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Re: New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio - Tom's YouTube Report

josephrot
 

Look forward to your review, Jay.


Although I am not (yet) personally interested in this currently new unit, I do have interest in it from our local RF and all things related technology group here in East Tennessee, and I have promised to monitor reviews on this little receiver.

 

Also, Master Tom Stiles appears to be planning additional reviews as he has more experiences with the receiver.


I will say that I did have about 15 quiet minutes with the receiver down in Atlanta, and it did seem sensitive pro and con on AM and the daytime shortwave bands, but there seemed to be some build quality issues, the chuffing/muting issues, some matter of images on the AM and SW bands, and another interested party mentioned "it seems to suck" at FM work as well, but I formed no opinion at that time on its FM qualities.

 

Joe Rotello / Knoxville, TN / USA



New ULR stations, 12/23/14

bbwrwy
 

Two new stations were heard on my SRF-T615 the past few days.

12/20/14
1060 kHz  XERDO, Reynosa, Tamps., Mexico, 7 kW @ 1182 km/735 mi.  Heard at 1204 UTC with musica grupo and frequent “Radio Raza” ID with an occasional “XERDO”.  Faded out under CKMX after 1313.

12/23/14
1060 kHz  KXPL, El Paso TX USA, 10 kW @ 978 km/608 mi.  Heard from 1317 with musica  and occasional “Radio El Paso - Juarez “ and “KXPL-AM” ID.  Audible until 1332 sign-on of KIJN.

Total ULR stations are 1047 (1034 barefoot).

Happy Christmas and good DX.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.



Re: Stormeise ferrite Rech?- most directional ferrite

josephrot
 

RE: <<  Stormwise sells pre wound 6.5 inch ferrite antennae for AM BCB  >>


Thank you for the heads-up kind person, but do you happen to have an Internet link or two that describe this apparent fine product and where / how to procure ?

 

Usually have a knack for web-searching to locate items, but this one does not seem to want to jump out at me...

 

Joe Rotello / Knoxville, TN / USA


Re: New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio - Tom's YouTube Report

policow6@...
 

On the antenna jack, when I initially tested it with my Wellbrook ALA330S during the day time I found exactly the same thing, but I would not say signals were reduced to "Zero"...they are merely attenuated. At night the radio overloaded using this method but pushing the plug all the way in cleared things up.


I therefore think they have the proper amount of attenuation built into the Aux Ant jack for the SW sensitivity of this radio.


Also I find its AM sensitivity much better than the G3...it's as good on AM as the E5/G5 were which the G3 never matched. I don't believe it is a rebadged G3...there are too many differences.


I agree the muting sucks.


But this radio has many pros and cons,..I'll be posting a full review soon.


Jay

http://radiojayallen.com


Re: Rech?- most directional ferrite

Rik
 

Stormwise sells pre wound 6.5 inch ferrite antennae for AM BCB. I thought of buying 4 and series parelel conecting them to one cap. I would have to experiment, but I thought I'd place one pair next to each other on each side about a foot apart. It would be a little pricey, but I don't have full use of my hands to wind my own coils. Anyway I decided to upgrade to a better isolation transformer this month  to block more noise in my house wiring.
 After I had my 'bright' idea I did find some one on line who wound two ferrite spaced apart like that and connected them to a single cap. They liked the result, but of course all experimenters favor there own projects. I got the idea because my Q-stick works along side an internal radio ferrite and also end to end with an internal radio ferrite antenna. So I am guessing each pair would help the one close to it and the wider stance of the other pair might make it more directional, that is, have a narrower beam for separating AM stations on the same frequency and not too many degees apart in direction. It's just an idea I could actually experiment with. No idea if it would work. So I thought I'd ask here. Maybe next months project, maybe not. - FARMERIK


Extra Comment... Re: New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio

josephrot
 

RE: << New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio >>


And yes, I happened to see one down in Atlanta GA this weekend, yet Tom's Review is more worthy than my comments.


Joe Rotello / Knoxville, TN / USA


New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio - Tom's YouTube Report

josephrot
 

FYI for all...

Tom Stiles YouTube report and commentary on the new Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio.

