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A Final Farewell to Greenland on the AM Dial

Allen Willie
 

Hello To All,

Last evening will be a memorable one for both Dianne and myself as we were entertained with what would be, according to recent reports if correct, the last night of AM broadcasting from KNR Greenland, the National Broadcaster of the country

. With external speaker attached to the SRF-M37V barefoot we spent an hour or so listening to the varied programming that has been a part of Greenland's history for the past 50 years on the AM dial.

It's varied programs include Inuit /Danish type talk and news mixed with musical selections from Elvis to Shania Twain to Nat King Cole at times. Also heard are many native folk songs as well as gospel type programs on Sundays.

We are very fortunate to have had the chance to often hear the AM signals of Greenland but especially lucky to have heard it utilizing ultralight radios.

They have used 4 main AM frequencies , 570, 650, 720 and 900 khz. . The most easily heard frequency here is 720 although we have logged them on all but 900 at various times.

The exotic signal of Greenland has remained a very elusive catch to many DXers in other parts of North America over the years. Now that their programming will be moving to FM broadcast, the coming days and weeks will prove interesting as to what other stations will be audible on 720. WGN in Chicago is the second most common signal heard here on that frequency


Good DX

Allen Willie & Dianne Froude
St. John's,Newfoundland and Labrador
47:37N 52:45W
http://nldxers.100mb.com


stock is a purists challenge

Tim Davisson
 

Granted...in many hobbies...that that is stock/barebones and pure can be very subjective. I.E.: in QRP ham radio...how high/big is your antenna?

It's easy with ULR AM DXing: a stock radio is what it was when it came out of the box or off the dealer's shelf...and has not been modified in any way.

I read all the posts about the various modifications to DXers ULR radios with quite a bit of humor (no offense, guys).

Modifying ULR's to me, is like an athlete taking steriods. Yes, people do it...but, doing so really kinda changes the game.

My view on DXing "purity" cetrainly isn't everyone's....and that's fine. Just giving my 2-cents-worth for everyone's consideration.

There's something really cool about getting DX catches with a totally stock radio.

73's,

Tim, KD8GZ
near Akron, Ohio


Re: ULR DX...........NEW STATION Logged at SUNRISE Today...........500 Watter from OHIO!!

Tim Davisson
 

WNIO is now Fox Sports Net...and their end-fire array is heavily directional north (right at you)...so, nice catch!

Tim, KD8GZ
near Akron, Ohio

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Robert S.Ross VA3SW" <va3sw@...> wrote:

HI Guys:

Although Sunset Skip has been Tremendous since the beginning of
January........Sunrise Skip has been somewhat less spectacular. I am
usually up by 5 AM or so every day...and always tune around a little to
see what it is happening on the band, but lately pickings have been slim
in the mornings!! However, this morning I managed to squeeze out a NEW
ONE from OHIO, a 500 WATTER!!!!

RADIO USED is..................................SONY SRF-T615 ULR Barefoot
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ULR LOG TOTALS are now.................908 STATIONS Heard
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

73....................ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA

********************************************************************************
1390 WBLL Bellfontaine, OHIO Feb/10/11 0721 EST EE FAIR
Alone on the Frequency....no sign of Regular WNIO!!!
Male DJ with ID at Tune In as "WBLL" @ 0721 EST. 2 Males with Sports
Talk......
Basketball talk. Several ESPN and ESPN dot Com Mentions. Walmart Valentines
Day Ad @ 0727 EST. Faded out by 0728 EST.

NEW STATION ULR # 908 500 Watts/81 Watts
Nights
ROSS, ONT.
*********************************************************************************


ULR DX...BEACONS...OK..the last 3 NEW ONES for the Night!!!!............NEW STATE Michigan!

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

OK..this is it for tonight..gotta get a few hours sleep!!!

Tecsun PL-380 with DeBock 7.5 Inch Ferrite Rod External Antenna (Not made for Longwave!!)


338 DE Detroit (Madds), MICHIGAN Feb/11/11 0835 UTC 120 MILES (NEW STATE # 2)

398 ZHA Ancaster (Hamilton), ONT. Feb/11/11 0849 UTC 74 MILES

419 RYS Grosse Ile (Detroit), MICHIGAN Feb/11/11 0855 UTC 25 WATTS 120 MILES



ULR LOG TOTALS are Now.................14 Beacons Heard

2 Provinces (Ontario and Quebec)

2 States (Tennessee and Michigan)

73........ROB VA3SW

London, Ontario CANADA


ULR DX...BEACONS........Way to go guys!! Another 3 New Beacons Logged...and my 2nd Province!!!

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

Now you've done it Gary and Kevin!!!!!! I just went out and dug 3 More Beacons out of the Mud......and they were all from QUEBEC!!! That's Province # 2 Heard..........

Same Useless setup as the first batch of Loggings...and just as noisy...But these 3 made it through!!

366 YMW Maniwaki, QUEBEC Feb/11/11 0726 UTC 500 WATTS 351 MILES

378 RJ Roberval, QUEBEC Feb/11/11 0728 UTC 500 WATTS 579 MILES

392 ML Charlevoix, QUEBEC Feb/11/11 0729 UTC 500 WATTS 930 MILES



ULR BEACON TOTALS are now.............11 Beacons Logged

2 Provinces

1 State

73.......................ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


ULR DX.....BEACONS.....6 Beacons Logged in my Basement Family Room tonight!!!.................

