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Re: 300 in 30 Day Challenge

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Congrats man! You fellows amaze me with this 30 day challenge!
Kirk Allen
JRC NRD-515, Eton E-100, SRF-59
Ponca City, Oklahoma
--- In ultralightdx@..., Allen Willie <vo1_001_swl@...>
wrote:

 
Totals for the challenge- 217 UL stations in 8 days.

So far, I've added 22 new stations to my UL log, 8 new stations to
my
overall log, 2 new countries to my UL log and 1 new country to my
overall log. It has been quite profitable so far!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE
 

 
 
Way to go John!
 
You're doing  very well at the 300/30 Challenge. Its nice to add
some new ones to the overall logs along the way too. I added quite a
few new ones to my overall log as well during my attempt at the 300.
Keep it going  John !.
 
 
Allen Willie
St. John's, Newfoundland 
 

 


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300 in 30 Day Challenge

Allen Willie
 

 
Totals for the challenge- 217 UL stations in 8 days.

So far, I've added 22 new stations to my UL log, 8 new stations to my
overall log, 2 new countries to my UL log and 1 new country to my
overall log. It has been quite profitable so far!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE
 

 
 
Way to go John!
 
You're doing  very well at the 300/30 Challenge. Its nice to add some new ones to the overall logs along the way too. I added quite a few new ones to my overall log as well during my attempt at the 300. Keep it going  John !.
 
 
Allen Willie
St. John's, Newfoundland 
 

 

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Finally Logged Station #200

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

After not really getting very serious about Ultralight listening until
August, I did finally manage to scrounge up station #200 this morning.
It was KWAM, Memphis, TN on 990 khz. ID at 1059 UTC. As a bonus, at
1206 UTC this morning, managed to ID (it was easy...BIG signal here)
XEMR, Monterrey on 1140 for station #201. Okay, it's on to 300 now. OH,
yes Guy, you're right. It was John's handiwork that came up with the
spectrum logs. I'd not thought of them in a very long time. Sometimes I
really miss the Fine Tuning days when I had the opportunity of co-
editing with Dave Valko, Mitch Sams, and Larry Yamron. Man, that was
was back in the hay days of SW DX'ing! We all had an awful lot of fun
back then, no doubt about it. Just the other day I ran across a group
picture of all of us crazy DX'ers from the NU/FT vention in
Reynoldsburgh, OH in the summer of 1987. John, I'm going to scan this
photo and send it up your way. You may not have seen that one in quite
a while. Gee, we were just a little younger back then, hi hi. Take care
guys and best of 73's at ya.
Kirk Allen
JRC NRD-515, Eton E-100, Sony SRF-59
Ponca City, OK


Re: ULTRALIGHT SUNRISE DX...3 NEW ONES...ALL GRAVEYARDERS!!!!

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Wow, way to go dude!! 500+ stations I cannot even imagine!
Kirk Allen
JRC NRD-515, Eton E-100, Sony SRF-59
Ponca City, OK
--- In ultralightdx@..., Robert Ross <va3sw@...> wrote:

Hi Guys:

Well...after some Slim Pickens the past few days...I decided to
Camp Out
on the Graveyard Frequencies this morning at Sunrise. Turns out to
be quite
profitable as I logged 3 NEW STATIONS for the ULR Log, 2 of which
are NEW
to the OVERALL Log as well!! Conditions have generally been good
both at
Sunrise and Sunset......but mostly just Relogs of Good
Stuff....with New
ULR Loggings getting real hard to find lately.

Radio Used for this mornings outing was..............SONY SRF-T615
ULTRALIGHT BAREFOOT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ULTRALIGHT LOG TOTALS are now...................508 Stations Heard.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

73.................ROB.


**********************************************************************
******************************
1340 WSTV Steubenville, OHIO OCT/17/08 0700 EDT EE GOOD
ID given by Male DJ @ 0700 EDT as "ESPN RADIO 1290 WOMP Bellaire
and 1340 WSTV Steubenville". Into Sports talk @ 0700.

