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Re: FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

Paul Juarez
 

Hi Jerry,
Try changing from 9 kHz to 10 kHz. Look in the PL380 for the instructions on how to complete the change. If you do not have the user guide for the radio, Google it and download. As soon as you make the change you will be able to tune up to 1700 KHz. I hope this helps you
Thank you and best regards,
Paul Juarez
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On Feb 24, 2016 3:24 PM, "Jerry Rappel ww0e@q.com [ultralightdx]" <ultralightdx@...> wrote:

 

How do you tune up to 1700 kHz? My PL380 stops at 1620? 

 
Jerry  WWØE



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To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:16:21 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

 

This is forwarded from Jerry Popiel of Winnipeg, Manitoba, regarding the successful completion of his "Science Fiction PL-380" construction project. Jerry is the second DXer to successfully complete one of these, after my long-time tech buddy Steve Ratzlaff completed one in January. 
 
________________________________________________________
 
COMPLTED CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR NEW FSL DESIGN / ASTOUDING SENSITIVITY
 
Testing Results - No High End Distortion??
Gary, the tests I have run over the last 3 days have been nothing short of astounding or almost science fiction as you have commented. I am not seeing any high band distortion you had mentioned since I have picked up station KBGG at 1700 kHz in Des Moines Iowa - 454 miles away. On Friday night it was there for over half an hour with a signal quality of up to 37/21 - I got so excited I took a picture of the reception see below.  Also Station KDMT Denver 1690 kHz (1118 miles distance) was received  with a signal quality of up to 37/18. Any idea why no distortion - at least not so far - or could it be the 660/46 wire? 

Nulling and Sharpness and Bandwidth Options:
I can turn the Radio left to right or up and down and completely null out a stn or even pick up a new stn. This is just amazing & actually quite unbelievable at times. All of the stations in Saskatchewan i.e. CKRM Regina 620 kHz  Regina  (354 miles away) and all the daily North Dakota stations at 710, 740, 790 kHz  are being received like locals. Also as you mentioned when you switch the PL-380 as low as the 1 kHz BW setting the reception gets better again. 

Gary, one thing is for sure - you have really created something special here and I hope many others will benefit from your new super designed mini FSL’s.  The weight of the PL-380 with the new Antenna is a bit heavy - luckily I can use the Plastic sides as handles but at least it is portable. Ideally something lighter would probably be better. Can’t wait to hear about your new 5 - 100mm Bar design and how many turns of wire will it require?
See pics I will try to send, your comments would be very much appreciated. 

Jerry 

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Re: FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

Jerry Rappel <ww0e@...>
 

Got it, thanks.

Jerry



From: "jerry_popiel@... [ultralightdx]"
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 5:20:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

 

Jerry Rappel WWOE - there is a 9/10 kHz switch built into  the PL-380 - its keypad button #3 - long press it until the 10 appears  with the radio turned off  and it will give you full AM Bandwidth coverage from 520 - 1710 kHz for North America. 


Thanks 
Jerry Popiel



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Re: FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

jerry_popiel
 

Jerry Rappel WWOE - there is a 9/10 kHz switch built into  the PL-380 - its keypad button #3 - long press it until the 10 appears  with the radio turned off  and it will give you full AM Bandwidth coverage from 520 - 1710 kHz for North America. 

Thanks 
Jerry Popiel


Re: FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

Jerry Rappel <ww0e@...>
 

How do you tune up to 1700 kHz? My PL380 stops at 1620? 

 
Jerry  WWØE




From: "D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]"
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:16:21 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

 

This is forwarded from Jerry Popiel of Winnipeg, Manitoba, regarding the successful completion of his "Science Fiction PL-380" construction project. Jerry is the second DXer to successfully complete one of these, after my long-time tech buddy Steve Ratzlaff completed one in January. 
 
________________________________________________________
 
COMPLTED CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR NEW FSL DESIGN / ASTOUDING SENSITIVITY
 
Testing Results - No High End Distortion??
Gary, the tests I have run over the last 3 days have been nothing short of astounding or almost science fiction as you have commented. I am not seeing any high band distortion you had mentioned since I have picked up station KBGG at 1700 kHz in Des Moines Iowa - 454 miles away. On Friday night it was there for over half an hour with a signal quality of up to 37/21 - I got so excited I took a picture of the reception see below.  Also Station KDMT Denver 1690 kHz (1118 miles distance) was received  with a signal quality of up to 37/18. Any idea why no distortion - at least not so far - or could it be the 660/46 wire? 

