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Re: FM DX thumbnail?- FARMERIK
Peter Laws
n Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:24, farmerik <farmerik@cox.net> wrote:
I have stumbled across some relatively distant FM stations recently, and was wondering if some one here could write a brief paragraph outlining FM DXing, or give a link to an over view page. Nothing filled with detail or exotic antenna or modified radios, but some general idea on how far away is FM DX.http://www.spegweb.com/radiotv/ My friend and coworker, Doug KC5JUS, also of Norman, Okla, is an avid FM DXer and recently logged his 1000th FM station. He has a nice map at the link above. Basically, DX on FM comes from tropospheric ducting (the green dots on his map) or Sporadic E (the red dots). Lots of details beyond that, but others have pointed to websites that are more in-depth. I have no info on what he uses for an antenna (I should ask!). I'd really like to have him do a program at the local ham club meeting. :) -- Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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ULR DX....Beacons.......
On 12/02/2011 1:58 PM, D1028Gary@... wrote:
Thanks......Now up to 26 Beacons.....2 more logged this afternoon!! Well...it works...the signals aren't real strong but they are copyable. With beacons you don't need a Booming Signal to ID them. That's the other nice Thing about Beacon DXing....they ID every 2 Seconds!!! HAHAHA I was never much of a Hockey Player...in spite of growing up in the Land of Ice and Snow!! I am a Great Fan of the Montreal Canadiens (Habs) however. I was always a Baseball player growing up.....so I am quite good with a Bat!!! The Old Bat sure does vibrate when it comes into contact with the Puck though!!! I am anxiously awaiting my New Hockey Stick.........Like an 8 Year Old Pee Wee Hockey Player!!!
Yeah Gary.....I'm well aware!!!! HAHAHAHA...I have actually DX`d the NDB Longwave band since 1977.....except using a ULR to DX them is a whole new Ball Game.....'er I mean Hockey Game!! I have only been DXing Beacons on the ULR for about 36 Hours now ......(Maybe 2 Hours Total Listening).....and I have heard....... 26 beacons 3 States 2 Provinces And....I've added 4 NEW Beacons to my OVERALL Log as well............ Lord...what have you done????? Sure beats Shoveling Snow!!!! 73.................ROB VA3W Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA
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ULR DX.........BEACONS....2 More NEW Beacons this afternoon!!!
Hi Guys:
Just got finished shoveling snow out of 2 Driveways.....and needed to come in for a break!! I grabbed the Tecsun PL-380 and did a couple of Sweeps across the Longwave NDB Band. Logged 2 more New Beacons for the ULR Log...and one of these is NEW to the OVERALL LOG!! WOW!! I can't believe I have 4 New Ones to the Overall Log in less than 2 days!! These 2 Beacons were both heard between 1300 and 1330 EST........In Full Daylight!! RADIO USED.........................TECSUN PL-380 with Gary DeBock 7.5 Inch External MW Ferrite Antenna ULR BEACON LOG TOTALS are now.......................26 Beacons Heard ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 73.....ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA ****************************************************************************************** 278 ADG Adrian, MICH. Feb/12/11 1803 UTC ?? Power 162 Miles NEW BEACON to Both Logs 283 PT Pelee Island, ONT. Feb/12/11 1805 UTC 100 Watts 100 Miles NEW ULR Beacon (This is a small Island in Lake Erie just South of Leamington, ONTARIO) ******************************************************************************************
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Re: ULR DX....Beacons.......3 of these were NEW to the OVERALL LOG!!!!