NEW STATION NEW ULR # 506 1 KW
ROSS, ONT.
**********************************************************************
*******************************
1240 WJIM Lansing, MICH. OCT/17/08 0717 EDT EE
GOOD
Male DJ with Local Weather Report for Central Lower Michigan.
Mentioned Lansing
and Kalamazoo among others. Highs in the 50's. Time Check as 17
Minutes after
the hour.

RELOG...But NEW to ULR LOG NEW ULR # 507 890 Watts
ROSS, ONT.
**********************************************************************
**********************************
1340 WLEW Bad Axe, MICH. OCT/17/08 0726 EDT EE FAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 0726 as "AM 1340 WLEW". Short Weather Report by
Male DJ.
Into the Jumble.

NEW STATION NEW ULR # 508 1 KW
ROSS, ONT.
**********************************************************************
***********************************

73........ROB.

Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
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report

marshall <marshallve3txt@...>
 

HI guys
my latest count is 71 stations so it is looking like
100 will come by the end of October then a couple days to type it up
then postthe logg as a file. If this ULR thing had been going a few
years ago100 would have come even faster if we still ghad all the
small town Canadian stations that want to fm .
but there is still 15-20 fairluy easy ones I dont beleive that I
haven't logged WHAS in Louisville yet.
73 Marshall


Re: 300-in-30 Day Challenge, Day 8

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

You are doing GREAT, John.... keep up the good work!

John B.



At 11:45 AM 10/17/2008 +0000, you wrote:

A very good day yesterday (Thursday) with several new logs on the
DT-200VX barefoot. Three brand new stations logged:

860 WOAY Oak Hill WV

910 WEPG S. Pittsburg TN- a surprise, with a "Swap-and-Shop" call in
program, followed by a long string of local ads

940 WCPC, Houston MS, "Radio that changes the way you live, AM 940,
WCPC, Houston MS", into Christian programming. A treat! This is only
my 2nd Mississippi station.

Totals for the challenge- 217 UL stations in 8 days.

So far, I've added 22 new stations to my UL log, 8 new stations to my
overall log, 2 new countries to my UL log and 1 new country to my
overall log. It has been quite profitable so far!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE


Re: 300-in-30 Day Challenge, Day 8

robert ross
 

At 07:45 AM 10/17/2008, JOHN CEREGHIN wrote:

Totals for the challenge- 217 UL stations in 8 days.

So far, I've added 22 new stations to my UL log, 8 new stations to my
overall log, 2 new countries to my UL log and 1 new country to my
overall log. It has been quite profitable so far!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE

John...Good work on all the new stations you're picking off while taking
part in the 300 Station Challenge. I found the same thing....I managed to
log a pile of New Ones while looking for 300 to fill the ULR Log. Since I
started ULR DXing last January....I have logged Over 150 NEW Ones for the
OVERALL LOG!!! It has been Years since I logged 150 New Stations to the
Overall Log in the same year!! So....aside from all the FUN we are having
with the ULR's....we are bagging a lot of NEW Stations for the Overall Logs
as well.......How on earth can a person have this much Fun with 2 Penlight
Batteries!! HAAHHAHHA.....

So you're at 217 Now.....after only 8 Days. You still have lots of time
left......even though things start getting a little harder after you get
the first 200. I'm sure you've noticed the difference between having 100 in
the log..and having 200 in the log???

I'm sure you will find the remaining 83 stations before the 30 days
expires......and I look forward to checking your logs for approval for the
30 Day Challenge Award!! Good Luck John......

73....ROB.


Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
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ULTRALIGHT SUNRISE DX...3 NEW ONES...ALL GRAVEYARDERS!!!!

robert ross
 

Hi Guys:

Well...after some Slim Pickens the past few days...I decided to Camp Out
on the Graveyard Frequencies this morning at Sunrise. Turns out to be quite
profitable as I logged 3 NEW STATIONS for the ULR Log, 2 of which are NEW
to the OVERALL Log as well!! Conditions have generally been good both at
Sunrise and Sunset......but mostly just Relogs of Good Stuff....with New
ULR Loggings getting real hard to find lately.