I get the feeling that this small apparent Ultralight-sized one may be a dud, gravely in need of major designer / engineer attention...I really do.

Grin, no, no, NOT Tom being a dud... the @&#&  receiver.

Suggest watching in 720HD res video...

TRRS #0445 - New, New Eton Satellit Shortwave Radio

Joe Rotello / Knoxville, TN / USA


 


Re: Rech?- most directional ferrite

mediumwavedx
 

Interesting. It may be possible. You might try wiring them like the C Crane Twin Coil.

Bill


Try Something New This Winter!

Gary DeBock
 

Hello All,
 
One of the reasons why our Ultralightdx Yahoo group has had booming growth for over seven years is because we have accepted many diverse challenges... from the basic challenge of DXing with a simple pocket radio (which all of us share) all the way up to the challenge of developing 21st Century antennas (and discovering innovative DXing sites) to make pocket radios surprisingly effective in Transoceanic DXing results.
 
Not all of us have the ability or desire to develop breakthrough antennas or perform loopstick transplant operations, but when our late Co-Founder John Bryant was still with us he would constantly challenge each one of the Ultralightdx leaders (including me) to try something new-- either in antenna work, DXing accomplishments or volunteer service. Many of us (including me) even remember John "volunteering" us for certain Ultralight group responsibilities :-)                         
 
John was an ex-Professor of Architecture at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, and he had a natural teaching style familiar to all those who knew him. John was the one who introduced me to DU-DXing in 2008, teaching me all the basics of how to track down exotic South Pacific DX right in the middle of the worst possible season-- the dog days of summer. At the time it sounded like science fiction to me, and I thought that John might be "pulling my leg--" but he was absolutely right.                         
 
I don't have anywhere near the accomplishments or leadership ability that John had, but he and I did share a fascination with antennas-- especially monster antennas that could make Ultralight radios highly competitive in Transoceanic DXing. So, in the spirit of John Bryant, I would like to offer some links to articles that have inspired many Ultralight Radio DXers to really push the limits in antenna construction-- including one article that John and I wrote together. As I have shared with anyone willing to listen, I'm convinced that the future of our Ultralight Radio community is very bright-- and optimism and innovation will win out over pessimism and boredom every time. Sometime this winter, why not try something new to increase your Ultralight Radio DXing fun-- maybe a new Ultralight radio, a new antenna, a new band (FM, SW or Longwave) or Transoceanic DX reception? The future belongs to those of us who are excited about it-- one of the primary reasons why our Ultralight Radio Community has become one of the most vibrant segments of the AM-DXing community.                         
 
73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
Ultralight Radio Group Co-Founder
 
1)  E100 Slider Loopstick (September 2008)
Co-authored with John Bryant, this article explains how to replace the E100 stock loopstick with a far more effective 7.5" Slider loopstick. Many of these highly sensitive models are still in DXing service today
 
2)  PVC Loops-- The Low Cost Ticket to High DX Gain (August 2009)
Tired of expensive commercial antennas or pricey ferrite sleeve loops? This article will teach you how to build a dirt-cheap PVC air core loop with side sizes from 18 inches up to 9 feet... all of them (MW models) costing well under $100. The 9' monster size loop was used here to receive 7 Medium Wave TA's in 2009-2010.
 
3)  PL-360 Plug-in 7.5" Loopsticks  (June 2010)
Do you have a PL-360 model (with its plug-in antenna jack for AM and LW loopsticks)? This article will teach you how to replace the deaf midget loopstick with extremely effective 7.5" Medium Wave and Longwave plug-in replacements-- with no modification required to the radio at all. 25 of the MW and 5 of the LW plug-in loopsticks were made here and sent out to PL-360 owners-- many of which are still in use.
 