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I'm happy that you are having fun chasing NDB beacons on longwave with the 7.5" MW loopstick PL-380,, and congratulations on your 24 loggings. I've known for quite a while that the MW plug-in loopsticks are reasonably competitive on LW (and far better than any stock ULR), and they are certainly the best option for those without LW antennas. But to be honest with you, it's kind of like a hockey player trying to score goals using a baseball bat. As long as he doesn't try using a real hockey stick he'll probably have a lot of fun, and never know what he's missing :-) Anyway, I'll plan to send you a "real hockey stick" soon!!! As both Kevin and I can assure you, it's all too easy to get drawn into the NDB orbit-- and once it happens, resistance is futile :-) I never planned to chase 100 NDB stations as a top priority, but got distracted by them during LW loopstick experimentation (because the LW-TP's weren't coming in). Now that I have 7 states, 6 provinces and 100 NDB's in the log, I'll be taking a slight break-- to wind more LW loopsticks for other DXers (maybe to get them addicted, too ??). 73, Gary
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From: Robert S.Ross VA3SW <va3sw@rogers.com> To: Ultralight List <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 7:19 am Subject: [ultralightdx] ULR DX....Beacons.......3 of these were NEW to the OVERALL LOG!!!! Hi Guys: I was just checking my OVERALL Beacon Log and I see that 3 of the 24 Beacons I logged on my First Day of "ULR" Beacon Dxing, are actually NEW BEACONS for my OVERALL LOG, which began way back in 1977. Although there were many LONG Stretches of Inactivity from 1977-2011 ......It's been Fun getting back at it again!! The 3 NEW Beacons bring the OVERALL LOG to 340 Beacons Heard. (24 ULR Beacons Heard) It will be interesting to see how many of the Previously logged Beacons I will be able to eventually hear with the ULRs????? For those who only DX "AM BCB"........you may consider giving this a Try!!! It's a little off the beaten track....but it is quite addictive......and you can hear some amazing DX with Minimal Effort. The other advantage of DXing Multiple Bands is that there is always something to hear!! When one band is Dead one of the others may be hopping!! Personally, I DX Everything from DC-Daylight. When the Spring gets here and the AM BCB starts to drop off for the summer.....I concentrate my Efforts on FM and TV. Throughout the last 35 years or so of DXing.......I have DX''d ..........AM-FM-TV-LW-UTILITY-HAM-SCANNER VHF-UHF-BEACONS and pretty much anything I can hear!! The Variety has helped to keep The DX Hobby FRESH!!!! Like they say.......... a change is as Good as a Rest!!! Retiring at the end of January has luckily left me with a little more time to devote to Dxing.......and I'm hoping to get back into DXing some of the Bands I have been a little Inactive on lately!! ( Like NDB BEACONS!!!) The Signals there are in CW Morse Code....but even if you're not good at copying Code....the IDs are VERY SLOW......and you should be able to pick out the IDs...even if you have to write the Dits and Dahs down as you hear them....and Translate them later. Thanks to Gary and Kevin for "Rattlin' My Chain" and getting me back i NDB BEACON DXing using my ULR!!! (At least I think I want to thank them!!) HAHAHHAHAHA!! Keep having FUN with ULRs Guys....... 73....ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA
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Re: Newfoundland Ultralight Radio Trans-Atlantics & Domestics Report Feb 10-11
MarkWA1ION
The 531 and 549 Algerians and the 621 Canaries station were very strong last night here, swamping the adjacent domestics on pretty much any radio tried. High end TA's were spotty, even on the Perseus + SuperLoop.
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--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Allen" <vo1_001_swl@...> wrote:
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720 without Greenland
MarkWA1ION
Besides Greenland and WGN, here are some other 720 kHz signals I have heard at various locations in eastern Massachusetts:
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VENEZUELA: YVQE, R. Oriente, Porlamar (common) CANARY ISLANDS: RNE R.5, Finca Espana (// 621) PORTUGAL: RDP Antena 1 synchros (// 666) GERMANY: Westdeutscher Rundfunk, Langenberg BRAZIL: R. Guaiba, ZYK276, Porto Alegre BRAZIL: R. Clube de Pernambuco, ZYI770, Recife COLOMBIA: HJAN At the coastal sites such as Granite Pier, there is nothing to prevent an ultralight from hearing any of these, especially in the early evening before WGN co-channel incursion and adjacent WOR slop / IBOC can build up. Mark Connelly, WA1ION Billerica, MA + South Yarmouth, MA, USA
--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Allen" <vo1_001_swl@...> wrote:
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Re: For Farmerik........Here's another Good FM Frequency List.......
Rik
Thanks - Those are good links. Anyone know of an FM list sorted more by region of the USA? States are small around Connecticut, and I could be getting stations from several. So far lists are all of USA or by state, and I would have to check several state lists. I am using an analog set with a whip right now, so I don't know the exact frequency or direction.
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I should build a MOXON antenna from the article in the files section. Is anyone here using one of those? - FARMERIK
--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Robert S.Ross VA3SW" <va3sw@...> wrote:
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For Farmerik........Here's another Good FM Frequency List.......
On 12/02/2011 12:36 PM, Robert S.Ross VA3SW wrote:
Here's another FM Frequency List which is maintained and Up to date!!!! http://www.w9wi.com/fm-channel-index.html 73........ROB VA3SW
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Re: FM DX thumbnail?- FARMERIK
On 12/02/2011 10:24 AM, farmerik wrote:
Hi Farmerik: Check out this Article on FM Propagation....it should tell you all you need to know to be an FM Dxer.......... 73....ROB VA3SW http://www.anarc.org/wtfda/propagation.htm
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Re: ULR DX....NDB BEACONS.....2 More New Beacon Logged last night...................