Radio Used for this mornings outing was..............SONY SRF-T615
ULTRALIGHT BAREFOOT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ULTRALIGHT LOG TOTALS are now...................508 Stations Heard.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

73.................ROB.


****************************************************************************************************
1340 WSTV Steubenville, OHIO OCT/17/08 0700 EDT EE GOOD
ID given by Male DJ @ 0700 EDT as "ESPN RADIO 1290 WOMP Bellaire
and 1340 WSTV Steubenville". Into Sports talk @ 0700.

NEW STATION NEW ULR # 506 1 KW
ROSS, ONT.
*****************************************************************************************************
1240 WJIM Lansing, MICH. OCT/17/08 0717 EDT EE GOOD
Male DJ with Local Weather Report for Central Lower Michigan. Mentioned Lansing
and Kalamazoo among others. Highs in the 50's. Time Check as 17 Minutes after
the hour.

RELOG...But NEW to ULR LOG NEW ULR # 507 890 Watts
ROSS, ONT.
********************************************************************************************************
1340 WLEW Bad Axe, MICH. OCT/17/08 0726 EDT EE FAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 0726 as "AM 1340 WLEW". Short Weather Report by Male DJ.
Into the Jumble.

NEW STATION NEW ULR # 508 1 KW
ROSS, ONT.
*********************************************************************************************************

73........ROB.

Robert S. Ross VA3SW
Box 1003, Stn. B.
London, Ontario
CANADA N6A5K1

Antique/Vintage Radio Enthusiast
Amateur Radio Stations VA3SW/VE3JFC
Enjoy Ultralight Radio DXing......It's like being a KID again!!

Defy Physics.....Play Table Tennis!! (Ping Pong with an Attitude)
«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«


300-in-30 Day Challenge, Day 8

John Cereghin <pastor@...>
 

A very good day yesterday (Thursday) with several new logs on the
DT-200VX barefoot. Three brand new stations logged:

860 WOAY Oak Hill WV

910 WEPG S. Pittsburg TN- a surprise, with a "Swap-and-Shop" call in
program, followed by a long string of local ads

940 WCPC, Houston MS, "Radio that changes the way you live, AM 940,
WCPC, Houston MS", into Christian programming. A treat! This is only
my 2nd Mississippi station.

Totals for the challenge- 217 UL stations in 8 days.

So far, I've added 22 new stations to my UL log, 8 new stations to my
overall log, 2 new countries to my UL log and 1 new country to my
overall log. It has been quite profitable so far!

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE


Re: Spectrum Logs Uploaded to dxer.ca

Guy Atkins
 

John, you're waay too modest. It wasn't "several of us", but YOU who developed that nifty Tropical Band Spectrum Log from scratch. It was a big hit in the (now sadly defunct) Fine Tuning group, which was also the publisher of the excellent "Fine Tuning's Proceedings" books that you masterminded, edited, and helped write. Not only that, you also designed and circulated the HF "Sweet Spot" charts, based on a useful propagation phenomena of "9pm-at-the-transmitter" signal enhancement.
 
I still have my original master printouts of the Tropical Band Spectrum Log you sent me; I think it dates from around 1992 or so.
 
So, let's give credit where credit is due... John Bryant is the author/designer of the Spectrum Logs!
 
Guy Atkins
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: [ultralightdx] Spectrum Logs Uploaded to dxer.ca

Twenty years ago, several of us doing Tropical Band work developed a Spectrum Log format that we found enormously useful. 

.


Spectrum Logs Uploaded to dxer.ca

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Twenty years ago, several of us doing Tropical Band work developed a Spectrum Log format that we found enormously useful.  Rather than, or along with keeping traditional chronological log books, we had forms that gave us several bland lines for each 5 kHz. channel within the bands. We'd make short notations at to the stations we heard on that channel... or even notations of stations to watch for and we'd split the notes into morning and evening notes... since the part of the world available at each prime time varied so much.  The Spectrum Log was so useful that I completely abandoned the chronological log book in my hobby work. 

