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Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Gary DeBock
 

<<<   Yes having Yum Cha - with relatives that you have not seen for a while can take up plenty of time
Tony VK2IC   >>>

<<<   Nothing more sporting than going to Dim Sum and watching family and friends battle over the bill! Especially when you are too stuffed to move.
73, kevin
kc6pob    >>>

Tony,

Once my wife and her friends got into an HK teahouse the concept of time went out the window (I think you know the routine). I usually chased DX around local midnight, after the last subway train left the teahouse area.

As for fighting over the bill, Kevin, I found out that if a "Gweilo" (foreign devil) uses his Chinese to ask the waitress in advance for the bill, he stands a decent chance of finally ending up with it-- assuming that none of the Chinese diners has beat him to the punch with an earlier request.

73, Gary

 
   


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

kevin asato <kc6pob@...>
 

Nothing more sporting than going to Dim Sum and watching family and friends battle over the bill! Especially when you are too stuffed to move.
73,
kevin
kc6pob

On Friday, April 12, 2019, 5:07:11 PM PDT, Tony Magon <temagon@...> wrote:


Yes having Yum Cha - with relatives that you have not seen for a while can take up plenty of time

Tony VK2IC

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 9:24 AM Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Steve,

<<<    Interesting as usual, but seems you ran out of luck with these locations:

 

https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/attractions/best-hong-kong-beaches   >>>

Thanks very much for the link, Steve (which I could have used while in HK).

Part of the challenge for me while in Hong Kong was to convince my wife of the necessity of DXing around salt water, rather than to spend 90% of the day talking with family and friends in famous teahouses. You would think that with the call sign of KC7BAR (General Class) she would at least have some appreciation of the priority of long range DX.

By the way, we were married in Hong Kong under the Union Jack (1990), and we were certainly not the only ones in Hong Kong missing the previous British administration.

73, Gary

 

 


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Tony Magon
 

Yes having Yum Cha - with relatives that you have not seen for a while can take up plenty of time

Tony VK2IC

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 9:24 AM Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Steve,

<<<    Interesting as usual, but seems you ran out of luck with these locations:

 

https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/attractions/best-hong-kong-beaches   >>>

Thanks very much for the link, Steve (which I could have used while in HK).

Part of the challenge for me while in Hong Kong was to convince my wife of the necessity of DXing around salt water, rather than to spend 90% of the day talking with family and friends in famous teahouses. You would think that with the call sign of KC7BAR (General Class) she would at least have some appreciation of the priority of long range DX.

By the way, we were married in Hong Kong under the Union Jack (1990), and we were certainly not the only ones in Hong Kong missing the previous British administration.

73, Gary

 

 


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Steve,

<<<    Interesting as usual, but seems you ran out of luck with these locations:

 

https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/attractions/best-hong-kong-beaches   >>>

Thanks very much for the link, Steve (which I could have used while in HK).

Part of the challenge for me while in Hong Kong was to convince my wife of the necessity of DXing around salt water, rather than to spend 90% of the day talking with family and friends in famous teahouses. You would think that with the call sign of KC7BAR (General Class) she would at least have some appreciation of the priority of long range DX.

By the way, we were married in Hong Kong under the Union Jack (1990), and we were certainly not the only ones in Hong Kong missing the previous British administration.

73, Gary

 


Just bought a pristine Sangean ATS818

lamontcranston17
 

I stopped at a Church sale and saw a pristine Sangean 818 for sale with manual but no power supply.
The unit had no batteries, so one of the sellers and  I looked through a box of wallwarts and found a usable unit.
Or so we thought, nothing we did got the radio to power up, I looked it over thinking there might be a lock switch but didn't see it.
The seller said he would take $1.00 and I could have the power supply also.
 I took it home started to install batteries to test it, it had one AA battery still stuck down in the holder, it was a bit corroded, but the
contact was not. I read the manual about installing batteries and it mentioned putting the lock switch on Lock before installing batteries.
 So I found the lock switch installed batteries, and it powers up and works fine.
  I needed a new radio, the hurricane caused a power surge and ruined my ATS803A.
Just wanted to brag, I bought a nice radio for $1.00 :-) although not an ultralight.
                                      Mikek


