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Re: A Tecsun R-2010D review

bbwrwy
 

My recommendation is to select one of the small DSP models. At 38.95 cubic inches,
the R-2010D does meet the definition of an ultralight receiver.

Richard.

Richard Allen
near Perry OK USA.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@...> wrote:

It's too bad Tecsun left out the switchable IF filters. Many of their small DSP models can select from 5 bandwidths, which is a very useful feature.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "farmerik" <farmerik@> wrote:

That is certainly not promising. I hope selectivity can be adjusted, and it was just not set up correctly on his particular radio. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@> wrote:

http://swling.com/blog/2013/06/a-review-of-the-tecsun-r-2010d-shortwave-radio/


Re: A Tecsun R-2010D review

Gary Kinsman
 

It's too bad Tecsun left out the switchable IF filters. Many of their small DSP models can select from 5 bandwidths, which is a very useful feature.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "farmerik" <farmerik@...> wrote:

That is certainly not promising. I hope selectivity can be adjusted, and it was just not set up correctly on his particular radio. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@> wrote:

http://swling.com/blog/2013/06/a-review-of-the-tecsun-r-2010d-shortwave-radio/


Re: Returned mail: User unknown

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

What does this mean?
Sent from an unknown user ???
I have been getting this daily !


Michael UK

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Re: Tecsun 2010D - Back to Basics

keith beesley
 

Yeah, I'm coming to the conclusion that the digital tuning/analog dial radios are (so far) designed more for the casual listener than the hard-core radio enthusiast. 

73s,

Keith B.
Seattle WA USA


From: Michael
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Tecsun 2010D - Back to Basics

 
The swling.com review answers my query re tuning increments.

So it does, indeed, appear that this receiver is not a good choice. Possibly because it is designed
primarily
for domestic listeners who would only wish to receive powerful stations, particuarly national
ones...

Michael
UK

--------------------swling.com review ---------------
Paul says:
June 24, 2013 at 11:11 pm
It is not clear from your review whether you can actually tune in between 10 kHz (MW) or 5 kHz (SW)
stations/broadcasts.
When you tune to say 5975, will the next station tuned be 5980, or can you fine tune to say 5977,
even though the digital display may still show 5975?

Thomas says:
June 24, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Tuning increments are only in 5 kHz steps on SW. This was a limitation with the other
mechanically-tuned SiLabs DSP chip.
Fortunately, you can chage between 9kHz/10kHz on MW and there are FM bands for Japan, Russia and the
rest of the world.

---------------------------------

----- Original Message ----- From: mkang
...
Jog wheel tunning & volume controls ...
...
The popular SW bands are well spread with 5kHz inclements, ...

--------------

Thanks for the update. We all, of course, now look forward to a detailed performance report!

It sounds as if tuning is either

a) 5kHz steps in the digital display, but with 1kHz fine-tuning between these display steps.
or
b) 5kHz "jumps" in tuning, matching 5kHz digital readout increments and no 1kHz tuning option;
the analog scales serving only as an approximating orientation aid.

MIchael




Re: Tecsun 2010D - Back to Basics

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

The swling.com review answers my query re tuning increments.

So it does, indeed, appear that this receiver is not a good choice. Possibly because it is designed
primarily
for domestic listeners who would only wish to receive powerful stations, particuarly national
ones...

Michael
UK

--------------------swling.com review ---------------
Paul says:
June 24, 2013 at 11:11 pm
It is not clear from your review whether you can actually tune in between 10 kHz (MW) or 5 kHz (SW)
stations/broadcasts.
When you tune to say 5975, will the next station tuned be 5980, or can you fine tune to say 5977,
even though the digital display may still show 5975?

Thomas says:
June 24, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Tuning increments are only in 5 kHz steps on SW. This was a limitation with the other
mechanically-tuned SiLabs DSP chip.
Fortunately, you can chage between 9kHz/10kHz on MW and there are FM bands for Japan, Russia and the
rest of the world.

---------------------------------

----- Original Message ----- From: mkang
...
Jog wheel tunning & volume controls ...
...
The popular SW bands are well spread with 5kHz inclements, ...

--------------

Thanks for the update. We all, of course, now look forward to a detailed performance report!