Nulling and Sharpness and Bandwidth Options:
I can turn the Radio left to right or up and down and completely null out a stn or even pick up a new stn. This is just amazing & actually quite unbelievable at times. All of the stations in Saskatchewan i.e. CKRM Regina 620 kHz  Regina  (354 miles away) and all the daily North Dakota stations at 710, 740, 790 kHz  are being received like locals. Also as you mentioned when you switch the PL-380 as low as the 1 kHz BW setting the reception gets better again. 

Gary, one thing is for sure - you have really created something special here and I hope many others will benefit from your new super designed mini FSL’s.  The weight of the PL-380 with the new Antenna is a bit heavy - luckily I can use the Plastic sides as handles but at least it is portable. Ideally something lighter would probably be better. Can’t wait to hear about your new 5 - 100mm Bar design and how many turns of wire will it require?
See pics I will try to send, your comments would be very much appreciated. 

Jerry 


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Re: CC Skywave for Christmas

Paul Juarez
 

Hi Vance,
I got my CC Skywave on Christmas also. Yes, I run barefoot and am very pleased with its sensitivity and selectivity. Living in a condo here in Chicago this little guy really performs. I live about 10 miles away from four 50kw stations. No images or problems three of the stations have Iboc HD signals. So a lot of co-channel Iboc hash. But only the two channels next to each are affected. Like you I am really impressed with the little guys reception. It out receives my Sony 2010. During the day I receive WLW 700 From Cincinnati barefoot next to an outside window. Thank you for your report. Like you I am really impressed with the Skywave receive on the AM band. Well worth the 90 bucks I paid for it. The other radios that come close to the receive on AM is my PL390 and the Kaito 1103. However, they both have longer internal AM antennas.
Thank you for your report and best regards,
Paul Juarez
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FWD From Jerry Popiel-- Completion of 3" Bar FSL Tecsun Pl-380 Project

Gary DeBock
 

This is forwarded from Jerry Popiel of Winnipeg, Manitoba, regarding the successful completion of his "Science Fiction PL-380" construction project. Jerry is the second DXer to successfully complete one of these, after my long-time tech buddy Steve Ratzlaff completed one in January. 
 
________________________________________________________
 
COMPLTED CONSTRUCTION OF YOUR NEW FSL DESIGN / ASTOUDING SENSITIVITY
 
Testing Results - No High End Distortion??
Gary, the tests I have run over the last 3 days have been nothing short of astounding or almost science fiction as you have commented. I am not seeing any high band distortion you had mentioned since I have picked up station KBGG at 1700 kHz in Des Moines Iowa - 454 miles away. On Friday night it was there for over half an hour with a signal quality of up to 37/21 - I got so excited I took a picture of the reception see below.  Also Station KDMT Denver 1690 kHz (1118 miles distance) was received  with a signal quality of up to 37/18. Any idea why no distortion - at least not so far - or could it be the 660/46 wire? 

Nulling and Sharpness and Bandwidth Options:
I can turn the Radio left to right or up and down and completely null out a stn or even pick up a new stn. This is just amazing & actually quite unbelievable at times. All of the stations in Saskatchewan i.e. CKRM Regina 620 kHz  Regina  (354 miles away) and all the daily North Dakota stations at 710, 740, 790 kHz  are being received like locals. Also as you mentioned when you switch the PL-380 as low as the 1 kHz BW setting the reception gets better again. 

Gary, one thing is for sure - you have really created something special here and I hope many others will benefit from your new super designed mini FSL’s.  The weight of the PL-380 with the new Antenna is a bit heavy - luckily I can use the Plastic sides as handles but at least it is portable. Ideally something lighter would probably be better. Can’t wait to hear about your new 5 - 100mm Bar design and how many turns of wire will it require?
See pics I will try to send, your comments would be very much appreciated. 

Jerry 


CC Skywave for Christmas

Gary Vance
 

My wife gave me a CC Skywave for Christmas.

I love the little guy.

Most of my radios are female. But the Skywave, is a hard working son of a gun.

 

I live in Mid-Michigan, and there are two stations I couldn’t hear at my QTH, unless I used a radio that had selectable SSB or Sync detection.

 

This Saturday, using the Skywave, I heard both stations.

 

I heard, 660 kHz WMIC Sandusky MI and 680 kHz WDBC Escanaba MI, on an honest to goodness ultralight radio.