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Steve Whitt
 

Hi Gary

Interesting as usual, but seems you ran out of luck with these locations:

 

https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/attractions/best-hong-kong-beaches

 

73

Steve

 

 

From: main@UltralightDX.groups.io [mailto:main@UltralightDX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary DeBock via Groups.Io
Sent: 11 April 2019 16:45
To: main@UltralightDX.groups.io
Subject: [UltralightDX] Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

 

What happens when you find yourself in an overcrowded city with almost every ocean beach either inaccessible, restricted or with dubious security? Well, you definitely need to "think outside of the box"-- or your entire DXing trip will be wasted.

Hong Kong was definitely the toughest DXing venue I've ever faced, and there were no quick solutions to its serious issues of overcrowding, lack of privacy and huge high rise buildings almost everywhere. My brother in law kindly offered to let us stay in a flat on the 12th floor of a high rise apartment building in Shatin (miles away from any salt water), which would save us the cost of a motel, but it looked like a nightmare for any serious DXing. To add to the misery Mainland Chinese stations occupied most all of the MW frequencies, and Hong Kong itself featured 5 local pests, which seemed to be strategically located on the frequencies of 567-Laos, 621-AIR and 675-Turkmenistan.

Since setting up the 5 inch FSL next to any salt water seemed to be highly unlikely a modified (7.5 inch loopstick) CC Skywave Ultralight was pushed to the absolute limit with daytime DXing trips to the polluted salt water of Macau, Hong Kong's (awesome) plunging ocean cliff of Cape D'Aguilar and the ocean harbor areas-- but daytime DXing can only get you so far. At night in the outdoor areas the 7.5 inch loopstick could pull in China and the Southeast Asian nations, but that was about it. There seemed to be a 500 mile barrier for any long range DX, and the 5 inch FSL was still sitting in its plastic tote after 4 days. I couldn't even track down Japan!

The breakthrough came on the 5th day, when I discovered that if I stuck the hot-rodded CC Skywave outside of the jail-like security window on the 12th floor of the high rise building I could totally escape the noisy RFI, and finally receive some long range DX around sunrise. My Japanese DXer friends Hiroyuki Okamura and Satoshi Miyauchi had given me a list of powerful Middle East, African and Eastern European big gun MW stations to try for, and as long as my hand didn't get cramps from holding the radio outside the window for too long I was going for them all! The first of these stations to be received was 1413-Vesti FM in Grigoriopol, Moldova, in weak Russian at 2205 UTC on 4-6, followed by a strong signal in Pashto from 1413-BBC in Oman at 1828 UTC on 4-7. During the same early morning session 1548-TWR in Grigoriopol, Moldova was received weakly in presumed Bulgarian at 1903, and finally 1431- Radio Sawa from Djibouti (in East Africa) managed a good signal in Arabic with a "Radio Sawa" ID at 2143. Tracking down all of these long range stations on a 7.5 inch loopstick in downtown Hong Kong was a huge thrill, and none of these stations would have been received without the advice of the Japanese DXers, who deserve special thanks-- along with the language assessment experts on Real DX such as Mauno, Jari S. and C.K. Raman. You guys really rock!

1413   BBC   A'Seela, Oman  (800 kW)   BBC foreign service program in Pashto featuring a male/ female format with strong interval music from 8 seconds to 23 seconds: (thanks to C.K. Raman for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/a3z0gtbvmyd434lrjjck24akzvsx3knl
1413   Vesti FM   Grigoriopol. Moldova  (500 kW)   Russian language at a modest level at 2205 on 4-6 (thanks to Mauno and Dmitry for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2q53deb3drgar4vr0gmjkul0nywi7zba
1431   Radio Sawa   Djibouti  (600 kW)   Female in fairly strong Arabic at 2143 on 4-7 with "Radio Sawa" ID at 5 seconds (thanks to Chuck and Bill W. for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/tuke49dichs8erpycbb9mivkr9dx45fo
1548   TWR   Grigoriopol, Moldova  (500 kW)   Presumed Bulgarian at a modest level at 1903 on 4-7 after apparent sign on at 1900 UTC (thanks to Jari S. and Mauno for station information)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xsg8essm13gv0zhc8rwhqm5cuxc99hdq