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

OK...I promised Kevin that if I got over 900 AM Stations logged on ULR, I would do some Beacon DXing!!!! So, here it is!!!

I logged these 6 Beacons while sitting on my Couch in my Basement Family Room. (About 6 Feet BELOW GROUND LEVEL!!!) The TV was on and so were the Computers......and the Florescent Lights....so the Noise Level was horrible!! I'm surprised I heard any of these....especially the one from HUDSON'S BAY!!!!! WOW!!

Radio used was the Tecsun PL-380 with 7.5 Inch MEDIUM WAVE FERRITE ANTENNA that Gary DeBock made for me!! It's not a Plug In Antenna....it is Hardwired to the set. This is NOT a PROPER ANTENNA for LONGWAVE DX!!!!!

In spite of all these Negatives....I was able to hear some stuff........In a quiet Environment with a Proper Antenna....I should be able to do a lot better.

So Gary.....If you are listening out there???? HAHHAHAHA.......We are gonna have to talk!! Looks like if I'm going to join you guys in this Crazy Offshoot of ULR DXing....I'm going to need a RADIO and ANTENNA that will work!!! I haven't really been paying too much attention to what you and Kevin and the others are using...but whatever it is...I need one!!

So.......with the 2 other Beacons I logged just below 530 Khz a couple of years ago.....my ULR Beacon Log now stands at................

8 STATIONS HEARD

1 PROVINCE.......ONT.

1 STATE...............TENNESSEE

Here is a list of what I heard down in the Dungeon tonight.............

201 Khz ZXU London, ONT. Feb/11/11 0525 UTC LOCAL Beacon

375 Khz 7B St. Thomas, ONT. Feb/11/11 0529 UTC 25 WATTS 13 MILES

382 Khz XU London, ONT. Feb/11/11 0530 UTC 50 WATTS LOCAL Beacon

401 Khz YPO Peawanuk, ONT. Feb/11/11 0533 UTC 125 WATTS 834 MILES!! (Located on HUDSON'S BAY!!)

404 Khz ZR Sarnia, ONT. Feb/11/11 0533 UTC 50 WATTS 58 MILES

413 Khz YHD Dryden, ONT. Feb/11/11 0535 UTC 250 WATTS 728 MILES (Located in NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO!!)


Gary, Kevin.........I'm gonna crown you guys for getting me started on this!!!!! HAHHAHHAHA. Like I don't spend enough time playing with Radios already!!

Gary...I'll await your email on the possibilities of getting a Proper rig and antenna for NDB DXing!!!????

73...ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


Re: Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Kevin and All,

Good luck in your NDB chasing tomorrow morning, Kevin. One mistake in
my previous post was listing "239-M9," which really should have been
"240-M9."

For Kevin, Steve and anyone else fanatical enough to consider chasing
NDB's on Ultralight radios, my updated log of the 100 NDB's received on
the 7.5" LW plug-in loopstick PL-380 is posted at
http://www.mediafire.com/?m1c638xr51jj0at . These were received on the
"barefoot' modified PL-380, but as Kevin can imagine, I'm getting
seriously tempted to use the new 6.5' LW tuned passive loop to go after
"big game."

73 and Good DX,
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

-----Original Message-----
From: dhsatyadhana <dhsatyadhana@yahoo.com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 8:42 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

 
Thanks Gary - I have looked a few times for 200-UAB, and you list gives
me a couple leads for tomorrow morning.

Yeah, this NDB bug really bites hard :-) I stopped beaconing a couple
years ago because of the noise in my townhouse development, but now
that I have an easily portable set-up to get out to a quiet location,
it's just dits and dahs all over the place...

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hello Kevin and All,

Congratulations on the logging of 371-TVY, Kevin, and your 7th NDB
state-- glad to provide the tip.

This morning was one of the wildest NDB-DXing sessions ever
observed
here, with booming signals from almost any station to the north.
Besides distant Alaskan 233-ALJ (heard for the first time on the
"barefoot" 7.5" LW loopstick PL-380), 200-UAB (a very tough
logging
because of 200-YJ), 222-WY, 239-M9, 248-QH and 375-FS were
received for
new stations (and 2 new provinces, Yukon and NT). Tonight I was
able to
dig 2 more stations out of the "junk pile" from 290-325 kHz
(312-UNT
and 317-VC) to finally receive my 100th NDB station on the 7.5"
plug-in
loopstick PL-380. I've found that the "junk pile" really has a lot
of
NDB's hiding among the RTTY hash, and it provided most of my new
NDB
loggings during the past week.
&gt; It's very interesting that your NDB state and province count is
now
&gt; exactly the same as mine, Kevin. I'll be updating my NDB log to
include
the new Far North and "junk pile" NDB loggings, which together
gave me
enough to finally reach #100. For those of you considering this
new
kind of Ultralight DXing, be forewarned that once the NDB bug
"bites,"
it bites pretty hard :-)

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyalluip, WA, USA)

-----Original Message-----
From: dhsatyadhana <dhsatyadhana@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com&gt;
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:21 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

 
Having been to a local park in the mornings for DXing, it occurred
to
me that I have to pass the park on the way home, too! So, since I
got
back to the island around local sunset, I stopped off at the
picnic
table for another short session. As soon as the sun set, the
temperature really plummeted, but I did manage one more at 0200
UTC:

371- TVY, Tooele, UT (PL-380 w/Monster Stick)
New State (#7), #96 for the ULR LW log.