4)  7.5" Longwave Loopsticks  (June 2011)
Detailed technical article describing the challenge and success in developing 7.5" Longwave-optimized loopsticks for the Tecsun DSP Ultralights. Includes basic instructions for building your own 7.5" Longwave loopstick PL-380 model
 
5)  7" FSL Antenna-- Detailed "Heathkit-like" Construction Article (October 2011)
Build your own 7" Ferrite Sleeve Loop antenna at a cost of under $200. This detailed article has multiple Photoshop-enhanced instructional photos to guide you in creating a highly effective 7" FSL antenna
 
6)  5" FSL Antenna-- Detailed "Heathkit-like" Construction Article (March 2012)
Build your own 5" Ferrite Sleeve Loop antenna at a cost of under $100. This detailed article has multiple Photoshop-enhanced instructional photos to guide you in creating a highly effective 5" FSL antenna
 
7)  Supercharging the PL-380-- Detailed "Heathkit-like" Construction Article (October 2013)
Replace the midget stock loopstick in your Tecsun PL-380 with a far more effective 7.5" Medium Wave or Longwave loopstick transplant-- and enjoy a new level of DXing success. Multiple Photoshop-enhanced assembly photos to guide you in the process of creating your own highly sensitive DXing portable-- for under $100 in assembly parts.
 


PL606 beach logs..

Dan Sheedy <wpe6bvt@...>
 

Happy holidays from the beach..

here are a few of the better catches from Moonlight Beach, CA--mostly PL606 'barefoot' but a couple using the 6m X wire alli-clipped to the '606 whip..

5985 Myanma Radio (Yangon) 1455-1545+ 12-17 Dec. Burmese pop, W DJ, what sounds like "Myanma Radio" jingles, EG programme starts @ 1530 w/ chimes, "Good evening dear/our (?) listeners..this is Myanma Radio, 5985 kiloHertz, 51.3 Metres..", into news headlines/details, weather (partly cloudy in Naypyidaw on the 17th), review of main points & "that is the end of the news from Myanma Radio..", followed by PSAs for National Solidarity & children's health..poor-fair 'barefoot' & fair-decent w/ the X wire.

6095 KBC (via Nauen) 1438-1500 fade 13, 14, 20, 21 Dec. Very pleased to catch KBC's European shows the past 2 weekends--oldies (Elvis, Eagles, Hollies, Beatles, Richie Valens) mostly readable, but the DJs' chat was mostly imaginary thanks to severe ACI from KCBS-6100..this is one of the '6m X wire' logs--altho KBC is audible w/ just the whip, it's 'way too sketchy to get much detail (the narrow window for the receptions is also a factor..fade-in 1435 @ the earliest & just a happy memory by 1500).

6280 SOH 1430+ 20, 21 Dec. "Usual" CH news/chat //9200--& no CNR1 jammers on either QRG.

7200.1 Myanma Radio (Yangon) 1427-1500+ 12-17 Dec. Fair signal but QRhaM + rumbly het from (p) Libya after 1430..nice BU MoR songs w/ lots of trumpet/percussion, M/W DJs chatting w/ occ. Myanma mentions..sked to 1500*, but does run late on occasion (:05 16 Dec., :28 18 Dec.)

7570 VoK (Kujang) 1510+ 16 Dec. Pyongyang's EG broadcast w/ "news"/commentary // 11710..sounds somewhat similar in tone (& reliability) to Brother Stair who's on 7570 22-10 UT most days.

9460 CRI (Urumqi) 1429+ 21 Dec. "Roundtable" programme on Easy FM //13740..

11735 RTZ (Dole) *1456-1550+ 17-19 Dec. Opens w/ march (NA?), 3+1 pips, news, brief Qur'an recitations, listeners' calls & some very nice local music (taarab/mitindo are a couple kinds per a quick Wiki check), ad string @ :50 on the 19th & 1 w/ an EG tag "---The Right Choice".

15140 RSO Missing 19, 20 Dec. @ 1415, 1510 checks, but, not to worry, heard 1504 21 Dec. during their AR programme.

15550 R. Tamazuj (via SMG) *1500+ 19 Dec. Opening @ sked time today, unlike the 18th when they goofed off until 1528..always a fine signal here & //13800 (Talata-Volonondry) but not in synch.

CFRX has been sliding in the past few days after 0600, which is nice (i'll do my best to get enough info for a reasonable rpt this coming week----or fall asleep trying)

Best wishes of the holiday season, happy Winter Solstice, & good listening to the ULR crew from  33'2" N 117'17" W.