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (DXing in Hong Kong from April 2-9)
7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave SSB Ultralight (stuck outside a window on the 12th floor of a downtown high rise apartment building, as in the attached photo)


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Gary DeBock
 

<<<    Gosh, we are all relieved that cramp didn't drop the rx twelve storeys
 
down onto the head of a security guy, which could have resulted in
many years hosted and provided for by the authorities - probably
doubled once they dissected your spyware-modded rx...

Welcome home, Buddy!

Michael UK      >>>

Thanks Michael,

Actually the hand cramps didn't seem to start up until a critical DXing moment like during an ID or a top of the hour routine, at which time I faced the dubious choice of covering the exotic signal with RFI, or taking a risk that the Skywave might become a "Frequent Flyer."

A couple of times it seemed that I had drawn the undesired attention of some Chinese pedestrians directly below my position, who promptly moved away from the fallout zone at warp speed.

73, Gary
 


Re: Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Michael.2E0IHW
 

On 11/04/2019 16:44, Gary DeBock via Groups.Io wrote:
Hong Kong was definitely the toughest DXing venue I've ever faced,
...and as long as my hand didn't get cramps from holding the radio
outside the window for too long I was going for them all!
.................................................

Gosh, we are all relieved that cramp didn't drop the rx twelve storeys
down onto the head of a security guy, which could have resulted in
many years hosted and provided for by the authorities - probably
doubled once they dissected your spyware-modded rx...

Welcome home, Buddy!

Michael UK





Hong Kong 7.5 inch Loopstick European, African and Middle East DX

Gary DeBock
 

What happens when you find yourself in an overcrowded city with almost every ocean beach either inaccessible, restricted or with dubious security? Well, you definitely need to "think outside of the box"-- or your entire DXing trip will be wasted.

Hong Kong was definitely the toughest DXing venue I've ever faced, and there were no quick solutions to its serious issues of overcrowding, lack of privacy and huge high rise buildings almost everywhere. My brother in law kindly offered to let us stay in a flat on the 12th floor of a high rise apartment building in Shatin (miles away from any salt water), which would save us the cost of a motel, but it looked like a nightmare for any serious DXing. To add to the misery Mainland Chinese stations occupied most all of the MW frequencies, and Hong Kong itself featured 5 local pests, which seemed to be strategically located on the frequencies of 567-Laos, 621-AIR and 675-Turkmenistan.

Since setting up the 5 inch FSL next to any salt water seemed to be highly unlikely a modified (7.5 inch loopstick) CC Skywave Ultralight was pushed to the absolute limit with daytime DXing trips to the polluted salt water of Macau, Hong Kong's (awesome) plunging ocean cliff of Cape D'Aguilar and the ocean harbor areas-- but daytime DXing can only get you so far. At night in the outdoor areas the 7.5 inch loopstick could pull in China and the Southeast Asian nations, but that was about it. There seemed to be a 500 mile barrier for any long range DX, and the 5 inch FSL was still sitting in its plastic tote after 4 days. I couldn't even track down Japan!

The breakthrough came on the 5th day, when I discovered that if I stuck the hot-rodded CC Skywave outside of the jail-like security window on the 12th floor of the high rise building I could totally escape the noisy RFI, and finally receive some long range DX around sunrise. My Japanese DXer friends Hiroyuki Okamura and Satoshi Miyauchi had given me a list of powerful Middle East, African and Eastern European big gun MW stations to try for, and as long as my hand didn't get cramps from holding the radio outside the window for too long I was going for them all! The first of these stations to be received was 1413-Vesti FM in Grigoriopol, Moldova, in weak Russian at 2205 UTC on 4-6, followed by a strong signal in Pashto from 1413-BBC in Oman at 1828 UTC on 4-7. During the same early morning session 1548-TWR in Grigoriopol, Moldova was received weakly in presumed Bulgarian at 1903, and finally 1431- Radio Sawa from Djibouti (in East Africa) managed a good signal in Arabic with a "Radio Sawa" ID at 2143. Tracking down all of these long range stations on a 7.5 inch loopstick in downtown Hong Kong was a huge thrill, and none of these stations would have been received without the advice of the Japanese DXers, who deserve special thanks-- along with the language assessment experts on Real DX such as Mauno, Jari S. and C.K. Raman. You guys really rock!