Kevin Schanilec
Hey Rob:
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Keep going! Next thing you know, you'll be outside in the cold in your back yard or at a picnic bench, straining to hear that next dit or dah... A more comfortable option may be to wind a quick box loop, say 24x24 inches with about 250-300 feet of wire on a cardboard box, and see how that works? 340-YY has been heard here on my full-size equipment (Icom R75, Ratzlaff 7 hz audio filter, etc.) - I hope/wonder if I'll hear it on the PL-380 at some point. Kevin
--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Robert S.Ross VA3SW" <va3sw@...> wrote:
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FM DX thumbnail?- FARMERIK
Rik
I have stumbled across some relatively distant FM stations recently, and was wondering if some one here could write a brief paragraph outlining FM DXing, or give a link to an over view page. Nothing filled with detail or exotic antenna or modified radios, but some general idea on how far away is FM DX.
I like the Radio Locater for AM, so I used that for these new finds on FM. - FARMERIK
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ULR DX....Beacons.......3 of these were NEW to the OVERALL LOG!!!!
Hi Guys:
I was just checking my OVERALL Beacon Log and I see that 3 of the 24 Beacons I logged on my First Day of "ULR" Beacon Dxing, are actually NEW BEACONS for my OVERALL LOG, which began way back in 1977. Although there were many LONG Stretches of Inactivity from 1977-2011 ......It's been Fun getting back at it again!! The 3 NEW Beacons bring the OVERALL LOG to 340 Beacons Heard. (24 ULR Beacons Heard) It will be interesting to see how many of the Previously logged Beacons I will be able to eventually hear with the ULRs????? For those who only DX "AM BCB"........you may consider giving this a Try!!! It's a little off the beaten track....but it is quite addictive......and you can hear some amazing DX with Minimal Effort. The other advantage of DXing Multiple Bands is that there is always something to hear!! When one band is Dead one of the others may be hopping!! Personally, I DX Everything from DC-Daylight. When the Spring gets here and the AM BCB starts to drop off for the summer.....I concentrate my Efforts on FM and TV. Throughout the last 35 years or so of DXing.......I have DX''d ..........AM-FM-TV-LW-UTILITY-HAM-SCANNER VHF-UHF-BEACONS and pretty much anything I can hear!! The Variety has helped to keep The DX Hobby FRESH!!!! Like they say.......... a change is as Good as a Rest!!! Retiring at the end of January has luckily left me with a little more time to devote to Dxing.......and I'm hoping to get back into DXing some of the Bands I have been a little Inactive on lately!! ( Like NDB BEACONS!!!) The Signals there are in CW Morse Code....but even if you're not good at copying Code....the IDs are VERY SLOW......and you should be able to pick out the IDs...even if you have to write the Dits and Dahs down as you hear them....and Translate them later. Thanks to Gary and Kevin for "Rattlin' My Chain" and getting me back i NDB BEACON DXing using my ULR!!! (At least I think I want to thank them!!) HAHAHHAHAHA!! Keep having FUN with ULRs Guys....... 73....ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA
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ULR DX....NDB BEACONS.....2 More New Beacon Logged last night...................
Hi Guys:
I'm not finding the LW Beacon Band real "Crowded" using my Tecsun PL-380.....but what I do find is that it really goes in Spurts! On some sweeps I hear next to nothing.....then on the next sweep I hear numerous stations......and they seem to come from the same Area quite often. Quite often there are 2-3 Stations from a 100 Mile Radius of each other. Conditions on this Band seem to CHANGE quickly and often. It still amazes me that these Beacons are being logged in my Basement Family Room, 6 Feet below Ground Level at Distances of 500-1000 Miles with powers of usually less than 100 Watts....and being heard with a Handheld ULR!! RADIO USED..........................TECSUN PL-380 ULR with Gary DeBock 7.5 Inch External MW Ferrite Antenna ULR BEACON LOG TOTALS are now........................24 Beacons Heard ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 73.........................ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA ************************************************************************************ 340 YY Mont Joli, QUEBEC Feb/12/11 0504 UTC 500 WATTS 736 MILES 332 QT Thunder Bay, ONT. Feb/12/11 0720 UTC 1000 WATTS 541 MILES ************************************************************************************
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Newfoundland Ultralight Radio Trans-Atlantics & Domestics Report Feb 11-12
Allen Willie
Hello To All,