On DXpeditions and for reception reports, I still take detailed chronological notes, and of course, in Ultralighting I keep a database (I use Access) of all stations heard, with details.

However, the "brains" of my MW efforts are two Spectrum Log forms that I keep in front of me all of the time.  The first form (titled "UL Spectrum Log" in the Ultralight Files area of dxer.ca) is a 25 page Spectrum Log Book that allocates about 5 or 6 blank lines to each 10 kHz. channel of domestic MW. There are 5 channels per page....... say from 800 kHz through 840 kHz on one page.... and there are AM and PM marks at the top and bottom of the page.  I fill this form out with notes IN PENCIL as I DX and one form usually lasts three or four years before it becomes so ratty that I start over.... The AM and PM marks (actually only the PM marks) are to use as guides to draw a vertical line down the sheet to create AM and PM portions of each channel area... if you so wish.

The second form (titled "Abbreviated....."  in the UL files area may be even more useful.  It allocates only one line to each 10 kHz. channel and is only 2-plus pages long.  I use this form for frequency-order Hit Lists and... in contests and on DXpeditions... to record the stations heard in frequency order, just by name or call.... this latter use is partly to generate a running Stations Heard List, but it serves VERY WELL as a list to prevent me spending valuable time doing a redundant logging.... something that I've done far too often when deprived of sleep or when really in a hurry. 

Virtually everyone has their own favorite system of recording information.... and these days, it is most often computer-based. However, with many Ultralight situations forcing us to turn the computers off, this old fashioned PENCIL-based system might just prove useful to some of you.  I hope!

http://www.dxer.ca/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,87/Itemid,77/  

John B.
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, Ultralights
Antennas: Wellbrook Phased Array SE/NW
Two 70' x 100' Conti Super Loops, West and Northwest


Re: Possible NW Ultralight Joint DXpedition and/or Ultralight Get Together???

Kirk Allen <kirk74601@...>
 

Gentlemen,
I would so much enjoy a get together with you all. After all, we've
been aquainted for so long. I'd love to meet Guy for the first time and
finally put a face to the name! Darn, I'll be wishing I was there, and
I wish for the best conditions for everyone during the competition. I'm
sure I won't be that much true 'competition'but will give it a go
anyway. It's been a LONG time since I did any contest type
listening/logging. Honestly the last time I entered a contest RT the
radio hobby was in the early 1980's when I won second place in an HCJB
frequency competition they had...I'll not go into the details now. Best
of 73 and great DX!!
Kirk Allen
JRC NRD-515, Eton E-100, Sony SRF-59
Ponca City, Oklahoma

Guy and I would really enjoy a get together Saturday afternoon, if
anyone is in the area and also would love to coordinate DXing if
others join us Friday or Saturday night.... We've even got some
walkie-talkies for coordinating efforts, if anyone can make it out
there

Whether you can make it out or not, don't forget about the Fall
Follies!!!


Possible NW Ultralight Joint DXpedition and/or Ultralight Get Together???

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

As you know the 2008 Fall Follies DX Contest is rapidly approaching and Guy and I intend to help hold up the NW's reputation for looooong distance reception. We have reserved Yurt #114 at Grayland Beach State Park for Friday and Saturday nights, Oct 31 & Nov. 1. That is the last weekend of the Fall Follies.  There are several other yurts available for rent ($45 per night) and they are absolutely perfect for handheld Ultralighting, with wooden lattice and insulated vinyl walls and roof.. an on the front line near the beach.

The yurts sleep three very nicely and are heated and have 50 amp service.  The potties and showers are a short walk away and you have to bring your own ice chest and camp stove, if you want to eat and a sleeping bag or bedding to go atop their vinyl-covered matresses.  These are the yurts that Guy favors over the Grayland Motel.... much lower rates and he finds them considerably quieter, especially out of season.