Dan
WB6FJD



Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

m_a_schuster
 

I've always been a bit puzzled why your opinion of the AR-1733 is so much better than mine. Your statement that you own 3 of them prompts me to post again.

I ordered one from Australia months ago (it took a month to arrive in the US via "airmail") and after unboxing I went straight to the MW band. My first benchmark is a daytime fringe area station and I was astonished to find that it was barely audible with the volume set at maximum (even with headphones). It was so unexpected that I kept poring over the manual and menus to see if there was a DX/Local signal attenuator setting that I had missed and need to disable. No such luck. The AR1733 has been sitting, in the box on the shelf, ever since.

Strangely I had a remarkably similar experience with the first production run of the CCrane AM/FM pocket radio which also claims "DSP" functions. In that case the problem was a poorly designed AGC algorithm which, to their credit, CCrane fixed on the second production run and swapped a new one for me. I was so interested in the Skywave that I wrote to Ccrane and pointed out the deficiencies of the AR-1733. They assured me that they were well aware of those issues and that the Syywave's circuit design was completely redesigned to address such performance issues.

I now have the Skywave and compared them side by side. The difference in this area is truly like night and day.


Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

microcode@...
 

I thought I posted a link in that post also but I don't keep old mails. Just
in case, it should be

stores.ebay.com/anonco

and I am a happy customer no other relationship. Their service is excellent.


On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:44:11AM +0000, microcode@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
If you were referring to my post I believe I wrote $80 plus shipping (IOW
not including shipping) this was to compare with Gary's price point for the
Skywave at $89.95 + shipping.

Anon Co is now selling them for $85 + shipping and shipping here is 29 bucks
according to ebay...YMMV. Aliexpress often has specials with great prices
and free shipping but it's often a PITA dealing with Aliexpress vendors
because of language barrier, slow handling, slow boat from China shipping,
etc. I would recommend Anon Co for the extra 5 bucks.


On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 03:29:40AM -0800, policow6@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
Where did you get a PL-660 for $80 delivered? I just did a search and couldn't find it for less than $128. There was one eBay link that showed it at about $80 but when I clicked that link it turned out to be a PL-600...not a 660.


Jay
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Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

microcode@...
 

If you were referring to my post I believe I wrote $80 plus shipping (IOW
not including shipping) this was to compare with Gary's price point for the
Skywave at $89.95 + shipping.

Anon Co is now selling them for $85 + shipping and shipping here is 29 bucks
according to ebay...YMMV. Aliexpress often has specials with great prices
and free shipping but it's often a PITA dealing with Aliexpress vendors
because of language barrier, slow handling, slow boat from China shipping,
etc. I would recommend Anon Co for the extra 5 bucks.


On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 03:29:40AM -0800, policow6@... [ultralightdx] wrote:
Where did you get a PL-660 for $80 delivered? I just did a search and couldn't find it for less than $128. There was one eBay link that showed it at about $80 but when I clicked that link it turned out to be a PL-600...not a 660.


Jay
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Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

policow6@...
 

Where did you get a PL-660 for $80 delivered? I just did a search and couldn't find it for less than $128. There was one eBay link that showed it at about $80 but when I clicked that link it turned out to be a PL-600...not a 660.


Jay


Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

Paul Blundell
 

I am a big fan of the AR1733, I have had three now and love them. Following on from my previous MOD attachment for LEGO Technic set 42030 I have just finished my next attachment, a grabbing claw.

This attachment is normally used in forestry type work but can also be used for general lifting and loading. I spent about 5 hours over a few days working on this, the most amount of time was on testing the claw to get the opening and closing working correctly. I have used the same mounting points as the standard bucket and my other attachment which can be easily swapped over as needed.

A photo: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UFhMN8kc3TQ/VJZGjpXdPPI/AAAAAAAAFL4/O9kydX9A1Ds/s1600/42030_GrabbingCLaw_Dec2014%2B(1).JPG

A Video and more photos: Pauls Technic: LEGO Technic 42030 - MOD Grabbing Claw

 


Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

m_a_schuster
 

Gary, you're welcome to my AR-1733. Seriously.
After upgrading to the CC Skywave I have absolutely no use for it.