Checking 720 khz last evening around sunset it was noticeable that Greenland was missing from the frequency or at least that's what it appeared . Later on , checking the frequency occasionally it seems that maybe they haven't quite pulled the switch on things just yet on AM . The signal reappeared off and on for stretches through the evening. It could be just a case of final tweaking to get things rolling on their FM feed, perhaps some of our comrades in Europe can shed more light on this for us. I did manage to log a couple of other stations on that frequency while Greenland was absent or at least not propagating our way. Logs last night 549-ALGERIA- Alger Chaine 1 , Hamadouche 2:46UT/12 Arabic talk and music (Very Good) 720-CYPRUS-BBC World Service Relay, Ladies Mile 21:55/11 tele-talk about Egypt situation in Arabic , mentions of BBC 720-GERMANY- (tentative )WDR2 – Langenberg 22:14/11 woman with news in German 1020-KDKA-Pittsburgh, PA 2:26/12 "Newsradio 1020-KDKA" ID,talk show(Very Good) 1044-MOROCCO-RTM Sebaa-Aioun 23:54UT/11 Arabic chants,talk 1100-WTAM-Cleveland, Ohio 00:01UT/12 "Newsradio 11-Hundred WTAM" ID,weather 1251-LIBYA-Voice of Africa,Tripoli 23:56UT/11 man in Arabic talk (Good) 1490-WERE-Cleveland Heights,Ohio 00:05UT/11 Newstalk 14-90 ID ment. Ohio ** This one is in the current ULR distance records for both the Grayeyarder barefoot and unlimited categories *** *** Check over your logs for graveyard stations as you may have a listing that may replace the one above in distance Receivers: SRF-M37V & SRF-39FP barefoot Good DX Allen Willie St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador 47:37N 52:45W http://nldxers.110.mb.com
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Re: A Final Farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial
Michael <michael.setaazul@...>
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From: "Tony Ward" Subject: A final farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial ......Much better to Europe than when Dave had the big farm though. .... ________________________________________________________ That reminded me : some may not know that the UK government plans to switch off AM (and FM except for community radio) sometime after 2015, once the DAB network is fully operational. There is some doubt as to how realistic this plan is, but anyone logging UK MW and LW stations has a few years yet to get their Olympic Gold... Michael
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Web Site Warning
Kirk <kirk74601@...>
I just wanted to warn the group about a trojan horse that's located on a website I just clicked into while searching for listings of Cuban radio stations. The website is:
www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147270-i91-k2369685-Radio_stations-Cuba.html I urge everyone not to go there! Fortunately my anti-virus software blocked the cyber-nasty before it did any damage. 73, Kirk Allen Ponca City, OK
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Re: New loggings 2/10 & 2/11.
Kirk <kirk74601@...>
--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "RichardA" <richarda@...> wrote:
Richard, Wow! Excellent loggings, my friend. I gotta get myself in gear and start hitting the dials more often. If only I didn't have that inconvenience of having to work for a living...ha ha. You continue to be one of those inspirational-type DX'ers for this old kid. Thanks! 73 to you, neighbor! Kirk Allen Ponca City, OK
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Re: A Final Farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial
On 11/02/2011 11:10 PM, Tony Ward wrote:
Tony....I knew there was another name I forgot to mention in my earlier post!!!!! YOU!!!!! HAHHAHAHHA.....I knew you'd remember Clarkie's DX Barn!!!! I used to LOVE going up there...I would drive up there on a Friday Night...DX all Night and early morning til after Sunsrise...then Drive home....a Good 4 Hours Plus round trip just to hook up to those wires!!! Dave Clark's getting a ULR???????? Now that's Funny Tony!!! HHAHHAHA.......Is he gonna hook it up to a 90 Meter Delta Loop 100 Feet off the Ground!!??? Tell me....has Dave still got all of his Radios????? Or did he unload everything when he became somewhat inactive?? John Fisher was telling me that you guys had Lunch a couple of months ago........ Hey....when you see Clark...say HELLO to him for me....and tell him I wish he still had the Antenna farm so I could come up and hook my T615 to it!!! That would be cool!! Maybe I'll see him when I pass through the Panama Canal in March on the Cruise??? Has he got a Part Time job working one of the Locks down there??? Man...some guys will do anything to be closer to the Bolivian Regionals eh???? HAHAHAHA....... No use You and Clark coming down here to perform VooDoo on me!!! It's too late I fear...Once you start DXing NDB's on a ULR.....there's no hope for you!! Who woulda thunk eh Tony??? Take a picture of Clark twiddlin' the Dials on a ULR......I gotta see that!!! HAHAHA. Maybe we can use his Photo on a ULR AWARD....maybe for the Master Indonesian Award!! Have Fun....and thanks for adding to the Memories Tony. Salute....ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London,Ontario CANADA
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Re: stock is a purists challenge
Hi Richard,
