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Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design

Phil Pasteur
 

Well, I am striking out on finding the Funnoodle Monster swimming aid. It seems that it is the wrong season to find them in my area. I called no fewer than 8 local Walmart, Target, and Ace Hardware stores that claim that they carry them. All were sold out and probably will not get any until next spring. Even Amazon lists them as not available.

I wrote Gary off list to see if he may have a length sufficient for a couple of FSLs that he could sell me. I thought I would throw that out to the list as well.

I would be happy to pay whatever the seller thingthe material is worht plus shipping and something for the time required to get it done. Please contact me off list.

Alternatively, If anyone knows where I could buy one of the Funnoodle Monsters online, pleae let me know.

Thanks all,

Phil

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:

Phil,

The "Funnoodle" floating tube (actually a swimming aide for kids) is
the inner core material used for all my FSL's, and provides the perfect
combination of resilience and stiffness, even for very heavy FSL's (up
to 25 pounds). It has a convenient hole through the middle, to exactly
fit a 3/4" diameter PVC pipe section for your FSL's horizontal hanging
frame. A photo of the "Funnoodle" (and other FSL core materials) is
posted at http://www.mediafire.com/i/?sb60cm5c31e8tw4

The "Funnoodle" flolating tube is available here locally at both
Walmart and Fred Meyer stores, and costs only about $4 for a 6-foot
long tube. That should be long enough for you to make about 15 FSL's
with it :-)

73, Gary


Any interest in a USA Northeast DXpedition this fall?

gmosherat
 

I'm landlocked in western New York state and get so jealous when I read about all those TP @ TA loggings....

So, thinking about a ocean beach trip for a weekend or similar (Fri-Sun) dxpedition.

LW, MW, & SW, even non ultralight stuff ok with me.

I've got 1200 feet of wire for a BOG, a Quantum QX2, and a few experimental FSL's and Carload of radios.

Work commitments mean I have to do this during late September to late October timeframe.

Anyone interested in joining me?

dates, places and such still up in the air.

Regards,

Gregory


Any interest in a USA Northeast DXpedition this fall?

gmosherat
 

I'm landlocked in western New York state and get so jealous when I read about all those TP @ TA loggings....

So, thinking about a ocean beach trip for a weekend or similar (Fri-Sun) dxpedition.

LW, MW, & SW, even non ultralight stuff ok with me.

I've got 1200 feet of wire for a BOG, a Quantum QX2, and a few experimental FSL's and Carload of radios.

Work commitments mean I have to do this during late September to late October timeframe.

Anyone interested in joining me?

dates, places and such still up in the air.

Regards,

Gregory


Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Rik
 

I noticed the analog tuned DSP IC has Bass and Treble control functions. Might end up in a 'lunch box' size radio too? I would miss the Tropical SW bands, and LW would have been nice, but it still is very interesting. I spotted an other analog tuned IC with a digital reader output.
All these new IC's from SiLabs should bring out a whole new generation of very interesting portable radios!- FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Michael" <michael.setaazul@...> wrote:

Look at this array - and swoon !
Unfortuantely, I don�t think I could order 10.000 chips...

http://www.silabs.com/products/audiovideo/amfmreceivers/Pages/default.aspx

Michael UK

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--- In ultralightdx@..., "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@> wrote:

SiLab's datasheet for the new series "wheel tuned" DSP IC used in this
Tecsun radio has been available since about the first of the year. I don't
see anything on it that changes the AM or FM performance from the older
SiLab IC used in the current ULR DSP radios like the PL-380. And there is no
provision for LF reception. It seems to be optimized for low cost
mass-produced radios. And despite the nice "2010" name (remisniscent of the
good Sony 2010 receiver), there is no provision for an AM sync detector or
SSB.
Steve


Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Look at this array - and swoon !
Unfortuantely, I dont think I could order 10.000 chips...

http://www.silabs.com/products/audiovideo/amfmreceivers/Pages/default.aspx

Michael UK

----- Original
Message --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@...> wrote:

SiLab's datasheet for the new series "wheel tuned" DSP IC used in this
Tecsun radio has been available since about the first of the year. I don't
see anything on it that changes the AM or FM performance from the older
SiLab IC used in the current ULR DSP radios like the PL-380. And there is no
provision for LF reception. It seems to be optimized for low cost
mass-produced radios. And despite the nice "2010" name (remisniscent of the
good Sony 2010 receiver), there is no provision for an AM sync detector or
SSB.
Steve


Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Leo Barmaleo
 

SW band is somewhat truncated, starts from 5.6 MHz
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

 