This was mixing it up with at least one other beacon on the
frequency.
I know that Gary, who is about 35 miles closer to Tooele as the
crow
flies, heard it a few days ago, so I was watching or it.

I did notice that, at least tonight, the DX didn't start until the
sun
had actually set, and perhaps a little afterwards, whereas on MW
it
usually starts up well before actual sunset.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


New loggings 2/10 & 2/11.

bbwrwy
 

I added four new stations to my log, all with a barefoot SRF-T615 (date & time UTC).

2-10-11
1250 KNEU, Roosevelt UT (0.5 kW) @ 1319 (#803).
1240 KDOK, Kilgore TX (1 kW) @ 1349 (#804).
2-11-11
1240 WBCF, Florence AL (1 kW) @ 0000 (#805).
1240 KLLV, Louisville KY (1 kW) @ 0000 (tentative)
1240 KVRC, Arkadelphia AR (1 kW) @ 0000 (re-log).
1240 KXYL, Brownwood TX (1 kW) @ 0018 (#806).

Not bad for the coldest day I can ever remember. My thermometer displayed -25°C/-°13F at breakfast time. Several record lows were recorded in Oklahoma this morning. But there is good news. Global Warming is forecast to return next week.

Good DX all.

Richard.

Richard Allen
36°22'51"N / 97°26'35"W
(near Perry OK USA)


Re: Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

Kevin Schanilec
 

... and congratulations on hitting 100 LW loggings! It's certainly harder to hit that mark on LW, and your Amidon modification really is doing the trick for you. At some point the big box loop might be the answer for more loggings, but for now I think that "smaller" antennas may still pull in quite a few new ones.


Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hello Kevin and All,

Congratulations on the logging of 371-TVY, Kevin, and your 7th NDB
state-- glad to provide the tip.

This morning was one of the wildest NDB-DXing sessions ever observed
here, with booming signals from almost any station to the north.
Besides distant Alaskan 233-ALJ (heard for the first time on the
"barefoot" 7.5" LW loopstick PL-380), 200-UAB (a very tough logging
because of 200-YJ), 222-WY, 239-M9, 248-QH and 375-FS were received for
new stations (and 2 new provinces, Yukon and NT). Tonight I was able to
dig 2 more stations out of the "junk pile" from 290-325 kHz (312-UNT
and 317-VC) to finally receive my 100th NDB station on the 7.5" plug-in
loopstick PL-380. I've found that the "junk pile" really has a lot of
NDB's hiding among the RTTY hash, and it provided most of my new NDB
loggings during the past week.

It's very interesting that your NDB state and province count is now
exactly the same as mine, Kevin. I'll be updating my NDB log to include
the new Far North and "junk pile" NDB loggings, which together gave me
enough to finally reach #100. For those of you considering this new
kind of Ultralight DXing, be forewarned that once the NDB bug "bites,"
it bites pretty hard :-)

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyalluip, WA, USA)

-----Original Message-----
From: dhsatyadhana <dhsatyadhana@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:21 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

 
Having been to a local park in the mornings for DXing, it occurred to
me that I have to pass the park on the way home, too! So, since I got
back to the island around local sunset, I stopped off at the picnic
table for another short session. As soon as the sun set, the
temperature really plummeted, but I did manage one more at 0200 UTC:

371- TVY, Tooele, UT (PL-380 w/Monster Stick)
New State (#7), #96 for the ULR LW log.

This was mixing it up with at least one other beacon on the frequency.
I know that Gary, who is about 35 miles closer to Tooele as the crow
flies, heard it a few days ago, so I was watching or it.

I did notice that, at least tonight, the DX didn't start until the sun
had actually set, and perhaps a little afterwards, whereas on MW it
usually starts up well before actual sunset.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

Kevin Schanilec
 

Thanks Gary - I have looked a few times for 200-UAB, and you list gives me a couple leads for tomorrow morning.

Yeah, this NDB bug really bites hard :-) I stopped beaconing a couple years ago because of the noise in my townhouse development, but now that I have an easily portable set-up to get out to a quiet location, it's just dits and dahs all over the place...

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, D1028Gary@... wrote:

Hello Kevin and All,

Congratulations on the logging of 371-TVY, Kevin, and your 7th NDB
state-- glad to provide the tip.

This morning was one of the wildest NDB-DXing sessions ever observed
here, with booming signals from almost any station to the north.
Besides distant Alaskan 233-ALJ (heard for the first time on the
"barefoot" 7.5" LW loopstick PL-380), 200-UAB (a very tough logging
because of 200-YJ), 222-WY, 239-M9, 248-QH and 375-FS were received for
new stations (and 2 new provinces, Yukon and NT). Tonight I was able to
dig 2 more stations out of the "junk pile" from 290-325 kHz (312-UNT
and 317-VC) to finally receive my 100th NDB station on the 7.5" plug-in
loopstick PL-380. I've found that the "junk pile" really has a lot of
NDB's hiding among the RTTY hash, and it provided most of my new NDB
loggings during the past week.