Here is a URL for the yurts (roll down about halfway to Grayland Beach State Park....
http://www.parks.wa.gov/yurtsandcabins/yurtcabin.asp

It is about half a mile between the motel and the park, for those who may like to stay there...

Guy and I would really enjoy a get together Saturday afternoon, if anyone is in the area and also would love to coordinate DXing if others join us Friday or Saturday night.... We've even got some walkie-talkies for coordinating efforts, if anyone can make it out there

Whether you can make it out or not,  don't forget about the Fall Follies!!!

John B.
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, Ultralights
Antennas: Wellbrook Phased Array SE/NW
Two 70' x 100' Conti Super Loops, West and Northwest


Updated Current Records

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 

Friends,

With Paul Logan checking in (two new distance records) I think that we are up to date with all of the Ultralight World Distance Records.... However, I'm convinced that most of the Western Hemisphere records have been superceded in several log books, especially those for the Unlimited Class..  Give me some more record keeping to do, PLEASE :>)



Ultralight MW Radio DXing
CURRENT RECORDS
October 15, 2008
Recent Additions
 
World Records
Longest Distance Reception -Worldwide Reception
   11758km/7306 miles Dennis Vroom, Grayland, WA VOA-1575 Ayutthaya,Thailand 4/18/2008 (E100)
   12372 km/7684 miles Kevin Schanilec, Kenai Pen., AK 3LO-774, Melbourne, Australia
                                                                                                                                             9/17//2008 (E100)  
  **13255 km/8230 miles John Bryant, Grayland, WA 5AN-891 Adelaide, SA 5/29/2008 (**E100)   
Longest Distance Reception @ 50 kW. -Worldwide Reception
      12372 km/7684 miles Kevin Schanilec, Kenai Pen., AK 3LO-774, Melbourne, Australia
                                                                                                                                             9/17//2008 (E100)  
   **13255 km/8230 miles John Bryant, Grayland, WA 5AN-891 Adelaide, SA 5/29/2008 (**E100)
Longest Distance Reception @ 10 kW. -Worldwide Reception
       6628 km/4119 miles Paul Logan, Lisnaskea, N. Ireland,  WQBA, Miami, FL, 9/16/2008    (Sony SRF-59)           
   **11777 km/7318 miles John Bryant, Grayland, WA Nat.R.-675, Christchurch, NZ 5/30/2008 (**E100)
Longest Distance Reception @ 5 kW. -Worldwide Reception
      9035 km/ 5614 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF  R B. Nuevas-1610, Argentina 2/2/2008 (SRF-37V)
   **11483 km/7135 miles John Bryant, Grayland, WA 4TAB-891 Townsville, QLD 5/29/2008 (**E100)
Longest Distance Reception @ 1 kW. -Worldwide Reception
     7706 km/ 4789 miles Paul Logan, Lisnaskea, N. Ireland, KVNS-1700 Bville, TX 10/10/2008(SRF-59)
    **6802 km/4227 miles John Bryant, Grayland, WA, JOTS-1368  Wakkanai, Japan 10/8/2008 (**E100)
Longest Distance Reception @ 500 W. -Worldwide Reception
      1437 km/893 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bainbridge Is. WA, KLSQ, Whitney, NV 1/23/2008 (SRF-39FP)
   **1099km/683 miles John Bryant, Stillwater, OK, XEMF-780, Monclova, CO, MX 2/8/2008 (SRF-T516**)
Longest Distance Reception @ 250 W. -Worldwide Reception
   1540 km/957 miles John Callarman, Krum, TX, XEUACH-1610 Chapingo,TE, MX 1/6/2008 (SRF-37V) 
   **1609 km/1000 miles John Bryant, Stillwater, OK, XETI-750, Tempoal VC, MX 2/9/2008 (SRF-T615**)     
 