SiLab's datasheet for the new series "wheel tuned" DSP IC used in this
Tecsun radio has been available since about the first of the year. I don't
see anything on it that changes the AM or FM performance from the older
SiLab IC used in the current ULR DSP radios like the PL-380. And there is no
provision for LF reception. It seems to be optimized for low cost
mass-produced radios. And despite the nice "2010" name (remisniscent of the
good Sony 2010 receiver), there is no provision for an AM sync detector or
SSB.
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" <michael.setaazul@...>
To: <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

> Oops! Yes, I meant R-2010. There is data on the web, as you
> link. I was wondering if it is available anywhere yet.
> I wonder why they chose "2010" :-)
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> Michael UK
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> Sent: 04 September 2011 15:27
> Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK
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> --- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" >>
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> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110124005766/en/Silicon-Labs-Cost-Saving-AMFMSW-Receiver-Solution-Tecsun
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Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Rik
 

At the SiLab website, I thought I saw some sort of development board for $50 each. That might be very interesting for the experimenters here. As noted no LW or SYNCH/SSB, but I would like it with large control knobs. Not sure if the board would tune continuous on SW, but it might be easier if it had the SW meter bands instead anyway.

The fact that SiLabs is talking about it again in late Aug is promising, but they might mention it again in 6 months more and still no R-2010 models to buy. FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@...> wrote:

SiLab's datasheet for the new series "wheel tuned" DSP IC used in this
Tecsun radio has been available since about the first of the year. I don't
see anything on it that changes the AM or FM performance from the older
SiLab IC used in the current ULR DSP radios like the PL-380. And there is no
provision for LF reception. It seems to be optimized for low cost
mass-produced radios. And despite the nice "2010" name (remisniscent of the
good Sony 2010 receiver), there is no provision for an AM sync detector or
SSB.
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" <michael.setaazul@...>
To: <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK


Oops! Yes, I meant R-2010. There is data on the web, as you
link. I was wondering if it is available anywhere yet.
I wonder why they chose "2010" :-)

Michael UK

----- Original Message -----

From: farmerik
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: 04 September 2011 15:27
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK


And quite recently here-

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110829005159/en/Silicon-Labs%E2%80%99-Broadcast-Audio-ICs-Streamline-Design

--- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" <farmerik@> wrote:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110124005766/en/Silicon-Labs-Cost-Saving-AMFMSW-Receiver-Solution-Tecsun



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Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Steve Ratzlaff <steveratz@...>
 

SiLab's datasheet for the new series "wheel tuned" DSP IC used in this Tecsun radio has been available since about the first of the year. I don't see anything on it that changes the AM or FM performance from the older SiLab IC used in the current ULR DSP radios like the PL-380. And there is no provision for LF reception. It seems to be optimized for low cost mass-produced radios. And despite the nice "2010" name (remisniscent of the good Sony 2010 receiver), there is no provision for an AM sync detector or SSB.
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" <michael.setaazul@...>
To: <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK


Oops! Yes, I meant R-2010. There is data on the web, as you
link. I was wondering if it is available anywhere yet.
I wonder why they chose "2010" :-)

Michael UK

----- Original Message -----

From: farmerik
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: 04 September 2011 15:27
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK


And quite recently here-

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110829005159/en/Silicon-Labs%E2%80%99-Broadcast-Audio-ICs-Streamline-Design

--- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" <farmerik@...> wrote:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110124005766/en/Silicon-Labs-Cost-Saving-AMFMSW-Receiver-Solution-Tecsun



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Yahoo! Groups Links





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Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Oops! Yes, I meant R-2010. There is data on the web, as you
link. I was wondering if it is available anywhere yet.
I wonder why they chose "2010" :-)

Michael UK

----- Original Message -----

From: farmerik
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: 04 September 2011 15:27
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK


And quite recently here-

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110829005159/en/Silicon-Labs%E2%80%99-Broadcast-Audio-ICs-Streamline-Design

--- In ultralightdx@..., "farmerik" <farmerik@...> wrote:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110124005766/en/Silicon-Labs-Cost-Saving-AMFMSW-Receiver-Solution-Tecsun



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Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Rik
 


TECSUN R-2010 link-FARMERIK

Rik
 


Re: My new ultralight

Rik
 

Did you mean the TECSUN R-2010? I have been looking for that. Bandspead SW bands, analog tuning, but DSP. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@..., "pe1etr" <pe1etr@...> wrote:



Any sightings of the Tecsun R-210?
No, I can't even find pics of it online!