It's very interesting that your NDB state and province count is now
exactly the same as mine, Kevin. I'll be updating my NDB log to include
the new Far North and "junk pile" NDB loggings, which together gave me
enough to finally reach #100. For those of you considering this new
kind of Ultralight DXing, be forewarned that once the NDB bug "bites,"
it bites pretty hard :-)

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyalluip, WA, USA)

-----Original Message-----
From: dhsatyadhana <dhsatyadhana@...>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:21 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

 
Having been to a local park in the mornings for DXing, it occurred to
me that I have to pass the park on the way home, too! So, since I got
back to the island around local sunset, I stopped off at the picnic
table for another short session. As soon as the sun set, the
temperature really plummeted, but I did manage one more at 0200 UTC:

371- TVY, Tooele, UT (PL-380 w/Monster Stick)
New State (#7), #96 for the ULR LW log.

This was mixing it up with at least one other beacon on the frequency.
I know that Gary, who is about 35 miles closer to Tooele as the crow
flies, heard it a few days ago, so I was watching or it.

I did notice that, at least tonight, the DX didn't start until the sun
had actually set, and perhaps a little afterwards, whereas on MW it
usually starts up well before actual sunset.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

Gary DeBock
 

Hello Kevin and All,

Congratulations on the logging of 371-TVY, Kevin, and your 7th NDB
state-- glad to provide the tip.

This morning was one of the wildest NDB-DXing sessions ever observed
here, with booming signals from almost any station to the north.
Besides distant Alaskan 233-ALJ (heard for the first time on the
"barefoot" 7.5" LW loopstick PL-380), 200-UAB (a very tough logging
because of 200-YJ), 222-WY, 239-M9, 248-QH and 375-FS were received for
new stations (and 2 new provinces, Yukon and NT). Tonight I was able to
dig 2 more stations out of the "junk pile" from 290-325 kHz (312-UNT
and 317-VC) to finally receive my 100th NDB station on the 7.5" plug-in
loopstick PL-380. I've found that the "junk pile" really has a lot of
NDB's hiding among the RTTY hash, and it provided most of my new NDB
loggings during the past week.

It's very interesting that your NDB state and province count is now
exactly the same as mine, Kevin. I'll be updating my NDB log to include
the new Far North and "junk pile" NDB loggings, which together gave me
enough to finally reach #100. For those of you considering this new
kind of Ultralight DXing, be forewarned that once the NDB bug "bites,"
it bites pretty hard :-)

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyalluip, WA, USA)

-----Original Message-----
From: dhsatyadhana <dhsatyadhana@yahoo.com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:21 pm
Subject: [ultralightdx] Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

 
Having been to a local park in the mornings for DXing, it occurred to
me that I have to pass the park on the way home, too! So, since I got
back to the island around local sunset, I stopped off at the picnic
table for another short session. As soon as the sun set, the
temperature really plummeted, but I did manage one more at 0200 UTC:

371- TVY, Tooele, UT (PL-380 w/Monster Stick)
New State (#7), #96 for the ULR LW log.

This was mixing it up with at least one other beacon on the frequency.
I know that Gary, who is about 35 miles closer to Tooele as the crow
flies, heard it a few days ago, so I was watching or it.

I did notice that, at least tonight, the DX didn't start until the sun
had actually set, and perhaps a little afterwards, whereas on MW it
usually starts up well before actual sunset.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Afternoon Beaconing in NW Washington

Kevin Schanilec
 

Having been to a local park in the mornings for DXing, it occurred to me that I have to pass the park on the way home, too! So, since I got back to the island around local sunset, I stopped off at the picnic table for another short session. As soon as the sun set, the temperature really plummeted, but I did manage one more at 0200 UTC:

371- TVY, Tooele, UT (PL-380 w/Monster Stick)
New State (#7), #96 for the ULR LW log.

This was mixing it up with at least one other beacon on the frequency. I know that Gary, who is about 35 miles closer to Tooele as the crow flies, heard it a few days ago, so I was watching or it.

I did notice that, at least tonight, the DX didn't start until the sun had actually set, and perhaps a little afterwards, whereas on MW it usually starts up well before actual sunset.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: DXing Drought Concludes

ferrite61 <dxrx@...>
 

Its been a lot tougher since the hurricanes of 2008. I had what I considered to be a reliable listing of network/location prior. It seems the networks are now more dynamic, and the locations differ depending upon state of equipment. So now, I log them all as Havana at 10kW. If i catch a network ID I report it. There are some changes to the old listings on my homebrew DX log for sure.

Paul S. in CT

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk74601@...> wrote:



--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "ferrite61" <dxrx@> wrote:

Some further research yields the following:
970 CMHD Camaguay 10kW
970 CMAI Consolacion 1kW
970 XEMH Merida (NW Yucatan Pen.) 5kW

Best three found. The Mexican station J.I.C.

Paul S. in CT
Thanks, Paul. I have to be honest with the group, Cuba confuses the hell out of me. When there's listings of more than one Cuban sta on a given freq, how do we know which one to count, if any?? (Especially confusing when the stations are both listed running the same power!) I've had a long day, I better tackle this issue when I'm better rested, ha ha.

Tnx again, Paul!!

Kirk Allen
Ponca City, OK


Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way

Rik
 

Raph - I don't know why Stormwise made these antennas to need nearly 1000 pF to tune the whole AM BCB, but that is what they say.

I am using 2 sections [of about 384 pF each] on a cap from Crystal Radio Supply, which look like identical construction to the ones Stormwise sells, and it tuned about 60 % of the band.