           
Western Hemisphere Records (from North America)
Longest Distance Reception-Western Hemisphere
      9035 km/ 5614 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF  R B. Nuevas-1610, Argentina 2/2/2008 (SRF-37V)
   **5364 km/3333 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bainbridge Is. WA,  RVC-530, 12/10/2007 (SRF-59**)
Longest Distance Domestic Reception within Canada and the USA1
      5556 km/3450 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF, KNX-1070 Los Angeles, CA  10/05/08 (SRF-M37V)
  **3244 km/2016 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bbridge Is. WA, KVNS-1700 Bville TX, 1/1/2008 (SRF-59**)
Longest Distance Reception @ 50 kW.  -Western Hemisphere
     5556 km/3450 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF, KNX-1070 Los Angeles, CA  10/05/08 (SRF-M37V)
   **5364 km/3333 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bainbridge Is. WA,  RVC-530, 12/10/2007 (SRF-59)
Longest Distance Reception @ 10 kW. -Western Hemisphere
      3669 km/2280 miles Rob Ross, London, ON, YVMN-780 Coro, Venezuela 1/28/2008 (SRF-T615)
   **2253 km/1400 miles Gil Stacy, Savannah, GA, ZBVI-780, Roadtown, Tortola 1/8/2008(SRF-59 **)
Longest Distance Reception @ 5 kW. -Western Hemisphere
      9035 km/ 5614 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF  R B. Nuevas-1610, Argentina 2/2/2008 (SRF-37V)
   **739km/459 miles John Bryant, Stillwater, OK, KTSA-550 San Antonio, TX 2/8/2008 (SRF-T615**)
Longest Distance Reception @ 1 kW. -Western Hemisphere
      3433 km/2133 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bainbridge Is. WA, WTNI-1640, Biloxi, MS  2/1/2008 (Eton e100)
   **3244 km/2016 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bbridge Is. WA, KVNS-1700 Bnsville TX, 1/1/2008  (SRF-59**)
Longest Distance Reception @ 500 W. -Western Hemisphere
      1437 km/893 miles Kevin Schanilec, Bainbridge Is. WA, KLSQ, Whitney, NV 1/23/2008 (SRF-39FP)
   **1099km/683 miles John Bryant, Stillwater, OK, XEMF-780, Monclova, CO, MX 2/8/2008 (SRF-T615**)
Longest Distance Reception @ 250 W. -Western Hemisphere
      1540 km/957 miles John Callarman, Krum, TX, XEUACH-1610 Chapingo,TE, MX 1/6/2008 (SRF-37V) 
   **1609 km/1000 miles John Bryant, Stillwater, OK, XETI-750, Tempoal VC, MX 2/9/2008 (SRF-T516**)     
Longest Distance Domestic Reception of a Graveyard Station -Western Hemisphere
     1965 km/1220 miles Allen Willie, St. Johns, NF, WENJ-1450  Atlantic City ,NJ 8/25/2008 (SRF-M37V)  
  *** No Unlimited Class Reception has ever been submitted for a record on a Graveyard Frequency
 


300-in-30 Days Challenge- Day 6

John Cereghin <pastor@...>
 

October 14 (Day 6) brought 7 new stations for the Challenge, plus 3
new ones for my overall UL log:

780 WCKB Dunn NC
780 WWOL Forest City NC
1570 WFLR Dundee NY

Both WCKB and WWOL currently put in good signals at sunset, before
Chicago takes over.

I now am up to 207 stations after 6 days. I need an average of 4 new
stations a day to reach 300 by November 9.

My overall UL station count now stands at 363 stations.

John Cereghin
Smyrna DE


Re: Toroid question

MarkWA1ION
 

From professional connections, I know that Siemens toroids are widely
available in Europe. There should be mixes comparable to the popular
Amidon / Fair-Rite / Ferroxcube types (43, 61, 77, and 75/J) used in
the USA and Canada.

Whether these are any cheaper, I don't know. Check Farnell and other
major European distributors or Siemens directly.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA, USA

<<
Hi John,

Some of the guys this side are using 77s for feedline chokes
(possibly because thats all they were able to get) - I'm not sure if
you can get an FT140 75 anymore - is j material the same as 75?.