It sounds as if tuning is either

a) 5kHz steps in the digital display, but with 1kHz fine-tuning between these display steps.
or
b) 5kHz "jumps" in tuning, matching 5kHz digital readout increments and no 1kHz tuning option;
the analog scales serving only as an approximating orientation aid.

MIchael


Re: A Tecsun R-2010D review

Rik
 

That is certainly not promising. I hope selectivity can be adjusted, and it was just not set up correctly on his particular radio. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@...> wrote:

http://swling.com/blog/2013/06/a-review-of-the-tecsun-r-2010d-shortwave-radio/


Re: FM Log # 500

bbwrwy
 

Thank you for your congratulatory messages.

I do live in a good location for FM DX. On Saturday morning I was receiving station from east Texas, one was 518 km (322 mi) away. There are no mountains here to block signals and the air is sometimes moist enough for long distance propagaton. An example is the reception KSTP-FM and KLTK-FM, in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, at a distance of 1030 km (640 mi), via the tropospheric mode of propagation. The stations were heard in 2010 on a barefoot PL-310.

So far I've DXed the FM band between May and August since 2010 (completely missing 2011). The rest of the year I spend on the medium wave band.

I've also identified five stations from MI, NC and WI heard via meteor scatter. One of those stations was heard via E-skip for the first time yesterday, making it only the second station received by two modes of propagation.

Again, thank you and good DX.

Richard.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.


A Tecsun R-2010D review

Gary Kinsman
 


Re: FM Log # 500

Gary DeBock
 

Richard,
 
Congratulations on receiving FM station #500 on ultralight radios-- an amazing accomplishment. It's great that you live in such a favorable location for the chase, and can enjoy FM-DX on ultralights just when the AM-DX hits the summer skids.
 
Like Allen, I live in a coastal location where long range FM-DX doesn't seem to show up very often. During the summer AM-band doldrums, about the only exciting activity here is to storm the Oregon ocean cliffs with FSL's around sunrise, and make recordings of local-like Kiwi stations boosted by freakish cliff propagation.
 
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen
To: ultralightdx
Sent: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 11:40 am
Subject: [ultralightdx] RE: FM Log # 500

 


RE:
Yesterday during a skip I logged station #500 on an ultralight radio.

6/23/13
1524 UTC 92.1 MHz WLTQ-FM, Venice FL (1744 km/1084 mi) on a barefoot Tecsun PL-310ET receiceiver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Richard.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.

Richard,

Congrats on your success in Ultralight FM Dxing, That's quite a milestone you've attained using the Ultralight machines.

When I lived in Alberta in earlier years I managed to log over 500 FM stations from there but they were heard on much different receivers.

I keep listening here for FM skip but we don't seem to get much skip here or else I'm not in the right place at the right time for it.

Keep logging them

Allen Willie
Bristol's Hope, Newfoundland


Re: FM Log # 500

Allen Willie
 

RE:
Yesterday during a skip I logged station #500 on an ultralight radio.

6/23/13
1524 UTC 92.1 MHz WLTQ-FM, Venice FL (1744 km/1084 mi) on a barefoot Tecsun PL-310ET receiceiver.
Richard.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.


Richard,

Congrats on your success in Ultralight FM Dxing, That's quite a milestone you've attained using the Ultralight machines.

When I lived in Alberta in earlier years I managed to log over 500 FM stations from there but they were heard on much different receivers.

I keep listening here for FM skip but we don't seem to get much skip here or else I'm not in the right place at the right time for it.


Keep logging them



Allen Willie
Bristol's Hope, Newfoundland


Re: ULR FM station #500 & more.

keith beesley
 

Congratulations, Richard! Quite an accomplishment!
I don't have much luck with FM DX here in the cool, damp Northwest, but I'm trying. I usually get one or two every summer. 

73 and good DX,

Keith


From: RichardA
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: [ultralightdx] ULR FM station #500 & more.

 
Yesterday during a skip I logged station #500 on an ultralight radio.

6/23/13
1524 UTC 92.1 MHz WLTQ-FM, Venice FL (1744 km/1084 mi) on a barefoot Tecsun PL-310ET receiceiver.

Sporadic E propagation was outstanding yesterday, lasting over ten hours. By the end of the day my station count had risen to 513. All of the new stations logged during the skip were from Florida, North Carolina and South Carolina.

