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Re: Eton E100 "Equivalent"

Brett Saylor <bds2@...>
 


Re: A liitle OT: suggestion for antenna shielding

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Very interesting, Huelbe.... and not off topic at all!

Thanks!

John B.







At 07:36 PM 4/30/2008 -0300, you wrote:

Hello,
 
there are a few sources relating the pros and cons of using a shield over the loop antenna.
 
However, some time ago I found an original way to shield a ferrite loop, it was made by PA2OHH Onno for his Navtex (518KHz) receiver: http://home.hetnet.nl/~pa2ohh/07fer.htm
 
Onno used a flat, multi-wire cable (like those used with hard-disks) to build the shield.
 
Perhaps one can make a try in an ultra-light or not-so-light receiver :)
 
73,
 
Huelbe.















John B.
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased Array (pre-production version)


A liitle OT: suggestion for antenna shielding

huelbe_garcia@...
 

Hello,
 
there are a few sources relating the pros and cons of using a shield over the loop antenna.
 
However, some time ago I found an original way to shield a ferrite loop, it was made by PA2OHH Onno for his Navtex (518KHz) receiver: http://home.hetnet.nl/~pa2ohh/07fer.htm
 
Onno used a flat, multi-wire cable (like those used with hard-disks) to build the shield.
 
Perhaps one can make a try in an ultra-light or not-so-light receiver :)
 
73,
 
Huelbe.


Final National SRF-39 Photo

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 


I couldn't resist sharing one of the photos that I took yesterday of the final National SRF-39 in its cabinet and with its companion speaker system cabinet. The sound system is a small 2 x 5 watt stereo amp from canakits  (canakit.com) that cost under $35 assembled. It runs on 12VDC.  The back panel of the audio box has an audio out for two larger outboard speakers and a switch to choose between the outboard speakers or the four little speakers (2x2) in the front panel of the box. Thanks to canakits, the front panel has two input ports (hi and low impedance) as well as the volume pots for each channel and a power switch. Instead of putting both the radio and the speaker system in the same box, I opted for this route because I didnot have enough scrap wood for the larger cabinet and, this way, I can leave the speaker box in the NW, since my only use for this set in Oklahoma is DXing.





The ports for the four speakers were determined by the size of the little tweeters and mid-range units that were salvaged from the iPod audio dock that I salvaged. I kind of like the appearance of the speaker unit as it is very like some of the amps and receivers from the mid-1920s, when you had to watch the brightness of the tube filaments as you adjusted the controls. In any case, the speaker box will look good in my shelves, whether it is being driven by the National SRF-39 or by my mp3 player.

I'll be submitting an article this week, I hope.

And before either Nick or Guy can say it, YES, its great to be retired... the only problem with it is being OLD!




John B.
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA + flocka Ultralights.
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased Array (pre-production version)
PS.... I win the award for the heaviest Ultralight, hands down. The cabinets are 3/4" walnut!


Re: Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

That was a good spot, as usual, Guy.... Despite the poor review, I ordered one.... I've been wanting to learn about substituting filters.... and VERY inexpensive for a digitally dialed radio... Time will tell.

John B.






At 04:23 AM 4/27/2008 +0000, you wrote:

For those interested, the E100's replacement, the E1100, is available
in a Tecsun-badged version from Ebay seller "Trinityforevertrading".
The price is $12.99 with $13.00 shipping from Hong Kong.

Check out auction #250238926506 for an example of one of this
seller's auctions for the DR-920. The auction says this model is the
same as the Grundig G1100, which is the same thing as the new Eton
E1100. The seller says "we have a lot in stock".

The price certainly is low enough to be painless, in case this model
turns out to be a dog! Perhaps we ULers will get lucky and find this
to be a nice model.

I wasn't aware that an ultralight is defined as less that 20 cubic
inches in mass, and with a single bandwidth, until John Bryant
pointed it out recently. This Tecsun/Eton/Grundig model fits both
requirements with a 15.19" cubic inches measurement, and a single
bandwidth.

73,

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com






Re: Congrats to Gary on the AUSSIE on the Sony T615........

C B
 

Gary,

I'd like to add my congrats as well. a DU on an
ultralight is phenomenal.