I should become an Amidon distributor for Ireland / UK / Europe -
the prices over here are insane. I've just seen some FT 240 77's on a
German site for 30 Euro a pop! ( as opposed to $9 in the US)

Any suggestions of sources would be who will supply outside the US
and take paypal would be helpful.

Paul Logan,
Lisnaskea, N. Ireland

Listening Homepage: http://geocities.com/yogi540/
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/
Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540


Re: Update of World Distance Records 10 kw and 1 kw barefoot categories

MarkWA1ION
 

KVNS and WTNI are both right on the Gulf of Mexico, so very high
ground conductivity comes into play.

Also, because these stations are quite southerly (along with some of
the often-heard Florida stations), they are "sitting pretty" and "in
the clear" during auroral disruptions that knock out stations from
the northeastern states, the midwest, the prairies, and the Pacific
Northwest.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA

<<
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Paul Logan <paulloganradio@...>
wrote:

for some reason they come in well here - but so do WTNI on 1640 - I
cant
explain it - often I will hear KVNS mixing with several stations
but often
times it is dominating. Its not way above others here but does seem
to get
out very well, I wonder what their pattern is.
The KVNS pattern is supposed to be non-directional, but it pushes way
out to the east due to the Gulf of Mexico being so close to the
transmitter.

They don't dominate here every night, but fairly often they come in so
strong you can't hear much but a slight rumbling in the background
from the other stations.

-- Jay


Re: Update of World Distance Records 10 kw and 1 kw barefoot categories

Jay Heyl
 

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Paul Logan <paulloganradio@...> wrote:

for some reason they come in well here - but so do WTNI on 1640 - I cant
explain it - often I will hear KVNS mixing with several stations but often
times it is dominating. Its not way above others here but does seem to get
out very well, I wonder what their pattern is.
The KVNS pattern is supposed to be non-directional, but it pushes way
out to the east due to the Gulf of Mexico being so close to the
transmitter.

They don't dominate here every night, but fairly often they come in so
strong you can't hear much but a slight rumbling in the background
from the other stations.

-- Jay


Re: Update of World Distance Records 10 kw and 1 kw barefoot categories

Jay Heyl
 

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:20 PM, John H. Bryant
<bjohnorcas@...> wrote:

In my experience with Pacific and Far East stations, I'd guess that KVNS may
be cheating, or alternatively, the antenna may be very fortunately situated
(in a salt marsh, etc.) or there may be a semi-permanent bubble in the
ionosphere that is perfectly situated to act as an amplifier.
The KVNS situation became a subject of great contention in another
group I'm in. Several very experienced DXers suggested there might be
something odd going on and one fellow who knew someone at the station
swore up and down that his friend insisted everything was 100%
according to the book. The fact that his friend was in sales, not
engineering, and would be rather unlikely to admit to violations even
if he was aware of them didn't seem to make an impression on this
fellow. (I wasn't involved in that discussion. I just observed the
flames from a distance.)

I'm not a radio engineer and have no personal knowledge of what might
be going on at KVNS. I do know that if they are strictly following the
rules, they're getting exceptional value out of that 880W they're
pumping out at night.

I only brought the whole thing up because Paul commented on KVNS being
a regular visitor at such a great distance.

I've always assumed that the only choice is to either accept an imperfect
system or not have a records or award program at all.... Seriously, I'm not
If we're voting, I'll cast my vote against anything that purports to
be an official record book. There are quite a few reasons I don't
think it's a good idea, not the least of which is it can serve to
discourage those who aren't blessed with living in or near prime DXing
locations. It's a hobby, not a competition. Each person's performance
should be measured against their own past performance, not against
some near-impossible reception made by someone in a highly advantaged
location. It's one thing to report receptions and distances to the
list. It's something else to have them carved in stone on a monument.

I also think it's a bit dubious to claim "world records" that come
almost exclusively from a group comprised of only 97 members (as of
this writing). I don't mean that as a slam to the group, just that in
the overall population of people listening to pocket radios, 97 people
is a pretty tiny percentage to draw from for establishing world
records.