1413   BBC   A'Seela, Oman  (800 kW)   BBC foreign service program in Pashto featuring a male/ female format with strong interval music from 8 seconds to 23 seconds: (thanks to C.K. Raman for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/a3z0gtbvmyd434lrjjck24akzvsx3knl
1413   Vesti FM   Grigoriopol. Moldova  (500 kW)   Russian language at a modest level at 2205 on 4-6 (thanks to Mauno and Dmitry for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/2q53deb3drgar4vr0gmjkul0nywi7zba
1431   Radio Sawa   Djibouti  (600 kW)   Female in fairly strong Arabic at 2143 on 4-7 with "Radio Sawa" ID at 5 seconds (thanks to Chuck and Bill W. for the language and station identification)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/tuke49dichs8erpycbb9mivkr9dx45fo
1548   TWR   Grigoriopol, Moldova  (500 kW)   Presumed Bulgarian at a modest level at 1903 on 4-7 after apparent sign on at 1900 UTC (thanks to Jari S. and Mauno for station information)  https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xsg8essm13gv0zhc8rwhqm5cuxc99hdq

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (DXing in Hong Kong from April 2-9)
7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave SSB Ultralight (stuck outside a window on the 12th floor of a downtown high rise apartment building, as in the attached photo)


Re: For Sale

Joe Lanoue
 

Still looking for a new home for my  Grundig G8, and Tecsun PL-380.  Both in excellent (i.e. new) condition.  I never got around to using them. The prices are as follows:

Grundig G8             $75  (+shipping)
Tecsun PL-380        $25  (+shipping)

Thanks..

.. Joe
Cheshire, CT


Re: For Sale

gordrstaples
 

Thanks for the info.  I tried this on both my pl380 and found it unfortunately didn't make any difference.  The soft mute was still there with audio level 'pumping' on all but the strongest local stations.
Gord

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 9:17 AM Rémy Friess <rfriess@...> wrote:
You can get rid of the soft mute.

Tune to an empty SW channel.

Press VF to make sure you are not in memory mode.

Press VF again until it starts scanning.

Stop the scan with the tuning thumbwheel by tuning downwards.

The background noise becomes louder. You are done.

However, if you switch the set off and on again the muting is active again and you have to go through the whole process again.

BTW this works with the PL310 as well.

73, Rémy.


Le 01/04/2019 05:13, gordrstaples a écrit :
Is the pl380 still available?  If so what year was it manufactured?  The newer ones have annoying soft mute. 2014 on.
Also what is your location?
Gord

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 10:05 PM Joe Lanoue <joe.lanoue@...> wrote:
Looking for a new home for my Sony SRF-615, Grundig G8, and Tecsun PL-380.  All in excellent (i.e. new) condition.  I never got around to using them. The prices are as follows:

Sony SRF-615        $75
Grundig G8             $100
Tecsun PL-380        $25

Or, $165 for all three.

Thanks..

.. Joe


Re: For Sale

Rémy Friess
 

You can get rid of the soft mute.

Tune to an empty SW channel.

Press VF to make sure you are not in memory mode.

Press VF again until it starts scanning.

Stop the scan with the tuning thumbwheel by tuning downwards.

The background noise becomes louder. You are done.

However, if you switch the set off and on again the muting is active again and you have to go through the whole process again.

BTW this works with the PL310 as well.

73, Rémy.


Le 01/04/2019 05:13, gordrstaples a écrit :
Is the pl380 still available?  If so what year was it manufactured?  The newer ones have annoying soft mute. 2014 on.
Also what is your location?
Gord

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 10:05 PM Joe Lanoue <joe.lanoue@...> wrote:
Looking for a new home for my Sony SRF-615, Grundig G8, and Tecsun PL-380.  All in excellent (i.e. new) condition.  I never got around to using them. The prices are as follows:

Sony SRF-615        $75
Grundig G8             $100
Tecsun PL-380        $25

Or, $165 for all three.