73

Craig Barnes
Wondervu, CO


--- D1028Gary@aol.com wrote:

Dennis, Rob and Allen,

Thank you all very much for your
congratulations on the 531-DU logging.
Unfortunately, the west coast DU experts all say
that there are at least
two good possible Australians on the frequency, and
even a New Zealand
possibility. Since there was no ID heard (only
repeated music, with no voice
breaks), the station will remain an "unID" until
somebody (hopefully me) receives it
again on an Ultralight, and hears a positive ID.

Actually, I'm quite happy to have shown that
Ultralight radios are
capable of breaking the "DU barrier." Sooner or
later one of the "Northwest
Gang" (or maybe a lucky DXer elsewhere) will have a
solid ID on an Australian,
and I'll be the first to congratulate him. Nick,
Guy, Dennis and Steve all
are very capable and experienced in DU DXing, and
all have a great chance to
hear the first Aussie ID on an Ultralight. John B.
is also coming back to
Washington, and is sure to try his luck. Good
luck, guys!



73, Gary



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Re: New Eton E100 Article Posted

C B
 

FYI,

Circuit City now has the Eton E5s on their website for
$99.99, with what appears to be a limited supply, at
least in the Denver area.

73

Craig Barnes
Wondervu, CO

--- Dennis Gibson <wb6tnb@cox.net> wrote:

Its big brother the E10 is excellent. At times Fry's
has sold refurbs
on their web site for $29.99. That's where I got
mine. It has a few
almost indistinguishable scratches on the display.
The IF shift
feature is really clever and makes it more like dual
conversion but it
is single conversion. At full price ($130.00) I
don't think it's a
good value because for $20.00 more you can get an
Eton/Grundig E5/G5,
which has SSB. The E10 does not.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "John H.
Bryant" <bjohnorcas@...>
wrote:



Gary DeBock and I have combined our efforts and
produced an
illustrated article that covers both disassembly
and alignment of the
Eton E100. Its replaced my recent disassembly-only
article on the
first page of the Ultralight files area of
dxer.ca.

I should also mention that an E100 just went for
$46.00 Friday night
on ebay (to one of us, I hope) and there are
several others available
on the auction site, too. If I remember, they
start at a slightly
higher price, but still at a real discount from
suggested retail
price. This wonderful little radio has been
discontinued by Eton, so
if you think that you would like to have one, NOW
IS THE TIME

John B. + Flocka Ultralights
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased
Array
(pre-production version)



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Re: Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

Guy Atkins
 

Hi Huelbe,
 
Well, that is disappointing. It sounds like Eton/Grundig is going backwards, if they are just rebadging a year and a half old radio.
 
However, perhaps the sensitivity is just a matter of inaccurate out-of-the-box alignment, and can be fixed by following some basic steps such as Gary DeBock has described. Even many of  the popular SRF-59 radios have not been well aligned from the factory.
 
Hopefully the selectivity can be remedied with a replacement filter, although it may be more effort than it is worth, on such an inexpensive radio.
 
BTW, the auction number I listed at first was wrong. The correct Ebay auction item number to check is: 370045350485. Or, you can just search for all auctions by "Trinityforevertrading".
 
73,
 
Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...]On Behalf Of huelbe_garcia@...
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:07 PM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

Hello Guy, friends.

When you said "DR-920" I immediatelly thought, "oh no!"

I have checked the site: DR-920 is physically the same G1100 receiver from
Grundig/Eton site. An search though Internet came a few pics of E1100,
identical to G1100.

About DR-920 I bought one about 1.5 years ago and now it's my dad's radio
:). It's full analog, has a frequency meter and clock. It's not PLL/DDS. Its
sensitivity is weak to poor, but its selectivity is horrible! You can listen
a strong station as far as 30 khz away from its nominal frequency. Still,
it's a nice gift for your dad who listens only to local hard-news stations
:)

So, assuming DR-920 = G1100 = E1100 (and I am confident they are the same
receiver), I don't think they are a replacement for E100.

Huelbe.
Brazil

.


CORRECTION: RE: Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

Guy Atkins
 

Sorry...I gave the wrong auction number. The correction one is:  370045350485
 
Guy
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...]On Behalf Of Guy Atkins
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:23 PM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

For those interested, the E100's replacement, the E1100, is available
in a Tecsun-badged version from Ebay seller "Trinityforevertrading".
The price is $12.99 with $13.00 shipping from Hong Kong.