The Tecsun PL-310ET, -380 and -606 are excellent receivers for FM DXing. All feature ETM (Easy Tune Mode), which I find very useful for FM DX. Also, they can be set to tune from 64 to 108 MHz. At present this permits you to listen to TV sound from the disappearing analog stations in Canada and México. Or, if you are in Europe, listen to the OIRT band stations remaining within the former Soviet Bloc countries.

If you haven't tried ULR FM DXing, now is the best time of year. It's not unusual to hear stations from over 1600 kilometers or more during a skip. My longest reception was 89.3 CISM-FM, Montreal QC, at 2232 km/1387 miles, on 5/29/13, also on the PL-310ET (no external aerial attached).

Good DX.

Richard.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.




ULR FM station #500 & more.

bbwrwy
 

Yesterday during a skip I logged station #500 on an ultralight radio.

6/23/13
1524 UTC 92.1 MHz WLTQ-FM, Venice FL (1744 km/1084 mi) on a barefoot Tecsun PL-310ET receiceiver.

Sporadic E propagation was outstanding yesterday, lasting over ten hours. By the end of the day my station count had risen to 513. All of the new stations logged during the skip were from Florida, North Carolina and South Carolina.

The Tecsun PL-310ET, -380 and -606 are excellent receivers for FM DXing. All feature ETM (Easy Tune Mode), which I find very useful for FM DX. Also, they can be set to tune from 64 to 108 MHz. At present this permits you to listen to TV sound from the disappearing analog stations in Canada and México. Or, if you are in Europe, listen to the OIRT band stations remaining within the former Soviet Bloc countries.

If you haven't tried ULR FM DXing, now is the best time of year. It's not unusual to hear stations from over 1600 kilometers or more during a skip. My longest reception was 89.3 CISM-FM, Montreal QC, at 2232 km/1387 miles, on 5/29/13, also on the PL-310ET (no external aerial attached).

Good DX.

Richard.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.


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Re: Tecsun 2010D - Back to Basics

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

----- Original Message ----- From: mkang
...

Jog wheel tunning & volume controls ...

If's not wrong, it's the first Tecsun radio to feature both analog display and LCD panels.
...
The popular SW bands are well spread with 5kHz inclements, 800 kHz spread for 13, 22, 25, 31, 41 &
49 mBs and 900 Khz for 16 & 19 mBs.

Tecsun has re-engineered this portable with back to basics functionalities using the latest Si48XX
DSP chip.

It may not be full feature product like the PL660 but a viable value proposition based on price
offered and features provided.

It should appeal to any casual users who prefer akin to analog slider bar requency indicator, jog
wheel tuning and mimic LCD display panel beneath a wealth of moderm receiver technology.

--------------

Thanks for the update. We all, of course, now look forward to a detailed performance report!

It sounds as if tuning is either

a) 5kHz steps in the digital display, but with 1kHz fine-tuning between these display steps.
or
b) 5kHz "jumps" in tuning, matching 5kHz digital readout increments and no 1kHz tuning option;
the analog scales serving only as an approximating orientation aid.

MIchael


Tecsun 2010D - Back to Basics

mkang
 

Hi:

The radio arrived in a shrink bubble wrap with a soft cloth bag and a 2.4 m ear piece.

It's larger than thought about the size of 9700Dx, an earlier analog model also from Tecsun which is still available.

The interface is neatly laid out: large speaker grille with power switch & LCD dsiplay on top and tonal control & band selector on the bottom of frequency display panel.

Jog wheel tunning & volume controls on the right with socket inlets for antenna, line in ear buds and Dc USB on the left.

If's not wrong, it's the first Tecsun radio to feature both analog display and LCD panels.

The display is small, but sharp & vivid enough to include control information to operate the radio.

Tuning for FM & program listening on SW bands have been encouraging especially via headpiece provided. Rich bass and clear tone are obvious.

The popular SW bands are well spread with 5kHz inclements, 800 kHz spread for 13, 22, 25, 31, 41 & 49 mBs and 900 Khz for 16 & 19 mBs.

Tecsun has re-engineered this portable with back to basics functionalities using the latest Si48XX DSP chip.

It may not be full feature product like the PL660 but a viable value proposition based on price offered and features provided.

