tecsun PL-380.

The Big Challenge is avoiding close range lighting (so seeing can be interesting at night if you're trying to take notes) and sheltering from wind for comfort, which can be a nuisance even in warmer climes.

Walt Salmaniw from Victoria, BC has proved all this on several occasions... including stuff I experienced during late evenings north of NZ heading from Auckland to Tonga and beyond.

The 380 off the coast of South Africa/Namibia provided outstanding reception up into the Mediterranean and Middle East, along with what at the time was a mystery in Chinese on 1098... which turned out to be CNR 11's 1000kW tx from Golmud.  It helps that South Africa isn't exactly a big AM user.

Identifying what you're hearing is going to be interesting but, hey, that keeps the grey cells alive.  Explaining to other passengers is the same as on dry land -- crew members can be inquisitive... late-night visits to a higher, exposed deck can be checked! 

And even mid-afternoon snoozing with an extended antenna poking through the deck railing earned me a visit from a Senior Officer to prove I wuzn't 'fishing' over the side!  I kid you not... he admitted his wife (so that's how Senior he was) had reported me.

You'll hear tons... enjoy it all.

TD


Re: Cruise ship dxing

Theo <theod438@...>
 

I disagree.

Out on open deck, I've found on several cruises (number seven comes up to two weeks) that the ships have been amazingly quiet.  Obviously you're not gonna be trying inside a steel-plate enclosed cabin/stateroom/inside lounge, but be exposed outdoors... with no problem using a decent hand-held such as the Tecsun PL-380.

The Big Challenge is avoiding close range lighting (so seeing can be interesting at night if you're trying to take notes) and sheltering from wind for comfort, which can be a nuisance even in warmer climes.

Walt Salmaniw from Victoria, BC has proved all this on several occasions... including stuff I experienced during late evenings north of NZ heading from Auckland to Tonga and beyond.

The 380 off the coast of South Africa/Namibia provided outstanding reception up into the Mediterranean and Middle East, along with what at the time was a mystery in Chinese on 1098... which turned out to be CNR 11's 1000kW tx from Golmud.  It helps that South Africa isn't exactly a big AM user.

Identifying what you're hearing is going to be interesting but, hey, that keeps the grey cells alive.  Explaining to other passengers is the same as on dry land -- crew members can be inquisitive... late-night visits to a higher, exposed deck can be checked! 

And even mid-afternoon snoozing with an extended antenna poking through the deck railing earned me a visit from a Senior Officer to prove I wuzn't 'fishing' over the side!  I kid you not... he admitted his wife (so that's how Senior he was) had reported me.

You'll hear tons... enjoy it all.

TD


Re: 1010 WINS daytime reception in the UK barefoot Tecsun PL 398MP

Peter 1956
 

Thanks Jay,
Yes, I can get all of those and other NY stations daily, but not as strong as 1010 & 1130.
I have videos including them on my YouTube channel.


Peter


Re: 1010 WINS daytime reception in the UK barefoot Tecsun PL 398MP

radiojayallen
 

Very cool. Many stations in the New York area are directional out over the ocean. Try also for:

880 WCBS  (News)
770 WABC (News/Talk)
660 WFAN (Sports)

Jay


Re: 1010 WINS daytime reception in the UK barefoot Tecsun PL 398MP

Peter 1956
 

Bloomberg in daylight 06.11.2019
https://youtu.be/iiTjvScWPi4​
Peter Wilson​
Blackpool UK


Re: Cruise ship dxing

kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
 

Cruise ships are probably much noisier now since 2013 as more and more of them are deploying cellular and wifi services on board. I have trouble listening to local AM on land at times as many of my work areas involve communication sites including cellular equipment..
73,
kevin
kc6pob

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 6:59:29 PM PST, Deron Thomas Lundy <deron.lundy@...> wrote:


I have done a little bit of cruise ship DX’ing, too.  I have mostly used my Sony 7600GR with the whip antenna. Anything with good reception from just the built-in antenna should work well on a ship. Good headphones are a must, and I have brought my Sony MDR-7506 cans with me. 

I actually have had good experiences listening on board. Looking over a log I made on a cruise in 2013, I managed to catch a few countries that were new to me, and it looked like Middle Eastern stations were coming in very well on that trip! I thought that interference was definitely better than it is in the built-up suburban areas I have lived. One disappointment is with MW and LW listening. I have never caught any MW stations of note, and I have not heard any LW broadcast stations.

Most of my listening has been done in a lounge chair on deck somewhere, on the balcony, or even while relaxing on a beach reading a book. I don’t have the chance to either read for fun or SWL’ing much, so they are both great ways for me to relax on vacation!! 

Deron, K8OSU

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