If I get time, I may play with winding over the top of the PVC with enough turns to tune with a single section cap. I have both the vernier and non-vernier models to experiment with. I am glad to hear the excellent results you are having, so I will listen for ideas.
Thanks for experimenting and reporting your results. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Pollock,Raphael E" <rpollock@...> wrote:

Dear Farmerik: I am very disappointed at this result, as I am certain you are as well. The Stormwise source ferrite rods antennas that I have wound used 125 mu rather than 800 mu ferrite, although that should not explain the modest performance you are experiencing. There are other possible confounding factors.My primary pick up coils are made of 660/46 Litz wire. I do not know what type of wire is used in the Stormwise AM ferrite. Finally, my coils are placed in the center of the rod and are tight wound; I am not certain what is the coil situation in the Stormwise AM ferrite. More knowledgeable people like Kevin, Steve, or Gary might have better explanations.

I can tell you that in direct comparison tests versus my SAT, my CCRane twin coil, and my homebrew 3' x 3' air core box loop both my 19" 125 mu and 27" 125 mu knock the socks off the other antennas. The tuning is extremely sharp; without the verniers they would be darn near impossible to peak. Using my Sony 2010 with the RF gain set at mid point (slider switch on the side) and tuning to stations that at noon here in Houston will light up 1 of 10 LEDS, the SAT, when peaked, will typically light up 3 of 10 LEDS, the twin coil antenna comes in at 6-7 of 10, and either of my ferrites will light up 9-10 of the 10 LEDs when peaked. This extra gain has made a difference in reception of daytime long distance MW stations so it is not simply amplifying the noise floor of the receiver, as it were.

I wonder if the 800 pfd variable capacitor is the problem? Perhaps a 365 pfd variable capacitor, which is more what is typically used to cover the MW band (although I am no expert!), would give you sharper peaking when you tune the MW band?

Raph



________________________________
From: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com [ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of farmerik [farmerik@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:54 PM
To: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way



As far as the AM ferrite antenna I bought from Stormwise, it is not a big improvement on AM over a SAT or TERK aircores or Gary's 8 inch ferrite for the PL-360. It does not tune sharply either, so there is no need to use a cap with a vernier. Even the two section cap of nearly 800 pF is less touchy than resonating the TERK or SAT.
I hope you guys who wind your own coils on the Stormwise ferrite can get better results. It is easier to pack than a large air core though for mountain top picnics. It is pretty rugged too, inside the PVC pipe with the caps on both ends glued on. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>, "dhsatyadhana" <dhsatyadhana@> wrote:

Hi Raph:

The 800 mu permeability is still fine for resonating on MW, as far as I can tell. I have been comparing the 800 mu stick to my Q Stick, and the signal gain is substantially leap better on the Monster. The guy at Stormwise mentioned that to get max Q for the upper part of the band, the windings should be spaced out along the ferrite as much as possible: I will likely convert the "little" 18-inch ferrite to MW-only, in which case I can do just that. Both of our MW coils are close-spaced, which minimizes the amount of Litz wire one needs, but apparently Q suffers. So, you might want to try spacing out the coils on yours, using a longer length of Litz?

I am thinking that if I were to take it on a trip and try to carry it onto a plane, I would bring a copy of the construction article to show them what it is. I would have it in a mailing tube, and I would go to the post office at the airport and mail it back to myself rather than have them confiscate it. If I were to check it in a bag, I might use a stand-alone shipping tube of some sort, perhaps one made for a fishing rod, again with a copy of the construction article in there should they decide to check it out. Using a hard-sided suitcase, with the antenna put in diagonally, might also work.


Kevin


--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>, "Pollock,Raphael E" <rpollock@> wrote:

Hi Kevin!

Glad to see you becoming even more addicted to monster ferrites as well! I am wondering how well the 800 mu ferrites will work on MW as compared to the 125 mu--I don't know enough radio electronics to answer my own question. I also wonder about transporting the completed ferrite rod antennas. There is too much effort to make one of these things only to have it confiscated by Homeland Security at the airport, thinking that it might be a pipe bomb or some damn thing. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to take a chance of ferrite breakage by putting it in checked luggage...

Your thoughts, my friend?

Raph

From: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ultralightdx] An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way



Hi all:

I just got off the phone with Stormwise, intending to order another 18" "Monster" ferrite, since I have a few other ideas about what to do with them. As it turns out, they are available in 2" increments, so I special-ordered a 24" inch model of the 800u permeability type (Model VFR24J). I think they're all made to order, so it's just a matter of him telling the fabricator how long to make it.

He wasn't exactly sure of the price, likely $10 or so more than the 18" (which runs $33.75), but he'll let me know as soon as he gets a firm price on it. So, in about a week I should have an even larger Monster ferrite on hand, which I will likely devote to longwave with regeneration.

Looks like I'm going to have to find a longer backpack for my morning commute DXpedition gear...

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: sunset-skip new adds Thursday, Febr. 10, 2011 in Akron

robert ross
 

On 10/02/2011 7:47 PM, Tim wrote:
 

About a half-hour of listening snared 2 new URL loggings on my
Sony SRF-T615 (totally stock):

570 CKGL/Kitchener, Ontario @ 6:45pm EST with "5-70 News". First time ever heard with ANY radio!

880 KLRG/Sheridan, Arkansas (Little Rock)@ 7:01pm w/CNN network news, and local spot advertising "buy an hour on KLRG and reach 6 states with 50,000 watts". That buy better be in the daytime, as they go to 230w at night. LOL. Again, new...never heard ever on any radio.