Check out auction #250238926506 for an example of one of this
seller's auctions for the DR-920. The auction says this model is the
same as the Grundig G1100, which is the same thing as the new Eton
E1100. The seller says "we have a lot in stock".

 


Re: Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

huelbe_garcia@...
 

Hello Guy, friends.

When you said "DR-920" I immediatelly thought, "oh no!"

I have checked the site: DR-920 is physically the same G1100 receiver from
Grundig/Eton site. An search though Internet came a few pics of E1100,
identical to G1100.

About DR-920 I bought one about 1.5 years ago and now it's my dad's radio
:). It's full analog, has a frequency meter and clock. It's not PLL/DDS. Its
sensitivity is weak to poor, but its selectivity is horrible! You can listen
a strong station as far as 30 khz away from its nominal frequency. Still,
it's a nice gift for your dad who listens only to local hard-news stations
:)

So, assuming DR-920 = G1100 = E1100 (and I am confident they are the same
receiver), I don't think they are a replacement for E100.

Huelbe.
Brazil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Atkins" <dx@guyatkins.com>
To: <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:23 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap
on Ebay


For those interested, the E100's replacement, the E1100, is available
in a Tecsun-badged version from Ebay seller "Trinityforevertrading".
The price is $12.99 with $13.00 shipping from Hong Kong.

Check out auction #250238926506 for an example of one of this
seller's auctions for the DR-920. The auction says this model is the
same as the Grundig G1100, which is the same thing as the new Eton
E1100. The seller says "we have a lot in stock".

The price certainly is low enough to be painless, in case this model
turns out to be a dog! Perhaps we ULers will get lucky and find this
to be a nice model.

I wasn't aware that an ultralight is defined as less that 20 cubic
inches in mass, and with a single bandwidth, until John Bryant
pointed it out recently. This Tecsun/Eton/Grundig model fits both
requirements with a 15.19" cubic inches measurement, and a single
bandwidth.

73,

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com



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Tecsun DR-920 (aka Grundig G1100/Eton E1100) Cheap on Ebay

Guy Atkins
 

For those interested, the E100's replacement, the E1100, is available
in a Tecsun-badged version from Ebay seller "Trinityforevertrading".
The price is $12.99 with $13.00 shipping from Hong Kong.

Check out auction #250238926506 for an example of one of this
seller's auctions for the DR-920. The auction says this model is the
same as the Grundig G1100, which is the same thing as the new Eton
E1100. The seller says "we have a lot in stock".

The price certainly is low enough to be painless, in case this model
turns out to be a dog! Perhaps we ULers will get lucky and find this
to be a nice model.

I wasn't aware that an ultralight is defined as less that 20 cubic
inches in mass, and with a single bandwidth, until John Bryant
pointed it out recently. This Tecsun/Eton/Grundig model fits both
requirements with a 15.19" cubic inches measurement, and a single
bandwidth.

73,

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com


Re: New Eton E100 Article Posted

Dennis Gibson <wb6tnb@...>
 

Its big brother the E10 is excellent. At times Fry's has sold refurbs
on their web site for $29.99. That's where I got mine. It has a few
almost indistinguishable scratches on the display. The IF shift
feature is really clever and makes it more like dual conversion but it
is single conversion. At full price ($130.00) I don't think it's a
good value because for $20.00 more you can get an Eton/Grundig E5/G5,
which has SSB. The E10 does not.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "John H. Bryant" <bjohnorcas@...>
wrote:



Gary DeBock and I have combined our efforts and produced an
illustrated article that covers both disassembly and alignment of the
Eton E100. Its replaced my recent disassembly-only article on the
first page of the Ultralight files area of dxer.ca.

I should also mention that an E100 just went for $46.00 Friday night
on ebay (to one of us, I hope) and there are several others available
on the auction site, too. If I remember, they start at a slightly
higher price, but still at a real discount from suggested retail
price. This wonderful little radio has been discontinued by Eton, so
if you think that you would like to have one, NOW IS THE TIME

John B. + Flocka Ultralights
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased Array
(pre-production version)


Re: Eton E100 "Equivalent"

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Brett,

I'm the wrong person to ask.... Gary and the Technical Committee (Gil, Kevin S., Joe)  are the ones that rule on such. The E100- was actuaqlly just a cubic inch over the 20 cu./in. general size limit and has neither a switchable pre-amp nor switchable IF filters, either of which would tend to rule out a candidate radio....  So, the E100 is likely fairly unique.  The among things that have been on the market for a while.  The new E1100 hasn't ben tested or evaluated for inclusion in list of Ultralights.  It doesn't have direct 10-pushbutton frequency entry, but may be quite similar, otherwise.  I hope so.  It  retails for just $60 as opposed to the $100 pricetag for the E100.