Thanks..

.. Joe


Re: For Sale

gordrstaples
 

Is the pl380 still available?  If so what year was it manufactured?  The newer ones have annoying soft mute. 2014 on.
Also what is your location?
Gord


On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 10:05 PM Joe Lanoue <joe.lanoue@...> wrote:
Looking for a new home for my Sony SRF-615, Grundig G8, and Tecsun PL-380.  All in excellent (i.e. new) condition.  I never got around to using them. The prices are as follows:

Sony SRF-615        $75
Grundig G8             $100
Tecsun PL-380        $25

Or, $165 for all three.

Thanks..

.. Joe


Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

dypete
 

Thanks Gary.......
Finally got it.
Stay well!
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 09:37 PM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


<<<    I do get to see it for about 1 second then it goes back to the time.
I would like it to remain on the screen in the upper right hand corner as the manual
states. I have done exactly as you have stated. Is that the way it functions; a quick glimpse? 
Pete   >>>

No, the signal strength display should stay on, once you have selected it.

You may have a new R-108 quality control issue that has not yet been reported by others (as if that was anything unusual).

Gary

   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Hi Gary,
I do get to see it for about 1 second then it goes back to the time.
I would like it to remain on the screen in the upper right hand corner as the manual
states. I have done exactly as you have stated. Is that the way it functions; a quick glimpse? 
Pete



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 09:10 PM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


<<<    How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete   >>>

Pete,

Toggle the "Display" button (the one below the orange On-Off button, with the "key" logo) until you get the same dBu/dB signal strength display that shows up on the Tecsun PL-310/PL-380 models.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

To all.....
My apologies for changing the thread.
I have question.
How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Rémy Friess <rfriess@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

> You need to be very specific about what you mean here.

You're absolutely right.

> C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
> manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
>
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely
different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the
longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a
local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

> Also, what about Tecsun?  Where are they based?  Are they stealing
> designs or doing it themselves?  I quite like my PL-606.
>
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as
the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with
them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been
rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if
the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were
pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios
were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using
it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium
and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the
Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.








Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Gary DeBock
 

<<<    I do get to see it for about 1 second then it goes back to the time.
I would like it to remain on the screen in the upper right hand corner as the manual
states. I have done exactly as you have stated. Is that the way it functions; a quick glimpse? 
Pete   >>>

No, the signal strength display should stay on, once you have selected it.

You may have a new R-108 quality control issue that has not yet been reported by others (as if that was anything unusual).

Gary

   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Hi Gary,
I do get to see it for about 1 second then it goes back to the time.
I would like it to remain on the screen in the upper right hand corner as the manual
states. I have done exactly as you have stated. Is that the way it functions; a quick glimpse? 
Pete



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 09:10 PM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


<<<    How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete   >>>

Pete,

Toggle the "Display" button (the one below the orange On-Off button, with the "key" logo) until you get the same dBu/dB signal strength display that shows up on the Tecsun PL-310/PL-380 models.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

To all.....
My apologies for changing the thread.
I have question.
How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Rémy Friess <rfriess@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

> You need to be very specific about what you mean here.

You're absolutely right.

> C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
> manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
>
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely
different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the
longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a
local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

> Also, what about Tecsun?  Where are they based?  Are they stealing
> designs or doing it themselves?  I quite like my PL-606.
>
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as
the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with
them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been
rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if
the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were
pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios
were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using
it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium
and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the
Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.








Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

dypete
 

Hi Gary,
I do get to see it for about 1 second then it goes back to the time.
I would like it to remain on the screen in the upper right hand corner as the manual
states. I have done exactly as you have stated. Is that the way it functions; a quick glimpse? 
Pete



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary DeBock via Groups.Io <D1028Gary@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 09:10 PM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


<<<    How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete   >>>

Pete,

Toggle the "Display" button (the one below the orange On-Off button, with the "key" logo) until you get the same dBu/dB signal strength display that shows up on the Tecsun PL-310/PL-380 models.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

To all.....
My apologies for changing the thread.
I have question.
How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Rémy Friess <rfriess@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

> You need to be very specific about what you mean here.