I don't do too much AM DXing...but 99% of it is on my T-615 or SRF-59. Love both radios.

Due to the strange sunspot cycle #24...the AM continues to be a good one for DXers.

73's,

Tim, KD8GZ
near Akron, Ohio



Tim....You did better than me tonight!!! I got absolutely NOTHING NEW @ Sunset!!!! I heard some decent RELOGS...but I got shut out on the New Ones!!!

Glad to see you are enjoying the SONY T-615........Stick with it...and you're gonna hear a lot of Cool Stuff!! It will grow on you!!

Keep having Fun with ULR!!!!

73....ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


Re: A Cold but Productive DX Commute - 3 New Beacons

Gary DeBock
 

Hi Peter,

The Ultralight General Awards Program information is contained in a
file under Section 2 (General Information) of the Ultralightdx File
Section, linked at
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/AHxUTdVkNIjF_FdlNlFdmCPrZn4_GGYi6P4jl0T3FeXwa1xU10BSFYwx1lspEg0aeQHaGoQSHQMyNNwp3QWlw4sQLLlc0Go/2%20General%20Information/Ultralight%20General%20Awards%20Program%20January%2015%2C%202010.pdf
.

These rules are for the MW-DXing Awards Program, but Rob Ross and I
have already decided to offer the same award categories for the new
Ultralight Longwave DXing Awards Program, soon to be announced. Please
feel free to participate in either program!

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, UA)

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@gmail.com>
To: ultralightdx <ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 11:28 am
Subject: Re: [ultralightdx] A Cold but Productive DX Commute - 3 New Beacons

 
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:21, <D1028Gary@aol.com> wrote:

For those interested in either LWBC or NDB-DXing (or both), Rob
Ross
and I have already agreed to offer Ultralight Longwave-DXing
awards as
soion as possible, which will be in exactly the same categories as
the
MW-DXing awards (states, provinces, countries, hundreds of stations
heard, etc.). I think that Kevin and I both know how meaningful a
100
NDB Heard Award would be! Rob and I are discussing the final
artwork
for the Longwave-DXing Award Certificates, which will be offered to
Ultralight DXers anywhere in the world. Get your loggings ready!
Where are the award rules listed? I admit, one of the things that
attracted me to this hobby was the awards, so I've seen the page ...
but where? :-)

Peter
N5UWY
DXCC Mixed/Phone/15 m
WAS RTTY/Phone
WAC Phone
:-)

--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


sunset-skip new adds Thursday, Febr. 10, 2011 in Akron

Tim Davisson
 

About a half-hour of listening snared 2 new URL loggings on my
Sony SRF-T615 (totally stock):

570 CKGL/Kitchener, Ontario @ 6:45pm EST with "5-70 News". First time ever heard with ANY radio!

880 KLRG/Sheridan, Arkansas (Little Rock)@ 7:01pm w/CNN network news, and local spot advertising "buy an hour on KLRG and reach 6 states with 50,000 watts". That buy better be in the daytime, as they go to 230w at night. LOL. Again, new...never heard ever on any radio.

I don't do too much AM DXing...but 99% of it is on my T-615 or SRF-59. Love both radios.

Due to the strange sunspot cycle #24...the AM continues to be a good one for DXers.

73's,

Tim, KD8GZ
near Akron, Ohio


Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way

Pollock,Raphael E <rpollock@...>
 

Hi Kevin!

 

I will await the results of your 18” MW only with interest and bated breath. I am not sure how the Stormwise antenna is made, but I’ll bet dimes-to-doughnuts that they don’t use 660/44 Litz. Incidentially, do you have a good source for the 660/44 Litz? I bought mine from Dave Schmarder last year when he was selling off his last bits and pieces of crystal radio supplies…

 

Raph

 

From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:55 PM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way

 

 

I've only been using the dual-coil version of the 18" 800 mu stick for LW, which really works well, and really haven't evaluated MW. However, a quick test of my dual-coil ferrite shows similar results compared to Farmerik: the MW coil is about comparable to a Terk loop :-(

I have it wound with 175/46 Litz and tuned with a >500 Q variable capacitor, so that likely isn't the problem. The MW coil is towards one end, which probably doesn't help matters (the LW coil takes up over half of the length of the ferrite). The LW coil's presence will also drag tuning sharpness down somewhat - I've seen that happen on box loops. The MW coil does tune fairly sharply, although not as sharply as Raph describes for his.

When the 24" ferrite arrives, I plan on converting the 18" ferrite to MW only, placing the coil in the middle of the ferrite, and I now have some 660/44 Litz, so perhaps then we'll see how it works.