Peter



----- Original Message -----

From: pe1etr

Last night I bought a new ultralight here in Shenzhen.
Strangely the local stores don't carry many ultralight models
(or larger radios), given that they are made a short distance from here :)


Re: My new ultralight

Peter 1956
 

Any sightings of the Tecsun R-210?
No, I can't even find pics of it online!

Peter



----- Original Message -----

From: pe1etr

Last night I bought a new ultralight here in Shenzhen.
Strangely the local stores don't carry many ultralight models
(or larger radios), given that they are made a short distance from here :)


Re: My new ultralight

Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
 

Any sightings of the Tecsun R-210?
I cant find dimensions, so it may not
qualify as a ul-rx, but it would be interesting
to know how the new Si4831 chip compares
with the antique Si4734...

Anybody know when it will be available
east and west of the pond?

Michael UK

----- Original Message -----

From: pe1etr

Last night I bought a new ultralight here in Shenzhen.
Strangely the local stores don't carry many ultralight models
(or larger radios), given that they are made a short distance from here :)


Saturday late log

patrice.privat
 

Hi

1575 radio Farda //1314 khz pop songs uae

1071 Unid middle Eastern

1035 Star FM belmonte POR

CHEERS


My new ultralight

Peter 1956
 

Hi all,

Last night I bought a new ultralight here in Shenzhen. Strangely the local stores don't carry many ultralight models (or larger radios), given that they are made a short distance from here :)

I had previously seen the Tecsun R-9012 and Tecsun R-911 side-by-side in a branch of a local electronics/electrical chain store, the 9012 was actually a few dollars cheaper than the R911, so I thopught I'd buy it soon! Anyway I went to another branch last night that only had the R-911. I found a similar rival chain nearby, and the R-911 was cheaper, so I bought it from the latter store.

The radio has a nice feel, and does indeed live up to its nulling reputation! I did a quick check yesterday at around 22:30 local on my 26th floor balcony (MW is difficult inside my building, but surprisingly good on the balcony, despite there being many towers close by). I was able to null some quite strong signals on the R-911, but unfortunately nothing much gets through from outside China here :(

I did get 666 PHL DZRH Valenzuela/Malanday 50kW on the Tecsun R-911 (freq confirmed by Eton G8). Most of the time on 666kHz I get India, but PHL was dominating last night.

I am waiting for the Arctic to fall into winter darknesss so I can try and get North America via the Great Circle shortest path over the Arctic. My East-facing balcony sticks out from the building, so I can get a clear view to the North. The South/South east has hills in the way blocking DU.

I put a photo of my all of my current portable radios (Sangean ATS-909, Tecsun CR-1000, Eton G8, Tecsun R-911 and Sony SRF-59 -the latter three being ultralights) in the Photo section, but for some reason I can't view photos on Yahoo Groups to check it is actually there!

Peter Wilson
Shenzhen, Guangdong


Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design

Phil Pasteur
 

Ok,
Thanks for the info. I got the variable cap, Litz, and ferrite rods all on order. Going to Walmart in search of a funnoodle. Will visit my local Home Depot to see about the rest of the pieces.

This should be interesting. I haven't wound a coil in 20 some years...
:)

Phil

--- In ultralightdx@..., D1028Gary@... wrote:

Phil,

The "Funnoodle" floating tube (actually a swimming aide for kids) is
the inner core material used for all my FSL's, and provides the perfect
combination of resilience and stiffness, even for very heavy FSL's (up
to 25 pounds). It has a convenient hole through the middle, to exactly
fit a 3/4" diameter PVC pipe section for your FSL's horizontal hanging
frame. A photo of the "Funnoodle" (and other FSL core materials) is
posted at http://www.mediafire.com/i/?sb60cm5c31e8tw4

The "Funnoodle" flolating tube is available here locally at both
Walmart and Fred Meyer stores, and costs only about $4 for a 6-foot
long tube. That should be long enough for you to make about 15 FSL's
with it :-)

73, Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: D1028Gary <D1028Gary@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design




Hi Phil,

The 7" FSL (designed for MW coverage) uses 20 turns of the 660/46 Litz
wire, and each turn takes 23" of wire. Ordering 45 feet of the Litz
wire should be more than sufficient, assuming that your padding
material does not make your FSL's final diameter much larger than my
model (just under 7"). Please note that my 7" (Affordable) FSL design
uses 660/46 Litz wire from the eBay seller "Mkmak222," and that all the
performance reports and MP3's were based on the use of that high
quality wire. Substitution of lower quality Litz wire may adversly
affect your FSL's performance.