---In ultralightdx@..., <D1028Gary@...> wrote :

Thanks Marc,
 
I have set up a purchasing account at Jaycar Electronics, and plan to place an order for at least one AR-1733 radio. Thanks for your help!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Coevoet sintsixtus@... [ultralightdx] <ultralightdx@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sat, Dec 20, 2014 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

 
Op 20-12-14 om 04:19 schreef D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]:
> Hi Marc,
> In order to investigate the model, I'll see if I can track
> down an Australian seller willing to export a Digitech AR-1733 radio to
> the USA.

Hi Gary,

I bought my sample from here:

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1733

I bought it together with this small unit:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1738
(probably silabs for fm).

Marc

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Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Gary, I ordered my AR-1733 via jaycar.co.uk and it was mailed from Australia
without a problem, so hopefully the US would be no problem.

Michael

----- Original Message -----

Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW
. . .
Actually Paul Blundell of Launceston, Tasmania (in Australia) has already written a very favorable
review of the Digitech AR-1733, and posted in in our Ultralightdx message system at
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ultralightdx/conversations/topics/20048
. . .
I'll see if I can track down an Australian seller willing to export a Digitech AR-1733 radio to the
USA.

Gary DeBock


Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

Gary DeBock
 

Thanks Marc,
 
I have set up a purchasing account at Jaycar Electronics, and plan to place an order for at least one AR-1733 radio. Thanks for your help!
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Coevoet sintsixtus@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Sat, Dec 20, 2014 12:56 am
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

 
Op 20-12-14 om 04:19 schreef D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]:
> Hi Marc,
> In order to investigate the model, I'll see if I can track
> down an Australian seller willing to export a Digitech AR-1733 radio to
> the USA.

Hi Gary,

I bought my sample from here:

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1733

I bought it together with this small unit:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1738
(probably silabs for fm).

Marc

--
The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.
What's on Shortwave guide: choose an hour, go!
http://shortwave dot tk
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Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

Marc Coevoet
 

Op 20-12-14 om 04:19 schreef D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]:
Hi Marc,
In order to investigate the model, I'll see if I can track
down an Australian seller willing to export a Digitech AR-1733 radio to
the USA.
Hi Gary,

I bought my sample from here:

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1733

I bought it together with this small unit:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AR1738
(probably silabs for fm).


Marc

--
The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.
What's on Shortwave guide: choose an hour, go!
http://shortwave dot tk
700+ Radio Stations on SW http://swstations dot tk
300+ languages on SW http://radiolanguages dot tk


Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Marc,
 
Thanks for the link photo of the AR-1733. It seems that many different companies have rebranded these radios, which are almost certainly made by the Redsun Company in China.
 
Actually Paul Blundell of Launceston, Tasmania (in Australia) has already written a very favorable review of the Digitech AR-1733, and posted in in our Ultralightdx message system at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ultralightdx/conversations/topics/20048 
 
Paul states that the narrow DSP bandwidth works very well on MW, which sounds like the performance of the C.Crane Skywave in the 1 kHz DSP setting. In order to investigate the model, I'll see if I can track down an Australian seller willing to export a Digitech AR-1733 radio to the USA.
 
73 and Thanks,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 
   
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Coevoet sintsixtus@... [ultralightdx]
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Fri, Dec 19, 2014 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: C.Crane Skywave Ultralight Radio-- First Impressions on MW

 
Op 19-12-14 om 23:39 schreef D1028Gary@... [ultralightdx]:
> Hi Guy,
> Thanks very much for the useful link to the Elpa ER-C57WR's Owner's
> Manual.

Hello,

This Elpa looks like the AR 1733

http://www.jaycar.com.au/ShowLargephoto.asp?id=16316&PRODNAME=PLL%20World%20Band%20Radio&IMAGE=

This ar 1733 has a "strange" feature: on sw, it will whistle when the
antenna is bend close to the ferrite ...

Marc

--
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What's on Shortwave guide: choose an hour, go!
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