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Well, I can't think of anyone whose DXing hasn't helped in antenna experimentation more than you, Richard, both with the MW plug-in loopsticks (multiple TP's in Oklahoma), and LW plug-in loopsticks (multiple LW-TA's). Your efforts and success have made a huge difference, and are appreciated. As far as the current Barefoot/ Unlimited Class discussion, as you probably know, it's actually been going on for about 3 years in our ULR group. Both ULR Classes have different challenges, but we all use the same radios. We all have the freedom to choose our category, and compete accordingly. We've generally had great mutual respect between the two classes for 3 years, which is probably why our Ultralightdx group is one of the most enthusiastic segments of the AM-DXing hobby. Thanks again for your contributions to the effort, Richard, and please feel free to share your opinions at any time. 73, Gary
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From: RichardA <richarda@perryisp.net> To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:28 pm Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: stock is a purists challenge Gary: I didn't mean to sound as if I don't appreciate yours and the others efforts because I do. I have probably benefited more than most DXers because of them. But I feel we occasionally need to have this discourse in order to keep our unique hobby reined in. Richard. Richard Allen 36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W (near Perry OK USA
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Re: A Final Farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial
Tony Ward
Well I logged Greenland on 3815U almost exactly a year ago Rob, and heard it (detected it?) 2 days later again. Threw out about 500' of wire (BOG) to try and log Simuliaq on 720 with WGN phased in recent weeks, but wasn't successful. (I am not a purist, and don't, unfortunately, live in St John's Newfoundland) My SS Longpath from Whitby ON to Indonesia on 60 and 90 m was better than Dave Clark's but his morning shortpath was much better, though the sites are only about 40 miles apart. I can only throw longwires towards the east from about 345 deg around to 170 deg, but the Wellbrook K9AY helps a lot in Western directions. Detecting the big Asians on MW every morning during season, but not close to audio yet. Much better to Europe than when Dave had the big farm though. I got him a Tecsun 380 via Joyce and have a Terk loop here
for him awaiting his return from wherever he is hibernating for winter (Panama probably) , so he may get active with a ULR someday. John Fisher, Dave C and I did lunch here in December I think it was, and we are all active in our own ways. I am trying not to go over to the Dark Side and get into NDB's but .... If Dave gets back soon we will get in a car and come down and perform an intervention on you! Still a kick after all these years eh!? tonyward@... http://www.nyaa.ca Ah Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be ... From: Robert S.Ross VA3SW To: ultralightdx@... Cc: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:43:28 PM Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] A Final Farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial
On 11/02/2011 9:10 PM, John Cereghin wrote:
Yes John....A Country we'll never hear on AM. However.....I did Log Greenland back in the 1980's on SHORTWAVE...........on 3999 Mhz I think it was??? Not sure of the Frequecy without looking it up....I was on a DX-Pedition with the Ontario DX Association at Longford Mills, Ontario. I may have heard it once at Dave Clark's Antenna Farm in Newmarket Ontario as well.........Without looking back at the Logbooks...I can't remember (Old Age!!). Dave had a HUGE ANTENNA Farm......Full Sized Dipoles for 120, 90, 60 Meters. Delta Loops for the same Bands and Many Beverage Antennas. Also had MANY Top Notch Receivers of the Day....and all Antennas could be switched to ANY of the Receivers through an elaborate Antenna Switching System. Dave and Cedric Marshall ...also of the ODXA Constructed this Massive Antenna Farm to DX Indonesian Regionals, and other Exotic DX on the Shortwave Bands!! We heard some amazing stuff up at the Farm!! Man....I miss those Days!! We heard all the Low Power Japanese Regionals, Peruvian Low Powered Statons, Bolivians, Papua New Guinea Regionals, 2 Mhz Australians.......and other cool stuff. We would go up there in the Winter....and the shack was out in the DX Barn behind the house........it was heated...but just barely....with Electric heaters. I can remember Cedric DXing with a Collins R-388 TUBE Receiver, sitting in a Lawn Chair, with his entire Body in a Down Filled Sleeping Bag (And Cedric was about 6 Foot 7 ")!!!...........to keep from Freezing to death.........and Logging Indo Regionals on Grayline DX. Hey Kirk......some of this must be bringing back memories for you...and Guy Atkins too....if you are out there??? John Bryant would have remembered some of the Legendary DX that was logged at Dave Clark's DX ANTENNA FARM!! Man..........this is getting to me!!! DX Memories I'll never forget!! 73....ROB VA3SW Robert S. Ross London, Ontario CANADA
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