It should appeal to any casual users who prefer akin to analog slider bar requency indicator, jog wheel tuning and mimic LCD display panel beneath a wealth of moderm receiver technology.

73s
Mkang


Re: Video of Tecsun R-2010D Pro and Con

Vimal
 

Gary, you are right,
''Tecsun DSP radios have 1 kHz tuning. The PL-310, PL-380 and PL-390 ''
Well in that case I feel even R1210D should have this.Let's keep our fingers crossed and wait for some one to review it in this light.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:51 AM, gkinsman1 <gkinsman@...> wrote:
 



Joe,

Many other Tecsun DSP radios have 1 kHz tuning. The PL-310, PL-380 and PL-390 are just a few examples. It would be nice if all of them had a "soft mute defeat" button as well.

-Gary



--- In ultralightdx@..., "josephrot" wrote:
>
> Thank you for pointing us to the information, Vimal.
>
> One now wonders if sometimes, we hope that if we see new or newer receivers with the new Si or DSP chips in them, we still seem to have to settle for trade-offs.
>
> In the Tecsun 2010D, one such tradeoff appears to be the "missing" 1 kHz tuning steps that the more expensive Tecsun PL series have for example the PL-600 and PL-660.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In ultralightdx@..., Vimal wrote:
> >
> > This is one of the videos that are non impressive.A no for a good radio?
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:32 AM, texnote wrote:
> >
> > > Anon-co has posted a video showing FM, MW, and SW tuning on the R-2010D.
> > > Unfortunately it does look like it tunes in fixed increments of 5 or 10/9
> > > kHz:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyNTe4mb-MQ
>



Re: Video of Tecsun R-2010D Pro and Con

Gary Kinsman
 

It would still be nice to be able to turn off soft mute while tuned on frequency.

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "ferrite61" <dxrx@...> wrote:

Actually mis-tuning any of the Pl-series radios by 1 kHz will shut off the Soft Mute. By doing this part of the Automatic Gain Control effect is removed... therefore bump up the volume a notch or two. I would also keep the BandWidth setting at 3 kHz to minimize Carrier Wave loss. It works like a charm on my PL-310.

Paul S. in CT


--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@> wrote:

Joe,

Many other Tecsun DSP radios have 1 kHz tuning. The PL-310, PL-380 and PL-390 are just a few examples. It would be nice if all of them had a "soft mute defeat" button as well.

-Gary


Re: Video of Tecsun R-2010D Pro and Con

ferrite61 <dxrx@...>
 

Actually mis-tuning any of the Pl-series radios by 1 kHz will shut off the Soft Mute. By doing this part of the Automatic Gain Control effect is removed... therefore bump up the volume a notch or two. I would also keep the BandWidth setting at 3 kHz to minimize Carrier Wave loss. It works like a charm on my PL-310.

Paul S. in CT

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "gkinsman1" <gkinsman@...> wrote:



Joe,

Many other Tecsun DSP radios have 1 kHz tuning. The PL-310, PL-380 and PL-390 are just a few examples. It would be nice if all of them had a "soft mute defeat" button as well.

-Gary

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "josephrot" <joerotello@> wrote:

Thank you for pointing us to the information, Vimal.

One now wonders if sometimes, we hope that if we see new or newer receivers with the new Si or DSP chips in them, we still seem to have to settle for trade-offs.

In the Tecsun 2010D, one such tradeoff appears to be the "missing" 1 kHz tuning steps that the more expensive Tecsun PL series have for example the PL-600 and PL-660.

Joe

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, Vimal <sumanmed@> wrote:

This is one of the videos that are non impressive.A no for a good radio?

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:32 AM, texnote <texnote@> wrote:

Anon-co has posted a video showing FM, MW, and SW tuning on the R-2010D.
Unfortunately it does look like it tunes in fixed increments of 5 or 10/9
kHz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyNTe4mb-MQ


Re: Video of Tecsun R-2010D Pro and Con

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Does the DSP chip in any of these radios have an external pin
which could be accessed so as to disable the soft-mute function?

Michael UK

----- Original Message -----

Many other Tecsun DSP radios have 1 kHz tuning.
The PL-310, PL-380 and PL-390 are just a few examples.
It would be nice if all of them had a "soft mute defeat" button as well.

Gary

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