At 01:30 PM 4/26/2008 -0400, you wrote:

John,

Given the dwindling supply, are there any "equivalent" current Grundig/Tecsun models that might also be contenders for this class of radio?

Brett Saylor


On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM, John H. Bryant < bjohnorcas@...> wrote:

I should also mention that an E100 just went for $46.00 Friday night
on ebay (to one of us, I hope) and there are several others available
on the auction site, too.  If I remember, they start at a slightly
higher price, but still at a real discount from suggested retail
price.  This wonderful little radio has been discontinued by Eton, so
if you think that you would like to have one, NOW IS THE TIME
















John B.
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased Array (pre-production version)


Laredo log

lrdheat
 

On my SRF-59:

Apr 26 12:50 am  KATH 910 KHz 500 watts Frisco, TX Religion 455 miles from Laredo, just within the null of KRIO McAllen, TX


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Re: New Eton E100 Article Posted

Brett Saylor <bds2@...>
 


New Eton E100 Article Posted

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Gary DeBock and I have combined our efforts and produced an illustrated article that covers both disassembly and alignment of the Eton E100. Its replaced my recent disassembly-only article on the first page of the Ultralight files area of dxer.ca.

I should also mention that an E100 just went for $46.00 Friday night on ebay (to one of us, I hope) and there are several others available on the auction site, too. If I remember, they start at a slightly higher price, but still at a real discount from suggested retail price. This wonderful little radio has been discontinued by Eton, so if you think that you would like to have one, NOW IS THE TIME

John B. + Flocka Ultralights
Stillwater, Oklahoma, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, NRD-535(kiwa-mods)
Antennas: 700' NE/SW mini-Bev, Wellbrook Phased Array (pre-production version)


Re: Laredo log

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Richard,

Great going with the SRF-59. The KCBS logging at 1500 miles with KTRH Houston and KRMG, Tulsa as QRM is particularly fine.  I imagine that Tulsa protects Houston and vice versa, so Tulsa might not have been much of a problem, but I bet that Houston was.

Keep up he good work.

John B.






At 07:26 PM 4/25/2008 -0700, you wrote:

On my SRF-59:

Apr 24 8:50 pm:  KTIB 640 KHz 1KW Thibodaux, LA.  543 miles from Laredo. Oldies
Apr 25 1:10 am:  KNBR 680 KHz 50KW San Francisco, CA. 1515 miles away. Post game SF
Apr 25 1:20 am:  KCBS 740 KHz 50KW San Francisco, CA 1485 miles away. Almost as loud and clear in the null of a loud and clear KTRH Houston. News.














Laredo log

lrdheat
 

On my SRF-59:

Apr 24 8:50 pm:  KTIB 640 KHz 1KW Thibodaux, LA.  543 miles from Laredo. Oldies
Apr 25 1:10 am:  KNBR 680 KHz 50KW San Francisco, CA. 1515 miles away. Post game SF
Apr 25 1:20 am:  KCBS 740 KHz 50KW San Francisco, CA 1485 miles away. Almost as loud and clear in the null of a loud and clear KTRH Houston. News.


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April 20 Grayland, WA Ultralight DXpedition

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Guys,
 
     Thanks to all who have commented on the unidentified 531-DU station heard on the SRF-T615 last Sunday at Grayland, Washington.  Actually, for a one-night DXpedition this late in the season, the total results on the stock Sony SRF-T615 were much better than expected.
 
     Checking into Room 10 of the Grayland Motel around 10:00PM, it was quickly apparent that this small room in the center of the building was far from an ideal DX location.  Loud TV heterodynes covered the band, and QRM from wild weekend parties covered the audio frequencies.  Serious consideration was given to taking some radios and a flashlight to the beach, prior to sunrise.  Attempts were made to get some rest before 3 AM (1000 UTC), but whenever sleep was near, the QRM from Rooms 9 and 11 suddenly increased in intensity. Right up until 1200 UTC, the TP carriers (in between the TV heterodynes) were very anemic.  738-Tahiti was nowhere near audio level.  It seemed like  the trip would be a lesson in humility.
 
