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Re: Which Litz Wire (660 / 46 or 100/44) is BetterTo Order for 7,5 Fixed Loop?

Paul V Birke PEng <nonlinear@...>
 

thanks Gary

just changed my order with Ming from 330/46 to 660/46    100'

best and thanks again for this critical information

I am the fellow with the pictures of the yellow pails glued together with the 100 * 20 * 3 mm   u=400 former Soviet block bars on same = this is going to be built Polydoroff Style


best Paul
VE3PVB


From: "D1028Gary@..."
To: ultralightdx@...
Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 9:50:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ultralightdx] Which Litz Wire (660 / 46 or 100/44) is BetterTo Order for 7,5 Fixed Loop?

 

Hello Jerry and All,

Steve Ratzlaff discovered that 660/46 Litz wire was the best performer
for FSL's, and I agree with him completely. All of my FSL's have been
made with 660/46 Litz wire from the eBay seller "Mkmak222," and they
have all been hot performers. The reason why such large Litz wire isn't
used on the 7.5" LW loopsticks is because the 660/46 wire diameter is
too large to get enough turns on the ferrite bar for a coil inductance
of around 1700 uh. A 7.5" long ferrite bar is too short for winding
such a 1700 uh coil with 660/46 Litz wire, but an 18" Stormwise bar is
long enough. Even using the 100/44 Litz wire from "Mkmak222" on the
7.5" LW loopsticks practically uses up the entire length of the ferrite
bar with Litz wire, except for just enough space to attach rubber shock
mounts.

73, Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Pollock,Raphael E <rpollock@...>
To: 'ultralightdx@...' <ultralightdx@...>
Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 3:41 pm
Subject: RE: [ultralightdx] Which Litz Wire (660 / 46 or 100/44) is
BetterTo Order for 7,5 Fixed Loop?

 
Hi Jerry! I have used both 100/44 and 660/46 Litz wire to wrap a 38
turnprimary winding on a 19” 125 mu ferrite bar, terminating in a 365
pfdvariable capacitor for tuning the MW band. In this context the
difference in Sunits as measured on my Palstar R30a was typically 7 vs
S+30 for most stations.There were many stations barely audible with the
100/44 coil that could bereally well heard using the 660/46 wrap. I
don’t know if this wouldtranslate into comparable results with a FSL
antenna set up but it sure makes adifference with monster ferrite bar
antennas that only have one ferrite rod,albeit one that is 19” long x
1” wide… From:ultralightdx@...
[mailto:ultralightdx@...] On BehalfOf jerry_popiel
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:34 PM
To: ultralightdx@...
Subject: [ultralightdx] Which Litz Wire (660 / 46 or 100/44) is
BetterToOrder for 7,5 Fixed Loop?

  
I am about to order some Litz wire from theUSA. Re Steve's recent Litz
wire comments on his FSL Loop and Gary' use of iton his FSL Loops, does
the much more expensive 660 / 46 Litz wire provide muchbetter
sensitivity than the 100 /44 wire listed in Gary DeBock's June
11writeup for the 7.5 inch Fixed Ferrite Loop? And if the 660 /46 Litz
Wire isbetter would the 7.5 Inch Loopstick still be required to have
122 Turns &1700 uh Inductance as was for the 100 /44 wire, or does this
all change?

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Jerry
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