Concerning the delayed completion of the 7.5" Longwave plug-in
loopsticks, I still do plan to complete construction of them all, as
time allows (there is an extreme shortage of free time here,
currently). That particular loopstick model requires both electronic
and power tool construction experience to complete, which is presumably
the reason why no other technician has volunteered to meet the surging
demand. Sorry for the delay, but your loopstick job has not been
forgotten, Phil.


storm report

patrice.privat
 

hiya

all devices unplugged, storm and thunder here NW of Paris
; perfect night for ultralight session, now going away ? let us switch on th portable PC;;

tonite's log

1395 TWR Filake,ALB in Hungarian before 1900 UTC then into Polish

1107 AFN Kaiserslautern D

963 China Radio via Pori,Finland, what a shame ! (in Czech, frankly who listens to that ?)

972 Buzz Asia London (more fun there, at least good hindi pop)

1575 bried spell of Oriental music under RAI (Farda UAE ?)

1368 Religious channel in English, unid ??

Cheers

Pat


Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design

Gary DeBock
 

Phil,

The "Funnoodle" floating tube (actually a swimming aide for kids) is
the inner core material used for all my FSL's, and provides the perfect
combination of resilience and stiffness, even for very heavy FSL's (up
to 25 pounds). It has a convenient hole through the middle, to exactly
fit a 3/4" diameter PVC pipe section for your FSL's horizontal hanging
frame. A photo of the "Funnoodle" (and other FSL core materials) is
posted at http://www.mediafire.com/i/?sb60cm5c31e8tw4

The "Funnoodle" flolating tube is available here locally at both
Walmart and Fred Meyer stores, and costs only about $4 for a 6-foot
long tube. That should be long enough for you to make about 15 FSL's
with it :-)

73, Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: D1028Gary <D1028Gary@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design




Hi Phil,

The 7" FSL (designed for MW coverage) uses 20 turns of the 660/46 Litz
wire, and each turn takes 23" of wire. Ordering 45 feet of the Litz
wire should be more than sufficient, assuming that your padding
material does not make your FSL's final diameter much larger than my
model (just under 7"). Please note that my 7" (Affordable) FSL design
uses 660/46 Litz wire from the eBay seller "Mkmak222," and that all the
performance reports and MP3's were based on the use of that high
quality wire. Substitution of lower quality Litz wire may adversly
affect your FSL's performance.

Concerning the delayed completion of the 7.5" Longwave plug-in
loopsticks, I still do plan to complete construction of them all, as
time allows (there is an extreme shortage of free time here,
currently). That particular loopstick model requires both electronic
and power tool construction experience to complete, which is presumably
the reason why no other technician has volunteered to meet the surging
demand. Sorry for the delay, but your loopstick job has not been
forgotten, Phil.

73, Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: ppasteur <ppasteur@q.com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 3:54 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design

Gary,
How much of the 660/46 Litz wire woiuld you estimat you used on the 7"
FSL.
I am putting together the parts to try my hand at building one. There
are also a few vendors on Ebay selling the wire, any recomendations, or
is there some other place I should be looking?

As to the "funnoodle" thing. Where the heck would one look for that?

BTW. I hope that I am still on your list for a longwave ferrite for the
PL-360..
:)

Phil


Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Phil,

The 7" FSL (designed for MW coverage) uses 20 turns of the 660/46 Litz
wire, and each turn takes 23" of wire. Ordering 45 feet of the Litz wire should be more than sufficient, assuming that your padding
material does not make your FSL's final diameter much larger than my
model (just under 7"). Please note that my 7" (Affordable) FSL design
uses 660/46 Litz wire from the eBay seller "Mkmak222," and that all the
performance reports and MP3's were based on the use of that high
quality wire. Substitution of lower quality Litz wire may adversly
affect your FSL's performance.

Concerning the delayed completion of the 7.5" Longwave plug-in
loopsticks, I still do plan to complete construction of them all, as
time allows (there is an extreme shortage of free time here,
currently). That particular loopstick model requires both electronic
and power tool construction experience to complete, which is presumably
the reason why no other technician has volunteered to meet the surging
demand. Sorry for the delay, but your loopstick job has not been
forgotten, Phil.

73, Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: ppasteur <ppasteur@q.com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 3:54 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Affordable (?) 7" Diameter FSL Design






Gary,
How much of the 660/46 Litz wire woiuld you estimat you used on the 7"
FSL.
I am putting together the parts to try my hand at building one. There
are also a few vendors on Ebay selling the wire, any recomendations, or
is there some other place I should be looking?

As to the "funnoodle" thing. Where the heck would one look for that?

BTW. I hope that I am still on your list for a longwave ferrite for the
PL-360..
:)

Phil

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