     Suddenly around 3:15 AM (1015), everything seemed to change.  Rooms 9 and 11 suddenly went quiet, with no more TV heterodynes (or loud AF QRM).  The Japanese powerhouses (594, 693, 747, 774 and 828) suddenly boomed in like locals, with the Koreans (972 and 1566) following them.  Just before sunrise, VOA-1575 in Thailand made an appearance.  Despite the shaky start, the logbook was filling up with stock SRF-T615 TP receptions, and various mp3 recordings were made.  It turned out to be a very exciting and successful Dxpedition, even if the 531-DU station didn't ID, during the 5 minutes the SRF-T615 received it. 
 
     The final Ultralight TP log, all on the stock SRF-T615 was
:
531  UNID Looping DU direction, fair audio (repeated songs with no breaks), heard at 1308, gone by 1315 
594  JAPAN Tokyo JOAK strong Japanese talk 1245
693  JAPAN Tokyo JOAB fair with NHK program 1220
747  JAPAN Sapporo JOIB fair with Japanese talk in KXL-750 slop, 1122
774  JAPAN Akita JOUB extremely strong with Japanese talk and TIS signal, 1200
828  JAPAN Osaka JOBB weak audio at 1050, strong NHK program at 1215
972  S. KOREA Dangjin HLCA fading in shortly after the Japanese with Korean conversation, 1236
1566 S. KOREA Jeju HLAZ good signal with FEBC Japanese-language program, 1239 (mp3 recorded)
1575 THAILAND Ban Rasom VOA briefly fading in with Asian language program around sunrise, 1246
 
     Two ICF-2010's were used as "spotting receivers," one a stock unit, and one having a 19.5" transplanted loopstick.  The "monster 2010" was responsible for catching the DU opening at 1303 (with weak audio on both 531 and 612), when the stock unit had only weak carriers. 
 
                                                                                       73,  Gary DeBock 
       .
 
 
 
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Re: E100 may be On The Way OUT!

Dennis Gibson <wb6tnb@...>
 

Fry's isn't selling any E10's on their web site. I really didn't need
another radio but last November when they were selling them for $29.99
on their web site I couldn't resist. After that they raised the price
to $39.90, still a great deal. It was a refurb but not advertised as
such. That really didn't bother me; mine has a few very minor scratches.

I didn't think I'd ever buy a single conversion radio but the very
clever IF shift really works. I have a local on 1490 (one mile away)
and it moves the image from 580 (listenable station there) to 590 (no
signal there). Images of really strong SW stations are very weak;
definitely unexpected in a single conversion radio. SW reception is
excellent off the whip and it handles an indoor wire with no problems.
The wide filter is too wide but it makes for great fidelity on strong
stations.

A couple of oddities. What's with the antenna trim? Why is it needed?
Also the 1100mah AA NiMh (no, that's not a misprint) batteries. They
were .70 VDC upon arrival and the radio wouldn't charge them. There
are quite a few postings on Eton/Grundig Yahoo Groups from people who
had the same experience. I charged them outside the radio the first
time around and they've been fine ever since.

This might seem like an unfair comparison but I put it up against my
Kaito KA1103. The Kaito is a little more sensitive but the E10 is
pretty damn close.

I don't think the E10 is worth full price, which is $130.00. For
another $20.00 the Eton E5/Grundig G5 are supposedly as good as the
KA1103 (almost identical circuitry and both are built by Degen/Kaito)
and have SSB reception (the E10 doesn't).

The E10 has exceeded my expectations. The build quality is excellent.
I think it will replace the KA1103 as my travel radio.

73

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Atkins" <dx@...> wrote:

Don't forget the similar, but larger E10 model, which is a hot performer
also. It's size perhaps takes it out of UL status, yet it has a lot
of good
things going for it. The radio has TWO bandwidths, including a very
effective narrow filter (actually there are two narrow filters to choose
from in addition to wide...one is 455 kHz IF, so it's a candidate for a
mods). Factory refurbs of the E10 are selling for $29.99 at Fry's
stores (I
don't know if they are available on the Fry's Web site for that price).

73, Guy