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@..., "Pollock,Raphael E" wrote:
>
> Dear Farmerik: I am very disappointed at this result, as I am certain you are as well. The Stormwise source ferrite rods antennas that I have wound used 125 mu rather than 800 mu ferrite, although that should not explain the modest performance you are experiencing. There are other possible confounding factors.My primary pick up coils are made of 660/46 Litz wire. I do not know what type of wire is used in the Stormwise AM ferrite. Finally, my coils are placed in the center of the rod and are tight wound; I am not certain what is the coil situation in the Stormwise AM ferrite. More knowledgeable people like Kevin, Steve, or Gary might have better explanations.
>
> I can tell you that in direct comparison tests versus my SAT, my CCRane twin coil, and my homebrew 3' x 3' air core box loop both my 19" 125 mu and 27" 125 mu knock the socks off the other antennas. The tuning is extremely sharp; without the verniers they would be darn near impossible to peak. Using my Sony 2010 with the RF gain set at mid point (slider switch on the side) and tuning to stations that at noon here in Houston will light up 1 of 10 LEDS, the SAT, when peaked, will typically light up 3 of 10 LEDS, the twin coil antenna comes in at 6-7 of 10, and either of my ferrites will light up 9-10 of the 10 LEDs when peaked. This extra gain has made a difference in reception of daytime long distance MW stations so it is not simply amplifying the noise floor of the receiver, as it were.
>
> I wonder if the 800 pfd variable capacitor is the problem? Perhaps a 365 pfd variable capacitor, which is more what is typically used to cover the MW band (although I am no expert!), would give you sharper peaking when you tune the MW band?
>
> Raph
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ultralightdx@... [ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of farmerik [farmerik@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:54 PM
> To: ultralightdx@...
> Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way
>
>
>
> As far as the AM ferrite antenna I bought from Stormwise, it is not a big improvement on AM over a SAT or TERK aircores or Gary's 8 inch ferrite for the PL-360. It does not tune sharply either, so there is no need to use a cap with a vernier. Even the two section cap of nearly 800 pF is less touchy than resonating the TERK or SAT.
> I hope you guys who wind your own coils on the Stormwise ferrite can get better results. It is easier to pack than a large air core though for mountain top picnics. It is pretty rugged too, inside the PVC pipe with the caps on both ends glued on. - FARMERIK
>
> --- In ultralightdx@..., "dhsatyadhana" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Raph:
> >
> > The 800 mu permeability is still fine for resonating on MW, as far as I can tell. I have been comparing the 800 mu stick to my Q Stick, and the signal gain is substantially leap better on the Monster. The guy at Stormwise mentioned that to get max Q for the upper part of the band, the windings should be spaced out along the ferrite as much as possible: I will likely convert the "little" 18-inch ferrite to MW-only, in which case I can do just that. Both of our MW coils are close-spaced, which minimizes the amount of Litz wire one needs, but apparently Q suffers. So, you might want to try spacing out the coils on yours, using a longer length of Litz?
> >
> > I am thinking that if I were to take it on a trip and try to carry it onto a plane, I would bring a copy of the construction article to show them what it is. I would have it in a mailing tube, and I would go to the post office at the airport and mail it back to myself rather than have them confiscate it. If I were to check it in a bag, I might use a stand-alone shipping tube of some sort, perhaps one made for a fishing rod, again with a copy of the construction article in there should they decide to check it out. Using a hard-sided suitcase, with the antenna put in diagonally, might also work.
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > --- In ultralightdx@..., "Pollock,Raphael E" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin!
> > >
> > > Glad to see you becoming even more addicted to monster ferrites as well! I am wondering how well the 800 mu ferrites will work on MW as compared to the 125 mu--I don't know enough radio electronics to answer my own question. I also wonder about transporting the completed ferrite rod antennas. There is too much effort to make one of these things only to have it confiscated by Homeland Security at the airport, thinking that it might be a pipe bomb or some damn thing. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to take a chance of ferrite breakage by putting it in checked luggage...
> > >
> > > Your thoughts, my friend?
> > >
> > > Raph
> > >
> > > From: ultralightdx@... [mailto:ultralightdx@...] On Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:39 PM
> > > To: ultralightdx@...
> > > Subject: [ultralightdx] An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all:
> > >
> > > I just got off the phone with Stormwise, intending to order another 18" "Monster" ferrite, since I have a few other ideas about what to do with them. As it turns out, they are available in 2" increments, so I special-ordered a 24" inch model of the 800u permeability type (Model VFR24J). I think they're all made to order, so it's just a matter of him telling the fabricator how long to make it.
> > >
> > > He wasn't exactly sure of the price, likely $10 or so more than the 18" (which runs $33.75), but he'll let me know as soon as he gets a firm price on it. So, in about a week I should have an even larger Monster ferrite on hand, which I will likely devote to longwave with regeneration.
> > >
> > > Looks like I'm going to have to find a longer backpack for my morning commute DXpedition gear...
> > >
> > > Kevin S
> > > Bainbridge Island, WA
> > >
> >
>


Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way

Kevin Schanilec
 

I've only been using the dual-coil version of the 18" 800 mu stick for LW, which really works well, and really haven't evaluated MW. However, a quick test of my dual-coil ferrite shows similar results compared to Farmerik: the MW coil is about comparable to a Terk loop :-(

I have it wound with 175/46 Litz and tuned with a >500 Q variable capacitor, so that likely isn't the problem. The MW coil is towards one end, which probably doesn't help matters (the LW coil takes up over half of the length of the ferrite). The LW coil's presence will also drag tuning sharpness down somewhat - I've seen that happen on box loops. The MW coil does tune fairly sharply, although not as sharply as Raph describes for his.

When the 24" ferrite arrives, I plan on converting the 18" ferrite to MW only, placing the coil in the middle of the ferrite, and I now have some 660/44 Litz, so perhaps then we'll see how it works.

Kevin

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com, "Pollock,Raphael E" <rpollock@...> wrote:

Dear Farmerik: I am very disappointed at this result, as I am certain you are as well. The Stormwise source ferrite rods antennas that I have wound used 125 mu rather than 800 mu ferrite, although that should not explain the modest performance you are experiencing. There are other possible confounding factors.My primary pick up coils are made of 660/46 Litz wire. I do not know what type of wire is used in the Stormwise AM ferrite. Finally, my coils are placed in the center of the rod and are tight wound; I am not certain what is the coil situation in the Stormwise AM ferrite. More knowledgeable people like Kevin, Steve, or Gary might have better explanations.