 

Both stations are obscured by IBOC hash, from Chicago’s 670 kHz WSCR.

 

On my SSB radios, I discovered I could circumvent WSCR’s IBOC hash, using the side band towards the offending 670 kHz signal.

For the 660 kHz station, I use USB, for the 680 kHz station LSB.

 

I decided to pretend the Skywave had SSB.

Lo and behold, I heard WMIC on 662 kHz with the filter set on the 2 kHz wide mode.

Then I heard WCBC on 678 kHz using the same bandwidth setting.

 

I’ll be darned, the first time I ever heard those stations at this location without SSB,

As good as my other URLs are, they can’t dig out either of these stations.

The only down side to my Skywave is the hyper active AGC. I wish I could tone it down a bit.

Other than that, the Skywave is one heck of a radio.

 

73 G. Vance

 


Re: Longwave ULR DXing for Euro-Broadcasters

Guido Schotmans
 

The best and most up-to-date list is MWList that can be found here http://www.mwlist.org/mwlist_quick_and_easy.php

 

There is/was also the EMWG, but the editor stopped updating it. http://www.hermanboel.eu/en-emwg-lw.htm

 

73,

 

Guido.

 

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162 France Inter, 183 Europe 1, 234 Radio Luxembourg are the
stronger stations still broadcasting in French. BBC Radio 4
on 198 is worth a try. At UTC night-time it broadcasts the
BBC World Service. If you use a frequency listing, make sure
it is up-to-date as some stations have closed down, notably
Germany on 153, 177 and 207kHz.

The front-end sensitivity of the 7600 is lower - not least
because it is untuned. I am not familiar with the GP-5, but
would assume the same.

Michael


On 19.02.16 02:31, farmerik@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
> Tonight I am hearing a station on 162 KHz. There has been two men taking
> turns talking in an unhurried fashion, [unlike domestic AM] and now
> there is a song with a male singer and piano. I think it is French
> language. This nights radio is a PL-310ET coupled to my 500 foot BOG
> with a C.Crane ferrite unit sold with the CC amplified MW antenna.
>
> I can't find any listen able LW station on the GP-5/SSB or the SONY
> ICF-SW7600GR plugged into the BOG.

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Re: Longwave ULR DXing for Euro-Broadcasters

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

162 France Inter, 183 Europe 1, 234 Radio Luxembourg are the
stronger stations still broadcasting in French. BBC Radio 4
on 198 is worth a try. At UTC night-time it broadcasts the
BBC World Service. If you use a frequency listing, make sure
it is up-to-date as some stations have closed down, notably
Germany on 153, 177 and 207kHz.

The front-end sensitivity of the 7600 is lower - not least
because it is untuned. I am not familiar with the GP-5, but
would assume the same.

Michael

On 19.02.16 02:31, farmerik@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
Tonight I am hearing a station on 162 KHz. There has been two men taking
turns talking in an unhurried fashion, [unlike domestic AM] and now
there is a song with a male singer and piano. I think it is French
language. This nights radio is a PL-310ET coupled to my 500 foot BOG
with a C.Crane ferrite unit sold with the CC amplified MW antenna.

I can't find any listen able LW station on the GP-5/SSB or the SONY
ICF-SW7600GR plugged into the BOG.


Newfoundland Ultralight Radio Log Frb 18

Allen Willie
 


Hello To All,


New catch on Ultralight Radio this evening



1287 khz - IRAN - IRIB Radio Iran Fars, Lar 23:35 UTC man in Farsi, ment. Iran (Very strong ) // 1503


Ultralight Station # 1343     Trans-Atlantic Station # 532



Receiver: Sony SRF-M37W barefoot mode


Good DX


Allen Willie VOPC1AA
Carbonear, Newfoundland


Re: Longwave ULR DXing for Euro-Broadcasters

Rik
 

Tonight I am hearing a station on 162 KHz. There has been two men taking turns talking in an unhurried fashion, [unlike domestic AM] and now there is a song with a male singer and piano. I think it is French language. This nights radio is a PL-310ET coupled to my 500 foot BOG with a C.Crane ferrite unit sold with the CC amplified MW antenna.

I can't find any listen able LW station on the GP-5/SSB or the SONY ICF-SW7600GR plugged into the BOG.