I'm told DXing is far more popular in Japan than it is in Europe or
the Americas. Yet, in all the groups in which I participate, I don't
recall seeing any postings from any permanent resident of Japan.
Certainly DXers in Japan must be hearing stations from similar
distances to those reported in this group, but it would seem their
receptions wouldn't be considered for records simply because they
don't speak English or belong to this group.

Awards programs are cool as long as there are awards to recognize
various levels of achievement and progression in the hobby. Something
that encourages participation, not something that's used to foster
competition other than with one's self. I like the awards certificates
made available through the NDB List for various levels of achievement.
They're structured so both beginners and very experienced DXers can
qualify. They're also suitable for framing. ;-)

-- Jay


Re: Update of World Distance Records 10 kw and 1 kw barefoot categories

John H. Bryant <bjohnorcas@...>
 






At 05:35 PM 10/14/2008 -0400, you wrote:

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Paul Logan <paulloganradio@... > wrote:

1 kw barefoot category:

1700    KVNS, Brownsville, TX    1    USA    06:12    10/10/2008    4789 miles    7706 km

KVNS surprisingly is the most regular and often loudest X band signal here it was just a matter of time before it made it through barefoot. Logged playing oldies after a yl with id.



Jay then noted:

I'm not accusing anyone of anything or trying to taint any records, but I don't think I'd be the first to suspect KVNS might, on rare occasion, "forget" to switch to night power. They often dominate here in Orlando despite being five times further away than WJCC and allegedly running 880W vs WJCC's 1000W.  Admittedly, about 900 of the 1000 miles between KVNS and my house are over water, but that's still quite a distance for them to so clearly pummel WJCC into the noise.

  -- Jay


You make a good point, Jay.... I think that a couple of the other records in the low power Western Hemisphere area are from stations that may be running more than their authorized power.... just a personal opinion, though (they are records with my own name attached.) 

In my experience with Pacific and Far East stations, I'd guess that KVNS may be cheating, or alternatively, the antenna may be very fortunately situated (in a salt marsh, etc.) or there may be a semi-permanent bubble in the ionosphere that is perfectly situated to act as an amplifier.

A couple of examples:  For several years, 4BC in Brisbane suddenly became the most prominent station on the DU band for those of us in the NW.... really odd, since their frequency was mid-band (1116) and they are a lower powered commercial station (as opposed to the Big Gun ABC government stations.)  We finally found out that they had remodelled and upgraded their antenna/ground system at just the time when they became so prominent. On the other hand, this past summer, two stations in Christchurch, NZ on the South Island were suddenly the most prominent Kiwis by far... very unusual for South Island stations to do that... they are so much farther away. What is more, their prominence was VERY pronounced and lasted all season. I was convinced that both had either boosted power or also redone their antenna and ground systems.  I've now heard from the technical staffs at both stations.... neither have made any changes in recent years. I don't really have an explanation for what we heard this summer.... except I keep thinking about the Giant Red Spot on Jupiter.... its a huge storm or wind system that has been stable for decades, if not centuries, even though it is part of a gaseous atmosphere.  Besides the waves (ripples) in the ionosphere that we know to exist, I wonder if there aren't other structures that could form week-long or even season-long ducts..... 

So, yeah, KVNS may be cheating, but they may not be.... Jay, what do you suggest as an alternative to just accepting their published power as far running an awards or distance record program????  Should we vote on whether we think a particular station is running their legal power or not? Or should we ask for volunteers to go to the stations that we suspect and ask to perform an inspection? Surely neither of those are workable ideas.

I've always assumed that the only choice is to either accept an imperfect system or not have a records or award program at all....  Seriously, I'm not very happy with the current situation... in fact, it is a sore point with me as is probably apparent.  If there is some way to determine actual transmitted power for our use, I'd sure like to hear about it.

Thanks for the comment, Jay.... I'll take my soapbox and steal away into the night!


John B.


John B.
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Rcvrs: WiNRADiO 313e, Eton e1, Ultralights
Antennas: Wellbrook Phased Array SE/NW
Two 70' x 100' Conti Super Loops, West and Northwest