You're absolutely right.

> C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
> manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
>
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely
different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the
longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a
local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

> Also, what about Tecsun?  Where are they based?  Are they stealing
> designs or doing it themselves?  I quite like my PL-606.
>
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as
the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with
them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been
rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if
the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were
pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios
were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using
it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium
and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the
Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.








Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Gary DeBock
 

<<<    How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete   >>>

Pete,

Toggle the "Display" button (the one below the orange On-Off button, with the "key" logo) until you get the same dBu/dB signal strength display that shows up on the Tecsun PL-310/PL-380 models.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: Dypete via Groups.Io <dypete@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 11:16 am
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

To all.....
My apologies for changing the thread.
I have question.
How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Rémy Friess <rfriess@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

> You need to be very specific about what you mean here.

You're absolutely right.

> C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
> manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
>
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely
different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the
longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a
local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

> Also, what about Tecsun?  Where are they based?  Are they stealing
> designs or doing it themselves?  I quite like my PL-606.
>
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as
the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with
them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been
rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if
the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were
pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios
were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using
it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium
and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the
Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.








Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

dypete
 

To all.....
My apologies for changing the thread.
I have question.
How do I  get the Radio R 108 to show signal strength? 
Tried, can't get it.
Thanks 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Rémy Friess <rfriess@...>
To: main <main@UltralightDX.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UltralightDX] Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"


Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

> You need to be very specific about what you mean here.

You're absolutely right.

> C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
> manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
>
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely
different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the
longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a
local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

> Also, what about Tecsun?  Where are they based?  Are they stealing
> designs or doing it themselves?  I quite like my PL-606.
>
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as
the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with
them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been
rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if
the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were
pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios
were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using
it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium
and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the
Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.








Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Rémy Friess
 

Le 31/03/2019 16:18, Peter Laws a écrit :

You need to be very specific about what you mean here.
You're absolutely right.

C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
manufacturing to Chinese companies ...
Since it is an American design, I won't regard it as a "Chinese" radio.

I don't think I'll ever buy a C.Crane radio though, but for an entirely different reason: none of the C.Crane models I know of features the longwave band. So these radios are out of the picture for me anyway.

I'll also keep on buying DAB+ radios and TV settop boxes from CGV, a local company here that has its production manufactured in China.

Also, what about Tecsun? Where are they based? Are they stealing
designs or doing it themselves? I quite like my PL-606.
Since many of the Tecsun radios are, I think, based on the same chip as the C.Crane/XHDATA... I have my doubts.

Anyway I had several Tecsun models, and I was never really pleased with them. The PL-880 I had was a piece of crap... The PL-660 might have been rather good if the frequency display hadn't been several kHz off and if the synchronous detector had worked. The PL-310 and the PL-380 were pretty good, but after 6 months all the buttons were dead and the radios were useless, and the PL-310ET had such poor audio that I gave up using it after two weeks.

I have several models from SONY, dating back to the previous millenium and they are in much better condition after almost 3 decades than the Tecsuns after as many months.

Regards,

Rémy.


Re: Radiwow R-108 "Warranty"

Peter Laws
 

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:09 AM Rémy Friess <rfriess@...> wrote:
I entirely agree with you and I feel the DX-community should boycott Chinese products altogether.
You need to be very specific about what you mean here. I don't know
for certain but if you mean "boycott radios manufactured in China"
then you will be boycotting all (nearly all?) radios since China
manufactures all (or nearly all) radios.

C. Crane designs its radios in the USA but they still contract out the
manufacturing to Chinese companies ... companies that then pirate the
designs because Chinese culture has a completely different idea of
property rights than the USA does (and than most Western democracies
do).

It's a problem and I don't disagree with your premise it's just that
you have to define your terms carefully.

Also, what about Tecsun? Where are they based? Are they stealing
designs or doing it themselves? I quite like my PL-606.


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