-FARMERIK


Re: Longwave ULR DXing for Euro-Broadcasters

robert ross
 


On 2016-02-17, at 8:43 PM, jga747@... [ultralightdx] wrote:

 

Mr. Ross, I am new to Ultra Light DXing and was told you're the authority on European Long wave reception. I have a few Ultralights to choose from, but would like to see what you recommend for an antenna. Also I am in Buffalo, so not to far from you, any advice on the best chances for receiving European LW from my location.



Thanks,

Joe

Hello Joe:

   For Ultralight LONGWAVE DXing I use a "Gary DeBock" TECSUN PL-380 ULR with a 7 1/2" External Ferrite Rod wound for Longwave. I also have that coupled to a "Gary DeBock" LONGWAVE FSL Antenna. 

Without the FSL Antenna, it is pretty difficult to hear the LW Broadcasters here in Ontario.  If you are in Buffalo, you are only about 120 Miles East of me…so your receive conditions should be similar to mine. 

I think you would have a hard time receiving the Euro-Broadcasters without at least an External Ferrite Rod on a Tecsun PL-380…..Barefoot would be a real challenge.

With the "Gary DeBock" Tecsun PL-380 and FSL Antenna, I have heard 11 Different Euro Longwave Broadcasters……Not sure if that makes me an "Authority" or not,  but that's a good assortment of what is currently available to hear over there. Even with the listed gear…these stations are not regularly heard, and are not easy to hear…….

73………ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


Re: Advice for a newbie

Rik
 

Thanks, with your help I was able to get the display on the GP-5/SSB to read LW frequencies, but all I heard on both the BOG and a 50 foot aerial was images from MW which were stronger than beacons, and nothing sounded like LW, although possibly there was a signal buried some where. I wondered if band conditions were much worse than I had the other night, so I tried the SONY ICF-SW7600GR and confirmed they are. With the variable antenna input ATT, I could get rid of the images from MW, but not hear any listen able LW stations tonight.

When actually tuning LW broadcasts on the ICOM, they sound similar for a few 1 KHz. steps, but every 1 KHz step sounded different on the GP-5/SSB.

-FARMERIK


Re: New ULR Log #950

Joe
 

Mr. Ross, I am new to Ultra Light DXing and was told you're the authority on European Long wave reception. I have a few Ultralights to choose from, but would like to see what you recommend for an antenna. Also I am in Buffalo, so not to far from you, any advice on the best chances for receiving European LW from my location.


Thanks,

Joe


Re: Advice for a newbie

Joe
 

Thanks for the helpful infomation. To get the radio into LW, you hold the 9 khz button down and then hold down the MW button. This should work.


Re: Advice for a newbie

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Michael,
 
<<<   Do we have reports of reception in the US of European LW broadcast
stations with any of the FSL designs?   >>>
 
Yes. Rob Ross of London, Ontario has received almost all of the European Longwave broadcasters with his 7" Longwave FSL antenna. Richard Allen of Oklahoma has even received several of them with a PL-360 plug-in  7.5" Longwave loopstick.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael michael.setaazul@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2016 1:09 am
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Advice for a newbie

 


On 17.02.16 03:25, farmerik@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
. . .
> Others in this group have LW FSL antennas, maybe they could work for
> you, I really don't know.
-------------------
Do we have reports of reception in the US of European LW broadcast
stations with any of the FSL designs. I imagine the maxi-version would
be most likely to pull in European LW stations. One needs quite a bit of
real estate for a Beverage! That said, it is uncertain how much
longer Europe will be on LW.

Michael
on a little island east of The Pond :-)


Re: Advice for a newbie

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

On 17.02.16 03:25, farmerik@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
. . .
Others in this group have LW FSL antennas, maybe they could work for
you, I really don't know.
-------------------
Do we have reports of reception in the US of European LW broadcast stations with any of the FSL designs. I imagine the maxi-version would be most likely to pull in European LW stations. One needs quite a bit of real estate for a Beverage! That said, it is uncertain how much
longer Europe will be on LW.

Michael
on a little island east of The Pond :-)


Re: 2" Bar FSL Tecsun PL-380 and CC Skywave Models

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Farmerik,
 
<<<    My question is have you given any thought or done any testing with those two vertical format DSP radios and the 'Baby FSL's' ?   >>>
 
The PL-360 uses the same Si4734 DSP chip as the PL-380, so all of the "Baby FSL's" developed for the PL-380 will work just as well in the PL-360 and GP5/SSB. I did some extensive experimentation in 2011 to design 7.5" plug-in MW and LW loopsticks for the PL-360 model (described in the article posted at http://www.mediafire.com/view/2cqwsqj0bvajf6k/7.5_inch-LS.doc ) so the mechanical aspects of how to attach the "Baby FSL's" to the PL-360 plug-in antenna frames are already well known. The question is whether there is enough time and interest to continue the current "Baby FSL" experimentation over into the PL-360 and GP5/SSB models.
 