I can tell you that in direct comparison tests versus my SAT, my CCRane twin coil, and my homebrew 3' x 3' air core box loop both my 19" 125 mu and 27" 125 mu knock the socks off the other antennas. The tuning is extremely sharp; without the verniers they would be darn near impossible to peak. Using my Sony 2010 with the RF gain set at mid point (slider switch on the side) and tuning to stations that at noon here in Houston will light up 1 of 10 LEDS, the SAT, when peaked, will typically light up 3 of 10 LEDS, the twin coil antenna comes in at 6-7 of 10, and either of my ferrites will light up 9-10 of the 10 LEDs when peaked. This extra gain has made a difference in reception of daytime long distance MW stations so it is not simply amplifying the noise floor of the receiver, as it were.

I wonder if the 800 pfd variable capacitor is the problem? Perhaps a 365 pfd variable capacitor, which is more what is typically used to cover the MW band (although I am no expert!), would give you sharper peaking when you tune the MW band?

Raph



________________________________
From: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com [ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of farmerik [farmerik@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:54 PM
To: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ultralightdx] Re: An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way



As far as the AM ferrite antenna I bought from Stormwise, it is not a big improvement on AM over a SAT or TERK aircores or Gary's 8 inch ferrite for the PL-360. It does not tune sharply either, so there is no need to use a cap with a vernier. Even the two section cap of nearly 800 pF is less touchy than resonating the TERK or SAT.
I hope you guys who wind your own coils on the Stormwise ferrite can get better results. It is easier to pack than a large air core though for mountain top picnics. It is pretty rugged too, inside the PVC pipe with the caps on both ends glued on. - FARMERIK

--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>, "dhsatyadhana" <dhsatyadhana@> wrote:

Hi Raph:

The 800 mu permeability is still fine for resonating on MW, as far as I can tell. I have been comparing the 800 mu stick to my Q Stick, and the signal gain is substantially leap better on the Monster. The guy at Stormwise mentioned that to get max Q for the upper part of the band, the windings should be spaced out along the ferrite as much as possible: I will likely convert the "little" 18-inch ferrite to MW-only, in which case I can do just that. Both of our MW coils are close-spaced, which minimizes the amount of Litz wire one needs, but apparently Q suffers. So, you might want to try spacing out the coils on yours, using a longer length of Litz?

I am thinking that if I were to take it on a trip and try to carry it onto a plane, I would bring a copy of the construction article to show them what it is. I would have it in a mailing tube, and I would go to the post office at the airport and mail it back to myself rather than have them confiscate it. If I were to check it in a bag, I might use a stand-alone shipping tube of some sort, perhaps one made for a fishing rod, again with a copy of the construction article in there should they decide to check it out. Using a hard-sided suitcase, with the antenna put in diagonally, might also work.


Kevin


--- In ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>, "Pollock,Raphael E" <rpollock@> wrote:

Hi Kevin!

Glad to see you becoming even more addicted to monster ferrites as well! I am wondering how well the 800 mu ferrites will work on MW as compared to the 125 mu--I don't know enough radio electronics to answer my own question. I also wonder about transporting the completed ferrite rod antennas. There is too much effort to make one of these things only to have it confiscated by Homeland Security at the airport, thinking that it might be a pipe bomb or some damn thing. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to take a chance of ferrite breakage by putting it in checked luggage...

Your thoughts, my friend?

Raph

From: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of dhsatyadhana
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:39 PM
To: ultralightdx@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ultralightdx%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ultralightdx] An even More Monstrous ferrite on the way



Hi all:

I just got off the phone with Stormwise, intending to order another 18" "Monster" ferrite, since I have a few other ideas about what to do with them. As it turns out, they are available in 2" increments, so I special-ordered a 24" inch model of the 800u permeability type (Model VFR24J). I think they're all made to order, so it's just a matter of him telling the fabricator how long to make it.

He wasn't exactly sure of the price, likely $10 or so more than the 18" (which runs $33.75), but he'll let me know as soon as he gets a firm price on it. So, in about a week I should have an even larger Monster ferrite on hand, which I will likely devote to longwave with regeneration.

Looks like I'm going to have to find a longer backpack for my morning commute DXpedition gear...

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


Re: A Cold but Productive DX Commute - 3 New Beacons

Peter Laws
 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:21, <D1028Gary@aol.com> wrote:

For those interested in either LWBC or NDB-DXing (or both), Rob Ross
and I have already agreed to offer Ultralight Longwave-DXing awards as
soion as possible, which will be in exactly the same categories as the
MW-DXing awards (states, provinces, countries, hundreds of stations
heard, etc.). I think that Kevin and I both know how meaningful a 100
NDB Heard Award would be! Rob and I are discussing the final artwork
for the Longwave-DXing Award Certificates, which will be offered to
Ultralight DXers anywhere in the world. Get your loggings ready!

Where are the award rules listed? I admit, one of the things that
attracted me to this hobby was the awards, so I've seen the page ...
but where? :-)

Peter
N5UWY
DXCC Mixed/Phone/15 m
WAS RTTY/Phone
WAC Phone
:-)

--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!

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