By the way, Farmerik, back in 2011 you already purchased both a 7.5" Medium Wave and a 7.5" Longwave PL-360 plug-in loopstick from me, and both of these plug-in antennas have been used by other DXers to receive TA stations in locations as far west as Oklahoma. They would also both work very well in the GP5/SSB model.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
     
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: farmerik@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2016 8:00 am
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: 2" Bar FSL Tecsun PL-380 and CC Skywave Models

 
As you may remember, I am not up to modifying these tiny radios myself so I use external antennas on the PL-360 and the similar format GP5/SSB. I believe they use different DSP chips, and of course the later has SSB and there for does not qualify as an official ULR.

My question is have you given any thought or done any testing with those two vertical format DSP radios and the 'Baby FSL's' ? - FARMERIK


Re: SW degraded with 3" FSL PL-380

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Ryan,
 
<<<   I just finished building Gary's 3" FSL PL-380 and noticed when I hook up the FSL antenna to AM1 and AM2, the shortwave reception takes a nosedive. The shortwave reception is also affected by gently moving the litz wires from side to side. When I unsolder the antenna, the shortwave reception comes back. There are no solder bridges. I did test the radio beforehand and it was O.K.   >>>
 
I have checked the Shortwave reception on the three 3" FSL PL-380 test models here, and can confirm that the SW reception is degraded, as you discovered. This is an unintended side effect of the modification, which was not discovered at the time of initial testing. For those DXers who need to use their PL-380's for SW as well as MW reception, I do not recommend the FSL transplant modification. If any of the DXers who purchased the sets of 100mm ferrite bars from me are included in this category, I will be happy to not only refund their $25 purchase cost but also pay return postage for the 100mm bars to be shipped back to me.
 
<<<   The AM side works much better than the stock antenna but not noticeably better than my Skywave w/7.5" loopstick.   >>>
 
That is far less MW performance than the three test models here provide, Ryan. All three of the 3" FSL Tecsun PL-380 test models here greatly outperform the 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave model from 530-1700 kHz, to the extent that they are not even in the same league. Without checking your model I can't really be sure of the reason, but did you use the recommended 250/46 Litz wire? If not, that would certainly be a possible reason. Any substitutions in parts or materials can cause a degradation in performance. Also, the use of shielded Litz wire (as called for in the 4.25" "Pest Control" FSL model) is not recommended for this model. The 3" Bar FSL model's design is already fairly close to the maximum RF tolerance level of the Si4734 DSP chip, and the use of shielded Litz wire pushes the RF input level past the recommended limit.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) 
 
     
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: rmartin100@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2016 6:49 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] SW degraded with 3" FSL PL-380

 
I just finished building Gary's 3" FSL PL-380 and noticed when I hook up the FSL antenna to AM1 and AM2, the shortwave reception takes a nosedive. The shortwave reception is also affected by gently moving the litz wires from side to side. When I unsolder the antenna, the shortwave reception comes back. There are no solder bridges. I did test the radio beforehand and it was O.K. The AM side works much better than the stock antenna but not noticeably better than my Skywave w/7.5" loopstick.
Any ideas on what could be wrong?
Ryan 


Re: Advice for a newbie

Rik
 

I use a 500 foot unterminated Beverage to hear European LW broadcasts. It points ENE, which I think heads more toward Northern Europe, certainly not toward France. I am about 60 miles inland from Boston harbor, but you may be closer to 550 miles inland from the Atlantic. In my experience radio waves travel better along water such as the Great Lakes and The St. Lawrence river, but as I said you are a long way inland. I used to use a temporary BOG antenna which I would lay across my field after mowing season, but some run very temporary BOG antennas just for a night or maybe a week if possible at some remote location.

Others in this group have LW FSL antennas, maybe they could work for you, I really don't know.

Could you tell me how to get my GP-5/SSB into LW? I thought you had to select 9 KHz. steps which I did, but  it still will not tune below MW. Technically a GP-5/SSB is not an ULR because it has SSB by the way.  I was able to hear some LW broadcasts from I believe the Middle East on my other ULR's with a temporary BOG heading SE a few years ago. That was the PL-360 or the PL-310.

-FARMERIK

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